The great thing about older completely offline games is that you always have the option of going back to the original regardless of what the publisher decides to do in the future.
Completely depends, do you have a physical copy? A lot of gamecubes don't work anymore, and the discs even less. If we're talking emulation though yes.
They have indeed lost the source code, so there will never be a 60fps version rerelease. In my opinion they should go all out and make a full on remake in Vesperia's graphic style. Of course adding some extra dungeons and story beats.
@@digitalchamploo9129 there isn't an official source, but that's what is infered. It's really similar to the rereleases of other games that are officially known to have their source code lost, like Final Fantasy VIII.
I am lucky to still have my GameCube and Tales of Symphonia was definitely the second Tales game I played (with Phantasia being the first) and loved every minute of it. Between ToS, Paper Mario, Baten Kaitos and Skies of Arcadia Legends, my JRPG itch was fairly quelled when I didn't have a PS2 at the time.
@@ichigoxrukia02 I use a RAD2X HDMI converter cable. You have to order it from UK and the shipping is stupid expansive. BUT the cable turns the gamecube signal into a native signal which means no excesive lighting.
My first Tales game was Vesperia which is one of the best in my opinion, but I always wanted to play Symphonia. I found and bought a used copy of Chronicles in a retro game store and now it’s also one of my favorites. I like the sequel but understand why some people wouldn’t and I agree Tenebrae was one of the best parts of that game.
Dawn of a New World was my first Tales of title, and I loved it! Until I played Symphonia and Graces, then my love for DOANW died down and I now struggle to play it again...
Playing Vesperia after playing Symphonia was disappointing. Yes, the combat was more complex and engaging, but the story left me wanting. It felt like 3-4 seasons of a show (the goal/objective is reached and a new one is introduced multiple times). Meanwhile, Symphonia has a consistent goal, rejuvenate the world, but there are multiple twists and complications that arise.
@@gowzahr Absolutely agree! Even the guy everybody keeps saying is the final boss, keep hyping up for the "final battle" and even have the usual "night before the final dungeon conversations" beforehand, was just another villain revealed after a huge chunk of story unrelated to him and then the story continues unrelated to him after his defeat. When the final dungeon reveals itself, it's not because of the player's action, it's because the REAL final boss finally acted at a very specific and arbitrary point in time. You get Undine, then Aspio is gone forever (and you can't get the female swimsuits during this playthrough anymore because of that). Vesperia's gameplay is better than Symphonia (makes sense, Vesperia is a more refined version of Symphonia), but the story feels very disjointed and arbitrary.
@@gowzahr To each their own, I see what you mean I suppose. I’m gonna the say story in Vesperia was amazing but I still enjoyed it and it’s characters.
Tales of Symphonia is one of the games I regret missing out on for the GameCube, and I'm really glad that it is getting a remaster for the switch: I will not be making the same mistake twice
Growing up I played this game LONG LONG into the night for an entire summer. Drinking gunpowder green tea. In my childhood bedroom, that barely was able to fit a laz-e-boy chair along with the bunkbed-with-underside-desk bed, the entertainment center holding a ~36 inch CRT television. I have such amazingly warm memories of Tales of Symphonia.
I completely agree and think a complete remake in vesperia's style would have made so many people happy with all voiced skits with the original cast but i think the least i was hoping they would do with the switch version is do gameplay adjustments. When playing with multiple people in this game, the camera will completely hide players which is very frustrating. I would also have loved if they added the 3D running during battle in this game if it was possible much like the newer games but the way they are handling this is sadly a wasted opportunity considering how many people love this game.
Yeah, the camera is probably the most annoying thing about the game, as someone who mostly plays it multiplayer. Free running would be very nice, especially since it's something the AI (both enemies and party members) can do, so I think it should be able to be added pretty easily. I wish there were literally any QoL changes included in this, very disappointing.
10:40 YES finally someone mentions how superior the Gamecube's intro theme is over the vocalized version!! There's something about that orchestrated theme that will always fill me with such powerful emotions that the theme perfectly conveys. It just SCREAMS "You're about to set out on this grand epic JRPG adventure, here's a gorgeous orchestrated theme to set the mood". It saddens me that we won't get to hear it in any of the remasters/ports ever again :(
You get up beat tones at the action parts, softer tones at the ancient/romance parts and even sad tones at the sad parts all perfectly timed at what's going on in the opening.
Nah, it sounds way too generic. Grandia for the psx is an example of that type of opening done significantly better while this just sounds like they pumped it out because they didn't want Japanese vocals or to make an English version themselves.
@@projectmessiah Yeah I just heard it and while not bad, it doesn't do it for me like the Symphonia US intro for reasons explained by moonflowerpalace3872 above, but to each their own I guess! 🤷♀
Man, just hearing the first notes of the Gamecube opening is a rollercoaster, feels like I'm 12 again with my Gamecube. One of the first games I bought on my Gamecube just because of the box art. Literally never played a JRPG before, didn't know anything about Tales, just looked at the box art and went "Neat". It's also the game that taught me english better than any classes at school (native french-speaker). And it was before I went on the Internet so the numerous plot twists and turns the game takes you on... To anyone who might have never played it... Do it, get the game on any form of platform and experience this at least once. I still remember my 300+hours save files because I just kept replaying again and again until I could buy everything in the grade Shop, every playthrough trying a new build (COme on, everyone got curious about S-Genis on their 2nd playthrough!). You summed it up so well Daniel, it's always a bit frustrating to see Namco not giving Symphonia the Vesperia treatment.... Also the anime was awesome, never let anyone tell you otherwise!
I remember one of my best friends got Tales of Symphonia when I was in middle school and he introduced it to me. The 4 player drop-in co-op was unprecedented at the time and I immediately went out to buy my own copy
I played Tales of Symphonia for the first time in 2020. The story really holds up very well, it has really great music, if you haven’t played it please pick it up!
I have so much passion for this game. There is so much joy and nostaligia embedded in Tales of Symphonia...thank you for making this video and bringing back those memories. Oh my gosh, the soundtrack alone makes me want to play nothing but jrpgs the rest of my life.
Glad to see Daniel take the reigns for one of these solo videos. And for one of his obvious passion games too. I’ve had a passing interest in the Tales series, and I’m hoping Bandai Namco releases a collection for modern systems.
yeah honestly i was already pretty underwhelmed that symphonia was getting re-released AGAIN, even though it got a steam and ps3 port of the ps2 remaster of the gamecube original. but there being no real, additional upgrades makes it feel like a waste. this is already one of the most accessible entries in a series where nearly half its library is trapped behind a language barrier, so it was hard to get excited for this. happy for anyone who missed the original and its three re-releases, but there's no reason to buy this as a fan and that's kinda upsetting
I love that the voice actor of robin from teen titans voices Lloyd too. Also the plot to this game is so phenomenal too guys. I promise you will NOT regret buying this game.
If you wanna play symphonia, play it like I do. Gamecube version on dolphin running at 4k resolution on TV with gamecube controller connected via USB adapter. Framerate really does matter for the tales of battle systems.
