How to get your Players to Roleplay in Dungeons and Dragons
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I'm glad you hit the key point - you can RP a character without "acting". Yes, voices make it more obvious, but any in-character decisions are good RP
I'd go further. It's perfectly possible do to awesome voice acting while failing to roleplay. It's the decisions that make the roleplay.
Definitely. Voices are great, but for characters/players it is making decisions that reinforce the character you're playing. Doing that drives your character's story and in the end means no one has to ask why you did anything you chose to do. Roleplaying does not mean just going off in a pub, it means being consistent with your character when the *bleep* goes down, in the moment, in the tomb or dungeon. Sure, it might also mean NOT doing the expected to save the party but then later making sure the party knows why you made that decision. That roleplaying moment might really drive your party nuts but might also make for other roleplaying moments.
My players always know when an NPC is important, because they have a developed voice. If it is someone random, it is just a slightly higher or lower version of my voice.
Gentry Lee I try to look the player I'm talking to in the eye, and talk to their characters, making every NPC important.
I'd say voices are just useful to distinguish in charecter and out of charecter dialogue
I love the point that roleplay is different for everyone.
I have one player that always speaks of the character in third person: “Tazri does [x.] Tazri says [x.]” and it was jarring for me at first because I’m a very first-person roleplayer
But I noticed his decisions were ALWAYS in character. He didn’t metagame and he still interacted with other characters in a very in-character way.
As a male, I noticed that I always RP male characters in first person, but RP female character often in third person.
Introverts will often RP in third person I guess
I would discourage this. Or, rather, I encourage first person discourse.
The key is to remember that the roleplay lies in making the decisions for your character that you think they would make if they and their world were real. Third-person, first-person, immersive acting, the're all just the method being used.
In one of my games we had one character (okay he was an NPC kobold who joined the party as a helper because at the time we only had 2 PCs in the game. ) who always referred to himself in 3rd person.
I don't see this as a PROBLEM for your RPer, but instead as a potential for even more and better role play. First off, it's fun, and your player is obviously RPing. Then I'd start to ask questions,like WHY did the character start to "step outside himself" and see himself in the 3rd person. Was there some early childhood abuse or trauma that causes Tazri to speak about himself in a distanced way? Or is it just the natural way his particular tribe/nation speaks? If the former, it could be a pretty neat character arc From Tazri in 3rd person, to Tazri in first person, enabling his ownership of himself.
Either way,, I'd take a bit of out of game time to talk to the player and ask WHY Tazri speaks in 3rd person, "This is very cool, but is there a particular reason you character ta;ls this way?
Best strategy I feel is to roleplay heavily yourself as DM
Always works
agree
Taking the lead!
@@elgatochurro if they have the personality of a log... dont play with them.
I have had the experience of a game where most of the players were roleplaying more than the DM, who was growing frustrated with it, presumably because it was derailing the campaign.
@@elgatochurro There's noting inherently wrong with that.
Hahaha that shirt tho "I'm dead inside" pink dolphins and smiling suns. 😊
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I actually started my current campaign with my players being childhood friends, and the beginning of the campaign took place at their hometown during a festival!
I'm personally not a voice actor, but I still rather enjoy acting as my character 'should'. A while ago I nearly had an in-character scuffle with another PC over an ideological difference. And while our characters (mine in particular) were about to come out swinging and really tense, out of character we were rather enjoying ourselves and having fun. The other player told me after the fact that he actually WANTED his guy to get his ass kicked in because he was a snobby elf wizard (currently badly injured and easy to beat to boot) who pretty much deserved it.
It was actually a really intense moment that was about to escalate and the other PCs caught on and were attempting to diffuse the situation before it came to blows as actual travel friends would and should. When they quickly failed, they even picked sides! Something that actually changed my outlook of another PC when they sided against me and simultaneously changed my view of another PC who sided with me (2v2). My 'side' was rather stacked though. The 2 against me were badly injured and had lower AC. Even at level 3, I could have taken them both out single-handedly. With or without being hit myself as I was still in reasonable shape. It was 2 totally spent full casters who are both under 5 HP against 2 martial classes (fighter + bard) with nearly full HP.
