How Not to Make an RPG - Final Fantasy The 4 Heroes of Light | Stiles' Series Synopsis
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- How did Matrix Software go so wrong with this one after having done such a good job with the DS remakes of Final Fantasy III and IV? From a terrible job system to awful dungeon design, this spiritual precursor to Bravely Default gets almost nothing right. Join Stiles as he critiques this highly disappointing adventure.
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The Epic portrayal of the tragedy for lack of jrpgs during that time is absolutely amazing I felt that dread during those years
XD i am glad someome liked that bit haha
It was an amazing time for bootlegging every classic rpg I could get my hands on, especially translated rpgs that never made it to the states. I remember that laptop full of every rpg/games from ps1 to OG Nintendo, now I'm old and there's nothing left to enjoy. 😂
i thought the game was decent, but i do agree with your points. i recently replayed it and i thought the art direction hard carried it. all the bosses ended up being the same strategy, magic might, lux, mysterio, finale, cure. I am glad it exists as bravely exists because of it, and i wanna try that game again. im still new to final fantasy, so i guess its uphill from here.
Oh boy, I remember a friend getting me tales of symphonia for my b day and at the party my friends were super excited to play it together, not realizing that for the first few hours you're almost entirely limited to 1 or 2 party members. That was awkward lol.
Yeah, to me the Tales series is single player only, even if the box says otherwise. Having a friend mash buttons when there happens to be battles is a very limited amount of gameplay in and rpg
Just going to bookmark this video for later.
4 heroes of light is easily one of my favorite RPGs ever, it's not a good game, but it's undeniably charming and had some bold design decisions, most didn't land, but they all stuck with me ever since I played it. Yeah, it's not good, but there's nothing else quite like it to me, and that's better than a good but forgettable game (Nostalgia, another DS RPG meant to be a throwback comes to mind).
I'll watch this video once I replay the game, which I've been meaning to do for a while. I do disagree with the title though, it's not because some ideas were poorly executed that this style of game is wrong, if you want to see how not to do an RPG, look at the original Wizardry games.
Hope this doesn't come off as an offense, I respect your opinion and I'm glad you did a video on it, whether you liked it or not, it seems you also are passionate about it in some way.
Atleast, it gave us the Bravely(s)...
Credit where credit is due, this game did spawn the Bravely Default series.
Yeah, I mention that in the video
The Heroes of Light aesthetic was immaculate which explains why it remains etched on my memories, especially the bosses, but after seeing this video I understand why my unscrupulous young self played through it with crown cheat codes enabled.
I'm surprised too see a game review of this so recently, I just remembered playing it as a kid and wanted too try it again since I didn't get that far, and decided too emulate it too do so since I couldn't find a copy. Glad I didn't waste money again, but I'm honestly having fun again so far, might be nostalgia
Thanks for watching and commenting! Ive been very slowly making videos on every single FF game, this one got reviewed when it did basically so i could test out my 3DS capture card lol
@@StilesReviews well ill have too check out the rest of your reviews then :3
The town design looks so good, with the opening shot of wind brushing the dry grass. I still might get a copy just because of that 😂
It really does. Game had beautiful art design in towns!
I'm playing this rn and it makes me so sad how the crown(class) system is not something to experiment but to make the player filter which of them will help them in the long run.
This is such an missed potential... After watching the video I thought about learning to mod theses NDS games just so I can modify this game it, I love the style and, to an degree, the battle system of AP.
I was ready to disagree, but yeah, you're right about the mechanics. I still like the look and feel of towns and characters (there's nothing really to like about the empty hallways that are the dungeons, tho).
It looks fantastic, probably one of the best aged 3D Nintendo DS games.
I disagree almost with everything you said but hopefully you'll get the views from such a reactionary title. So far so good.
not gonna lie, i beat this game 2 times because i love this game so much
Glad you enjoyed it. I've also beaten it twice but.. well.. my video already gives my opinion xD
Great review. I always feel that while new creative turn based RPGs are still being made nowadays, they still have the same objective of AAA games: we need X hours of story content. Back when games were limited by storage space the objective was way different: We need to make a great story that fits in a X kB cartridge. And that makes the end result pretty different games (even when they use older games as inspirations, like I am Setsuna).
It's a big reason most Open World games don't appeal to me for long. Games should always strive for Quality over Quantity.
