Mate, you're a rockstar. I was looking at the Kodak library of creative photography and those film photos made in the '70s looked a lot better than what I would capture and develop in Lightroom for example. Now I understand the errors of my way and how I can process photos into looking realistic and filmic. Thank you for the video! You just gained a subscriber :)
Thanks for the video. I'm wondering whether you had the highlight reconstruction module active or not, and if so, what preference you had set. I'm a bit confused as to why it's on by default in darktable and set to clip highlights, and if it's redundant to the reconstruction in Filmic.
Right, so I have the "Highlight Reconstruction" module disabled, as I use highlight reconstruction in the "filmic rgb" module, when necessary. That "Highlight Reconstruction" module is meant for when "filmic rgb" module is not enabled. It's better to use highlight reconstruction tab in "filmic rgb" module, when "filmic rgb" module is enabled. It sounds convoluted, because it is... To be honest, I was puzzled to why it's ON by default in the latest Darktable, it shouldn't be, IMO.
@@StudioPetrikas With 4.0 Aurrelian introduced Guided Laplacian mode to the highlight reconstruction module. And from what i have seen in his tutorials, it is always enabled ? (could be wrong though)
@@Funkyskywalker I'm not aware of that. AFAIK, Highlight reconstruction module should be off when working with the Filmic rgb module. Do you have a specific video as an example?
Well I came from the old film era 60 years ago. And after watching your Part 1. I am going to down load DarkRoom and give it a fair, chance. What do I have to loose? Thank you for taking the time to help me with reeducating myself.
Thanks! It works on JPGs, to an extent, but there's only so much data to work with... I wouldn't say you can "fix" a JPG, but sometimes improvements can be made.
I think it's a similar approach, maybe not as aggressive. And, of course, just because it's "Adobe's secret sauce" stuff, we'll never get to see what's going on there.
Yes, music is one of those things that can either make or break a video. Frankly, I'm having a hard time listening to my self without it. The video feels dry and disjointed. I might look for another track, or try lowering the volume a bit. Would that help?
@@StudioPetrikas The thing is, you're not the target audience of your videos. Everything is fine. The important thing is the information - not distracting from it. It's only dry if you're not interested in it. (Or already know all of it, have listened to it multiple times as a creator etc.) Just get rid of the music. Anyway, thanks for the great videos! They're an invaluable resource.
I don’t find the music distracting, but lowering the volume might help. To me the point is your videos are super rich in information, and you present it pretty quickly, so I struggle to keep up. I sometimes need to relisten to sections to grasp the concepts. Perhaps you might slow down a bit?
If you change the Colour Profile to Pro Photo (ROMM RGB) you don't have the same hue problem. CIE LAB is even better to keep consistent and uniform colors. sRGB is not good for editing.
They're just colour spaces. They don't have mechanics such as primary inset/curve/(primary outset) that filmic does. Eventually, if pushed, they will suffer the same issues as sRGB does.
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Watching this one year later the second time and now it grips! Thanks mister
Thank you for the incredibly well done video. Good luck on your quest to increase global understanding of Filmic RGB
Mate, you're a rockstar. I was looking at the Kodak library of creative photography and those film photos made in the '70s looked a lot better than what I would capture and develop in Lightroom for example. Now I understand the errors of my way and how I can process photos into looking realistic and filmic. Thank you for the video! You just gained a subscriber :)
Now, I finally understand the basics of filmic RGB! You just got a new subscriber (:
Nice and clear! Thanks. Looking forward to part 2.
Hey, thanks! Glad you found it useful!
love this, so glad I clicked on this video
Such a clear, practical demonstration of the improvement that filmic makes. Many, many thanks.
I'm very glad you found it useful. Thanks for the positivity!
Thanks a lot for this video! This makes the usage of the filmic module really easy to understand!
Thanks to you, I now understand the meaning of this module!
Great explanation about a very interesting topic, especially the biology and the darker = less saturation parts! Thanks!
Troy open my eyes! God bless him!
“It’s time for this grotesque mockery of photography to end” 😄👍
Phenomenal stuff.. Subscribed
Excellent video, subbed.