This was a rather silent yet intense RP situation going on that even the DM didn't pick up on as he was caught up explaining things as we just ended the 'boss encounter'. And while this was all said and done in like 3-4 minutes; it's the most memorable moment of that entire session for the entire group and we were discussing it for days on discord (at least I was).
But back on topic of the video now that story time's over, the other 2 PCs were pretty damn quiet for most of the session and our more RP-heavy player was absent. This RP situation brought them in and the weight of it even carried over to the following session.
Thanks for mentioning the "It's what my character would do" excuse for bad behaviour, it's a problem sometimes when people are not on the same page as far as campaign/one shot tone or general behaviour at the table.
It's a collaborative game first and a personal one second, and that balance can take a while to understand sometimes.
That being said, it works great when a PC has a secret or certain elements of the backstory have not been revealed to that point. Apparently "shocking" decisions can be made if it fits the character, but never at the expense of the general atmosphere at the table.
My DM bought some LED orbs that get activated whenever you are inspired. It fun and not only reminds you to use your inspiration, it feels inspirational and you want to earn it! He is in the "give it when you do good role-playing" strategy and I like it as a player
Guys, I've only played 2 games of dnd in my life, and I'm about to be a DM for the first time ever and I'm scared lol. These videos are very helpful :)
Just have fun with your friends. Don’t worry so much about memorizing the rules, just know what notes you want the story to hit, and be open to adapting to what your players want to do. Good luck, and happy rolling!
The only reason Kelly role plays is to escape the fact that he's dead inside.
Darien B I’d happily give him a reason to live.
... Don't we all?
Jeff Vaden 7 months late but amen to that bro
Some important GM Hints for encouraging RP, especially regarding NPCs:
1. Ask your players "What would your character do in this situation..?"
2. Speak to your player friends in character, directly. In the eyes, as the npc!
3. Personality/Attitude is better effective than a direct impersonation (Meaning: how you portray a NPC is more about the way things are said, as opposed to trying to create a personality simply by using (an often stereotypical) voice..)
Hope this helps someone!
I DMed a game with my family for my birthday recently. Two of the players are seven so I simpified some things for them. I definitely learned a lot from the Dungeon Dudes from these videos and their Dungeons of Drakkenheim Episodes. I love you guys and love that you're Canadian. Just the fact that you mentioned Meeplemart in your miniatures video blew me away lol.
Love the shirt Kelly.
Seriously where do we get that shirt?
Somtimes I like to discover my character's personallity, ideals, bonds, flaws, and alignment, as I play them.
Something about Inspiration: When I DM'd the one-shot I did, I've given out 1 instance of Inspiration.
What did I do to encourage RP regardless? If they give me a good explanation or RP out what their character does? They'll get Advantage on the check, and I might lower the DC.
The most impactful one: A Goliath that had to re-kill their entire clan after a necromancer desecrated them by turning them into his undead thralls.. Gave an earnest and heartfelt speech to the deity the party was tasked with freeing from captivity, about not seeking vengeance on the race that trapped it there.
Honestly, being their god, and KNOWING what that character has gone through.. I didn't even make them roll. There was NO CHANCE they could fail with that kinda speech.
And I think that's something that a lot of players and DMs don't really appreciate or use. If you can manage an amazing bit of RP with an NPC? Sometimes the usual check isn't needed, because you've removed the chance of failure.
People often don't do this. They just give advantage. I love it. Thanks for sharing.
@@AllThingsFascinate A lot of DMs forget that not everything needs a roll.
Climbing a tree? Don't need a roll. Unless it's raining and there's not much in the way of branches to hold on to.
..But then there'd be no roll because it's pretty much impossible to get up there anyway.
Watching my players roleplay and take over the lead is a great moment for me, I always have a small icebreaker conversation at the begining of every session with a usually non important npc. I usually turn to the stronger roleplayers first and make sure to speak to all the party in my voices that I do for my NPCs. The sillier I get with my roleplay, tends to make the party ease up and start roleplaying as well
a thing that helps me roleplay is describing my actions, i dont "attack", i hit the goblin over the head with my staff, or do a jumpkick to his face (monks yo!).
