Didn't believe you until I checked your channel. Hey, Shawn, I really hope you're doing well. The second I saw you I knew you were innocent. Don't know how or why, I just saw you and said to myself "there's no way he did it." Maybe it's my dad's instincts (he was a cop for 23 years) he passed on to me? Don't know. You are innocent.
@@absolutnadia That's absolutely not true at all. I didn't think he was guilty, and hearing his story and explanation further proved it for me. The connections linking him to the crime were circumstantial at best. Stop being an ass.
Keep collabing with her man. You guys did great together. Also, would love to see a short film directed by you based on this genre. You've given us tons of insight on true crimes. Would love to see how creative you could get with a story of your own. Glad to see you back man.
Amazing video! Nice to have your dark content back in my subscription feed. Thank you and Ready to Glare for making this video☀️ hope you collab more in the future!
The court of public opinion is nothing but emotion and Buzz words that other people have heard. It's never logical, very rarely are there any facts, a lot of time it's just anger, outrage, and useless venting. The court of public opinion is what drove lynch mobs.
People don't care! They Love to gossip, lie, condemn others and join in on the "fun". Try to force things into a certain direction.. when confronted with reality and facts, never do they backpedal, man up and apologize. Then next thing happens and they do it over again..
This broke my heart. This is a story of mental illness in every capacity. This is why we need to be open about mental health. Talk about mental illness with your kids, friends and family. We can be a part of the solution. This hurt so much to watch, the work and passion behind the project is amazing and moving, but the story is so painful
I feel so bad for Shawn. This ruined his life in more ways than one. He didn.t do it, but people will ALWAYS blame him for it despite if the truth is slapped into their faces.
The solution died in the 80's when Reagan defunded the mental health system, subsequently releasing thousands of now homeless mentally ill onto the streets and leaving nobody a place to turn to for help.
I feel fortunate to be living in Canada where mental health is taken a bit more seriously, and there’s talk about moving mental health care into our universal heath care, which I’m in full support of. It’s one thing though for a government to be for something, it’s another for the population to be for something. Shawn in this story may have done some shady things, but if he had the proper skills to deal with his mental health he probably would’ve been able to help in a more constructive way. Shawn deserves our support through mental illness, not to be blamed for a murder he had no part in.
I don't see mental health as an issue for Shawn despite everyone saying so. I saw as much of him as all you folks and do not see any instability. At most, he made a couple reckless choices. Obviously, in hindsight, Shawn had every reason to be concerned. Which ultimately does not indicate so-called mental health issues. p.s. They reason I can't say an assumption of Shawn's insanity is completely unfounded is due to the one-eye patch photo. It's an effective image! hahaha
When she mentioned she was going to hang out with Shawn despite acting like she didn't want anything to do with him, that's when I knew there was way more to the story.
I don’t think it’s necessarily the media’s fault, I think people should be more willing listen to different sides of the story and not jump to conclusions too quickly, especially not based solely on social media posts.
Mariana .N.M yeah definitely, but even Rob said his info painted the picture of a mentally ill person from the movies (but im pretty sure that was a conscious attempt for the sake of the narrative). The issue of portraying differences in media is pretty serious and you can even sue the media and force an apology if you believe a certain condition is being misrepresented or portrayed in a negative light. Don’t get me wrong though, I don’t expect the “justice for Natalie” Facebook page with a bible quote on top to be the most tolerant bunch of individuals so most of the blame would be on them (but the predisposition to these negative portrayals plays a significant role in how people respond to these kind of situations as well).
Mariana .N.M I agree it’s not only on different forms of media to stop this but I do think there’s some people who won’t see beyond what they see on tv. The good guy never seems bad on face because it’s easier but when people look at this they see a good guy will act confident and the bad guy is mentally disturbed.
John McJohnson well I could go into the details of what mental illness means and how it impacts people but the basic goal is exactly the opposite of what you suggest; the desired outcome is to help the individual integrate back into the society and minimise the problems that their illness can cause and also the problems that discrimination and stigma can cause for them as well. There are many forms of treatment available now that can control the symptoms of a majority of cases, and in the cases where treatment isn’t working they’re kept at hospitals where they undergo rehabilitation. Integrating back into society in a healthy way can help with many of the symptoms of mental illness; it can even be just as effective as therapy. So obviously my personal suggestion is to help these individuals become a part of society again and reduce the burden of stigma and discrimination, and if feeling legitimately threatened notifying the authorities just like you would for any other person.
@@frances9975 Not her first language? Maybe you should learn something about a person before you actually post. She was born and lived in Colorado, she worked for a far left leaning news organisation call Boulder Daily and yes English was her first language. Jesus what is it with people like you always trying to make up excuses for journalists who are just plain stupid, dont listen to journalists, they bend, twist or break the truth as it fits them and they are all dumbasses.
@@frances9975 I mean if English actually WASN'T her first language, working for a news company in an English speaking country is not a wise move ehh? :) either way sounds like it isn't the case. She just isn't good at asking questions?
Shawn and I knew each other through Starbucks. I was a barista and he basically lived at Starbucks. I got in trouble for saying it would be fine for him to stay the night in our parking lot when he had no money for gas. I would frequently make him free drinks and I gave him over $100 in the time that I knew him. If youre reading this, Shawn, I hope life turns around for you now. I'm sorry that you had been banned from our store when you just needed a place to go and feel safe.
It's s business establishment. They can't have customers hanging out all day, especially ones with mental problems and sleeping there all night. WTF! Not all the patrons would appreciate that.
Maybe I'm reading into it a bit - but between the "if i die, blame Shawn" text and her arranging her own murder, it almost seemed as if she was purposely trying to frame Shawn.....
There are people who are depressed and suicidal but at the same time very manipulative. I understand that having a man who looks dodgy follow you around is scary however if she did post an add on Craigslist about finding a hit man I personally think she might've used Shawn as the fallback incase things go south-or north if she really wanted to die-, because who else would people blame other than the creepy mentally challenged stalker right? I'm sure if she did post that ad then she never wanted anyone else from her circle to know. It is easier entertain the idea that she was killed by the creepy stalker rather than the idea that the victim posted an ad on Craigslist about finding a hit man. Just my thoughts
It sounds like Natalie was planning to blame it on Shawn as she prepared the event. "If I am found dead, it was him" makes that clear. Natalie was hoping to end two lives. What makes it worse is that Shawn seemed like the only one to even acknowledge Natalie's suicidal tendencies, let alone care about them. The real culprit is not the one that shot, but the ones that drove her to ask to be shot. Shawn already pointed to her family, and right now I trust him.
@Marlon Davis i agree drugs make you feel hopeless and that guy should have gotten her help instead of helping her make the worst decision of her life. Maybe she was truly scared of Shawn and thought he might. I didn't think setting him up. Sadly it just looked that way in the end.
@@fvckoff2698 that is exactly what I think also! It’s really sad and unfortunate and I absolutely agree with you about him possibly understanding what she was dealing with. This is an excellent example of not taking everything at face value and how the whole “mob mentality” thing has consequences that sometimes can not be undone, regardless if the person(s) are innocent...
Shawn was and is a completely innocent man in all of this. He may have been proven innocent, but his life is still hard and he is still actively seeking help. It is one of the hardest things to be autistic and homeless with a shit family and becoming a person of interest in a murder case. #justiceforshawn
This is odd, her twin sister alicia also went missing 2 years later in 2019, apparently was involved in pursuit and was found at a hotel in anothet state where she said she was "rescued from a bad situation". Edit/update - also found article from 2019 where father ted was arrested and placed in jail for possession and running from police, threatening to throw kids out of vehicle if police didn't back off. Maybe that was same event for dad and daughter. Seems whole family has substance use and legal issues and no doubt all parties have trauma from their loss.
What's even more saddening is that could have been a cause of the event with Natalie, just strictly due to grief alone... Depression is (sadly it seems) a key to a slowing burning downward spiral into insanity if not vented or delt with properly. We lose more to depression than cancer these days it seems...
I know her father Ted. He’s a con man, a thief and an all around piece of human garbage. Everything he says is a lie and a con. I’m very confident Ted was involved. Probably for money.
@@CaspergerTheAwkwardGhost I doubt he was involved in her death but I bet that her depression substance abuse bad decision making and suicidal thoughts were because of her shit home life.
I can see how Shawn having aspergers could cause him to stalk a woman and think he was just helping or trying to keep her safe. I can still see why she would have been scared, but this dude's brain also doesn't understand what appropriate boundaries are, and it isn't his fault. I know from personal experience that it is well nigh impossible to get an evaluation or treatment for ASD as an adult. Just tragic all around.
aspergers doesnt make you a stalker..? i sympathise with him for being falsely accused of the crime but we cant just let him off on a crime because of that. im autistic (and know a lot of others who are) and sure it can make your boundaries dodgy but we cant pretend that absolves him of being a stalker.
Uhh she led him on guys. Notice how he said messenger was the cause of him being there. He wouldn’t of been there if she didn’t want him there, taking advantage of him and his shecky. She used him for drugs. Super common these days.
But this video and her public posts try to paint him as a villain. Her private messages are a whole different story. Look into it. Alrjouht to do that you might have to put your prejudices aside and talk to someone who makes you uncomfortable.
I was wondering why he said that! I thought it was sarcasm about giving him panic attacks, brilliant observation! made me chuckle. I wish we got to see the cameraman/reporters reaction
Yay! A new episode. I just love your videos. Its sad that youtube always tries to demonetize this kind of content. Its important to stay aware of what can happen and that the stories of these people get told.
Great point. I started to think something was seriously wrong with me for being into this kind of stuff and Forensic Files but I have learned a ton about human behavior and I have NEVER rooted for the perpetrator of crimes. Except bank robbers who don't kill people. Bankers are the cause of damn near every social problem we have in life so when they are the victims, I am not sad. I do understand bank robberies terrify people so I guess I am not without some hypocrisy and I acknowledge that.