A cousin had it when I was 9 years old, and man, I liked it so much, specially when playing with him and my sister. I didn't know english at that time so I only enjoyed the gameplay and the voices. For me who only had like 2 games in the GC, in my mind, his was the peak of videogames. Years later, when I was like 14, I received the GC version as a christmas gift, oh boy, my sister and I played so much, that we ran out of blocks in the memory card. (I also remember that my cousin later gave a lot of papers, it was a guide with the sidequests, and he told me "this game is one the best I've played, it has a lot of content and it's so so good". He didn't lie). That game was so special, from the gameplay, the fact is multiplayer, the characters, the music and specially the story. I could speak all the day saying why I love it, but probably a lot of people know why. It's been always weird to me that in some reviews of the game weren't that good, saying things like "the story isn't new in videogames", at least for me was, but the worst thing of all, that the horrible sequel got better reviews for some weird reason... Even tho I still have the original, I have the PS3 version (I admit, yes, it's better in the GC), I really think I'm gonna buy it for the switch. By watching this video I was thinking "there's never enough Tales of Symohonia". Like some extra, the husband of my sister-in-law once said that Chrono Trigger was the game he played it so much and was the one that changed his life, then I told him my story with this game, and then he said "CT was my Tales of Symphonia". I really think this game it's that important and marked a generation
I do wish this rerelease of Symphonia could've been an R-styled remake, like Tales of Innocence R and Tales of Hearts R. It would be really cool to see Symphonia with graphics, performance, battle system, voice acting, quality of life, etc. of a modern Tales game (with the ability for multiplayer preferably). Though I would understand if, since Tales of Arise released just a year ago, they'd rather work on a new game project and thus went with a port for this rerelease of Symphonia. It's still nice that this game will be able to reach more fans, new and old alike. Thanks for this technical look into the Symphonia releases. I didn't realize all the aspects that make it seem like Symphonia runs best on the Gamecube. Also enjoyed hearing your insights, quips, and personal experiences with the games.
Tales of Symphonia was my game of the GameCube generation. Sure Wind Waker was great, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was fun but for me TOS just sucked me in & didn’t let me go until the final scene. I remember tearing up at one point in particular & who can forget the hot/cold coffee moment with Lloyd & Colette. Will be great to go back to sylvarant in 2023.
My favorite series still. Played on Game Cube and beat several it times. Even tried a no item run. Still love the challenges it brought to players. I especially loved taking on Niflheim.
10:21 the dry wahoo is perfect, absolutely love it. I'm thinking about getting the remaster when it releases as it will be the only way to play it for me, but we'll see how it goes
Tales of Symphonia remains my favorite game of all time. Having been THE GAME that put the Tales series on the map in the West, you'd think Bamco would show it at least a little more love. It's quite strange, but maybe it's a weird Final Fantasy VII situation where the formatting of it is strange enough that vastly improving it without just doing it all over would just be too much work. Ah well. I still have the game on the Gamecube (which I bought I believe 3 separate times due to issues, no regrets). It's almost as weird as releasing the remastered Tales of Vesperia in Japan only for all those years. I hear Vesperia sold entire systems on its own, and it's absolutely phenomenal as a game as well, so... Bamco is just weird.
i love the style of your videos Daniel! they have this chill, genuine kind of vibe to them, and your humours not too over the top. keen to see more of you
Just want to bring up some things that are not being reported on about the remasters. The same site that mentioned 30fps also mention that: A. The Boat's Acceleration Physics are being fixed. If you've ever gotten to that point you know how terrible that boat controls B. The Remaster is adding cutscene skipping for the first time. A huge win for repeated playthroughs. The lack of 60fps is bad, but it seems they're putting effort into other aspects of the game that have aged badly.
I hope we get cameo costumes based on Zestiria, Berseria and Arise characters. Imagining these old almost chibi character models having outfits from a PS5 game would be something else.
@@AndySola "every person ever" lol I would much rather have cutscene skip. Half the reason I don't replay this is im mashing through text I've already read, sometimes for minutes.
@@AndySola Please tell me you're not THAT dense? Who the hell wants to rewatch cut-scenes on a second run or for people who know everything abou the story but just want to get into the meaty bits already? Use your head dude.
This was my first game preorder. Saw it in a Nintendo power magazine back in the day. Dang gonna miss that 10,000 gald gold dragon you could keep beating up in the GameCube.
Tales of Symphonia will always be one of my favorite games of all times. I have a ton of fond memories playing the gamecube version with family members as a teen, and it's what introduced me to the Tales of series. I've replayed the game one to two times after the first and it's never gets old, and there's ton of replayability with getting all the titles and seeing a variety in certain scenes you can get based on who's closest to Llyod.
Awesome gettng to hear you nerd out over Tales Daniel! This is my favorite JRPG series. I don't disagree that Tales of Symphonia on Gamecube looks a lot nicer with the cel shading and 60FPS. It's held up beautifully. Especially if you have an HDMI adapter for Gamecube. Whilst I do enjoy the JPOP goodness of the original Japanese openings the orchestral arrangement used for the English version is amazing. Especially the arrangement which plays near the end of the game for one cutscene. The extras that the PS2 version included are neat, but sadly even though the dub actors returned. You could tell they were out of practice with the roles and sounded off. Possibly a different director too. Name changes too...Kratos Shining Bind being changed to Holy Bind despite it being called Shining Bind in Japanese and also called Shining Bind in the English version of Tales of Vesperia where Kratos is in the cameo battle. I do appreciate the extras, but none in particular stand out to make it worth playing over the Gamecube version. Also the Gamecube version notably has the Tech Glitch to get Tech from both paths. The Dragon in the Temple of Earth which incorrectly gives 10000 Gald making restoring a certain village easier. And if you use an Action Replay you can see the characters have some interesting unused Tech. Notably Raine's Mystic Arte (unfinished but with battle quote) she also has Dark attacks, Bloody lance and Dark sphere..which would've been very helpful as Dark element attacks are very scarce with only Summon Shadow and Adding Dark Element to weapons temporarily. Colette also has the Tech Grand Fall which is a reference to Tales of Eternia and crashes the game! If you have an Action Replay for Gamecube it's worth taking a look at this! Either way I have Tales of Symphonia on Gamecube, PS3 and Steam and i'll be picking up the Switch version as I want to see more Tales ports. Or localise some Japanese only Tales games already!!!! Innocence, Destiny DC, Destiny 2, Rebirth, Phantasia! (GBA version sucks)
LMFAO that 60 fps pc clip caught me off guard made me cackle. In all seriousness although it sucks not getting the gc version i’m really excited to finally experience this gem in the tales series as I don’t have access to sony, xbox and PC (def don’t have access to gc either) my switch is gonna experience long playtime with this one!