And for my sorcerer i descripe what i do, then tell the gm the spell and roll the dice, then explain the effect. Counterspell is a small below freezing degrees water orb that i will through the air to the caster i want to interrupt, and if i hit it lands on their forehead, freezing instantly and disrupts their cast. or the mini meteors i can make, they come from me holding my arcane focus (an arcane orb sat on my staff) in my hand and then leading the orb in an arch above my head infront of me, creating the meteors as it goes along, and they stay there floating untill i use them.
It's also super fun to come up with thiese effects that fits for my characters.
That Dice Camera Action reference in the intro feels like an honor but also cuts really deep.
I've been watching you on 2x speed the whole time, and whenever it's on normal speed I honest to god feel you two are talking in slow motion
So many great points, as usual! Nice video guys--love the shirt Kelly!
Flaws are one of the most interesting aspects of any character!! It's important to make sure you're not letting them be too disruptive, but they're a great way to shake things up and introduce difficult situations
I really do love this channel. Your so much more casually honest with the game, and what you should expect.
I DMed my first group session yesterday, and it was terrifying at first. However, the work I had put in to developing the NPCs and the adventure itself meant that the players really engaged with it and got into character, and we all had a smashing time. I've been playing for about three years now, and running my own game has been one of the most rewarding experiences I've had so far.
another great vid guys. and good tip on inspiration...and the dreaded, "it's what my character would do" line.
Great advice! I would add a couple more tips from my experience. 1) Let Role Play Trump the Dice: when making deception, persuasion, or intimidation checks I will ask the player what their characters say and if they do a good job I will give them advantage on the roll or even hand-wave the roll entirely. Many people don't role play because they feel intimidated or inadequate. This really helps build their confidence and it helps to mitigate bad rolls. Oh, and I never punish bad role play... ever. 2) Hidden Information: to get the players to start interacting with each other I will use secret info. I will pull them aside to whisper or text them under the table what they saw or heard with their perception or insight checks. This is especially powerful if its because of a passive check. Then it is up to the player how and when to share what they know.
My players love to pick flaws like “loves food” and “honorable to a fault” lol. They usually end up discovering flaws during the campaign.
Back story can offer missions for sessions when all the players can't attend. It pauses the campaign with fun relevant stuff. Foils/personal grudges/etc. shouldn't get completely resolved, so they become a recurring event. Mix up which chars get the focus.
Your videos are always so helpful. Especially for me, a first time DM running a campaign with first time players. I find myself wishing they’d get into character a bit more and I think these tips will make a huge difference. Keep it up, Dudes!
I love watching you guys! Ive been the designated DM for our group for the past three years and I have learned so much from you guys. Thank you for your inspiration and vast wealth of knowledge guys!
This was a very helpful video, guys! I have this problem at my table... My players are long time players, but I often feel the need to move them towards role playing, or they'll just hunt and kill every enemy-like thing that appears in the way.
I've been talking to them a lot about our expectations on this current campaign and the talking is helping, but I really needed these practical advices to improve the RP on my table.
Thanks a lot! Yours is my favorite rpg TH-cam channel!
Guys, I just want to say a huge "thank you". I've literally been sitting texting my players while watching this as ideas has been springing to mind. So good.
I've been setting up a home game with a few friends who are interested in trying the game for the first time. Been binging your tips videos and they're extremely helpful, thanks guys!
This was an excellent episode. Added concrete examples to a sometimes intimidating and hard-to-pin down practice.
Really helpful. I've got my first DM session this coming weekend. My friends are all pretty up for a laugh but I was struggling for ideas on how to make this immersive. Great job guys and great channel
Love this video! And the channel! The way you lay out situations and how we as players can better role play helps a great deal! Thanks guys, keep up the great work
I've been needing this video for sooo long. Thank youu!!
One of my favorite moments is when two of my players were arguing about the ideologies of their respective home countries in character. That feels so good, that they took the time to learn about their settings and to internalize those ideals into their characters
I've been really enjoying your guys's content! Such great advice for both players and DMs and done really nicely and helpfully.
Thank you, Dungeon Dudes, for this video! RP is so important.