That is a terrible thing to take away from this! Trying to help is never wrong. You are not the one that needs to change. The people who harassed him all need to become better people. And from the shame they must feel, I imagine many of them will now try to be better. Being good is a challenge, but the better a person you are, the better people around you will want to be. That is the thing to take away from this.
I think it's sad how she said "if anything happens to me, he did it, shawn did it" especially if she was intending to take her own life. I understand what it's like to be suicidal and addicted to meth, but don't leave this world making people believe an innocent man was responsible. I hope she's in a better place and I hope Shawn can move on with his life.
I think it's ridiculous for you to jump to that conclusion. You have absolutely no proof of that other than a misguided opinion. She said that to her boyfriend in confidence likely because she was scared. Why was she scared, because she was being stalked. Have you ever been stocked? If you haven't you have no idea the terror that it brings. It ruins your life and destroy your sense of security completely so I think it's a logical conclusion to draw that she was actually in fear for her life from her stalker not that she was trying to frame him. Smh
@@sfletch3042 I have been stalked actually and sexually assaulted BUT would NEVER set up an innocent man. She KNEW she was going to kill herself, so her saying that was just to set the stage for him to be accused. Not only that but he was 'stalking' her because she told him She was suicidal and then kept playing on his emotions so he was trying to 'save her from herself' but he was being odd and weird about it, due to him having a different neurological set up. She was also on dope so I'm sure the 'government' and everyone else was out to get her too in her mind. Sorry not sorry to be so blunt but girls that act like her are literally why girls who are really raped/stalked/ and abused etc have such a hard time being believed and getting their Justice. So yea rip and all but that doesn't erase her shitty actions.
lol, I used to be very public when I went through my emo phase, and I noticed a lot of catfishes and older men and women, so I just up and deleted everything. It's kinda scary thinking what would have happened if I actually went out and met up with one of my "friends"
I don’t even have any social media in the first place. It’s situations like these that make me happy that my mom doesn’t let me have any social media at all.
My heart breaks for Shawn. My brother also has asperger's so I know how his good intentions can come across as awkward sometimes. Seeing Shawn defending himself from the media put me into a protective rage! If you're seeing this Shawn, you're incredibly strong for making it through the abuse and keeping your mind on the one important thing: Justice for Natalie. Stay strong, you've faced so many hardships and it's not fair. You seem like a really good guy despite all that and that's the mark of a quality person
Also infuriated me, watching as he told them to focus on Natalie and articulating for the to stop as they stressed him out. Antagonist do it to intentionally make some lose their cool. Shaun you did very well. In Arizona the young Hispanic kids sit at Carl Jr. Intentionally try get a rise out of someone, for fun, entertainment. One you adult, several actually but think one had 3 tables to choose from and sat right next to a women eating her lunch and reading. That young women turned on her video as the women did not want to sit next to her. She was trying to show bigotry. Like the video crew wanting to get someone loosing it, for entertainment not to save a life or respect Shaun’s states need for them to stop. It is harassment as well as sick abuse!
There are so many lessons to take from this but the simplest one is that there are 3 sides to every story. Your side, their side and the TRUTH. This girl was a mess. She manipulated the situation for attention. In the process destroying another person's reputation instead of getting help. Be careful what you share on social media. Not everyone needs to know everything.
Chlxox Xoxo natalie’s boyfriend supplied the dope she used and Shawn and him didn’t get along cuz Shawn is clean. They saw a “homeless crazy guy” and tried to blame it all on him. The stalking and everything.
He's so lucky he's not in prison. People have been falsely convicted with far less circumstantial "evidence". If the plan at first wasn't to set him up, it certainly was convenient with their past later on.
Another autistic person being painted as “dangerous “. As an autistic woman I can say that sometimes we have special interests we obsess over. Sometimes those special interests are people. Helping someone, fixing someone, loving someone. I’m so glad you were proven innocent and I really hope you are well shawn
As understandable as that is, it’s still scary having someone obsess over your wellbeing. Autistic or not. I’m sure she was still frightened by him regardless of his good intentions.
my brothers is the high Fuctioning autistic too and i feel the same way.for him he was always Obsessed with trucks.at 20 he still is.i really hate the autistic stereotypes they were so damaging for him when he was young
He didn’t seem like he did it from his interview, just like a dude who was tired of being harassed. I’m glad they found the guy who actually did it, no one deserves the “guilty until proven innocent” concept
I'm glad that Rob decided to make a video about Natalie. My sister was actually pretty good friends with her and her twin sister (not mentioned in the video so I won't say her name) back in middle school. She and her sister would stay over our house semi-frequently so it was heartbreaking to hear about what happened to her. She and my sister didn't talk much since she moved away from our state. But I'm still saddened to think about how much her sister and father must miss her. Both her and her sister were extremely nice and kind to me and my family, so it really is a tragedy that a young woman like her decided to have her life taken from her like it was. Thanks for making the video Rob. Its nice to hear some more info on the case about her.
Awww man so sad 😔 I hope they got some closure. Her being a twin hurts more I’m sure her sister felt her pain and probably feels like part of her is missing. Poor girl
Her father is human garbage and her grandmother is too. There’s nothing good going on behind closed doors in that family. I’m confident Ted was involved.
Aaliyah Essex from the evidence shown she was trying to frame Shaun. It might've been a suicide-in-the-form-of-a-hitman, but she still attempted (and almost successfully) framed it as Shaun murdering her
Aaliyah Essex she was barely innocent. Her bf and her conspired and blamed Shawn for stalking when the bf actually was the dope doctor Shawn was warning everyone about. Natalie was in some deep drug game. Barely innocent.
When i heard Ready to Glares voice i had to check i hadn't accidentally clicked on a different video lol! She made a fantastic addition to the video, you defo need to have her/her voice in more videos.
This feels so wierd, I used to watch your vids wayy back before I knew Natalie and her sister, we went to school together and I was so shocked/sad when I heard the news and now I’m seeing her on you page. It’s such a wierd feeling never thought I’d see somebody I’ve met/talked to and was a friend with on here, but I’m honored to have known her and to have been a part of her life even as briefly as it was. She was super sweet and special to all tht knew her. Stay safe!
@chicken nuggies I mean yes he is clearly innocent of the murder, but mental illness does not excuse the harassment and stalking. I know multiple people with varying degrees of Aspergers, and none of them would go so far as to drive hours when someone didn't ask or to sleep behind someone's work. It reminds me of the Brooklyn 99 quote- "cool motive, still murder". In this case, it would be "valid motive, still stalking". I am mentally ill, and I agree you cannot always control your behaviors, however mentally ill people still need to be held accountable. We cannot act like he is some perfect misunderstood hero. No he is not a murderer but he is still a creep, and that is what I am emphasizing, given that most of this comment section is people acting like he was her true hero and best friend. And frankly, I can't personally blame the media for assuming his guilt at first. I mean, you have a girl go missing and it turns out she was posting about a man stalking and harassing her? Obviously he's gonna be the first person the cops talk to. I do think it was fucked up for people to keep blaming him once he was cleared, don't get me wrong, but I do think it is natural that people assumed he had something to do with it given that he was literally stalking her and she said he was scaring her
I'm going back to school, I have a placement test tomorrow. The way Rob starts off each of his episodes with normalizing the possibility of these crimes happening to us. is the way I want my English essay to flow.
If it’s mentally exhausting you should’ve never made a fb in the first place , it’s social media you’re not suppose to take it seriously and if it’s mentally exhausting you were taking it too serious
I remember after Columbine, the media was hounding one of the girls. They were shoving their mic in her face as she sobbed. A bunch of other girls and I made a wall of ourselves to shelter her. I've hated them since that day.
All so very sad for everyone involved. The old adage “don’t air your dirty laundry” comes to mind when I think of social media platforms like Facebook, Instagram, etc and the fact some people post every minute of their life forgetting that they have essentially opened their door and invited complete strangers into their home and life. May your narration be a stark reminder of what can happen, and hope that people take heed and use the upmost caution in the future. 💻🦋
Shawn I could tell was uncomfortable but was polite and cooperative, I am saddened by the abuse he got, the media portrays mental illness only present in bad people which isn't true, with people jumping to the wrong conclusions about what happened with Natalie 🙄😔
Shawn probably could relate to Natalie, and felt a closeness with her. He was probably naive to how it made her feel and didn’t mean to come across as predatory or creepy. He seems lonely
Well when a woman makes it totally clear that she doesn't like your behavior you should stop. Once she expressed that to him he's no longer innocent and just not understanding how awkward it made you feel Drake she let him know she filed court documents to restrain him. He knew he just didn't stop because he was being compulsive and didn't want to stop.
AlienPrincess ATX no. She was sending him mixed signals and it was an emergency. If your friend asked you to leave them alone but you knew they were suicidal, would you?
Probably because she didn't like him. Maybe she wanted to throw the police off the trail of the suicide to spare her family and throw them on Shawn's trail to get him.
as someone pointed out in the replies under shawn's comment- it really does seem like she had some fantasy about being a murder victim, and needed a scapegoat to take the fall. i personally believe shawn was nothing more than an easy target here, with his mental illnesses and the sob stories she was always posting to paint him as a bad guy. •she actually reached out to shawn more than he did to her •she asked him to come to va and "save her and her friends," then cried and painted him as a stalker who followed her there. •she posted an ad on craigslist looking for someone to kill her, rather than just take her own life? •always posting about her "struggles" with him, but not her actual problems with substance abuse and suicidal thoughts that were far more prominent? sounds like she WANTED to be a murder victim to me; but that couldn't be done without victimizing shawn as well, if she didn't want anyone to find out that set it up herself.