The North American opening reminds me of an arrangement set specifically _for_ what you're seeing on screen, like it was orchestrated live to be in sync with the video, much like a movie. The two Japanese openings...idk, they're nice, but I feel like they just don't pack the same punch. They feel disjointed, like the bands that sang the songs didn't know what they were singing to, or the animators were told "It's gotta be 2 minutes long" but weren't given the audio. I mean clearly they were, scenes and frames transition with the beat on specific points, but the tone just feels different. The North American opening really meshes well with the title screen, too. Like the opening feels very grand and epic, while the title screen is a much softer, calmer, more intimate moment before starting the game. Idk it's a tiny gripe in the grander scheme of things. I know people love the Japanese opening, and I don't mind it, it's fine. All I know is that I actively watched the opening almost every time I started the game, hardly skipped it until like my 3rd or 4th playthrough because it was just so _good_ . I think I've sat through both Japanese versions once each, and then skipped em every time. It just doesn't give me the same feel.
The only problem with the original Gamecube version is it had camera issues when playing multiplayer. It will always focus close up on player one instead of expanding the battlefield to focus on all of the characters. Other than that, it runs superior at 60 fps.
It was the 1st JRPG that I got for my Gamecube when I had the console, I love Tales of series and I knew that this game will be a forever gem on that console, even with Chronicles (that I got too), I will always keep my European French copy of the game !
Shoutout to my mom, when I was a kid and too young to know better, I wanted my first console and she had absolutely no idea what to get me and she got me a GameCube pack with Symphonia, and Golden Sun on GBA. Thanks Mom for having such good taste!
I only just started playing this game on the gamecube and while i haven't finished it yet, i'm absolutely loving it, i can't wait too play more of it. I never knew how different the re-releases really were, soo it was interesting too find out about them. Great video as always!!! ❤️❤️❤️
I was always curious about giving this game a shot. Knew of the series and heard how great this title is. Just always passed by it for some reason. You definitely motivated me or rather convinced me to finally give it a shot! Still use my GameCube so I am excited to finally try it!
me and my buddy when we were 10 years old played this game all the way through together. we put in like 200 hours into this game as kids. He played Loyd and i played Genis. I will never forget on the final boss we did our first mystic art and i did Indignation judgment by complete accident, we didnt even know mystic arts were in the game. Our jaws were on the floor. Most epic ending to our childhood game.
Hey @Good Vibes Gaming, do you think you can do some FPS comparisons between the GameCube and PS3 or Steam version? I did beaten the Steam version and I don't have the GameCube version. I don't see any FPS problems while playing the Steam Version.
I'm gonna sound weird for this... But I've played and cleared Tales of Symphonia over 21 times. Gamecube version only. But never actually owned a copy Myself. This remaster may be jank; but I'm getting the CE for it because I love this game. If I have to get a PC version and mods for "True High Definition" then I will do that too. This is my first Tales game and I will never forget it.
There is also 1 major gameplay problem that Tales of Symphonia had that later Tales games like Tales of the Abyss didn't have, which was the game LIMITS to 1 active Major Arte within a small window. Note: By Major Artes, I mean when the camera zooms in on the character as they say/cast the Arte. Let me give an example: Genis is setting up a larger Arte attack, and has finished to cast, but it doesn't trigger his attack because the boss for w/e reason gets priority and their attack works first. During this, let's say Raine is preparing to use Revitalize. The boss then uses their attack. Even if Genis and Raine's casting time was up, the game will PREVENT them from able to use their Major Arte attack since another person (the enemy) is using a Major Arte. There will be that noticable second or 2 delay before Genis's attack goes off, then finally Raine's would go off.
Now, when you go to Tales of the Abyss, watch how MUCH faster and more responsive both players and enemies can cast Major Arte attacks. It will seamlessly move from player to player saying their Major Arte attacks right away after the camera zooms in to cast it and not have a delay like Tales of Symphonia had. I'd have Jade be using some spell, the boss then uses theirs, with then Tear follows up her spell, all within like 1 to 2 seconds. I also noticed that Abyss would purposely have some boss battles have your characters be speaking out scripted dialogue DURING the boss fight, something I don't think was used much in Symphonia (this I actually like). My guess, they realized this battle problem for Symphonia and made sure to fix it for Abyss, which is also when they added Free Run as well. I do NOT know if this was ever fixed in any of the re-releases for Symphonia. The only Symphonia version I've really played is the GameCube version. I tried the PS3 version a while back and I could not get past the low FPS. It just seems like it was stuttering to me and I didn't even make it out of Iselia for the PS3 version. The low FPS was just that bad for me that I couldn't continue.
Alright I know I'm like a week late but I just want to point out the sales data at the start is a bit outdated. -Vesperia is currently the highest selling game in the series at 2.8 million units sold (as of last September, so that number might be a bit higher now) -Symphonia is currently at 2.7 million units sold (this was announced at TGS when they were talking about the remaster so this video was probably already being worked on then)
Yeah this is one of those games I played a ton on GameCube. If it’s not running at 60fps it an easy pass for me. It’s going to be great for new fans if you have never played the game as the story is still one of the best in the franchise. Also I love Scott Menville (aka Robin from Teen Titans) as Lloyd it’s one of his best performance the English voice direction for Symphonia is great across the board honestly.
the 30 FPs is killer, the NGC version is delicious, the cartoon shred is such much different, indeed the code is different, thick lines, consistent also, also better defocus, smooth as heck...
I was extremely fortunate to have been gifted the Gamecube version shortly before the switch version was released. I also have the sequel for the Wii, so I'm look forward to doing the let's plays of the best versions of both games.
I have the GameCube version of Symphonia and it's my first Tales of game and because of it, I'm a massive Tales of fan and it's my favorite gaming franchise of all time. I was so happy when I saw the masters announcement for the Switch, since I had planned on getting either the Steam or PS3 version for my TH-cam/Twitch/Rumble channel, but now thanks to this, I know which version I want to get for that purpose.
For those playing the Steam version. If you use Lossless Scaler, you can play at artificial 60fps. Some moments might look warpy, but overall, I'd say it's an improvement over the vanilla ps2 port if 30fps is a deal breaker. I didn't notice any input lag in my testing. There's also a cheat engine table that allows many added features. Two of which are an expanded Arte set (Arte sphere) and the ability to free run like in future 3D titles.
I bought the gamecube version at the mall about five years ago. Beaten it once and haven't touched it since. I might have to revisit it again before the remaster release.
I think I just saw you in Splatoon 3 lol. I'm glad I found the channel. I also have the GameCube version of Tales of Symphonia, one of my favorite RPG's of all time.
This hurts for me to hear that Symphonia will now be stuck at this "new" version of the game for what seems like forever. Almost like the Gamecube version of the game there was something wrong and just decided to never come back. I have the GameCube version and love it to hell and back, its a great game and I'm super happy that it's getting some spotlight after so long, it needed it. But having to play a game made back in 2003, you would think that we should be able to have a version that would run significantly better than it did back then but looks like we are stuck playing Symphonia with worse specs. What hurts the most though is that Symphonia has a legacy and fans that will see the game and buy it no matter what, which from there Bandai will see the sales and say that it was a success but in fact there needed to be a few more tweaks to really give the newest experience of the game.
