Fixing broken digital photography with "Filmic". Part 1.

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  • Ever felt like your photos feel uncanny? Ever felt like your photo looks too dark, but too bright at the same time? Increasing exposure just makes everything worse? "Filmic" is here to save you!
    Hue-shifts is something that we see everywhere, constantly, especially in photos or videos taken with smartphones. However, this problem is not limited to smartphones. Hue skews (like the famous "Ratpiss yellow") are everywhere, from 3D Animation, to Big Screen movies. It's very important to recognise it and understand how to avoid it. Otherwise, we might get stuck in this apocalyptic nightmare of image making...
    Abney Effect: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abney_e...
    Interesting thread on "Scene-referred": / 1534923827385249792
    The Hitch-hiker's Guide to Digital Colour: hg2dc.com/
    "Filmic rgb" module in Darktable manual: docs.darktable.org/usermanual...
    Developing a photo from scratch in Darktable using Filmic rgb:
    • [Darktable] Basics: De...
    (by me)
    "Filmic" for Blender:
    • Filmic Color Managemen...
    (by Gleb Alexandrov)
    Using "Filmic" in Affinity Photo:
    • Applying Blender Filmi...
    (by Affinity Photo)
    Using "Filmic" in DaVinci Resolve:
    • Blender Filmic in DaVi...
    (by Louis du Mont)
    Deep dive into "Filmic rgb" in Darktable:
    • Filmic RGB: remap any ...
    (by Aurélien PIERRE)
    Deep(ish) dive into "filmic rgb", part 2:
    • [Darktable 4.0] "Filmi...
    Darktable (Open source):
    www.darktable.org/
    Thank you, Troy:
    / troy_s
    Thank you, Aurélien:
    photo.aurelienpierre.com
    / aur%c3%a9lienpierrephoto
    Support my experiments via Patreon:
    / studiopetrikas
    Photos used in the video:
    02:34 by Kody Dahl unsplash.com/@kodieodie
    02:43 by Corey Young unsplash.com/@corey_untitled
    02:53 by Etty Fidele unsplash.com/@fideletty
    03:35 by Tvetoslav Hristov unsplash.com/@tsvetoslav
    03:40 by Jakob Cotton unsplash.com/@jakobcotton
    03:45 by Bohdan Palahai unsplash.com/@bohdanpalahai
    03:52 by Alexandra Lowenthal unsplash.com/@alexlowenthal
    03:57 by Mo unsplash.com/@meid88
    04:04 by Eric Lee unsplash.com/@erc_lee
    04:05 by Brandon Hoogenboom unsplash.com/@bhoogenboom
    04:05 by Randy Laybourne unsplash.com/@randylaybourne
    04:06 by Iwan Shimko unsplash.com/@iwnph
    04:09 by Pine Watt unsplash.com/@pinewatt
    05:02 by XPS unsplash.com/@xps
    05:25 by Scott Evans unsplash.com/@scottsweb
    05:30 by Balu Gáspár unsplash.com/@balu_gaspar
    Video segments:
    00:00 - 01:34 - An experiment with digital colour
    01:34 - 02:10 - Hue shift / Hue skew
    02:10 - 03:25 - What does "Filmic" do?
    03:35 - 05:08 - Photography philosophy rant
    05:08 - 05:58 - "Filmic rgb" in Darktable
    05:58 - 07:21 - Examples of "broken" colour and fixing it
    07:21 - 09:14 - Middle gray / Neutral gray
    09:14 - 10:48 - The "Filmic" S-curve
    10:48 - 12:17 - Highlight and Shadow desaturation
    12:17 - 13:15 - Closing rant
    #photography #filmic #filmicrgb #darktable #tutorial

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  • @IonutAlexandruApolozan
    @IonutAlexandruApolozan ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Mate, you're a rockstar. I was looking at the Kodak library of creative photography and those film photos made in the '70s looked a lot better than what I would capture and develop in Lightroom for example. Now I understand the errors of my way and how I can process photos into looking realistic and filmic. Thank you for the video! You just gained a subscriber :)

  • @sonjamedic634
    @sonjamedic634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you very much for this video! I was absolutely clueless about what the filmic module in darktable really does. Your explanation gave me a big aha moment.

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ha! The funny thing is, I've recorded an hour of content, and I had to keep reminding myself I'm only helping to take the first steps, so I chopped it all off. It's really easy to go on a tangent, but thinking "what are the things I wish I knew a few years ago" helped a lot. Glad you found it useful!

  • @torrust17
    @torrust17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the incredibly well done video. Good luck on your quest to increase global understanding of Filmic RGB

  • @stefandieke6124
    @stefandieke6124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot for this video! This makes the usage of the filmic module really easy to understand!

  • @bLaffix
    @bLaffix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation about a very interesting topic, especially the biology and the darker = less saturation parts! Thanks!

  • @platoschauvet
    @platoschauvet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love this, so glad I clicked on this video

  • @ruud9767
    @ruud9767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice and clear! Thanks. Looking forward to part 2.

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, thanks! Glad you found it useful!

  • @ekanthgopl
    @ekanthgopl ปีที่แล้ว

    Phenomenal stuff.. Subscribed

  • @leo_pi
    @leo_pi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now, I finally understand the basics of filmic RGB! You just got a new subscriber (:

  • @bernym4047
    @bernym4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such a clear, practical demonstration of the improvement that filmic makes. Many, many thanks.

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm very glad you found it useful. Thanks for the positivity!

  • @emmypuss4533
    @emmypuss4533 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Useful again, thanks.