I have a brother with the same disorder as Shawn, and yes I can see him doing what Shawn did if he was in the same position. He's a passionate guy and he's direct, and he wants to be left alone. I can understand his actions, I think if the public had known more about how people with Shawn's disorder think then he wouldn't have been accused like he was.
Same I have friends that look and behave just like him. They are the type that might look a little rough around the edges to other people, but are really sensitive with the most caring hearts for other people.
@M x I didn't say it was anyone's fault. My brother is mentally delayed in many ways, he could hardly be considered an adult despite being in his 20s because of his disorder. If you want to drum up drama about mental illness however you twist it to perceive it, pick someone else's comment. Mental illness alone does not alleviate someone of guilt. I absolutely agree. But what I am saying is that if Shawn is anything like my brother, he's a good man who can seem shady to the outside world because the world at large is incapable of understanding their way of thinking, but his intentions are good.
Shawn seems like nice guy, so polite and reasonable. I feel so bad for him. I struggled with depression and anxiety for years, so I really feel for him, I hope he is doing better now.
I understand that she might have actually been afraid of him and misunderstood him, but knowing that she was gonna soon end her own life, why would she put a target on Shawn? What a disgusting human being
Shawn was not a bad guy however in the mind of someone who has suicidal thoughts a person like him can push someone over the edge. Can you imagine a creepy guy following you, possibly rape and murder you? Even a normal person could become stressful and have paranoia. Maybe she wasn't a disgusting human being as you say maybe she had enough and blamed Shawn for pushing her over the edge, even though he only had good intentions. That could explain why she wanted to blame him after her death. Food for thought
@Hellbound Wolf420 just because someone is paranoid doesn't mean it's schizophrenia thinking you're being stalked by someone has nothing to do with schizophrenia it's when they get delusional and irrational that schizophrenia is obvious.. for example someone I know has a schizophrenic father who thinks the NFL is watching him and trying to "steal his ideas" which obviously sounds insane being stalked by someone especially if you're female is a logical fear
demonjmh Although some who have schizophrenia may have more “logical” delusions, I completely agree with you. This was a case where she had evidence and reason to have her beliefs. Her paranoia was justified, and this paranoia may have been worsened by her depression and negative mental state. His Aspergers may have presented in a way that was misunderstood and potentially further reinforced these beliefs
@Hellbound420 For someone to have schizophrenia, they need to be more than paranoid. Paranoia is just one of many symptoms of schizophrenia. Paranoia on it's own can make you have irrational reactions to situations, and make you believe things that are "irrational and insane." Calling someone who is paranoid schizophrenic is like calling someone who is having a down day bipolar. You should learn the difference between mental disorders and emotional problems that are brought by unforeseen circumstances in someone's life.
You know this really didn't go the way I was expecting. I really thought for a second the boyfriend who claimed "I have a loaded gun" carried out this murder and was going to try to pin it on the poor guy who had stalker-esk tendencies. This Lopez character appears out of literally nowhere and is thr executioner. What a wild ride. Really sad stuff.
i live less than 10 minutes away from broomfield and although i never knew natalie, i have many friends who did know her. she was a year or so older than me. it’s so sad that her life ended so soon. from what i’ve been told by my friends as well as what i’ve heard from her family and the media, she was an incredibly sweet girl. i hope she rests in peace. thank you for covering this case. 💗
I was 16 at the time, and I still remember this all over the local news. My parents became super protective of me and my brother as this literally happened in our relatively dense suburban community. It's extremely sad that this occurred so close to home and affected everyone in our community.
And he has plenty of texts showing she texted him back. Not as a lover but as a source because she wanted to kill herself. She was trying to blame it on him and not whoever really helped her do it. Smhw.
horrible take. just getting involved with someone means you're not allowed to distance yourself or complain about them down the road? the issue isnt her getting herself involved or whatever, it's whether or not she was telling the truth and what happened. like, if he really had been a stalker (tho he wasn't), she's allowed to "dramatize" him even if she'd gotten herself involved with him
lol shawn has proof that she would message him about wanting to die and he would try his best to help her and yet she would go and then turn around and try to make it seem like he was some stalker. Sounds exactly like multiple women I know who would do this often when they were younger. Its a way of getting a lot of attention. And thats clearly what she wanted. I hope wherever she is at now she has peace
These are actually pretty educational. These seriously strange videos give me plenty of material for my criminology studies. This one goes into the negative effects of the court of public opinion and how innocent people end up hurt by it.
I’m so sorry for Shawn. He was claimed guilty by so many people because of mental illness and a one sided story. It also shows how intolerant some people are of traits associated with autism.
I was friends with Natalie. She evens drew a few of my tattoos. She was such an amazing person. It breaks my heart to see this video up here. I guess sometimes stuff hits harder than people can think.
THANK YOU, Rob, for giving us an un-slanted view of this story. This is exactly why i don't Facebook or social media. Shawn was tried and convicted on the internet with absolutely NO proof!
This story is just a reminder that more and more people are careening into mental illness these days with not enough readily available resources to help them.
And where are their loved ones? Why are they not moving heaven & hell to help them? AFTER something happens to their person they wanna come forward & boo-hoo I'm so heartbroken. Yeah? Really? What did you do to help? Sorry didn't mean to word vomit on your comment.
i disagree. you are right about not enough resources, but in reality we pay taxes to hundreds of groups that advertise that they "help" but in reality, they are just going through the motions to get tax dollars. what i disagree with is even using the term "mentally ill" because i wasnt railroaded based on evidence, i was railroaded because the "mentally ill" label was used to discredit me, abuse me, ignore me, and so on.
@@fairladykd6734 Yeah that was my reaction at first, but I don't know, dysfunctional families are so cyclical and can pass down for generations from parent to child. And you know, it's a big cliche but people really don't value what they have till it's gone.
@@DOGGEDROMAN I'm not trying to dismiss your lived experience and, not knowing enough about your story, I wouldn't apply the label to you. But I have to ask, what else would you call it when a kid kills herself and another kid meets up with a complete stranger to kill them?
@@crownedpleb9747 dear royal plebian, we arent talking about kids, we are talking about adults. if someone kills theirself, it is called suicide. if they have a stranger do it, its called assisted suicide. this is pretty basic understanding of the english language.
KrispinWah Hm, I find it difficult to believe that a greedy corporation like TH-cam would be waging a personal war against Rob, who has undoubtedly generated them millions in ad revenue from his content over the years.
Nyan-Chan he has Asperger’s and it’s entirely possible he was trying to intervene with her attempt at suicide. It was perhaps misguided but that’s not the same as some infatuated stalker. Have a bit of compassion. He tried to save her, someone else killed her maybe put your outrage where it belongs.
Heather Mason To extend on that: people with aspergers (and autistic people in general) sometimes take things literally. My guess is that Natalie was having a suicidal episode and had threatened to kill herself multiple times (she probably said something along the lines of “im going to do it now”), and he took it at face value. What he did definitely wasn’t the best way to handle it, but when you look at it from his perspective, he was absolutely terrified that he might actually lose her.
Shawn is an amazing guy my gf has been in contact with him and she is trying to set up a support group and discussion group cause honestly Shawn is an amazingly intelligent caring guy and too many good people like shawn go unheard while people like Tana Mongeau are shoved in our face. Thank you Rob for this video. Rob and Shawn my Brothers, Keep Fighting the Good Fight.
I just wanted to comment how everyone wishes him well is weird. I have Aspergers AND someone was stalking me for more than a year. Aspergers doesnt equal stupid and even dogs, man even HORSES understand "NO" and "back off".
I would like to know the interactions between Natalie and Shawn to understand whether his actions were creepy or caring; but either way, I don’t think the media should be allowed to harass innocent people like they do. The media doesn’t care what’s morally right as long as they have a story. And I don’t think it’s hard to believe she would put a hit out on herself. Heck, I’ve had the thought to do that at times.
Shawn's Aspergers would have played a huge part in how he interacted with Natalie. I am in no way any type of expert on the condition. But I do know that those who have Aspergers are often incapable of reading social cues and understanding personal boundaries. So I have no doubt that Shawn believed he was doing good, but as he is likely unable to determine these aspects of human emotion, it is very likely his actions would have been perceived as "creepy".
Kealeyb as someone with Aspergers that is why I’d like to know the interactions because then I could figure out whether it was a misunderstanding or just creepy. There’s a big difference between not understanding something is stepping over the line, and doing it regardless. As someone who’s had interactions with extremely creepy older guys who aren’t on the spectrum I have somewhat of an insight into caring vs predatory behaviour. And I feel like he was overstepping boundaries he should have known about.
I can tell you about my interactions with Shawn working with him. Never met Natalie. But Shawn is the type of guy to give you his last dollar so you could buy a sandwich. Drive you to your house when his car is on empty. He’s a decent human who unfortunately was homeless at the time. I think it’s important to note that Shawn was the only person SOBER in this case. Natalie and her family were addicts. Her bf too. Shawn was the only person she CHOSE to be around that was a decent human.
@@hoppinginpuddles It's not that people like us are incapable of reading social ques. It's just that it doesn't come naturally to us. Unlike people without aspergers, we need to be taught social ques, and when to take things literally or not. I am one such person who has learnt to read all the social ques. Knowing when someone isn't interested in a conversation, or reading someone's emotions, to the small things like hand gestures. How did i do this? By paying attention to how people interact with one another. I started to implement that into my behaviour. At first it really felt like i was acting, but eventually it started to feel natural, and now i don't even have to think about it. With enough effort, you can learn to deal with mental disorders. For some, it just requires a bit of observation, and for others it requires drugs. I have add as well, but i have never had medications for it. I still can't work, but i have worked through the anger issues i have. The last time i was ever violent was in primary school, and i'm 21 now.