Great vid! A shame the ports have never hit the 60 of the original. I wonder if the frame interpolation on nvidia dlss 3.0 would be able to “overcome” the limitation on the PC version of this and other 30fps locked games, since it just uses AI to insert artificial frames between real frames (i.e. a gaming focused version of the soap opera effect mode on TV’s)
Tales of Symphonia for me is the best Tales game. I’ve always tried getting into the other Tales games after it but it just seemed to fall short for me (not that they are bad games by any means). I’ve played Symphonia across all available platforms and your points made in the video are well presented. For those that haven’t played Symphonia yet, I highly recommend playing it. Do check a few other player reviews before dipping in for a purchase (especially if you’re looking for the GameCube version which is harder to come by). If you play it on the recent versions based off of the PS2 version, you’ll still have a good time with the story albeit with the minor gripes about optimization.
Can't fix them all, sadly. There won't be a functioning 60fps patch/hack without actually reverse engineering the game's code and modifying the right stuff, which would take a lot of time and effort to do. And Bamco is the only one with the source codes for the PS2/PS3/PC to actually work with and modify, but sadly chose the lazy, greedy route for this "modern" remaster.
That was only true of the PC port at launch. Basically every issue has since been patched. I've played through Tales of Symphonia on PC several times recently and have experienced no game-breaking issues whatsoever. You really do not need any mods to play it now.
the opening song gave me chills, so much nostalgia booting that up. I couldn't tell you the amount of save files my gamecube memory cards have for this game, still have my OG copy. Despite all these things, I am excited to have this game wherever I go when I want to play. I agree though, they could've honored it more with this release.
This game presents just one example of why I've been slowly upgrading all my classic consoles with HDMI, there's too many games either locked to old consoles, or that still have the definitive version locked to them.
As an experienced vet who has played a good chunk of the series, if the Remaster is your first time getting into Symphonia, take advantage of it. If it's not, only pick it up if you really want to play Symphonia on your switch. The 30 FPS framerate isn't particularly bad, especially considering this is a fairly long game, so there's plenty of time to adjust to the controls, and it being 30 FPS tends to moreso affect the animation looping rather than the inputs themselves anyway. What I really want to say is that Symphonia needs a remake though. These issues with porting it more or less showcase why Symphonia needs a remake; Namco can't expect to just keep porting this iteration for another 10-20 years.
I'm happy to have another option to buy the game yet again, I have it in Gamecube, PS3 and PC, now I'm going to get it for Switch and Xbox, I sure wish they made a remake instead but at least more people will get the chance to play this phenomenal game.
Symphonia is one of my top favorite games of all time. When I heard that it was finally coming to Switch, I was overjoyed! I played the game originally on Game Cube then later on PC. I've completed the game many times already and I'll never get tired of it. My only hope for the Switch version is that it has all the content that the Game Cube version was missing, like certain Arts and cinematics. I'm absolutely excited to get it on Switch and I don't care if it runs at 30FPS, just as long as it's fully playable and has ALL the content~
Really like the energy you bring to this video. Looking forward to more bub! Its rough that there already exist such a great version that most of people whos trying it for the first time gets cap by Namdai Bamco.
I absolutely love you guys for this. This is my favorite game in the entire world and always will be. Finding anyone who has admiration for this game brings joy to my soul. Thank you for spreading the word on this beautiful classic. 2.4 million is a lot but it deserves so much more. Maybe this time around we'll get more than a stupid mii costume in Smash...
I'll say that none of the remasters have rubbed me the wrong way in terms of story and gameplay. 30 fps is more than enough for the game. Now, I 100% agree with you on the GameCube opener. The og theme song is still what plays in my head when I open the game up, and have even looked it up on TH-cam a few times while playing to experience it again.
Also the difference between 30 and 60 fps is a big difference for me with motion sickness. I can't play many games that move quickly in 30 fps, I feel sick immediately.
My brother always talked about Tales of Destiny when we were growing up but I thought I never gave it a chance until Vesperia launched on Xbox 360. I really enjoyed it. I'm not playing the PSX remake of Phantasia and about 25 hours in and think it's aged really well! Even my daughter enjoys the 2 player combat aspect!
I'll take your word for it, but I lean more towards the PS3 version cause it's the first time I ever knew of Tales despite owning a PS1 and GameCube and all that, and the added content
Dropped the PS3/Steam version for the gamecube version when I had the chance. 60 fps on this game...totally changes the experience, imo. It's not only a question of loading time, but for a tales of, the precision in battles are very important, so the gamecube version is clearly more accurate than the more recent one.
I never knew about this until now. While I could just pick up the Steam release and download those mods, I prefer the portability of the Switch and the physical release. But I do kinda feel bad now knowing that when I get around to the game, I'm playing such a suboptimal version...
Nice job with the vid! This is great info for someone who is just getting into the tales series and was considering buying tales of symphonia remastered
Symphonia, Legendia and Abyss played a large part in shaping my childhood. Love the Tales series so much and wish they would treat it better.
The great thing about older completely offline games is that you always have the option of going back to the original regardless of what the publisher decides to do in the future.
Completely depends, do you have a physical copy? A lot of gamecubes don't work anymore, and the discs even less.
If we're talking emulation though yes.
@@thechugg4372 i do with the gamecube
@@thechugg4372 and they still work
They have indeed lost the source code, so there will never be a 60fps version rerelease. In my opinion they should go all out and make a full on remake in Vesperia's graphic style. Of course adding some extra dungeons and story beats.
Source on them losing the source code?
@@digitalchamploo9129 there isn't an official source, but that's what is infered. It's really similar to the rereleases of other games that are officially known to have their source code lost, like Final Fantasy VIII.
I am lucky to still have my GameCube and Tales of Symphonia was definitely the second Tales game I played (with Phantasia being the first) and loved every minute of it. Between ToS, Paper Mario, Baten Kaitos and Skies of Arcadia Legends, my JRPG itch was fairly quelled when I didn't have a PS2 at the time.
I too have the gamecube and the game BUT it needs an old TV to be played, and I have a recent one, which means the pixels hurts my eyes so much.....
@@ichigoxrukia02 - Aren't there any solid HDMI converters to make the play experience more palpable on current Smart TVs?
@@ichigoxrukia02 I use a RAD2X HDMI converter cable. You have to order it from UK and the shipping is stupid expansive. BUT the cable turns the gamecube signal into a native signal which means no excesive lighting.
Nice list, just like my very list! What a great gen!
These old gen action rpgs aren’t worth playing anyway. They couldn’t properly do action rpg back then.
Symphonia was the first JRPG that I fell in love with and, even though it’s aged a bit, it warms my heart to see other people enjoying it so much
My first Tales game was Vesperia which is one of the best in my opinion, but I always wanted to play Symphonia. I found and bought a used copy of Chronicles in a retro game store and now it’s also one of my favorites. I like the sequel but understand why some people wouldn’t and I agree Tenebrae was one of the best parts of that game.
Dawn of a New World was my first Tales of title, and I loved it!
Until I played Symphonia and Graces, then my love for DOANW died down and I now struggle to play it again...
You like the sequel?! Nothing can disappoint you. 😮
Playing Vesperia after playing Symphonia was disappointing. Yes, the combat was more complex and engaging, but the story left me wanting. It felt like 3-4 seasons of a show (the goal/objective is reached and a new one is introduced multiple times). Meanwhile, Symphonia has a consistent goal, rejuvenate the world, but there are multiple twists and complications that arise.