In the game I am playing, I am banished from my home, and I am seeking to restore my name. The DM keeps finding my people (who hate me) in places where we go, and I have to get my party to buy supplies for me. Slowly, behaviors are changing as our fame grows... I appreciate this as someone who enjoys the story aspect of the RPG. I am learning so much from you!
thank you so much for these videos. this one was just what I needed, as my party struggles with rp-ing because they're all very shy. I can't wait to put these tips to the test next session!
Dungeon Dudes!!! I know it was only a week but it felt a lot longer. Can’t wait to dive into this.
at my school we where playing our first session of dnd hosted by one of the teachers (its a weird school) and I had made a cowardly young human bard who is obsessed with folk tales and stories of hero's he wishes to be like them and is brave by linking everything to a story and reminding himself of them. I practiced speaking with a stammer and learned a bunch of dnd stories and had the dm write/steal me some folk stories and songs from the setting he was running.
so when I rolled up to the first session and started roleplaying my character one of my friends started playing along after a while which made me really happy.
Some really great ideas that I’m totally going to use for the campaign we’ve just started!
Thank you guys, keep up the good work! these tips are awesome and have been a great help building my campaign, world, characters and describing the world which I have built, I'm playing my first ever game and stepping into the role of DM on my very first game tomorrow and all your videos have been a great help with the whole process, thank you and best of luck in the future.
Good luck with the game! Hope it’s an awesome time for all involved!
Man youe guys videos are so helpful honestly have learned so much from stumbling across 5 various ones. Have now subbed and will check out some of your tabletop sessions
Thank you 😊 hope you enjoy it all!
There are many options but here is my POV. It is long as always because I am an old guy and we never speak with brevity. I hope it helps but if it does ‘t - no refunds.
Give permission to both role play and not if they don’t want to. Be clear that you like it and they will to. But no one expects you to be a genius writer, actor or stand up comedian. No one will hate on a player for trying to RP and you expect them to not be great at it if you do. After all you do it a lot and trying and having fun with it is all that they need to do. Just have fun. You see people like to be invited but hate being demanded.
An tangential point is do tell them if the do try you will help them do a fun job of it. Things like RPing a minority person or a lady also feel off to people that are not those things and make sure when you are reviewing characters that you give help and if you have a person of that type (or near enough) that they can always get feedback if they want it to RP that character. This minimizes possible friction and a meta story of all of us against the story.
Next, consider “Instant inspiration”. If they don’t have a skill and want to do something in a clutch if they describe it better from the way there character can see it then give instant advantage. This can lead so some excellent moments. It does not break the game they likely are not good at it and advantage may actually make an major difference.
Next, at the beginning when they are setting up a character you need some basics (as you said) but the reason people try to have no weaknesses is so the dm does not use them against them. Before you talk about weaknesses remind them that they are going to be okay with almost any personal weakness because they have a group to cover them. And that you will disallow any weaknesses that is debilitating. The key here is you as DM always are on the PC’s side make sure they know that. People (especially tactical players) fear weakness and try to move away from it. They want to have a fear of water - cool you say but your character can swim poorly and float “well enough”. And make it clear that they can help each other in role playing and not just combat. Give examples and do yourself a favor - write it down.
Inspiration (list) also works great just think about what you want to reward for and you should let the players nominate when the OTHER player gets is and then you just say yes or no.
1) Make Half the players laugh or one/two player cry about your in character speech or character defining action
2) do something that supports any of your character points
... you get the idea. Use them or loose them as always but having a list makes it concrete and just remind them these are examples. The fun thing is by letting the group nominate the group mind will remember what you like (aka the inspiration list) and takes that off the DM’s todo list.
Lastly. Just cause the players don’t “want to” does not mean they won’t. And give them many second chances to do so by asking them for *their character* What and how does your player say that? How do you approach the Princess? Even the currently iconic how to you dispatch the dragon?
Thanks for reading and have fun
(FYI Dead family is almost never a weakness blocker. Between extended family and raise dead - family always is an issue. 😈)
can I play in one of your games?
My2Cents Thanks and I wish you much fun rping with your friends.