I remember hearing about this one at the time, it really is bizarre and the most overtly internet age crime. I love how well you captured the layers of uncertainty and how the internet distorts them! I'm enjoying your channel a lot, this one especially.
Though saddening, this was quite an interesting case, one that I have never heard about before, and one that definitely demonstrates the dangers of social media. Although I do enjoy when you touch on lesser known cases, I also like when you touch on more known cases, so I ask that you please touch on either the Manchester terror attack, the anniversary of which was only a few days ago, or the Port Arthur massacre. Keep up the good work Rob, see you soon.
Shawn insisting on having Natalie's disappearance and death solved immediately tipped me off that he was not involved in her murder. A person involved in the crime wouldn't insist that. They'd more than likely want people to move on from the crime all together if they aren't flaunting it, which Shawn definitely WASN'T. Regardless of if he were a "stalker" or not, it would make no sense for a murderer to demand for his crime to be investigated
As someone also diagnosed with aspergers, I feel sorry for Shawn, I would also be panicking mentally if I was in his shoes. He seemed to handle it quite well though, especially the part with the news and cameras. I would probably end up running away, and likely increasing people's suspicion in me, if I was in his shoes.
Thank you for staying respectful, I used to be friends with her freshman year of high school, even the people close too her still to this day are trying to make sense of it all for our own minds. And after reading some of the comments, I truly wanted to thank you.
Hey Rob, just leaving a comment to say I'm glad to see these videos making a comeback on the channel, I've missed you creeping me out for quite some time. Also, RIP to the young lady, such a waste.
Marcie F. Sadly, America has very little regulations on its media. Here in the UK a news agency would be fined millions if they did what the American media did to Shawn to someone here.
Hi Rob I'm Tracy, me and my partner are big fans of yours, we love your programmes, you have the perfect voice for it, you're not boring at all, we watch you every day!
What an incredibly sad story. I live near Broomfield and I remember when she went missing. I never heard what happened to her afterwards, though. It's so tragic that, not only was her life ended, but Shawn experienced such incredible harassment, too. You're a great storyteller, thank you for reporting on this.
Well there you go. It just goes to show that her so called “happiness” was nothing then just a mask. You can never know truly know a person. Even happy people can be the most two faced and conniving
Love your videos and your narration is haunting. I've been watching for sometime...usually to lull myself to sleep and into some rather interesting dreams, and just recently subscribed. I have to confess that in writing this comment I am also hoping that you would turn your attention to the case of Aubrey Dameron, a native woman from Arkansas who has been missing for over a year now. Her story seems to have received little if any attention. I assure you my flattering introduction is heartfelt as I truly love your channel, just looking for some help. Thank you.
Yesssssss! New Rob video 😆 I only discovered him a few weeks ago, I'm from Scotland and hadn't heard of him before. I subscribed after watching 1 video of WWYPTOTI, then proceeded to binge them, all day every day. I love all your content Rob, if you see this. Funny/weird/strange/unexplained phenomena, you absolutely cover all my bases. (Plus you're easy on both eyes and ears 😉) This is my favourite channel now, and I've recommended to everyone I know. 😊❤💛💚 Wrote my comment before watching the video, im now so glad im not on Facebook, its a deceiving world.
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I'm Shawn Schwartz. Am about to listen to your podcast thingy. I'll let you know anything you got wrong
Didn't believe you until I checked your channel. Hey, Shawn, I really hope you're doing well.
The second I saw you I knew you were innocent. Don't know how or why, I just saw you and said to myself "there's no way he did it." Maybe it's my dad's instincts (he was a cop for 23 years) he passed on to me? Don't know. You are innocent.
Hope youre doing ok, keep your chin up man
Hope you’re doing good, Man!
cheezkid26 stfu! You like everyone else thought he was guilty 🙄
@@absolutnadia That's absolutely not true at all. I didn't think he was guilty, and hearing his story and explanation further proved it for me. The connections linking him to the crime were circumstantial at best. Stop being an ass.
Special thanks and a chilling welcome to Ready to Glare who not only voiced Natalie’s parts but also wrote this script!
You're the shit Rob!! 🗿
Keep collabing with her man. You guys did great together. Also, would love to see a short film directed by you based on this genre. You've given us tons of insight on true crimes. Would love to see how creative you could get with a story of your own. Glad to see you back man.
Amazing video! Nice to have your dark content back in my subscription feed. Thank you and Ready to Glare for making this video☀️ hope you collab more in the future!
Yay! Two of my favorite TH-camrs ❤️
Hey Rob. Shawn Schwartz is actually in the comments right now under the username Shawn David. Maybe you should pin his comment?
The court of public opinion can be a disgusting thing.
Facebook is as disgusting as a venue as it gets!
Pitchfork and torch wielding outraged Karens
@@wchurchill419 Salem witch trials didn't have Facebook lol
That's Twitter in a nutshell.
The proper word you're looking for here is not "can be", its "is".
This story is exactly why people should ignore court of public opinion. You can ruin people's lives like that.
Great answer
The court of public opinion is nothing but emotion and Buzz words that other people have heard. It's never logical, very rarely are there any facts, a lot of time it's just anger, outrage, and useless venting. The court of public opinion is what drove lynch mobs.
BUT they never do.
Everybody LOVES a damn witch hunt.
People don't care! They Love to gossip, lie, condemn others and join in on the "fun". Try to force things into a certain direction.. when confronted with reality and facts, never do they backpedal, man up and apologize. Then next thing happens and they do it over again..
That's true. It just puts blinders on people and they keep looking at person X instead of going to finding who did it.
I'm so happy to hear Rob again. I love listening to cases like these, it's nice to have him back.
Yeah defo!😊
Agreed
100%
Word
Hell yea it is
This broke my heart. This is a story of mental illness in every capacity. This is why we need to be open about mental health. Talk about mental illness with your kids, friends and family. We can be a part of the solution. This hurt so much to watch, the work and passion behind the project is amazing and moving, but the story is so painful
I feel so bad for Shawn. This ruined his life in more ways than one. He didn.t do it, but people will ALWAYS blame him for it despite if the truth is slapped into their faces.
Pity most of society refuses to have that openness.
The solution died in the 80's when Reagan defunded the mental health system, subsequently releasing thousands of now homeless mentally ill onto the streets and leaving nobody a place to turn to for help.
I feel fortunate to be living in Canada where mental health is taken a bit more seriously, and there’s talk about moving mental health care into our universal heath care, which I’m in full support of. It’s one thing though for a government to be for something, it’s another for the population to be for something. Shawn in this story may have done some shady things, but if he had the proper skills to deal with his mental health he probably would’ve been able to help in a more constructive way. Shawn deserves our support through mental illness, not to be blamed for a murder he had no part in.
I don't see mental health as an issue for Shawn despite everyone saying so. I saw as much of him as all you folks and do not see any instability. At most, he made a couple reckless choices. Obviously, in hindsight, Shawn had every reason to be concerned. Which ultimately does not indicate so-called mental health issues. p.s. They reason I can't say an assumption of Shawn's insanity is completely unfounded is due to the one-eye patch photo. It's an effective image! hahaha
When she mentioned she was going to hang out with Shawn despite acting like she didn't want anything to do with him, that's when I knew there was way more to the story.
hey guys, the woman reading natalie's statuses is Ready To Glare! i was surprised to hear her voice
Chance Allen i love her content
I thought it was, but wasn't too sure. She's one of my favorites
i had to double check i wasn’t watching her videos lol!!! i knew that was her 💕
I knew i recognized that tone :p
I noticed her voice immediately 🥰🥰🥰
Poor Shawn, media really needs to stop portraying mental illness and differences as something only present in bad people
I don’t think it’s necessarily the media’s fault, I think people should be more willing listen to different sides of the story and not jump to conclusions too quickly, especially not based solely on social media posts.
Mariana .N.M yeah definitely, but even Rob said his info painted the picture of a mentally ill person from the movies (but im pretty sure that was a conscious attempt for the sake of the narrative). The issue of portraying differences in media is pretty serious and you can even sue the media and force an apology if you believe a certain condition is being misrepresented or portrayed in a negative light. Don’t get me wrong though, I don’t expect the “justice for Natalie” Facebook page with a bible quote on top to be the most tolerant bunch of individuals so most of the blame would be on them (but the predisposition to these negative portrayals plays a significant role in how people respond to these kind of situations as well).
Mariana .N.M I agree it’s not only on different forms of media to stop this but I do think there’s some people who won’t see beyond what they see on tv. The good guy never seems bad on face because it’s easier but when people look at this they see a good guy will act confident and the bad guy is mentally disturbed.
So is there a threshold where we just lock em up and throw away the keys??? Do you have a recommendation??
John McJohnson well I could go into the details of what mental illness means and how it impacts people but the basic goal is exactly the opposite of what you suggest; the desired outcome is to help the individual integrate back into the society and minimise the problems that their illness can cause and also the problems that discrimination and stigma can cause for them as well. There are many forms of treatment available now that can control the symptoms of a majority of cases, and in the cases where treatment isn’t working they’re kept at hospitals where they undergo rehabilitation. Integrating back into society in a healthy way can help with many of the symptoms of mental illness; it can even be just as effective as therapy. So obviously my personal suggestion is to help these individuals become a part of society again and reduce the burden of stigma and discrimination, and if feeling legitimately threatened notifying the authorities just like you would for any other person.
Reporter: "Why were you a suspect of Interest?"
Shawn: "I was not a suspect, I was a person of interest."
Wow does the reporter sound dumb. Lol
straight out of the mouth of dennis reynolds 😂
@@themischief420 lol
Maybe he suspected Shawn of being interesting, and it was actually a compliment?
and the reporters stayed that dumb. to this day, they are only interested in one side
@@commondirtbagz7130 lol. hey, you wouldnt happen to live in huntington beach, would you? the term "dirtbag" was a regional badge of honor there.