Nossa achei o caturiges oloko gosto muito das suas reviews de metroid mano
I totally disagree with the part about enemies scaling to your level. If you want to grind, you won't find yourself blasting through the game with no difficulty at all, and you can still explore the job system without ending with that overleveled experience, while if you just want to focus on progressing without exploring that much the job system you can still progress without finding a lvl wall in your way, making the game enjoyable for two completely opposite playstyles.
If I recall correctly, the level scaling is SPECIFICALLY in the bonus dungeons, though it's been a while since I did the research for this video. I don't remember overleveling being an issue in the game anyway because you get exp really slowly.
@@StilesReviews I don't know if the game scales to me or not tbh, but that's what I understood in the video, my bad if it's not what you said. I feel like the bosses might scale, because despite me grinding a bit, sometimes some of my characters die, even trying to play safe.
I loved Lost Odyssey shame it was stuck on the 360. Easily my favorite turn based rpg of the 7th gen.
I am deeply ashamed to admit that i still havent played past the first couple of hours... its been on my to play list for over a decade
@@StilesReviews Yeah I think that's a lot of people. The 360 only had a few rpgs but I liked all of them.
@@OneStopBopShop The 360's JRPGs were weird because early on? It had the most. Microsoft knew their lack of JRPGs was a huge flaw so they actually put out a bounty on JRPGs: They would help fund any JRPG that came to 360 (with implied exclusivity). That's why FromSoftware rushed out the uncharacteristically anime Enchanted Arms, why Tales of Vesperia happened first (and likely why we didn't get the PS3 version: I bet it was partially funded by MS to be an exclusive and Namco abused a loophole to make the PS3 version. Just a hunch), and indeed why Microsoft bankrolled MistWalker's RPGs Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey.
But JRPG fans were convinced the PS3 would have more just because of what happened last gen and there was a weird backlash against JRPGs and anime styling in general that generation (likely due to anime hitting mainstream fad levels around 2005 and there were an overwhelming number of "Everything from Japan is superior to everything else"-types around that time) so the need for 360 JRPGs petered out.
My favorite 360 RPG was Magna Carta 2, one of the few that was playable on a standard definition TV (I literally wear glasses now from trying to play JRPGs on 360 on SD TVs) and once you get the hang of its weird action turn-based hybrid combat, it's pretty fun...but it's also Korean so not EXACTLY a JRPG. Lost Odyssey was clearly good but...I actually had to stop because it made me cry too much. That game had too many feels.
The music in lo is amazing
Another great video like always! Love your well written and analytical video. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching and commenting! Glad you enjoyed it
Oh MAN! Good to see another video from you and I wholeheartedly agree. I haaated 4 Heroes of Light but that was because it was a faux throwback. I was seriously bothered by how they used chiptune music yet not a single familiar Final Fantasy tune or jingle (not even the victory fanfare). Like...what's the point of making it chiptune then?! This felt like a case of a game trying to be modern and retro at the same time and the ideas clashing horribly...much like the DS remake of FF3 that I hate too. It was even more frustrating because the spin-offs Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Tales and Mario Sports Mix both do a great job of being Final Fantasy throwback games and I always wished they'd make an RPG based on those games...but for some reason as soon as they decide to make an RPG, all the Final Fantasy throwback elements go out the window. That was my beef with World of Final Fantasy as well.
Also I actually agree on Tales of Eternia being the best! Well more accurately I really like Tales in 2D over 3D and unfortunately due to Sony America's garbage "quality control" policies, we never got most of the GOOD 2D Tales games. Thankfully a fan translation of the PS2 remake of Tales of Destiny just came out and I'm almost in tears with how good that game is as Destiny PS2 is my dream Tales game...though I wish it had the Combo Command item.
...and yeah you're not wrong, Tales took off because it had no competition. Tales isn't a hyper polished JRPG series, it's a middle budget, regularly churned out series that builds off of and experiments with its base concepts and evolves them over time. Heck, I'm actually worried about the upcoming Tales of Arise because spending 5 years in development and trying to make a polished AAA Tales game goes completely against the series identity (to say nothing of the more generic non-linear motion combat and lack of multiplayer support).
Anyway keep up the good work! Oh and as for Bravely Default? I'm new to the series but from what I've seen, I think Bravely Default 1 was a brilliant fluke and both of its sequels fall woefully short of understanding what made that first game great.
Thanks for the long an in depth comment. I really want to play Tales of Rebirth, but that one has been in fan translator limbo for almost a decade now. I saw the Destiny Remake translation also... im glad it is out but also wish they had prioritized Destiny 2, since it doesnt havw an english version at all yet.