Thanks for another great video guys. I am a new DM and using what I learn from you has helped a lot.
One thing I do as a DM for promoting roleplaying is give out an XP bonus. At the end of every session all players and I vote for the best roleplayer, and players are not allowed to vote for themselves. The character with the most votes gets an XP bonus. (Currently 100 XP per level, but I'm still figuring out what the best value is in 5e.)
This worked fine in an earlier 3e campaign - the bonus was fairly evenly distributed in the long run, since all players had their moments. Rcently the first vote of my new 5e campaign (with 14-15 year old players on their first or second D&D campaign) took place. It's too early to tell whether it will work as well as in the earlier campaign, but I have hopes that it does.
Really wonderful content here. I'm looking forward to using it in my next campaign!
The creating bonds between characters is something that is a major component in other types of rpgs, particularly pbta games. They are a literal game mechanic. I think they are really cool and should be included in all rpgs
The advice is good, but the guys essentially invented on DnD - Fatе Core and PbtA
Speaking as someone who came from a bad family, many of us find a new 'family' among friends. Its that sort of bond that connects everyone from soldiers in an army, to members of a gang, to members of a cult, to addicts, to the homelesss, to street kids & to the other side of those experiences to mental health groups, a community of sobriety, etc. Family is something most people want to have, but many of us are not that lucky but you can certainly use that as a great character origin.
Lead by example if you as the DM Role play all NPCs as though they are all fully formed characters. players will often follow that lead.
If you talk as the NPCs in the first person, then PC's will often follow.
This video was great and I felt great for new D&D players and new DMs👍🏼👍🏼💯...I RP with voice acting and use improvs to interact with players at the table. I’ve had acting in my past and D&D is my way to still enjoy this favorite pastime of mine👍🏼👍🏼😎💯
Hey, I watch your videos about the top 5 underrated cantrips too, but this felt like a much more useful video than that sort. Thanks much Dungeon Dudes, hope to see you discuss this sort of esoteric material more!
Thank you! Our "spells" videos are very popular, but we really enjoy covering DM advice and roleplaying tips in addition to mechanics and character building. A nice balance is our goal!
Great video guys! Lots of useful info for any rpg here. Two points really stood out to me. First, having a character with flaws. Not only does this add personality, it gives the character someplace to GO later on. They can confront those flaws, or perhaps give in to them, making the player feel his toon had a nice arc. 2nd, I really like having an actual physical thing to give out when you award inspiration. One game I ran (7th Sea and drama dice, but nearly the exact same idea as D&D inspiration) I went to the candy store and found the lil chocolates that are wrapped up in gold foil so they look like ancient coins. Flavorful AND flavorful.
25:37 TOKENS! Totally biased opinion here obviously but I think giving out inspiration tokens is a wonderful way to encourage and reward players. So glad to see you mention it.
That's what I do at my table. Players use their tokens to re-roll
@@eave01 Right on!
I think this one got past me. I remedied that and watched! Great stuff as always and Like button clicked now! ;-) Awesome job Dudes!
Hey, guys. Another great vid! Love the shirt. I've been wanting to get into your streaming campaign, but don't really have the opportunity. Have you thought about taking the audio and making a podcast? I could definitely listen to that on commutes and during the workday.
My friends and I have been playing for over 30 years. We live far apart and play online in Fantasy Grounds for each session but we RP between sessions on Discord. During this between time we fill in a lot of the space between the characters and their backstories and when we hit the “table” we know each other as characters beyond what has happened at the table. As a result, when we’re in session we’re thinking in character which creates some really interesting moments.
Lots of goods tips I’m going to use, I currently have a party of first timers. They love the game, they love being creative now I want to bring more role play into it so they really get a feel for what dnd can be. This video helps a lot with my approach thank you
Arguably this was your best/most important and helpful video yet (aside from Session Zero). Well done!
One of my favourite things that my DM has ever done was this:
I had my noble human paladin get into a random relationship with a general store owner (I flirted my way into some good discounts) and, several sessions later, he ended up getting kidnapped by some slave traders. We ended up using my nobility to trick the slave traders into giving him back to us. It was one of the most intense sessions of DND I've ever had.