The return of Seriously Strange and the host with the most, The TH-cam Sensation, the one the only Mr Rob Gavagan!!!
😊👏
👍🏻👍🏻
Nah. He's probably back for like a week
Lorn just having fun, great show
🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Shawn being more well spoken than the reporter says a lot.
Not really. I am guessing that English isn’t her first language since she has an accent. That isn’t indicative of anything.
@@frances9975 Not her first language? Maybe you should learn something about a person before you actually post. She was born and lived in Colorado, she worked for a far left leaning news organisation call Boulder Daily and yes English was her first language. Jesus what is it with people like you always trying to make up excuses for journalists who are just plain stupid, dont listen to journalists, they bend, twist or break the truth as it fits them and they are all dumbasses.
@@frances9975 I mean if English actually WASN'T her first language, working for a news company in an English speaking country is not a wise move ehh? :) either way sounds like it isn't the case. She just isn't good at asking questions?
Frances I was unaware stupid was an accent lol
@CantOutRunADuck anymore lol
Shawn and I knew each other through Starbucks. I was a barista and he basically lived at Starbucks. I got in trouble for saying it would be fine for him to stay the night in our parking lot when he had no money for gas. I would frequently make him free drinks and I gave him over $100 in the time that I knew him. If youre reading this, Shawn, I hope life turns around for you now. I'm sorry that you had been banned from our store when you just needed a place to go and feel safe.
It's s business establishment. They can't have customers hanging out all day, especially ones with mental problems and sleeping there all night. WTF! Not all the patrons would appreciate that.
thecatatemyhomework I feel badly for you. Your parents did a less than stellar job raising you.
@@maggie5456 Have you got in touch with Shawn?
@@DanielApathy I have not
He’s commented in another thread.
Maybe I'm reading into it a bit - but between the "if i die, blame Shawn" text and her arranging her own murder, it almost seemed as if she was purposely trying to frame Shawn.....
There are people who are depressed and suicidal but at the same time very manipulative. I understand that having a man who looks dodgy follow you around is scary however if she did post an add on Craigslist about finding a hit man I personally think she might've used Shawn as the fallback incase things go south-or north if she really wanted to die-, because who else would people blame other than the creepy mentally challenged stalker right? I'm sure if she did post that ad then she never wanted anyone else from her circle to know. It is easier entertain the idea that she was killed by the creepy stalker rather than the idea that the victim posted an ad on Craigslist about finding a hit man. Just my thoughts
kind of sounds like she had a fantasy about being a murder victim and Shawn was the fall guy
I think the same
@Brett Segmento she wanted attention. Your so right!!!
Wow, I did not see this. You, my friend, could be on to something.
It sounds like Natalie was planning to blame it on Shawn as she prepared the event. "If I am found dead, it was him" makes that clear. Natalie was hoping to end two lives.
What makes it worse is that Shawn seemed like the only one to even acknowledge Natalie's suicidal tendencies, let alone care about them. The real culprit is not the one that shot, but the ones that drove her to ask to be shot. Shawn already pointed to her family, and right now I trust him.
@Pretty Princess P P The FBlie are worse than your dirty cops. WTH sense dose that make?
If I am found dead on top of the Eiffel tower, striking a pose, the Kush Aliens and the Suitman finally got me!
Exactly, that's what I thought.
@Marlon Davis i agree drugs make you feel hopeless and that guy should have gotten her help instead of helping her make the worst decision of her life. Maybe she was truly scared of Shawn and thought he might. I didn't think setting him up. Sadly it just looked that way in the end.
@@fvckoff2698 that is exactly what I think also! It’s really sad and unfortunate and I absolutely agree with you about him possibly understanding what she was dealing with. This is an excellent example of not taking everything at face value and how the whole “mob mentality” thing has consequences that sometimes can not be undone, regardless if the person(s) are innocent...
Shawn was and is a completely innocent man in all of this. He may have been proven innocent, but his life is still hard and he is still actively seeking help. It is one of the hardest things to be autistic and homeless with a shit family and becoming a person of interest in a murder case. #justiceforshawn
This is odd, her twin sister alicia also went missing 2 years later in 2019, apparently was involved in pursuit and was found at a hotel in anothet state where she said she was "rescued from a bad situation".
Edit/update - also found article from 2019 where father ted was arrested and placed in jail for possession and running from police, threatening to throw kids out of vehicle if police didn't back off. Maybe that was same event for dad and daughter. Seems whole family has substance use and legal issues and no doubt all parties have trauma from their loss.
What's even more saddening is that could have been a cause of the event with Natalie, just strictly due to grief alone...
Depression is (sadly it seems) a key to a slowing burning downward spiral into insanity if not vented or delt with properly.
We lose more to depression than cancer these days it seems...
I know her father Ted. He’s a con man, a thief and an all around piece of human garbage. Everything he says is a lie and a con. I’m very confident Ted was involved. Probably for money.
this is so sad. if her father was any part of it, but also the fact that she seemed to of come from this kind of background.
@@CaspergerTheAwkwardGhost I doubt he was involved in her death but I bet that her depression substance abuse bad decision making and suicidal thoughts were because of her shit home life.
So her family is also an issue....like how fucking weird
I can see how Shawn having aspergers could cause him to stalk a woman and think he was just helping or trying to keep her safe. I can still see why she would have been scared, but this dude's brain also doesn't understand what appropriate boundaries are, and it isn't his fault. I know from personal experience that it is well nigh impossible to get an evaluation or treatment for ASD as an adult. Just tragic all around.
ShroomyK he knows what personal space is
He expresses it to the reporters
Soooo, Natalie wants to die- suicide or hire someone to kill her (maybe)...I wonder what she was afraid that Shaun was going to do?
aspergers doesnt make you a stalker..? i sympathise with him for being falsely accused of the crime but we cant just let him off on a crime because of that. im autistic (and know a lot of others who are) and sure it can make your boundaries dodgy but we cant pretend that absolves him of being a stalker.
Uhh she led him on guys. Notice how he said messenger was the cause of him being there. He wouldn’t of been there if she didn’t want him there, taking advantage of him and his shecky. She used him for drugs. Super common these days.
But this video and her public posts try to paint him as a villain. Her private messages are a whole different story. Look into it. Alrjouht to do that you might have to put your prejudices aside and talk to someone who makes you uncomfortable.
13:59 Camera guy backs into a car and Shawn replies “Well done, sir.” Yeah this man is innocent for sure
Haha I didn't see it at first
😂😂😂😂😂
Silly ass media. Shawn being the only sane one by the looks of it
I was wondering why he said that! I thought it was sarcasm about giving him panic attacks, brilliant observation! made me chuckle. I wish we got to see the cameraman/reporters reaction
@Rulya Mórrigan Ard Mhacha no kidding. Saddens me to see that
Yay! A new episode. I just love your videos. Its sad that youtube always tries to demonetize this kind of content. Its important to stay aware of what can happen and that the stories of these people get told.
Great point. I started to think something was seriously wrong with me for being into this kind of stuff and Forensic Files but I have learned a ton about human behavior and I have NEVER rooted for the perpetrator of crimes. Except bank robbers who don't kill people. Bankers are the cause of damn near every social problem we have in life so when they are the victims, I am not sad. I do understand bank robberies terrify people so I guess I am not without some hypocrisy and I acknowledge that.
Don’t worry bro gavigan is making ten times more money than you are.
Mel Campbell his videos are demonetized, he doesn’t earn a lot, that’s why he scarcely uploads anymore.
Poor Shawn, Feel so bad for him, Just shows helping someone isnt always the right thing to do and is often the reason people turn a blind eye.
no good deed goes unpunished..FACTS!!!
I used to want to help people. now I don't much care for it.
:(, people seen as a bad person for wanting to help.
@@dying101666 I'm the same now.
That is a terrible thing to take away from this! Trying to help is never wrong. You are not the one that needs to change. The people who harassed him all need to become better people. And from the shame they must feel, I imagine many of them will now try to be better. Being good is a challenge, but the better a person you are, the better people around you will want to be. That is the thing to take away from this.
I think it's sad how she said "if anything happens to me, he did it, shawn did it" especially if she was intending to take her own life. I understand what it's like to be suicidal and addicted to meth, but don't leave this world making people believe an innocent man was responsible. I hope she's in a better place and I hope Shawn can move on with his life.
@@MrMorris I hate that I 100% agree
1 word.. Narcissism
I think it's ridiculous for you to jump to that conclusion. You have absolutely no proof of that other than a misguided opinion. She said that to her boyfriend in confidence likely because she was scared. Why was she scared, because she was being stalked. Have you ever been stocked? If you haven't you have no idea the terror that it brings. It ruins your life and destroy your sense of security completely so I think it's a logical conclusion to draw that she was actually in fear for her life from her stalker not that she was trying to frame him. Smh
The utter ignorance of all of you in this comment section is appalling.
@@sfletch3042 I have been stalked actually and sexually assaulted BUT would NEVER set up an innocent man. She KNEW she was going to kill herself, so her saying that was just to set the stage for him to be accused. Not only that but he was 'stalking' her because she told him She was suicidal and then kept playing on his emotions so he was trying to 'save her from herself' but he was being odd and weird about it, due to him having a different neurological set up. She was also on dope so I'm sure the 'government' and everyone else was out to get her too in her mind.
Sorry not sorry to be so blunt but girls that act like her are literally why girls who are really raped/stalked/ and abused etc have such a hard time being believed and getting their Justice. So yea rip and all but that doesn't erase her shitty actions.