@@gowzahr Absolutely agree! Even the guy everybody keeps saying is the final boss, keep hyping up for the "final battle" and even have the usual "night before the final dungeon conversations" beforehand, was just another villain revealed after a huge chunk of story unrelated to him and then the story continues unrelated to him after his defeat.
When the final dungeon reveals itself, it's not because of the player's action, it's because the REAL final boss finally acted at a very specific and arbitrary point in time. You get Undine, then Aspio is gone forever (and you can't get the female swimsuits during this playthrough anymore because of that).
Vesperia's gameplay is better than Symphonia (makes sense, Vesperia is a more refined version of Symphonia), but the story feels very disjointed and arbitrary.
@@gowzahr To each their own, I see what you mean I suppose. I’m gonna the say story in Vesperia was amazing but I still enjoyed it and it’s characters.
Tales of Symphonia is one of the games I regret missing out on for the GameCube, and I'm really glad that it is getting a remaster for the switch: I will not be making the same mistake twice
Love to see Daniel spreading his wings.
He's got to fly!
Growing up I played this game LONG LONG into the night for an entire summer. Drinking gunpowder green tea. In my childhood bedroom, that barely was able to fit a laz-e-boy chair along with the bunkbed-with-underside-desk bed, the entertainment center holding a ~36 inch CRT television.
I have such amazingly warm memories of Tales of Symphonia.
This seriously makes me want to whip out my wii and play through Symphonia GC again. Damn. I guess I should finish Vesperia first.
I completely agree and think a complete remake in vesperia's style would have made so many people happy with all voiced skits with the original cast but i think the least i was hoping they would do with the switch version is do gameplay adjustments. When playing with multiple people in this game, the camera will completely hide players which is very frustrating. I would also have loved if they added the 3D running during battle in this game if it was possible much like the newer games but the way they are handling this is sadly a wasted opportunity considering how many people love this game.
HUH? BIJUU MIKE IS A TALES FAN?
Yeah, the camera is probably the most annoying thing about the game, as someone who mostly plays it multiplayer. Free running would be very nice, especially since it's something the AI (both enemies and party members) can do, so I think it should be able to be added pretty easily. I wish there were literally any QoL changes included in this, very disappointing.
10:40 YES finally someone mentions how superior the Gamecube's intro theme is over the vocalized version!! There's something about that orchestrated theme that will always fill me with such powerful emotions that the theme perfectly conveys. It just SCREAMS "You're about to set out on this grand epic JRPG adventure, here's a gorgeous orchestrated theme to set the mood". It saddens me that we won't get to hear it in any of the remasters/ports ever again :(
Just go watch the intro of Grandia for PS1.
You get up beat tones at the action parts, softer tones at the ancient/romance parts and even sad tones at the sad parts all perfectly timed at what's going on in the opening.
Nah, it sounds way too generic. Grandia for the psx is an example of that type of opening done significantly better while this just sounds like they pumped it out because they didn't want Japanese vocals or to make an English version themselves.
@@projectmessiah Yeah I just heard it and while not bad, it doesn't do it for me like the Symphonia US intro for reasons explained by moonflowerpalace3872 above, but to each their own I guess! 🤷♀
Man, just hearing the first notes of the Gamecube opening is a rollercoaster, feels like I'm 12 again with my Gamecube. One of the first games I bought on my Gamecube just because of the box art. Literally never played a JRPG before, didn't know anything about Tales, just looked at the box art and went "Neat". It's also the game that taught me english better than any classes at school (native french-speaker). And it was before I went on the Internet so the numerous plot twists and turns the game takes you on... To anyone who might have never played it... Do it, get the game on any form of platform and experience this at least once. I still remember my 300+hours save files because I just kept replaying again and again until I could buy everything in the grade Shop, every playthrough trying a new build (COme on, everyone got curious about S-Genis on their 2nd playthrough!). You summed it up so well Daniel, it's always a bit frustrating to see Namco not giving Symphonia the Vesperia treatment.... Also the anime was awesome, never let anyone tell you otherwise!
I remember one of my best friends got Tales of Symphonia when I was in middle school and he introduced it to me. The 4 player drop-in co-op was unprecedented at the time and I immediately went out to buy my own copy
Yea same!
I played Tales of Symphonia for the first time in 2020. The story really holds up very well, it has really great music, if you haven’t played it please pick it up!
Don’t support lazy work
This has been living in my head rent free this past month. Ugh this is one of the best tales games it needs the love it deserves
I have so much passion for this game. There is so much joy and nostaligia embedded in Tales of Symphonia...thank you for making this video and bringing back those memories. Oh my gosh, the soundtrack alone makes me want to play nothing but jrpgs the rest of my life.
Glad to see Daniel take the reigns for one of these solo videos. And for one of his obvious passion games too. I’ve had a passing interest in the Tales series, and I’m hoping Bandai Namco releases a collection for modern systems.
yeah honestly i was already pretty underwhelmed that symphonia was getting re-released AGAIN, even though it got a steam and ps3 port of the ps2 remaster of the gamecube original. but there being no real, additional upgrades makes it feel like a waste. this is already one of the most accessible entries in a series where nearly half its library is trapped behind a language barrier, so it was hard to get excited for this. happy for anyone who missed the original and its three re-releases, but there's no reason to buy this as a fan and that's kinda upsetting
I love that the voice actor of robin from teen titans voices Lloyd too. Also the plot to this game is so phenomenal too guys. I promise you will NOT regret buying this game.
I regretted it. Was NOT a good Tales of Game compared to Abyss and Berseria.
And Raven voices Presea. :)
This was a fun game.
@@PhazonOmega oh wow I actually didn’t know that.
@@MilesCW the ending kinda mid but all in all it was amazing.
@@PhazonOmega wrong game, but Starfire voices Viridi in Kid Icarus Uprising.
If you wanna play symphonia, play it like I do. Gamecube version on dolphin running at 4k resolution on TV with gamecube controller connected via USB adapter. Framerate really does matter for the tales of battle systems.
A cousin had it when I was 9 years old, and man, I liked it so much, specially when playing with him and my sister. I didn't know english at that time so I only enjoyed the gameplay and the voices. For me who only had like 2 games in the GC, in my mind, his was the peak of videogames. Years later, when I was like 14, I received the GC version as a christmas gift, oh boy, my sister and I played so much, that we ran out of blocks in the memory card. (I also remember that my cousin later gave a lot of papers, it was a guide with the sidequests, and he told me "this game is one the best I've played, it has a lot of content and it's so so good". He didn't lie).
That game was so special, from the gameplay, the fact is multiplayer, the characters, the music and specially the story. I could speak all the day saying why I love it, but probably a lot of people know why. It's been always weird to me that in some reviews of the game weren't that good, saying things like "the story isn't new in videogames", at least for me was, but the worst thing of all, that the horrible sequel got better reviews for some weird reason...