  • @markbaigent8373
    @markbaigent8373 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, subbed.

  • @norbre
    @norbre 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks to you, I now understand the meaning of this module!

  • @roockvi9282
    @roockvi9282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Troy open my eyes! God bless him!

  • @eagletown8977
    @eagletown8977 ปีที่แล้ว

    “It’s time for this grotesque mockery of photography to end” 😄👍

  • @ytskt
    @ytskt ปีที่แล้ว

    By far the best Filmic explanation I've come across... Kudos!!
    Does it work on high dynamic/RAW images only? Or it can save 8bit JPG also?

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!
      It works on JPGs, to an extent, but there's only so much data to work with... I wouldn't say you can "fix" a JPG, but sometimes improvements can be made.

  • @hankfoto
    @hankfoto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well I came from the old film era 60 years ago. And after watching your Part 1. I am going to down load DarkRoom and give it a fair, chance. What do I have to loose? Thank you for taking the time to help me with reeducating myself.

  • @oldcodger
    @oldcodger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video. I'm wondering whether you had the highlight reconstruction module active or not, and if so, what preference you had set. I'm a bit confused as to why it's on by default in darktable and set to clip highlights, and if it's redundant to the reconstruction in Filmic.

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Right, so I have the "Highlight Reconstruction" module disabled, as I use highlight reconstruction in the "filmic rgb" module, when necessary.
      That "Highlight Reconstruction" module is meant for when "filmic rgb" module is not enabled.
      It's better to use highlight reconstruction tab in "filmic rgb" module, when "filmic rgb" module is enabled.
      It sounds convoluted, because it is...
      To be honest, I was puzzled to why it's ON by default in the latest Darktable, it shouldn't be, IMO.

    • @Funkyskywalker
      @Funkyskywalker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StudioPetrikas With 4.0 Aurrelian introduced Guided Laplacian mode to the highlight reconstruction module. And from what i have seen in his tutorials, it is always enabled ? (could be wrong though)

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Funkyskywalker I'm not aware of that. AFAIK, Highlight reconstruction module should be off when working with the Filmic rgb module.
      Do you have a specific video as an example?

  • @elho001
    @elho001 ปีที่แล้ว

    The figurines with light sabers are a pretty good illustration. 👍

    • @leo_pi
      @leo_pi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *light swords

  • @Photovintageguy
    @Photovintageguy ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is there insane color shift when you crank dehaze?

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good question, not sure. I will have to investigate.
      For now, you can use the new "Diffuse and Sharpen" module, it has a built-in "Dehaze" preset.

  • @MusaonYT
    @MusaonYT ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a way to mimic what filmic rgb does on lightroom?

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ligthroom somewhat protects from hue shifts automatically to an extent. But you have no control over it.

  • @NicolasAlexanderOtto
    @NicolasAlexanderOtto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this is a Darktable Tutorial, but now I wonder how LR does this. :-D

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it's a similar approach, maybe not as aggressive. And, of course, just because it's "Adobe's secret sauce" stuff, we'll never get to see what's going on there.

    • @NicolasAlexanderOtto
      @NicolasAlexanderOtto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@StudioPetrikas I need to test the filmic RGB curves in Dark Table and Compare this to LRs result.

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NicolasAlexanderOtto I'd be interested to see that!

  • @procopio3k
    @procopio3k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    R& Darktable gang!😀

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta keep up with the technology!

    • @procopio3k
      @procopio3k 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StudioPetrikas Great video btw. Not too long and to the point.

    • @abulka
      @abulka ปีที่แล้ว

      Wish there was a Mac build of R&Darktable (now called Ansel) - the developer doesn’t own a Mac.

  • @markclancy4246
    @markclancy4246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video very informing but I found the background music distracting.

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, music is one of those things that can either make or break a video. Frankly, I'm having a hard time listening to my self without it. The video feels dry and disjointed. I might look for another track, or try lowering the volume a bit. Would that help?

    • @markclancy4246
      @markclancy4246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StudioPetrikas lowering it would be worth trying.

    • @leidischd
      @leidischd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StudioPetrikas The thing is, you're not the target audience of your videos. Everything is fine. The important thing is the information - not distracting from it. It's only dry if you're not interested in it. (Or already know all of it, have listened to it multiple times as a creator etc.) Just get rid of the music. Anyway, thanks for the great videos! They're an invaluable resource.

    • @solitone
      @solitone ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t find the music distracting, but lowering the volume might help. To me the point is your videos are super rich in information, and you present it pretty quickly, so I struggle to keep up. I sometimes need to relisten to sections to grasp the concepts. Perhaps you might slow down a bit?

  • @rndvideo64
    @rndvideo64 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you change the Colour Profile to Pro Photo (ROMM RGB) you don't have the same hue problem. CIE LAB is even better to keep consistent and uniform colors. sRGB is not good for editing.

    • @StudioPetrikas
      @StudioPetrikas  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're just colour spaces. They don't have mechanics such as primary inset/curve/(primary outset) that filmic does.
      Eventually, if pushed, they will suffer the same issues as sRGB does.

    • @rndvideo64
      @rndvideo64 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@StudioPetrikasI was referring to the experiment with Affinity Photo. The hue change is more uniform in CIE LAB. Then of course Filmic is very good.

  • @alangaughran
    @alangaughran ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cut the crap music. It just distracts. Mind you, the content of this is gold dust though.

  • @rishavkumar8341
    @rishavkumar8341 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Less ranting and arriving at the point a little earlier would help. Currently, the presentation is average!