Thanks for the video. I'm wondering whether you had the highlight reconstruction module active or not, and if so, what preference you had set. I'm a bit confused as to why it's on by default in darktable and set to clip highlights, and if it's redundant to the reconstruction in Filmic.
Right, so I have the "Highlight Reconstruction" module disabled, as I use highlight reconstruction in the "filmic rgb" module, when necessary.
That "Highlight Reconstruction" module is meant for when "filmic rgb" module is not enabled.
It's better to use highlight reconstruction tab in "filmic rgb" module, when "filmic rgb" module is enabled.
It sounds convoluted, because it is...
To be honest, I was puzzled to why it's ON by default in the latest Darktable, it shouldn't be, IMO.
@@StudioPetrikas With 4.0 Aurrelian introduced Guided Laplacian mode to the highlight reconstruction module. And from what i have seen in his tutorials, it is always enabled ? (could be wrong though)
@@Funkyskywalker I'm not aware of that. AFAIK, Highlight reconstruction module should be off when working with the Filmic rgb module.
Do you have a specific video as an example?
The figurines with light sabers are a pretty good illustration. 👍
*light swords
Well I came from the old film era 60 years ago. And after watching your Part 1. I am going to down load DarkRoom and give it a fair, chance. What do I have to loose? Thank you for taking the time to help me with reeducating myself.
Useful again, thanks.
Is there a way to mimic what filmic rgb does on lightroom?
Ligthroom somewhat protects from hue shifts automatically to an extent. But you have no control over it.
By far the best Filmic explanation I've come across... Kudos!!
Does it work on high dynamic/RAW images only? Or it can save 8bit JPG also?
Thanks!
It works on JPGs, to an extent, but there's only so much data to work with... I wouldn't say you can "fix" a JPG, but sometimes improvements can be made.
Why is there insane color shift when you crank dehaze?
Good question, not sure. I will have to investigate.
For now, you can use the new "Diffuse and Sharpen" module, it has a built-in "Dehaze" preset.
I know this is a Darktable Tutorial, but now I wonder how LR does this. :-D
I think it's a similar approach, maybe not as aggressive. And, of course, just because it's "Adobe's secret sauce" stuff, we'll never get to see what's going on there.
@@StudioPetrikas I need to test the filmic RGB curves in Dark Table and Compare this to LRs result.
@@NicolasAlexanderOtto I'd be interested to see that!
R& Darktable gang!😀
Gotta keep up with the technology!
@@StudioPetrikas Great video btw. Not too long and to the point.
Wish there was a Mac build of R&Darktable (now called Ansel) - the developer doesn’t own a Mac.
Great video very informing but I found the background music distracting.
Yes, music is one of those things that can either make or break a video. Frankly, I'm having a hard time listening to my self without it. The video feels dry and disjointed. I might look for another track, or try lowering the volume a bit. Would that help?
@@StudioPetrikas lowering it would be worth trying.
@@StudioPetrikas The thing is, you're not the target audience of your videos. Everything is fine. The important thing is the information - not distracting from it. It's only dry if you're not interested in it. (Or already know all of it, have listened to it multiple times as a creator etc.) Just get rid of the music. Anyway, thanks for the great videos! They're an invaluable resource.
I don’t find the music distracting, but lowering the volume might help. To me the point is your videos are super rich in information, and you present it pretty quickly, so I struggle to keep up. I sometimes need to relisten to sections to grasp the concepts. Perhaps you might slow down a bit?
If you change the Colour Profile to Pro Photo (ROMM RGB) you don't have the same hue problem. CIE LAB is even better to keep consistent and uniform colors. sRGB is not good for editing.
They're just colour spaces. They don't have mechanics such as primary inset/curve/(primary outset) that filmic does.
Eventually, if pushed, they will suffer the same issues as sRGB does.
@@StudioPetrikasI was referring to the experiment with Affinity Photo. The hue change is more uniform in CIE LAB. Then of course Filmic is very good.
Cut the crap music. It just distracts. Mind you, the content of this is gold dust though.
Less ranting and arriving at the point a little earlier would help. Currently, the presentation is average!