That’s why I’m glad I don’t really post a lot on social media. Have fun looking at my cats lol
meow
lol, I used to be very public when I went through my emo phase, and I noticed a lot of catfishes and older men and women, so I just up and deleted everything. It's kinda scary thinking what would have happened if I actually went out and met up with one of my "friends"
I usually just talk about animation
Cats and memes for me.
I don’t even have any social media in the first place. It’s situations like these that make me happy that my mom doesn’t let me have any social media at all.
My heart breaks for Shawn. My brother also has asperger's so I know how his good intentions can come across as awkward sometimes. Seeing Shawn defending himself from the media put me into a protective rage! If you're seeing this Shawn, you're incredibly strong for making it through the abuse and keeping your mind on the one important thing: Justice for Natalie.
Stay strong, you've faced so many hardships and it's not fair. You seem like a really good guy despite all that and that's the mark of a quality person
Jessica Hanley I knew him and he is a nice person. Just misunderstood
Check the top comment.
My son has Aspergers and it breaks my heart how people treat those who suffer from mental conditions. I hope that one day Shawn can get some peace.
Also infuriated me, watching as he told them to focus on Natalie and articulating for the to stop as they stressed him out. Antagonist do it to intentionally make some lose their cool. Shaun you did very well.
In Arizona the young Hispanic kids sit at Carl Jr. Intentionally try get a rise out of someone, for fun, entertainment. One you adult, several actually but think one had 3 tables to choose from and sat right next to a women eating her lunch and reading. That young women turned on her video as the women did not want to sit next to her.
She was trying to show bigotry. Like the video crew wanting to get someone loosing it, for entertainment not to save a life or respect Shaun’s states need for them to stop. It is harassment as well as sick abuse!
He actually commented above if you’d like to say something to him!
never adapt mob mentality... that's the morale of the story, folks.
Jimbo Jones yeeeaaahhhh.... that’s a bit different. We’re not making this thread political though.
Converge fucking rules, man. Nice photo.
@@joeyclemenza7339 it's sad that Racial equality is considered political .
well said.
Too late. The world has already been taken over.
DON’T DO DRUGS
AND DEFINITELY DO NOT DO
Craigslist
I love snorting a good Craigslist tho
I found love on craigslist
@@cv2594
Let me guess
3 dollars?
@@iwinrar5207 LMAO
@@cv2594 eye roll.....come on!!
There are so many lessons to take from this but the simplest one is that there are 3 sides to every story. Your side, their side and the TRUTH. This girl was a mess. She manipulated the situation for attention. In the process destroying another person's reputation instead of getting help. Be careful what you share on social media. Not everyone needs to know everything.
Mia Rose perfectly said.
Chlxox Xoxo natalie’s boyfriend supplied the dope she used and Shawn and him didn’t get along cuz Shawn is clean. They saw a “homeless crazy guy” and tried to blame it all on him. The stalking and everything.
Preach Mia!!! Kudos chicka!!😊👍👏❤
Exactly. She sounds like an awful person
He's so lucky he's not in prison. People have been falsely convicted with far less circumstantial "evidence". If the plan at first wasn't to set him up, it certainly was convenient with their past later on.
The "Fuck Facebook, go look for her" thing got me going "YES!" Seriously, I can't think of any case where the court of public opinion has ever helped
Facebook and Twitter are garbage
Another autistic person being painted as “dangerous “. As an autistic woman I can say that sometimes we have special interests we obsess over. Sometimes those special interests are people. Helping someone, fixing someone, loving someone. I’m so glad you were proven innocent and I really hope you are well shawn
Yea it sounds like he cared for and was worried about her and she used him.
As understandable as that is, it’s still scary having someone obsess over your wellbeing. Autistic or not. I’m sure she was still frightened by him regardless of his good intentions.
my brothers is the high Fuctioning autistic too and i feel the same way.for him he was always Obsessed with trucks.at 20 he still is.i really hate the autistic stereotypes they were so damaging for him when he was young
Jacob Whitnall yes, but autistic people or anyone with mental illnesses in general are always the first ones people suspect or distrust
@@onyourleft4194 unforunely yes
He didn’t seem like he did it from his interview, just like a dude who was tired of being harassed. I’m glad they found the guy who actually did it, no one deserves the “guilty until proven innocent” concept
I'm glad that Rob decided to make a video about Natalie. My sister was actually pretty good friends with her and her twin sister (not mentioned in the video so I won't say her name) back in middle school. She and her sister would stay over our house semi-frequently so it was heartbreaking to hear about what happened to her.
She and my sister didn't talk much since she moved away from our state. But I'm still saddened to think about how much her sister and father must miss her. Both her and her sister were extremely nice and kind to me and my family, so it really is a tragedy that a young woman like her decided to have her life taken from her like it was.
Thanks for making the video Rob. Its nice to hear some more info on the case about her.
I knew her through friends of friends I feel the same way. CHS just to confirm, I guess
Awww man so sad 😔 I hope they got some closure. Her being a twin hurts more I’m sure her sister felt her pain and probably feels like part of her is missing. Poor girl
Her sister disappeared too
Jesus In Sweatpants really!?! That’s strange
Her father is human garbage and her grandmother is too. There’s nothing good going on behind closed doors in that family. I’m confident Ted was involved.
Okay I love that you had ready to glare in this video, she is literally a queen!
Wait is that ready to glare in there? Love her!
Why?
Juggling the Jenkins I thought that sounded like her too! ☺️
Wait I love her and YOU!! So cool to see you enjoy Rob too!!
Its her its in the discription of the video
I thought that too!
Stephen King couldn't have written a story this horrifying..The public assumed that she was so innocent..
Have you seen Twin Peaks?
Errrr she was innocent. What are you talking about
@@wonkydonkey8349 she got mistreated and this is worst than any Stephen king novel i ever read.😢😭
Aaliyah Essex from the evidence shown she was trying to frame Shaun. It might've been a suicide-in-the-form-of-a-hitman, but she still attempted (and almost successfully) framed it as Shaun murdering her
Aaliyah Essex she was barely innocent. Her bf and her conspired and blamed Shawn for stalking when the bf actually was the dope doctor Shawn was warning everyone about. Natalie was in some deep drug game. Barely innocent.
*Horrifying Music* "This video is sponsored by my comedy channel"
WAIT, READY TO GLARE IS HERE TOO???? Two of my favorites and I didn’t even know you two knew each other!! That’s so fun! Very good video!
Shes so toxic man
@@starixe9893 how?? 😮 I haven't heard anything about her
Starixe shut up
Starixe I gotta know the details gimme the tea bro
Yes I didn't know until now! Makes me so happy! 😍
When i heard Ready to Glares voice i had to check i hadn't accidentally clicked on a different video lol! She made a fantastic addition to the video, you defo need to have her/her voice in more videos.
Is It weird I find this relaxing, and love falling to sleep watching this? But in my defense his voice is so damn relaxing
Fall asleep to Archer, you'll have better dreams.
Not at all!! I’ve had to rewatch a lot of his videos because I couldn’t stay awake lol and not because it was boring it was his soothing voice lol 😌
Uk how many people are on this planet, you know how many of us have seen way way worst
Dolce Vida saame😂😂❤️
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This feels so wierd, I used to watch your vids wayy back before I knew Natalie and her sister, we went to school together and I was so shocked/sad when I heard the news and now I’m seeing her on you page. It’s such a wierd feeling never thought I’d see somebody I’ve met/talked to and was a friend with on here, but I’m honored to have known her and to have been a part of her life even as briefly as it was. She was super sweet and special to all tht knew her. Stay safe!
Crazy how people are still trying to blame Shawn in these comments
@chicken nuggies I mean yes he is clearly innocent of the murder, but mental illness does not excuse the harassment and stalking. I know multiple people with varying degrees of Aspergers, and none of them would go so far as to drive hours when someone didn't ask or to sleep behind someone's work. It reminds me of the Brooklyn 99 quote- "cool motive, still murder". In this case, it would be "valid motive, still stalking". I am mentally ill, and I agree you cannot always control your behaviors, however mentally ill people still need to be held accountable. We cannot act like he is some perfect misunderstood hero. No he is not a murderer but he is still a creep, and that is what I am emphasizing, given that most of this comment section is people acting like he was her true hero and best friend.
And frankly, I can't personally blame the media for assuming his guilt at first. I mean, you have a girl go missing and it turns out she was posting about a man stalking and harassing her? Obviously he's gonna be the first person the cops talk to. I do think it was fucked up for people to keep blaming him once he was cleared, don't get me wrong, but I do think it is natural that people assumed he had something to do with it given that he was literally stalking her and she said he was scaring her
I'm going back to school, I have a placement test tomorrow. The way Rob starts off each of his episodes with normalizing the possibility of these crimes happening to us. is the way I want my English essay to flow.
Are you from Las Vegas!?
And, thats why I deactivated my Facebook account, 6 years ago. It has become so toxic and mentally draining.
If it’s mentally exhausting you should’ve never made a fb in the first place , it’s social media you’re not suppose to take it seriously and if it’s mentally exhausting you were taking it too serious
All social media can be. Also it depends on who you let befriend you on FB too so yeah.
This. It’s literally just boomers, political arguments, and 9gag memes. No thanks.
@@GiDD504 nah I used Instagram to follow artists not toxic things
john lawful ok?
God I hate the media. Any time I see them flocking around someone like that who doesnt want them there its just rage inducing.
I remember after Columbine, the media was hounding one of the girls. They were shoving their mic in her face as she sobbed. A bunch of other girls and I made a wall of ourselves to shelter her. I've hated them since that day.