In my country there are little packs of chocolate milk called "Alex". They cost about 50 cents and are very well liked by basically everyone because they taste good and cause nostalgia because it is also the go-to-drink for schoolkids.
What I started doing was I bought a 20 pack of those, put them in the refridgerator and whenever I felt like there was good roleplaying, they got one "Alex" instead of inspiration. The effekt was exactly the same, but instead of just being a roll with advantage they get a pack of chocolate milk on top. Which caused WAY more envy by other players than just getting the roll would do.
It worked out not just good, but incredible. My players liked it so much that they quickly offered to do a little "rotation" on who is next to buy a 20-pack. I can only encourage you guys to find something similar that is not expensive but everyone in your group likes.
Thanks guys. I love the video.
Love your content!
I use the idea of handing out "tokens" for inspiration, with cool looking dice that the players get to roll in addition to their roll for the advantage, turning it back in when they have used the inspiration.
I need that shirt I love it
Great video! Please make another video with tips for Players on how to roleplay!
I was running a clue-like adventure where the pces awake in the manor with no idea how they got there, and another character dead on the ground nearby. Once they had time to move around an look at the room, and they start asking each other things. I would have them each pick cards (five to seven) with each card giving info to them first on their character traits/personality, but also on history an reasons or issues they had (not all of these were for their character), and the last card was sealed till later on , an would be opened to show what they would remember had happened before they awoke. This was so interesting seeing them rp an use those character traits, but also seeing the new players actually learn how to develop their characters even more from such a experience as they now can use cards to keep track of things. It can also get players our of meta gaming as they have concrete points of what they know via the cards that they can look back to, instead of trying to figure out if what they know is character or player knowledge.
Give inspiration tokens often, for acting out your weaknesses, character, etc. You guys invented Fate Core.
Thanks guys. Good stuff as always. My lady's solo campaign is specifically to get her working those imagination muscles.
I had my first session DMing a couple weeks ago, and it went *super* well, which was all the more gratifying considering we were all a bunch of noobs. One interesting thing though was everyone did a good job roleplaying once we all got past those first few minutes of jitters, but only two of my players had backstories; out of the other three, two of them made their characters but had no idea how to go about making a backstory beyond their background (both of them chose Haunted One from Curse of Strahd, lol) and the third didn't have access to the books and wasn't sure it they were going to play beyond the first session anyway, so I built a character with two different variants for them to pick from before the session started, and they ended up really getting into it! No clue yet when our next session will be, but everyone's looking forward to it when it comes.
I'm a First Time DM. Have been playing in a game for about 9 months with a mate who DMs me and a small group of friends (his girlfriend, his brother, me and two others), who is now also one of my players. He helps me out at the table a bit because my other players (group of friends from work) are a bit new to D&D (two were complete virgins when we started) and the one who wasn't is quite shy, though really starting to become more confident.
I've been trying to encourage more roleplay and honestly this video has helped me a lot with some ideas going forward! So thanks guys!
Tonight they were heading into what they knew was going to be their first proper BBEG encounter to level them up to Level 3 (I'm doing milestones) and on the walk down the long stairway, my Bard (DM Mate) randomly struck up a conversation with our Barbarian about his life (I have kept their backstories secret from each other OOC) and it turned into a half-hour long session of them just roleplaying and telling each other about their lives - "because hey, they may well be about to end!" It was honestly so beautiful to watch. I barely said a word for the entire duration.
I might just be really lucky but my players are all really strong roleplayers, it's super nice to see even the relatively weaker take on a character. One that I've known for years was never a particularly strong one, but this campaign has really proven how much he's grown and improved, they've had really emotional discussions of his dead brother and subsequent pact with an archfey to save his own life
Thanks for the tips
I have recently employed a homebrew rule to encourage some role-playing called "Campfire Stories". Basically when the party takes a long rest, I ask the party if they'd rather do a random encounter or have one player chosen at random answer a question concerning their character which can result in bonuses for the next day
@18:35 a very good point. I find myself playing the cliche orphan often and had this pointed out to me. My newest character has strong ties to an adoptive family and a nation to which he served as a navy shipwright for nearly 50yrs before being called upon by his faith
Something I like is the idea of giving players experience points for good roleplay. Of course not all the time, but in instances where they really did a great job. Saw this in the webcomic Darth and Droids and hope to be able to use it with my players.