As for Bravelt Default... -spoilers- i enjoyed what i played until the atupid freakin' time loop, which was so furiatingly tedious i put the game down and never picked it up again. I feel like it too was a game that was over praised because we werent getting a lot of classic style jrpgs at the time.
Thanks for reminding me how much I dislike this game. I almost made the mistake of playing it again, not remembering that they made ALL the wrong design choices. At leat, choices that weren't purely aesthetic. The game is just not fun to play.
Happy to be of service lol
I still really like this game. I found it to be a smooth, simple experience with great music and art style. It's gameplay wasn't a failure in my opinion, even though some things weren't designed too well. But I'll respect your opinion. Some people like this game, and others won't.
'Some people like this game and others won't' is a statement that can be made about literally any video game ever made haha. I am glad you enjoyed it though and appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment.
"Tales of Eternia is the best one"
🙏YES! PREACH!! 🙏
As someone who has a very mixed opinion on most Tales games, Eternia was a delight to play through, charming, beautiful, a decent soundtrack and an adorable cast. It's up there with Phantasia as the only games in the series I can say I genuinely love.
Beautiful game. One of my favorites, but you have to play it much differently than everything you've known before. This is basically where Bravely Default started.
I didn't have such lofty expectations of this though. And getting 100% is freaking impossible.
Great video, i just started tgr game, now wondering if worth carrying on just got to garue
Nice video! Love the organization and progression through the video. As for the game, I played it when I was in high school. I never managed to play through it. I bought it again just last year and still couldn't get into it. And I actually felt it might have been the old-school elements that turned me off, but after watching your video and further reflection, I think that is wrong. I happily played NES FF 1, Dragon Warrior, and recently FE 1 and 2 without much problem. The problem does likely stem from the battle mechanics and story not jiving with me.
Thank you as always for leaving such a thoughtful comment, glad you enjoyed the video! What is likely a lot more contentious is I didn't care for what I played of Bravely Default either, yet everyone seems to love it and claims it's 'FF in all but name!" I mean.. in terms of theming and mechanics yeah... but not in terms of quality when compared to the games it is aping from.
@@StilesReviews My main issue with Bravely Default is the battle system. I think the BP system is dumb. I think it ruins the entire flow of turn-based battles. Battles in Bravely Default turn into trying to defeat the enemy before they even get a turn or the enemy shoving you in the dirt by getting two turns a piece against your characters. And dexterity affects BP...but like that's it. Final Fantasy X is my favorite turn-based battle system. You can potentially have characters get two turns in a row. But this is dependent on your actions. In FFX, every character is meshed together dependent on speed. With a haste buff and quick attack or delay attack, you can potentially dominate the amount of turns you get as opposed to an enemy. And this even serves as a strategy against malboro that can ambush and bad breath you. For starters, there is a lot of back and forth between you and the enemy. And also, you have the agency in planning how you affect turns. It isn't some BP stack. And I think FFX has a WAY better flow in its battles. And having two attacks in a row feels more earned. You don't have all your characters attacking right away automatically. BP just doesn't feel interesting mechanically to me. I think it sucks, especially comparing it to FFX where you can kinda, sorta do similar things. FFX would be the perfect turn based game to me if there was more balance to the progression system and maybe the characters had set roles through the entire game. But I guess then Tidus would be like the only person able to manipulate the act list, which would throw that mechanic out the window. Is Tidus a Time Mage? xD Also, sucks that Blu Magic and Alchemy are locked behind overdrives, but off topic. But yeah, I think the flow of battles in BD is terrible and I think the turn based battles in BD are boring as hell because of it.
Sorry for the long reply, but I just wanted to explain why I disliked BD while praising my favorite Final Fantasy :P
@@johngrose77 I remembered thinking the BP system didn't work well also... but it's been so long now since I've played more than a bit to capture footage that I can't say for sure.
Extremely well thought out, can’t believe weapons and armor wasn’t class locked and the finite gem system seems butchered
Thanks for watching. And yeah... the game is... well, you saw the video. I really wanted to like it but the more I played the worse it got.
That was one of my problems with FF Explorers on 3DS. Though, it wasn't with equipment there as the equipment was restricted to a certain degree, but not by a lot actually (every job could wear the Sephiroth outfit). But the abilities could be used by any job. And there didn't seem to be much meaningful differences between jobs.
Oh yeah... I was playing FF Explorers about 6 months ago then got bored... Wanted to recover that one since my original video was awful and I couldn't even record my own footage, but I have a 3DS capture card now so..