All so very sad for everyone involved. The old adage “don’t air your dirty laundry” comes to mind when I think of social media platforms like Facebook, Instagram, etc and the fact some people post every minute of their life forgetting that they have essentially opened their door and invited complete strangers into their home and life. May your narration be a stark reminder of what can happen, and hope that people take heed and use the upmost caution in the future. 💻🦋
Shawn is and was one of the most caring people I ever knew and glad his name was finally cleared.
i wish i knew who you are in real life, i dont recognize your tag
Finally a new episode been missing you bro 😁
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Saame
Yuhhhh boiiii
I second that
Shawn I could tell was uncomfortable but was polite and cooperative, I am saddened by the abuse he got, the media portrays mental illness only present in bad people which isn't true, with people jumping to the wrong conclusions about what happened with Natalie 🙄😔
The internet shows the true nature of the human mind.
Not really, just people who cannot handle the internet.
You see people more clearly when they wear a mask. Go figure.
Shawn probably could relate to Natalie, and felt a closeness with her. He was probably naive to how it made her feel and didn’t mean to come across as predatory or creepy. He seems lonely
@Altoid Bazingá actually she asked him to, go watch Shawn's own words! dude need justice
Well when a woman makes it totally clear that she doesn't like your behavior you should stop. Once she expressed that to him he's no longer innocent and just not understanding how awkward it made you feel Drake she let him know she filed court documents to restrain him. He knew he just didn't stop because he was being compulsive and didn't want to stop.
AlienPrincess ATX he has aspergers, which can make it difficult to understand social cues.
I don’t think it’s naive at all. Many people- himself for instance- would be happy for that kind of contact.
AlienPrincess ATX no. She was sending him mixed signals and it was an emergency. If your friend asked you to leave them alone but you knew they were suicidal, would you?
Seems to me like she was trying to set Shawn up for her murder, but why?
I think she had some sort of mental illness
Probably because she didn't like him. Maybe she wanted to throw the police off the trail of the suicide to spare her family and throw them on Shawn's trail to get him.
thought so too
as someone pointed out in the replies under shawn's comment- it really does seem like she had some fantasy about being a murder victim, and needed a scapegoat to take the fall. i personally believe shawn was nothing more than an easy target here, with his mental illnesses and the sob stories she was always posting to paint him as a bad guy.
•she actually reached out to shawn more than he did to her
•she asked him to come to va and "save her and her friends," then cried and painted him as a stalker who followed her there.
•she posted an ad on craigslist looking for someone to kill her, rather than just take her own life?
•always posting about her "struggles" with him, but not her actual problems with substance abuse and suicidal thoughts that were far more prominent? sounds like she WANTED to be a murder victim to me; but that couldn't be done without victimizing shawn as well, if she didn't want anyone to find out that set it up herself.
Frances Genzale Valentine this is such an interesting take on this!! Thank you for your view! I think it’s very credible!
Shawn Schwartz was surprisingly innocent.
What a twist.
@@ninjawizard7021 doubt it, so much was manipulated by Natalie you can’t believe it all. He was definitely stalkerish tho
I have a brother with the same disorder as Shawn, and yes I can see him doing what Shawn did if he was in the same position. He's a passionate guy and he's direct, and he wants to be left alone. I can understand his actions, I think if the public had known more about how people with Shawn's disorder think then he wouldn't have been accused like he was.
Same I have friends that look and behave just like him. They are the type that might look a little rough around the edges to other people, but are really sensitive with the most caring hearts for other people.
@M x you really have a rager on for this guy don't you? You're all over the comments like he knocked up your wife or something.
@M x I totally agree. I think some people are missing the point. He was stalking her so of course he's going to be suspect in her disappearance.
@M x I didn't say it was anyone's fault. My brother is mentally delayed in many ways, he could hardly be considered an adult despite being in his 20s because of his disorder. If you want to drum up drama about mental illness however you twist it to perceive it, pick someone else's comment.
Mental illness alone does not alleviate someone of guilt. I absolutely agree. But what I am saying is that if Shawn is anything like my brother, he's a good man who can seem shady to the outside world because the world at large is incapable of understanding their way of thinking, but his intentions are good.
I don’t understand why his behavior is autistic. Am I just old fashioned?
watching this before therapy is either a wonderful or horrible idea
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Put 3D glasses on for realistic graphics
I have a similar thought whenever I watch a vid like this before bed
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Shawn seems like nice guy, so polite and reasonable. I feel so bad for him. I struggled with depression and anxiety for years, so I really feel for him, I hope he is doing better now.
I understand that she might have actually been afraid of him and misunderstood him, but knowing that she was gonna soon end her own life, why would she put a target on Shawn? What a disgusting human being
Shawn was not a bad guy however in the mind of someone who has suicidal thoughts a person like him can push someone over the edge. Can you imagine a creepy guy following you, possibly rape and murder you?
Even a normal person could become stressful and have paranoia. Maybe she wasn't a disgusting human being as you say maybe she had enough and blamed Shawn for pushing her over the edge, even though he only had good intentions. That could explain why she wanted to blame him after her death. Food for thought
@Hellbound Wolf420 just because someone is paranoid doesn't mean it's schizophrenia thinking you're being stalked by someone has nothing to do with schizophrenia it's when they get delusional and irrational that schizophrenia is obvious.. for example someone I know has a schizophrenic father who thinks the NFL is watching him and trying to "steal his ideas" which obviously sounds insane being stalked by someone especially if you're female is a logical fear
demonjmh Although some who have schizophrenia may have more “logical” delusions, I completely agree with you. This was a case where she had evidence and reason to have her beliefs. Her paranoia was justified, and this paranoia may have been worsened by her depression and negative mental state. His Aspergers may have presented in a way that was misunderstood and potentially further reinforced these beliefs
@Hellbound420 For someone to have schizophrenia, they need to be more than paranoid. Paranoia is just one of many symptoms of schizophrenia. Paranoia on it's own can make you have irrational reactions to situations, and make you believe things that are "irrational and insane." Calling someone who is paranoid schizophrenic is like calling someone who is having a down day bipolar. You should learn the difference between mental disorders and emotional problems that are brought by unforeseen circumstances in someone's life.
You know this really didn't go the way I was expecting. I really thought for a second the boyfriend who claimed "I have a loaded gun" carried out this murder and was going to try to pin it on the poor guy who had stalker-esk tendencies. This Lopez character appears out of literally nowhere and is thr executioner. What a wild ride. Really sad stuff.
i live less than 10 minutes away from broomfield and although i never knew natalie, i have many friends who did know her. she was a year or so older than me. it’s so sad that her life ended so soon. from what i’ve been told by my friends as well as what i’ve heard from her family and the media, she was an incredibly sweet girl. i hope she rests in peace. thank you for covering this case. 💗
I LOVE the Rob & Ready To Glare combo happening here!
I was 16 at the time, and I still remember this all over the local news. My parents became super protective of me and my brother as this literally happened in our relatively dense suburban community. It's extremely sad that this occurred so close to home and affected everyone in our community.
She's the one who got herself involved with him in the first place..yet she tried to dramatize him. She had issues.
And he has plenty of texts showing she texted him back. Not as a lover but as a source because she wanted to kill herself. She was trying to blame it on him and not whoever really helped her do it. Smhw.
I'm guessing and thinking there's no way that they didn't became friends because of drugs.
exactly what i thought
horrible take. just getting involved with someone means you're not allowed to distance yourself or complain about them down the road? the issue isnt her getting herself involved or whatever, it's whether or not she was telling the truth and what happened. like, if he really had been a stalker (tho he wasn't), she's allowed to "dramatize" him even if she'd gotten herself involved with him
lol shawn has proof that she would message him about wanting to die and he would try his best to help her and yet she would go and then turn around and try to make it seem like he was some stalker. Sounds exactly like multiple women I know who would do this often when they were younger. Its a way of getting a lot of attention. And thats clearly what she wanted. I hope wherever she is at now she has peace
Yay new episode! I love your voice so much! 😭❤
Last time i was this early Rob"s youtube name was Rob *[REDACTED]*
Yeah... That one word that rhymes with "bike"
Naturally Courtney I ‘member
Are 90s kids gods? Cause its like you guys remember everything.
@@smoats8752 Yes. Yes, we are. So please humble yourself and bow before our total recall.. and eat your meal of smoat.
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These are actually pretty educational. These seriously strange videos give me plenty of material for my criminology studies. This one goes into the negative effects of the court of public opinion and how innocent people end up hurt by it.
I was wondering why I havent been able to see u in my notifications when this came on. dang - thanks for letting me listen while I work.
I gasped in excitement when I saw this in my notifications. Missed you so much, Rob!
I’m so sorry for Shawn. He was claimed guilty by so many people because of mental illness and a one sided story. It also shows how intolerant some people are of traits associated with autism.
Seriously Strange has returned to the TH-cam ecosystem, the earth is healing.
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🐍 no step on snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
Yet just like those who got backtraced by Jessy Slaughter's dad..the consequences..would never be the same !😅😧
no step on snek!
Hey, I see you on all of Tim's videos - didn't expect to see Mr Snek over here.
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Two of my favorite creators, ReadyToGlare and Rob Gavagan. Thanks for your hard work on this. ❤️
I was friends with Natalie. She evens drew a few of my tattoos. She was such an amazing person. It breaks my heart to see this video up here. I guess sometimes stuff hits harder than people can think.
Seeing this on my feed just made my day so much better, thank you!!! I hope you're doing well, Rob:)
13:59 "Well done Sir" after the camera guy walked into the car lol
THANK YOU, Rob, for giving us an un-slanted view of this story. This is exactly why i don't Facebook or social media. Shawn was tried and convicted on the internet with absolutely NO proof!
I couldnt believe my eyes, when I first saw the notification. Its been forever. Welcome back 👌🏿
This story is just a reminder that more and more people are careening into mental illness these days with not enough readily available resources to help them.