Even tho I still have the original, I have the PS3 version (I admit, yes, it's better in the GC), I really think I'm gonna buy it for the switch. By watching this video I was thinking "there's never enough Tales of Symohonia".
Like some extra, the husband of my sister-in-law once said that Chrono Trigger was the game he played it so much and was the one that changed his life, then I told him my story with this game, and then he said "CT was my Tales of Symphonia". I really think this game it's that important and marked a generation
I do wish this rerelease of Symphonia could've been an R-styled remake, like Tales of Innocence R and Tales of Hearts R. It would be really cool to see Symphonia with graphics, performance, battle system, voice acting, quality of life, etc. of a modern Tales game (with the ability for multiplayer preferably). Though I would understand if, since Tales of Arise released just a year ago, they'd rather work on a new game project and thus went with a port for this rerelease of Symphonia. It's still nice that this game will be able to reach more fans, new and old alike.
Thanks for this technical look into the Symphonia releases. I didn't realize all the aspects that make it seem like Symphonia runs best on the Gamecube. Also enjoyed hearing your insights, quips, and personal experiences with the games.
Tales of Symphonia was my game of the GameCube generation. Sure Wind Waker was great, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was fun but for me TOS just sucked me in & didn’t let me go until the final scene. I remember tearing up at one point in particular & who can forget the hot/cold coffee moment with Lloyd & Colette. Will be great to go back to sylvarant in 2023.
Great video Daniel! I’ve never played a Tales of game, but now I really want to. That OST is fire 🔥
And the *Tales of Symphonia short anime (11 episodes)* was SO AWESOME too! :D
Thank you for the kind comments ❤️ And again yes, if the Remastered version is going to be your first time playing Symphonia, I say go for it!
My favorite series still. Played on Game Cube and beat several it times. Even tried a no item run. Still love the challenges it brought to players. I especially loved taking on Niflheim.
10:21 the dry wahoo is perfect, absolutely love it. I'm thinking about getting the remaster when it releases as it will be the only way to play it for me, but we'll see how it goes
Tales of Symphonia remains my favorite game of all time. Having been THE GAME that put the Tales series on the map in the West, you'd think Bamco would show it at least a little more love. It's quite strange, but maybe it's a weird Final Fantasy VII situation where the formatting of it is strange enough that vastly improving it without just doing it all over would just be too much work. Ah well. I still have the game on the Gamecube (which I bought I believe 3 separate times due to issues, no regrets). It's almost as weird as releasing the remastered Tales of Vesperia in Japan only for all those years. I hear Vesperia sold entire systems on its own, and it's absolutely phenomenal as a game as well, so... Bamco is just weird.
i love the style of your videos Daniel! they have this chill, genuine kind of vibe to them, and your humours not too over the top. keen to see more of you
Just want to bring up some things that are not being reported on about the remasters. The same site that mentioned 30fps also mention that:
A. The Boat's Acceleration Physics are being fixed. If you've ever gotten to that point you know how terrible that boat controls
B. The Remaster is adding cutscene skipping for the first time. A huge win for repeated playthroughs.
The lack of 60fps is bad, but it seems they're putting effort into other aspects of the game that have aged badly.
I hope we get cameo costumes based on Zestiria, Berseria and Arise characters. Imagining these old almost chibi character models having outfits from a PS5 game would be something else.
I believe every person ever would prefer 60 fps over those two minor improvements.
@@AndySola "every person ever" lol
I would much rather have cutscene skip. Half the reason I don't replay this is im mashing through text I've already read, sometimes for minutes.
@@OverruledDood Who plays RPG games just to skip the story though? Are you CDawgVA? lol
@@AndySola Please tell me you're not THAT dense? Who the hell wants to rewatch cut-scenes on a second run or for people who know everything abou the story but just want to get into the meaty bits already? Use your head dude.
This was my first game preorder. Saw it in a Nintendo power magazine back in the day. Dang gonna miss that 10,000 gald gold dragon you could keep beating up in the GameCube.
Tales of Symphonia will always be one of my favorite games of all times. I have a ton of fond memories playing the gamecube version with family members as a teen, and it's what introduced me to the Tales of series. I've replayed the game one to two times after the first and it's never gets old, and there's ton of replayability with getting all the titles and seeing a variety in certain scenes you can get based on who's closest to Llyod.
Same bro ! This is my favorite game of all time 🤌
Awesome gettng to hear you nerd out over Tales Daniel! This is my favorite JRPG series. I don't disagree that Tales of Symphonia on Gamecube looks a lot nicer with the cel shading and 60FPS. It's held up beautifully. Especially if you have an HDMI adapter for Gamecube. Whilst I do enjoy the JPOP goodness of the original Japanese openings the orchestral arrangement used for the English version is amazing. Especially the arrangement which plays near the end of the game for one cutscene. The extras that the PS2 version included are neat, but sadly even though the dub actors returned. You could tell they were out of practice with the roles and sounded off. Possibly a different director too. Name changes too...Kratos Shining Bind being changed to Holy Bind despite it being called Shining Bind in Japanese and also called Shining Bind in the English version of Tales of Vesperia where Kratos is in the cameo battle. I do appreciate the extras, but none in particular stand out to make it worth playing over the Gamecube version.
Also the Gamecube version notably has the Tech Glitch to get Tech from both paths. The Dragon in the Temple of Earth which incorrectly gives 10000 Gald making restoring a certain village easier. And if you use an Action Replay you can see the characters have some interesting unused Tech. Notably Raine's Mystic Arte (unfinished but with battle quote) she also has Dark attacks, Bloody lance and Dark sphere..which would've been very helpful as Dark element attacks are very scarce with only Summon Shadow and Adding Dark Element to weapons temporarily. Colette also has the Tech Grand Fall which is a reference to Tales of Eternia and crashes the game! If you have an Action Replay for Gamecube it's worth taking a look at this!
Either way I have Tales of Symphonia on Gamecube, PS3 and Steam and i'll be picking up the Switch version as I want to see more Tales ports. Or localise some Japanese only Tales games already!!!! Innocence, Destiny DC, Destiny 2, Rebirth, Phantasia! (GBA version sucks)
The gamecube intro is so goooood. It matches the mood of each scene
Symphonia is so underrated.
No it’s not?
@@omensoffate Every tales game is.
No they’re not?? They’re known in and out of the fandom as being pretty good, even if they’re still niche
@@yemmohater2796 To me if the game is niche and good or better then I would consider that underrated.
LMFAO that 60 fps pc clip caught me off guard made me cackle.
In all seriousness although it sucks not getting the gc version i’m really excited to finally experience this gem in the tales series as I don’t have access to sony, xbox and PC (def don’t have access to gc either)
my switch is gonna experience long playtime with this one!
The North American opening reminds me of an arrangement set specifically _for_ what you're seeing on screen, like it was orchestrated live to be in sync with the video, much like a movie. The two Japanese openings...idk, they're nice, but I feel like they just don't pack the same punch. They feel disjointed, like the bands that sang the songs didn't know what they were singing to, or the animators were told "It's gotta be 2 minutes long" but weren't given the audio.