@@StilesReviews Have you played Monster Hunter? I don't think it is terrible. But I have played Monster Hunter. And Monster Hunter is leagues above FFE. I mean I am a FF fan and I will play any FF game, but to anyone else, I would say play Monster Hunter over FFE. But I guess it offers a casual experience to Monster Hunter. And honestly, FFE probably does party roles better than Monster Hunter technically, but does Monster Hunter need party roles? Not sure about that one xD If I recall, FFE tried to have bursts from FFXI too? I wonder if any XI staff worked on FFE.
Ive tried a bit of Monster Hunter but have only played solo which kind of ruins the point. Id 100 percent agree that it is way better than FFexplorers though
I mean to be fair a lot of the criticisms of infinite money,oversights and unbalanced jobs that make you wonder if this was even play tested actually does make this very faithful to 8bit JRPGs.
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You made reviews of the remakes of FF1-3....you need to play the 8bit originals. FF1 is held together by 3M tape. Half of the game doesn't even work.
I have played all the originals, but my goal has always been to try and review the definitive versions of each title. A big part of why these vids take so long is because i do complete run throughs of every released version before writing haha. A lack of balance is, to a point, an intended featurs of job system games, otherwise experimentation would be pointless, but they definitely took it a bit to far here imo. Thank you for watching and commenting!
@@StilesReviewsBeing a fan of SaGa, i have no clue if the balancing was on purpose or not. Akitoshi Kawazu is the real mad man at Square Enix not Nomura. I'm surprised he didn't get fired after the stunt he pulled with the ultima spell in FFII. At this point he's the whacky college professor with tenure.
Thanks for the review!
I remember hearing about how some people weren't able to beat the final boss of this one because they were too over-levelled (probably making for an excruciatingly long fight they just couldn't endure). But even after that and this fantastic review I still find myself interested in giving it a shot. I guess I just can't say no to nostalgia-inspired JRPGs ;P
I always recommend trying games out for yourself if they look fun. I love plenty of games that others say are bad.
im not a jrpg nerd and i've been enjoying that game, the game got simplistic beauty in my opinion.
good review tho
Thanks for watching and commenting, glad you enjoyed it!
my top tier favorite game i already done twice. nowadays 4 hero of light evolve to bravely series. bravely series is also a masterpiece i already done bravely series too now i'm waiting for next upcoming bravely default game.
Glad you enjoy the game so much, definitely wasn't for me haha
Ngl ATLUS and Falcom single-handedly carried the 7th generation of JRPGs. ATLUS put out Persona 3 and 4, Raidou Kuzunoha vs King Abaddon, Strange Journey, and Shin Megami Tensei IV, which is easily one of the greatest JRPGs ever made, and Falcom put out the Ys and Trails games.
I do realize that the first 3 are very late PS2 games, but both P3 and P4 got expanded versions on the PSP and Vita, and went on to be some of the best games on the systems, with P4G being widely regarded as THE best game on the Vita, with Trails of Cold Steel I+II following behind.
They didnt really 'carry'anything since they were still considered prettt niche at the time, and most of those were PS2 or ha dheld titles which still kind of supports my point. Of those I have played though, they are all pretty great! I really want to get into the Trails games... but i tried Trails in the Sky, spent like 4 hours watching story with no real gameplay and burnt out. I like to play my games, not read them xD. Hoping i can find the patience to try them again, as i do enjoy a lot of text heavy games when im in the right mood. Does Trails in the Sky gain better pacing or is it all text all the time? I genuinely want to enjoy them because i hear nothing but praise.
@@StilesReviews I've yet to get into Trails myself lmao. But all my friends talk about how great they were. I played a bit of Cold Steel a few years ago and really liked it, but last my Vita copy.
And I personally would consider it carrying because I'm a JRPG fan and if I want to play a JRPG, I would seek them out, you know? A lot of them jumped to handhelds because of the portability, like Dragon Quest IX, along with all the DS remakes. In terms of big budget console JRPGs though, I can definitely see the drought for turn-based games.
Strange Journey is the only thing you listed that is from the 7th gen.
The PS2 is 6th gen and SMT4 was 3DS which was 8th gen.
@@StilesReviewsYes Trails in the Sky FC does pick up the pace. If you replay it I envy you because for us who played it back in 2011 the cliffhanger we waited for 4 years for Trails in the Sky SC WAS HELL.