And where are their loved ones? Why are they not moving heaven & hell to help them? AFTER something happens to their person they wanna come forward & boo-hoo I'm so heartbroken. Yeah? Really? What did you do to help? Sorry didn't mean to word vomit on your comment.
i disagree. you are right about not enough resources, but in reality we pay taxes to hundreds of groups that advertise that they "help" but in reality, they are just going through the motions to get tax dollars. what i disagree with is even using the term "mentally ill" because i wasnt railroaded based on evidence, i was railroaded because the "mentally ill" label was used to discredit me, abuse me, ignore me, and so on.
@@fairladykd6734 Yeah that was my reaction at first, but I don't know, dysfunctional families are so cyclical and can pass down for generations from parent to child. And you know, it's a big cliche but people really don't value what they have till it's gone.
@@DOGGEDROMAN I'm not trying to dismiss your lived experience and, not knowing enough about your story, I wouldn't apply the label to you. But I have to ask, what else would you call it when a kid kills herself and another kid meets up with a complete stranger to kill them?
@@crownedpleb9747 dear royal plebian, we arent talking about kids, we are talking about adults. if someone kills theirself, it is called suicide. if they have a stranger do it, its called assisted suicide. this is pretty basic understanding of the english language.
Rob: *has funny channel*
Also Rob: imma sponser myself
Of course he has to. TH-cam doesn't like him much, he has to manually show his other channel to the subs to promote it
KrispinWah why doesn’t TH-cam like Rob ? He doesn’t swear or have bad content .
KrispinWah Hm, I find it difficult to believe that a greedy corporation like TH-cam would be waging a personal war against Rob, who has undoubtedly generated them millions in ad revenue from his content over the years.
@@Ravenfyre_88 not a personal war per se, but TH-cam is scared of any kind of edgy/dark content that could possibly scare advertisers away
@@shane0mac96 read my comment ^
3:20 why does he look like patty the pirate from Spongebob?
Yarrrrrgh its patchy the pirate!!!
Patchy has been on a down spiral
Poor Schwartz man. A misunderstood and falsely accused man.
Agreed. People immediately deemed him guilty before even hearing more facts and hearing different sides. Social media is truly disgusting
He STALKED her wth?
Nyan-Chan he has Asperger’s and it’s entirely possible he was trying to intervene with her attempt at suicide. It was perhaps misguided but that’s not the same as some infatuated stalker. Have a bit of compassion. He tried to save her, someone else killed her maybe put your outrage where it belongs.
Heather Mason To extend on that: people with aspergers (and autistic people in general) sometimes take things literally. My guess is that Natalie was having a suicidal episode and had threatened to kill herself multiple times (she probably said something along the lines of “im going to do it now”), and he took it at face value. What he did definitely wasn’t the best way to handle it, but when you look at it from his perspective, he was absolutely terrified that he might actually lose her.
Yes. This is why people are innocent until PROVEN guilty.
Shawn is an amazing guy my gf has been in contact with him and she is trying to set up a support group and discussion group cause honestly Shawn is an amazingly intelligent caring guy and too many good people like shawn go unheard while people like Tana Mongeau are shoved in our face. Thank you Rob for this video. Rob and Shawn my Brothers, Keep Fighting the Good Fight.
I just wanted to comment how everyone wishes him well is weird. I have Aspergers AND someone was stalking me for more than a year. Aspergers doesnt equal stupid and even dogs, man even HORSES understand "NO" and "back off".
@Jimmy Crackcorn you have evidence pf the harassment other then heresay and what was posted on her controlled Facebook?
This case is sf sad 😥
I would like to know the interactions between Natalie and Shawn to understand whether his actions were creepy or caring; but either way, I don’t think the media should be allowed to harass innocent people like they do. The media doesn’t care what’s morally right as long as they have a story. And I don’t think it’s hard to believe she would put a hit out on herself. Heck, I’ve had the thought to do that at times.
Shawn's Aspergers would have played a huge part in how he interacted with Natalie. I am in no way any type of expert on the condition. But I do know that those who have Aspergers are often incapable of reading social cues and understanding personal boundaries. So I have no doubt that Shawn believed he was doing good, but as he is likely unable to determine these aspects of human emotion, it is very likely his actions would have been perceived as "creepy".
Kealeyb as someone with Aspergers that is why I’d like to know the interactions because then I could figure out whether it was a misunderstanding or just creepy. There’s a big difference between not understanding something is stepping over the line, and doing it regardless. As someone who’s had interactions with extremely creepy older guys who aren’t on the spectrum I have somewhat of an insight into caring vs predatory behaviour. And I feel like he was overstepping boundaries he should have known about.
I can tell you about my interactions with Shawn working with him. Never met Natalie. But Shawn is the type of guy to give you his last dollar so you could buy a sandwich. Drive you to your house when his car is on empty. He’s a decent human who unfortunately was homeless at the time. I think it’s important to note that Shawn was the only person SOBER in this case. Natalie and her family were addicts. Her bf too. Shawn was the only person she CHOSE to be around that was a decent human.
@@hoppinginpuddles It's not that people like us are incapable of reading social ques. It's just that it doesn't come naturally to us. Unlike people without aspergers, we need to be taught social ques, and when to take things literally or not. I am one such person who has learnt to read all the social ques. Knowing when someone isn't interested in a conversation, or reading someone's emotions, to the small things like hand gestures. How did i do this? By paying attention to how people interact with one another. I started to implement that into my behaviour. At first it really felt like i was acting, but eventually it started to feel natural, and now i don't even have to think about it. With enough effort, you can learn to deal with mental disorders. For some, it just requires a bit of observation, and for others it requires drugs. I have add as well, but i have never had medications for it. I still can't work, but i have worked through the anger issues i have. The last time i was ever violent was in primary school, and i'm 21 now.
Great to hear your voice again Rob! Much love!
I remember hearing about this one at the time, it really is bizarre and the most overtly internet age crime. I love how well you captured the layers of uncertainty and how the internet distorts them! I'm enjoying your channel a lot, this one especially.
Though saddening, this was quite an interesting case, one that I have never heard about before, and one that definitely demonstrates the dangers of social media. Although I do enjoy when you touch on lesser known cases, I also like when you touch on more known cases, so I ask that you please touch on either the Manchester terror attack, the anniversary of which was only a few days ago, or the Port Arthur massacre. Keep up the good work Rob, see you soon.
Shawn insisting on having Natalie's disappearance and death solved immediately tipped me off that he was not involved in her murder. A person involved in the crime wouldn't insist that. They'd more than likely want people to move on from the crime all together if they aren't flaunting it, which Shawn definitely WASN'T. Regardless of if he were a "stalker" or not, it would make no sense for a murderer to demand for his crime to be investigated
As someone also diagnosed with aspergers, I feel sorry for Shawn, I would also be panicking mentally if I was in his shoes. He seemed to handle it quite well though, especially the part with the news and cameras. I would probably end up running away, and likely increasing people's suspicion in me, if I was in his shoes.
I Had a Feeling that Schwartz wasnt the Bad Guy in this Story.
Good to See you Back, Rob.
Holy shit. I saw that picture and was like “that looks like where I grew up” and I realized this literally happened in my hometown.
Thank you for staying respectful, I used to be friends with her freshman year of high school, even the people close too her still to this day are trying to make sense of it all for our own minds. And after reading some of the comments, I truly wanted to thank you.
seemed like only sane person in this story was the one person deemed insane.
Hey Rob, just leaving a comment to say I'm glad to see these videos making a comeback on the channel, I've missed you creeping me out for quite some time. Also, RIP to the young lady, such a waste.
Everyone that harassed Shawn including the news stations need to apologise to him!! I feel bad for him, he was truly just a concerned friend.
Marcie F. Sadly, America has very little regulations on its media. Here in the UK a news agency would be fined millions if they did what the American media did to Shawn to someone here.
She mentioned suicide threats.. That's not benign.
Epic partnership! 2 of my absolute favorite people to watch on TH-cam :)
You just made lockdown more bearable. Thank you. Your a legend in creepy content 🖤
Hi Rob I'm Tracy, me and my partner are big fans of yours, we love your programmes, you have the perfect voice for it, you're not boring at all, we watch you every day!
I love the internet when it gets creepy with arg's , mysteries, and tragedies .
Social media, and its legions of outraged Karens are the bane of modern society.
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Lmao those Karens are something else.
What an incredibly sad story. I live near Broomfield and I remember when she went missing. I never heard what happened to her afterwards, though. It's so tragic that, not only was her life ended, but Shawn experienced such incredible harassment, too. You're a great storyteller, thank you for reporting on this.
This is so crazy I went to school with her at silver hills middle school she was always so happy god I didn’t know she was gone RIP
What kind of person was she?
@@Politickticktickin a shit one
Well there you go. It just goes to show that her so called “happiness” was nothing then just a mask.
You can never know truly know a person. Even happy people can be the most two faced and conniving
This must've been a shock. Hope you're all good.
Seriously Strange... I thought I'd never see it again. This feels so good.
Love your videos and your narration is haunting. I've been watching for sometime...usually to lull myself to sleep and into some rather interesting dreams, and just recently subscribed. I have to confess that in writing this comment I am also hoping that you would turn your attention to the case of Aubrey Dameron, a native woman from Arkansas who has been missing for over a year now. Her story seems to have received little if any attention. I assure you my flattering introduction is heartfelt as I truly love your channel, just looking for some help. Thank you.
Yesssssss! New Rob video 😆 I only discovered him a few weeks ago, I'm from Scotland and hadn't heard of him before. I subscribed after watching 1 video of WWYPTOTI, then proceeded to binge them, all day every day. I love all your content Rob, if you see this. Funny/weird/strange/unexplained phenomena, you absolutely cover all my bases. (Plus you're easy on both eyes and ears 😉) This is my favourite channel now, and I've recommended to everyone I know. 😊❤💛💚
Wrote my comment before watching the video, im now so glad im not on Facebook, its a deceiving world.