I mean clearly they were, scenes and frames transition with the beat on specific points, but the tone just feels different. The North American opening really meshes well with the title screen, too. Like the opening feels very grand and epic, while the title screen is a much softer, calmer, more intimate moment before starting the game.
Idk it's a tiny gripe in the grander scheme of things. I know people love the Japanese opening, and I don't mind it, it's fine. All I know is that I actively watched the opening almost every time I started the game, hardly skipped it until like my 3rd or 4th playthrough because it was just so _good_ . I think I've sat through both Japanese versions once each, and then skipped em every time. It just doesn't give me the same feel.
Tales of Symphonia took me some rough times... love this game
The only problem with the original Gamecube version is it had camera issues when playing multiplayer. It will always focus close up on player one instead of expanding the battlefield to focus on all of the characters. Other than that, it runs superior at 60 fps.
It was the 1st JRPG that I got for my Gamecube when I had the console, I love Tales of series and I knew that this game will be a forever gem on that console, even with Chronicles (that I got too), I will always keep my European French copy of the game !
Shoutout to my mom, when I was a kid and too young to know better, I wanted my first console and she had absolutely no idea what to get me and she got me a GameCube pack with Symphonia, and Golden Sun on GBA. Thanks Mom for having such good taste!
These are the videos you guys should be doing more of.
I only just started playing this game on the gamecube and while i haven't finished it yet, i'm absolutely loving it, i can't wait too play more of it. I never knew how different the re-releases really were, soo it was interesting too find out about them. Great video as always!!! ❤️❤️❤️
I saw the title of this video and assumed this was Jon. Pleasantly surprised to see you Daniel! Keep up the great content!
I was always curious about giving this game a shot. Knew of the series and heard how great this title is. Just always passed by it for some reason. You definitely motivated me or rather convinced me to finally give it a shot! Still use my GameCube so I am excited to finally try it!
You're killing it with these RPG videos Daniel - awesome work! =D
me and my buddy when we were 10 years old played this game all the way through together. we put in like 200 hours into this game as kids. He played Loyd and i played Genis. I will never forget on the final boss we did our first mystic art and i did Indignation judgment by complete accident, we didnt even know mystic arts were in the game. Our jaws were on the floor. Most epic ending to our childhood game.
Hey @Good Vibes Gaming, do you think you can do some FPS comparisons between the GameCube and PS3 or Steam version? I did beaten the Steam version and I don't have the GameCube version. I don't see any FPS problems while playing the Steam Version.
There are no "problems" perse if you don't mind "30 FPS"
@@BmoreAkuma I just wanted to see what the actual difference between the 30 FPS was and the 60 FPS from the GameCube version.
I'm gonna sound weird for this... But I've played and cleared Tales of Symphonia over 21 times. Gamecube version only. But never actually owned a copy Myself. This remaster may be jank; but I'm getting the CE for it because I love this game. If I have to get a PC version and mods for "True High Definition" then I will do that too. This is my first Tales game and I will never forget it.
I would say this is Daniel's best video yet. Keep doing an awesome job, Daniel!
Tales of Symphonia love is always great to see
There is also 1 major gameplay problem that Tales of Symphonia had that later Tales games like Tales of the Abyss didn't have, which was the game LIMITS to 1 active Major Arte within a small window. Note: By Major Artes, I mean when the camera zooms in on the character as they say/cast the Arte.
Let me give an example: Genis is setting up a larger Arte attack, and has finished to cast, but it doesn't trigger his attack because the boss for w/e reason gets priority and their attack works first. During this, let's say Raine is preparing to use Revitalize. The boss then uses their attack. Even if Genis and Raine's casting time was up, the game will PREVENT them from able to use their Major Arte attack since another person (the enemy) is using a Major Arte. There will be that noticable second or 2 delay before Genis's attack goes off, then finally Raine's would go off.
Now, when you go to Tales of the Abyss, watch how MUCH faster and more responsive both players and enemies can cast Major Arte attacks. It will seamlessly move from player to player saying their Major Arte attacks right away after the camera zooms in to cast it and not have a delay like Tales of Symphonia had. I'd have Jade be using some spell, the boss then uses theirs, with then Tear follows up her spell, all within like 1 to 2 seconds. I also noticed that Abyss would purposely have some boss battles have your characters be speaking out scripted dialogue DURING the boss fight, something I don't think was used much in Symphonia (this I actually like).
My guess, they realized this battle problem for Symphonia and made sure to fix it for Abyss, which is also when they added Free Run as well.
I do NOT know if this was ever fixed in any of the re-releases for Symphonia. The only Symphonia version I've really played is the GameCube version. I tried the PS3 version a while back and I could not get past the low FPS. It just seems like it was stuttering to me and I didn't even make it out of Iselia for the PS3 version. The low FPS was just that bad for me that I couldn't continue.
Alright I know I'm like a week late but I just want to point out the sales data at the start is a bit outdated.
-Vesperia is currently the highest selling game in the series at 2.8 million units sold (as of last September, so that number might be a bit higher now)
-Symphonia is currently at 2.7 million units sold (this was announced at TGS when they were talking about the remaster so this video was probably already being worked on then)
I’m just happy to finally experience the Final Fantasy VII of the Tales of series.
Daniel please keep making JRPG videos!
Yeah this is one of those games I played a ton on GameCube. If it’s not running at 60fps it an easy pass for me. It’s going to be great for new fans if you have never played the game as the story is still one of the best in the franchise. Also I love Scott Menville (aka Robin from Teen Titans) as Lloyd it’s one of his best performance the English voice direction for Symphonia is great across the board honestly.
the 30 FPs is killer, the NGC version is delicious, the cartoon shred is such much different, indeed the code is different, thick lines, consistent also, also better defocus, smooth as heck...
6:42 Lol where’s Sorey in that awesome image. I love see him stand next to Velvet in official artwork
I was extremely fortunate to have been gifted the Gamecube version shortly before the switch version was released. I also have the sequel for the Wii, so I'm look forward to doing the let's plays of the best versions of both games.
Hey, where'd you get the frame for the Zelda poster? I just have mine free-hanging because the thing is a weird size.
Man I loved this game, I'm keen to buy it again on Switch since I haven't it since back in the GCN days ... Despite the disappointment with 30fps
they need to give this one more love. I love symphonia
I have the GameCube version of Symphonia and it's my first Tales of game and because of it, I'm a massive Tales of fan and it's my favorite gaming franchise of all time.
I was so happy when I saw the masters announcement for the Switch, since I had planned on getting either the Steam or PS3 version for my TH-cam/Twitch/Rumble channel, but now thanks to this, I know which version I want to get for that purpose.
7:40 honestly I wouldn’t mind doing this on a second play through, this looks hilarious
Easily a must-have if you owned a Gamecube way back. You did a great job of honouring this game. Nice video!
If you just set the code to 60 FPS, Lloyd starts doing irish dancing!
12:32 LOL "it makes my expheres recoil back"
I like this video! Great take on it! Also your friend NEEDS to play the original, I'm with you on that
For those playing the Steam version. If you use Lossless Scaler, you can play at artificial 60fps. Some moments might look warpy, but overall, I'd say it's an improvement over the vanilla ps2 port if 30fps is a deal breaker. I didn't notice any input lag in my testing.