@@Chelaxim Handhelds are different. Also, generations overlap. The 3DS and Vita came out in the middle of the 7th gen, so they aren't 8th generation. They are a side generation to the consoles. SMT IV came out in 2013, which was during the JRPG drought, thus making it apart of it. Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden were both in the middle of the 7th gen, so I don't know what you mean there.
Think you killed it this time with the mechanical discussion. Really concise, informative, and pleasant to think about. Fantastic job!
Thanks! Glad you think i did well
How does this channel not have more subs?!
Anyway, now I've said TH-cam Stereotypical Comment #47, I am glad this video exists. A lot of times people seem to have a hard time stating what specifically makes a game feel kinda "ehh." It definitely reminds me a little of Bravely Default (which you should play at some point; there's a little bit of a sloggy bit 3/4 of the way through but the true ending is _bananas_ and I don't think I've smiled that much during a JRPG boss... probably ever before than or since? It's great The others are pretty okay.)... um...
Oh, yeah, it reminds me of BD but the execution being focused in a slightly different way looks like it brought the whole thing down. A lot of games do that and sometimes it leads to a better game later.
Or someone like EA absorbs them, makes them do stuff they've never done before, is surprised when it isn't good and then takes them out back to re-enact _Ol' Yeller._ Or, probably better, the company just straight-up closes. Quicker that way, yeah?
I got to 'that part' in Bravely Default years ago... hated that section so much that i put the game down and never picked it up again.
Thanks for watching and commenting, it is greatly appreciated! Really means a lot to hear that people like my stuff, especially on vids like this that get less attention because very few peoppe know or remember that this game ever existed lol
@@StilesReviews I forgot it existed until, like two days ago. Not a huge amount of info so I searched and this popped up. Sometimes the Almighty YT Algorithm can do okay... if you really guide it.
Well i am glad it brought you to my stuff then lol
I really need to go back and replay 4HoL. Admittedly, I'd forgotten most of the nuances you complain about, like the lack of targeting, but I still remember being quite fond of the game. I'd be interest to go back and see how much that nostalgia still holds up for me.
Besides, I technically never finished the game... which admittedly might sound like a strike against it, but was less to do with me getting bored with the game and more to do with me being a bit of an overly obsessive perfectionist and I got hung up while trying to grind out one particular boss's rare drop.
I'm pretty sure I've still got my old save file, so I could probably pickup where I left off, but I would probably want to start up a new file, at least long enough to refamiliarize myself with the gameplay.
I liked playing through this game!
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Yeeep! One milestone reached. Goal is to hit 1 Mil by the end of the month, get too it everyone lol
@@StilesReviews Gonna be ballin once you get x1000 your sub count in less than 2 months, lol.
"Because it was far too forgiving" 💀💀
Awesome review.
Thank you, im glad you enioyed it!
I love your content!
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you enjoy it!
Play the Trails series.
Interesting! Thank you 🙏
Thanks for watching and commenting
I almost never hear about this game in general JRPG discourse. Now I understand why.
Brilliant video!
Thanks for watching and commenting, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I forgot this game even existed, now I'm happy I never bought it back in the day. Thanks for the video, I'm happy to see more from you
Thanks as usual for watching and commenting!
Tales of graces f is the best one.
#justacommentofappreciation
FYI in regards to FF XIII, don’t state opinions as if they’re fact. Did you even play the game.
I'm glad my obvious joke somehow came off as 'me stating a fact'. I thought the visual cut off and sound effect would've made it clear it was tongue in cheek. And yes, I've beaten every Final Fantasy game, spin-off and otherwise, besides Stranger of Paradise, FFXIV and Lightning Returns. I've 100 percented FFXIII, and beaten it normally three times total. My OPINION is that I don't like the game, despite appreciating what it was going for.
I knew that, it's just most videos of people bashing the game (and most other bashing game reviews for that matter) are REALLY bad. I also personally didn't like 4 Heroes of Light. @@StilesReviews
Looks like FFIII DS but prettier
It basically is, same design team too (Matrix Software). This one just plays WAY worse
Since the only DS games I have played are Final Fantasy 3 and Tales of the Tempest, I have a really low opinion on the DS games in general, like when I see DS game I cringe internally. The writing for those two is just something I really can't stand for the life of me. I, of course, understand that not all DS games are like that, probably, but I can't shake this feeling with logic. Devil Survivor 1 & 2 are technically DS games I guess, but they are 3DS games for me, so it doesn't help (those are awesome). From what I've seen, FF The 4 Heroes of Light seems like the same deal.