I believe in the idea of leading by example. As a DM, I want to encourage my players to roleplay, so I roleplay all the interactions and provide cool descriptions of what happens during battle to make it a little more immersive than just rolling dice. And both my players love it.
I also did the "How do you want to do this" thing for the final blow of every battle, and it was another thing they seemed to really love. I'm pretty sure I'm not giving them the most honest introduction to D&D 5E, but I sure am giving them what I'd consider a fun and enjoyable introduction to the game.
One of the biggest problems I have while playing is making the "right" choices in a session. Any time I want to do something, my DM responds with "You wanna do what?!" Indicating that my choices are illogical and wrong.
Ex. I was playing a rogue and we needed to get an important artifact. Obviously the tower was guarded so I told the DM I wanted to stealth so I can sneak in. His answer:
"There's five guards blocking the door. You want to stealth in front of them?!"
So I asked him if I can go around and sneak in through a window.
"The walls are bare and there's nothing to climb. What else?"
All the while, the more experienced players were snickering at me. At this point I learned that despite being told there are no right or wrong answers, games like these prove otherwise. I couldn't attack without starting a fight, I couldn't sneak in, couldn't figure out anything.
That doesn't always mean it's wrong. They might just be trying to confirm that's what you're doing
Your table sounds really disrespectful. Other players shouldn’t be laughing at how you want to do things, and the DM shouldn’t shut down all of your ideas. No dnd>bad dnd, so maybe this one should be left behind.
Re 11:20 When you brought that up I envisioned Malak (the thief from Conan the Destroyer) plunging his dagger into the dead body of Dagoth.
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In regards to Inspiration, a DM friend of mine gives it out often but instead of players having advantage with it he gives it out similar to bardic inspiration. But instead of just having a dice based on level, his players get to hold onto them and they stack up. Starting at a d4 and increasing up to a d12, once used the inspiration is gone but it allows him to encourage lots of role playing and players can use it for a big role that doesn't go their way even if they already had advantage on it.
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things worth noting:
If your character is motivated by revenge, it does make sense to make it the ending stage of the game if that's what makes sense. if the enemy is a big enough threat, it's completely fine. eg, conan the barbarian would kinda suck if thulsa doom died in the first or second act.
Flaws create chaos. this is a good thing in D&D, and makes for more fun. it's more fun to struggle against your flaws than it is to win forever with your good traits. sometimes flaws are there to be conquered. the only flaw I really wouldn't recommend is mute. kinda sucks the fun out of things having a character that can't really communicate. that said, it worked in the one game where it came up (they were playing a pilot. hilarity ensued. it was a firefly game.)
I've done that before made decisions. I wouldn't make myself but it just made sense for the character I was playing at the time. Wasn't happy about it but I was the role who chose the role
Hey Dungeon Dudes! Just wanted to say, first off, I love your show and this topic in particular. I am a DM that absolutely loves role playing.
And I utilize the idea of actually exploring character story in game. Question for you though. When you said to try and tackle these in the early levels, how do you keep other characters engaged as the entire party is exploring the character arc of only one or two players. Because I would love to do this for each character, but I tend to wind up with games of 5 or 6 players and am worried that while we go and explore the warlocks story arc and how he came to power, the ranger is just going along while he is wondering what is happening back home. What are your thoughts?
IMO the key to have challenges be tailored to things the primary PC is bad at but the other characters are good at. So in your example have the warlocks arc require tracking someone or something, or require sneaking through somewhere, or have it filled with traps. This explains why the warlock couldn't deal with their arc before hand, and it reinforces to the party how they all need each other, plus it helps keep the other players involved even if they might not be that interested in the exposition/lore surrounding the plot. Plus if you can make the characters arcs be intertwined in someway. Maybe the warlock's patron can demand he go do something in the ranger's home turf?
Another aspect is in combat. Lots of people are shy about RP outside of it but nearly everyone plays for the combat.