There's also a cheat engine table that allows many added features. Two of which are an expanded Arte set (Arte sphere) and the ability to free run like in future 3D titles.
I bought the gamecube version at the mall about five years ago. Beaten it once and haven't touched it since. I might have to revisit it again before the remaster release.
That Flanoir music at the end though
I think I just saw you in Splatoon 3 lol. I'm glad I found the channel. I also have the GameCube version of Tales of Symphonia, one of my favorite RPG's of all time.
This hurts for me to hear that Symphonia will now be stuck at this "new" version of the game for what seems like forever. Almost like the Gamecube version of the game there was something wrong and just decided to never come back. I have the GameCube version and love it to hell and back, its a great game and I'm super happy that it's getting some spotlight after so long, it needed it. But having to play a game made back in 2003, you would think that we should be able to have a version that would run significantly better than it did back then but looks like we are stuck playing Symphonia with worse specs. What hurts the most though is that Symphonia has a legacy and fans that will see the game and buy it no matter what, which from there Bandai will see the sales and say that it was a success but in fact there needed to be a few more tweaks to really give the newest experience of the game.
Great vid! A shame the ports have never hit the 60 of the original. I wonder if the frame interpolation on nvidia dlss 3.0 would be able to “overcome” the limitation on the PC version of this and other 30fps locked games, since it just uses AI to insert artificial frames between real frames (i.e. a gaming focused version of the soap opera effect mode on TV’s)
This game is true artwork in motion in every aspect no matter what ❤️
Tales of Symphonia for me is the best Tales game. I’ve always tried getting into the other Tales games after it but it just seemed to fall short for me (not that they are bad games by any means). I’ve played Symphonia across all available platforms and your points made in the video are well presented.
For those that haven’t played Symphonia yet, I highly recommend playing it. Do check a few other player reviews before dipping in for a purchase (especially if you’re looking for the GameCube version which is harder to come by). If you play it on the recent versions based off of the PS2 version, you’ll still have a good time with the story albeit with the minor gripes about optimization.
So, ARE there fixes to all of the re-releases issues on steam, then? Or is there still no functioning 60fps fan patch/hack?
Can't fix them all, sadly. There won't be a functioning 60fps patch/hack without actually reverse engineering the game's code and modifying the right stuff, which would take a lot of time and effort to do. And Bamco is the only one with the source codes for the PS2/PS3/PC to actually work with and modify, but sadly chose the lazy, greedy route for this "modern" remaster.
I saw a lot of comments saying bad the port is, a lot said you need a mod to run the game correctly
That was only true of the PC port at launch. Basically every issue has since been patched. I've played through Tales of Symphonia on PC several times recently and have experienced no game-breaking issues whatsoever.
You really do not need any mods to play it now.
@@DracoFlame67 I wasn't sure since theres ot much recently reviews about those problems, same as Chrono Trigger
the opening song gave me chills, so much nostalgia booting that up. I couldn't tell you the amount of save files my gamecube memory cards have for this game, still have my OG copy. Despite all these things, I am excited to have this game wherever I go when I want to play. I agree though, they could've honored it more with this release.
This game presents just one example of why I've been slowly upgrading all my classic consoles with HDMI, there's too many games either locked to old consoles, or that still have the definitive version locked to them.
As an experienced vet who has played a good chunk of the series, if the Remaster is your first time getting into Symphonia, take advantage of it.
If it's not, only pick it up if you really want to play Symphonia on your switch.
The 30 FPS framerate isn't particularly bad, especially considering this is a fairly long game, so there's plenty of time to adjust to the controls, and it being 30 FPS tends to moreso affect the animation looping rather than the inputs themselves anyway.
What I really want to say is that Symphonia needs a remake though. These issues with porting it more or less showcase why Symphonia needs a remake; Namco can't expect to just keep porting this iteration for another 10-20 years.
I’ve still got my GameCube version that I play on Wii and it will still always be one of my all time most favorite games!!
I'm happy to have another option to buy the game yet again, I have it in Gamecube, PS3 and PC, now I'm going to get it for Switch and Xbox, I sure wish they made a remake instead but at least more people will get the chance to play this phenomenal game.
Symphonia is one of my top favorite games of all time. When I heard that it was finally coming to Switch, I was overjoyed!
I played the game originally on Game Cube then later on PC. I've completed the game many times already and I'll never get tired of it. My only hope for the Switch version is that it has all the content that the Game Cube version was missing, like certain Arts and cinematics. I'm absolutely excited to get it on Switch and I don't care if it runs at 30FPS, just as long as it's fully playable and has ALL the content~
I actually own the game on Steam, but didn't know there were settings to fix things to look nicer. How do I do that?
Really like the energy you bring to this video. Looking forward to more bub! Its rough that there already exist such a great version that most of people whos trying it for the first time gets cap by Namdai Bamco.
I absolutely love you guys for this. This is my favorite game in the entire world and always will be. Finding anyone who has admiration for this game brings joy to my soul. Thank you for spreading the word on this beautiful classic. 2.4 million is a lot but it deserves so much more. Maybe this time around we'll get more than a stupid mii costume in Smash...
I'll say that none of the remasters have rubbed me the wrong way in terms of story and gameplay. 30 fps is more than enough for the game. Now, I 100% agree with you on the GameCube opener. The og theme song is still what plays in my head when I open the game up, and have even looked it up on TH-cam a few times while playing to experience it again.
Also the difference between 30 and 60 fps is a big difference for me with motion sickness. I can't play many games that move quickly in 30 fps, I feel sick immediately.
My brother always talked about Tales of Destiny when we were growing up but I thought I never gave it a chance until Vesperia launched on Xbox 360. I really enjoyed it. I'm not playing the PSX remake of Phantasia and about 25 hours in and think it's aged really well! Even my daughter enjoys the 2 player combat aspect!
I'll take your word for it, but I lean more towards the PS3 version cause it's the first time I ever knew of Tales despite owning a PS1 and GameCube and all that, and the added content
Dropped the PS3/Steam version for the gamecube version when I had the chance. 60 fps on this game...totally changes the experience, imo. It's not only a question of loading time, but for a tales of, the precision in battles are very important, so the gamecube version is clearly more accurate than the more recent one.
10:48 oh the nostalgia 🥲 I miss this
I never knew about this until now. While I could just pick up the Steam release and download those mods, I prefer the portability of the Switch and the physical release. But I do kinda feel bad now knowing that when I get around to the game, I'm playing such a suboptimal version...
So does steam symphonia there today not have the dawn of the new world too?
Tenebrae is the best Tales of mascot character CHANGE MY MIND COME ON FIGHT ME
(Seriously just search skits with him he is hilarious)
I have only played this game on the GameCube on a CRT. I cannot wait for HD 1080p on an OLED.
7:40 is this the new M. Night movie?
Nice job with the vid! This is great info for someone who is just getting into the tales series and was considering buying tales of symphonia remastered
Should I play the remaster version on steam or the GameCube version ? What do you guys advise