Ds had a lot of great games, but youve definitely gotten a bad handful haha. I really like what ive played of Devil Survivor, owned it on original DS and have the 3DS one now.
That's actually sad because the DS had some of the best JRPGs of that generation. Namely Dragon Quest IX and especially Radiant Historia. I'd also give a shout out to Super Robot Taisen: OG Saga: Endless Frontier though that can be a bit of an acquired taste. Also the other 2 or 3 DS Tales games (Keroro RPG is a Tales game) are MUCH better.
...oh and Phantasy Star Zero and Blue Dragon: Awakened Shadow were solid multiplayer dungeon crawlers with good single player too. I also REALLY like Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals but that's a weird mixed bag (one minute I'm stun locked by MOTHS, the next I've turned the canonically weakest character into someone so strong no one else can compete with her extreme damage to the point where that HAS to be a bug).
And then there's SaGa 2 and 3 remakes, also acquired tastes but the SaGa 2 remake is literally my favorite RPG of all time...and DQ9 is my second or third favorite...so 2 of my 3 favorites are on DS. Huh. I feel like there are other really good ones I'm forgetting but if I had to recommend one I'd probably go with Radiant Historia.
Had never heard of Kerero before... adding it to my list of games to look into
@@GELTONZ shoutout to Rune Factory Series (specially RF3) and also Soma Bringer (which was never released in America but nonetheless its an amazing RPG too).
Funnily enough, 4HoL and weird DS jank are thoroughly enjoyable to me, I'll have to check out tales of the tempest some time, I'm always looking for more obscure DS RPGs.
My God man your ability to portray my emotions right back to me through this video is amazing
Well im glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you very much for watching and commenting!
Turn based JRPGs are still to this day few and far between.
Not really. Not like that era anyway. Indie turn based games come out all the time, and even the big names are dropping a decent number, though they do tend ro be lower budget. Just this year we have Persona 3 Reload, Like a Dragon zinfinite Wealth, Eiyuden Chronicles, SaGa Emerald Beyond, Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door, Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance, Metaphor: Re:Fantazio, Legend of Legacy HD, Legend of Heroes: Trails through Daybreak...the list goes on
Honestly if you think turn based games are rare right now you really arent looking very hard,
@@StilesReviews they're still rate. I don't play indie games, indont play pixel games, and I've never been into the SMT franchise, Like a Dragon is an action beatem up franchise.
The Two newest main entries in the like a dragon series are turn based rpgs. And thats a shame that you dont play all of those, you are missing out. You not liking a lot of the games doesnt make them rare, it just means you don't like them.
@StilesReviews if i wanted a turn based game, I wouldn't play Like a Drsgon. I'm a franchise purist. I play a specific franchise to play a specific style of game. I don't go into Call of Duty expecting or advocating it be a looter shooter.
Why?
Why what? Why did i play the game? Why did i make this video? Why is the game bad? Well the last one is answered through said vid!
@@StilesReviews All of the above.
Because, despite being charming and having interesting ideas, most of 4HoL is poorly executed and somewhat of an acquired taste.
Though I do think calling it "how not to make an RPG" is a bit hyperbole.
@@amimm7776 It was a DS game that was constricted by hardware, time and staff. The game mecanics were serviceable enough that I never thought of them as a real problem and the story is a classic retelling of FF's old premise and is very aware of it. Why are we down playing the importance of art direction, character writing and music in an jrpg? I agree the execution could have been better but I apprecciate the risks the game took. I played Bravely first then 4HoL, and while I love Bravely I much rather play 4HoL.
Always nice to see a thorough review that understands that this game is dogshit.
Thank you, I think lol. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@StilesReviews great vid!
Jeez, yeah, it's not that good, but I've played way way worse, I wouldn't call it dogshit.
Beautiful art style. I'd buy a game that looks like this today. But the combat was just a few plums short of a fruit pie 🫤
so accurate thanks! 10/10 great review i felt the same with the point system..... such a blunder.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Yeah i really wish the AP worked better
Honestly this game is my favorite is because..
• I like this game art style, most areas feels like out of story book.
• Monster design are so damn cool especially seven sins design.
• this game second part gets really creepy.
• Game sountrack is really good.
• love the amount of customization this game give and you can dress your party members in a most funniest way as possible.
• love how one your party member is raised by literal satan.
• super boss collection is really unique like you literally fight a rat and your save point women.
• give us bravely series.
• i love janky games like koudelka and persona 1.
(Your review and video is pretty great but i gotta disagree.)