So when they have epic moments, encourage them to describe how their characters pull those off.
It's a classic line from Matt Mercer that can mean so much:
How do you wanna do this?
They'll form their characters over time doing this, even if they don't realize. Then encourage them to retell and embellish the tales back in town to wow or intimidate the commoners.
And that's your in!
Haha. I posted the above as the video was playing and you guys practically said it word for word. Nice!
Adding to the story is the best part of the game for me.
Deam this video help me so much thanks btw video is exactly 30 minutes thumbs up
I like the Dungeon Dudes emphasizing near the end of rewarding points for role playing different aspects of a given character. This is often over looked in games I have played in the past by having too narrow of a focus of earning EXP by hacking and slashing only. This in my opinion reinforces the murder-hobo syndrome and encourages that behavior. And keeps role playing to a very minor part of the games as game sessions develop over time.
Great video! Wishing cool RP moments to everyone who reads this
Honestly, there’s no way to control this, but 80% of PC role playing has to do with planning and role playing by the DM. I use voice acting, music, pictures, images, physical or vocal mannerisms and quirks, and I plan my adventures to put them in uncomfortable or intense situations, or comment on their characters as NPCs. If they don’t talk much, an inn keepe might say in a gruff voice, “this guy doesn’t seem to talk much, eh?” as he points to the PC with his thumb. I also heavily describe the environments, enemies, NPCs.
I had a player who wouldn’t talk in first person, so he agreed to make his character talk in a 3rd person.
I ran LMoP with new players, and I wrote personalized letters to each character by the patron, left a few lines open in the middle so during character set up, they could write in a funny story that links them to the patron. Then I had them immediately meet a pushy, rude stable master, who also sells health potions - this way they interact with an NPC and each other, also barter as their character. Not to mention a smooth Pc intro.
I used those letters I found on reddit too, coupled with the stable master. I was pretty amazed at the reactions I got, everyone was instantly on board.
NubiS I saw those too and liked them, but I did mine from scratch with a little more depth. Something I recently tried with a new group was leaving 4-5 lines of space in the middle of the letter, it reads “Remember when...” and I have the players write in a custom memory with Gundren or Sildar, to help link them to their patrons. The players loved it, and when they met Sildar, the one who knew Sildar (and had not been comfortable with RPing much before) immediately jumped into character RP and chatted with Sildar all the way to Phandalin - or at least until they are confronted by a small group of Redbrands outside the town, led by an eccentric squad leader who’s trying to extort money from travelers entering the city (he mentions the recent lack of travelers - acting unaware of the Goblins up the road). This eccentric squad leader turns out to be Vyerith (the doppelgänger and spy for the black spider); if Glassstaff’s desk is investigated well by the party, they can find in Glassstaff’s journal an entry about this eccentric squad leader, suspicion of him and his odd spyish behavior, and the decision to post him on the road leading into Phandalin to separate him from his work in his hideout; they can find out about Vyerith if they catch him in Cragmaw Castle; or really anywhere I decide to put Vyerith to spy on them and he’s caught (usually with perception, capture, or death).
Just some more ideas.
Hey guys, like the channel a lot. I was wondering if you have maybe thought about a video that helps players struggling with the RP aspect of multi-classing? What are ways you justify your character taking a dip for weapon or armor proficiency, spells or abilities while staying true to your RP?
I've recently created a variant human noble Hexblade Warlock. I know that doesn't sound intriguing. But the thing is, his family are all (excluding him) Eldritch Knights. His pact with a family heirloom longsword allowed him to convince most of his family with numerous Deception checks that he was just like them (Bonus feat was Magic Initiate (Wizard)) and so he just persuaded them to think he just didn't have the strength to wear the Heavy Family armor. His older sister/heir of the family was the only one not fooled by his deception but went along with it in order to keep the family from being shamed...The character is still at level one, has just struck out on his own after coming of age and is on the road with his sword, a chain shirt (a final gift from his family) and is waiting for a game to join...
Going the "Your X was kidnapped, oh no!!!" Route can work but it has to be handled very carefully.
Doing it *badly* or with the wrong players is a surefire way to end up with a party of unattached orphans