A Forgotten Gem That Almost RUINED Dreamworks
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- Check Out squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, go to squarespace.co... to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain
WATCH ME LIVE: / bionicpigtv
Outro (my music): • The Stars - No Copyright
Socials: linktr.ee/Bion...
GO CHECK OUT: wickedandwired...
Follow: / wickedandwired
Check Out squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, go to squarespace.com/Bionicpig to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain
Pig, you seem to me like you're "just a humble youtuber, making his way through the internet"
I tried to click on the bionicpig link for squarespace, and it says the page cannot be found :
Heavy Metal 2000 is a very mature revenge/adventure movie when it came out in 2000. Also, Michael Ironside is in it and he voiced The Main Antagonist of the film back then.
Yooooo BP I think you should review Anastasia, a beautifully well animated 90's movie with a very impactful storyline. It's really good 😊
PLEASE REVIEW THE MOVIE ANT BULLY🫶🏾✨️
It's a scandal that critics disliked this movie. Twenty years later, the animation looks so gorgeous. 3D animation still has goofy-looking humans, but the humans here are so expressive.
Is that just a regular wolf, or is that Legoshi?
a childhood movie of mine. still holds up today.
Good animation doesn't necessarily save a movie.
I really do wonder why animation fails so consistently when it's usually some of the best cinema the world has to offer.
Exactly I have watched almost every animated movie in the west and I’m currently catching up anime. Sure some animation is specifically for little kids but animation is a medium that can be used to tell incredible stories for people of all ages
@@AndreNitroXwatch Neon Genesis Evangelion😂
Greed…that’s the reason
Its mostly fails in the USA for the most part. The US just has a large bias for animation, animation is for children so the stories aren't as good. Which is so weird, like outside of disney right the 60s, 70s and 80s were full of experimental animation that was targeted at older audiences and movies were Family Movies(tm). We kinda lost the Family movie (tm) movies that were just good stories that the whole family can enjoy together. Not just small children. Also there are so many amazing animated movies from other parts of the world (not just japan) that are really adult and just cinematic af. There's a lot of really good french animated movies /short films that are very adult in tone and talk about very serious topics. Animation i feel can express emotion better than traditional filming.
Other than that stuff, some people just don't connect to animation. Like they can't fully immerse themselves into the story or they find the animation distracting, or they just don't like 2D. Ive met people like this in person, a middle ground i found is stop motion animation, since its more real.
Its like with books, lots of people say they don't like books.
Edit: also i really hate the whole "its for kids so its not good" mind set. Like yeah you're not going to fully engage with a movie ment for toddlers but most kid movies are actually really nice and a decent story with good music. Honestly a good movie at the end of the day is a movie thats not boring and you like it for whatever reason.
@@robinnewhouse1563 im getting there
Prince of Egypt, Road to El Dorado, and Sinbad Legends of the Seven Sea is Dreamwork's 2D animated magnum Opus trilogy.
Joseph: King of Dreams faired even worse than Sinbad, which is heartbreaking considering it’s a very good movie that never got the attention The Prince of Egypt did
DId you just forgot Spirit?
Hybrid it's a 2d animation with 3D backdrops
Idr this movie is this a part of the Mandela effect lol it look some what like prince of egypt animation
I feel like Sinbad would have done much better if it had released in 2021, people are a lot more open to more nuanced, mature animation than they were before, and most of that stigma is (hopefully) gone.
There’s still the handful of parents out there that don’t look into the things that they let their children consume.
I saw an interesting take on video games becoming more mature (like with zelda twilight princess, etc) and I think it also applies to animated movie.
So basically, early on in video games (and animated films) the majority of the audience was children. Which means for a more mature version to hit the same kinds of numbers, that audience needs to age up into it. So a mature version would likely only be successful 20-30 years after it is a big boom for kids. I think that is the case here and supports what you are saying. Now there are alot of people in their 20-40s that grew up watched animated films, so more mature and nuanced versions have a large audience to tap into.
That's unlikely.
I miss old dreamworks 2d animated movies, Sinbad being my fave. The animation is just so smooth and expressive, Eris' hair animation will forever be stunning.
The animation for eris alone deserved an Oscar, I couldn’t find the name of the ones who actually animated her but she is by far one of the most mesmerizing characters in an animated medium, every moment she’s on screen is sheer animation eye-candy
Dan Wagner was the Supervising Animator
Man that movie made me confused as a kid, having to have a crush LITERALLY on everyone in it made me realize a lot of stuff (especially Eris
Oof yes. As a bi my awakening was this movie and The Mummy 😂
Eris is definitely the crazy kind of hot lol.
You missed out on some details that are still vivid in my memory from childhood - like the fact that Sinbad left Syracuse to become a pirate when he saw Proteus's arranged fiancée out of jealousy and that was his whole backstory, or the fact that Eris framed Sinbad BECAUSE she knew Proteus would demand the right of substitution (it was Proteus she wanted dead, not Sinbad), or the fact that that guy telling the other guy to pay up was a RECURRING gag. One thing I do NOT remember is the arctic scene, I'm totally drawing a blank there, it doesn't even look familiar - my brain says that they went from the anglerfish straight to the edge of the world. In any case, I do remember loving this movie, like Treasure Planet and Atlantis, and definitely put in the same category as those movies.
This movie was my entire childhood, thanks so much for covering it. It definitely deserves more love.
Treasure planet was peak though 😭😭
Okay but the Atlantis movies too, absolutely gorgeous animation and creative character designs 😭
Titan A.E. was peak with it's CGI backgrounds in space 3 years before Treasure Planet @@cassiethehuman5597
How ironic that Dreamworks made something so risky back in the day and now their newest movie was the safest movie they ever made.
You can see where the inconsistency that continues to haunt the company started.
Illumination have the safest movies ever right now.
@@Zaslanetz You're so pretty true. They have some good movies but they rarely make any new or original ones.
I love the road to El Dorado😩
movie on repeat religiously
Oh, hell yeah, it's one of my favourite Dreamworks movies! Being reviewed by the Pig himself
This and Corpse Bride are Love Triangles done right in my opinion.
Sinbad is one of my favorite animated films, the action the characters and the adventure is just incredible. Personally it has one of the best romances. And yes Eris
Eris was the first crush ever I had on an animated character lol. The animators definitely knew what they were doing.
I remember that when I was 6 I would watch this and treasure planet on loop until the cassettes didn't work properly.
Hi ,i'm from the places sinbad story is made ,this adaptation toned down the story SOOOOOOOMUCH
-Sinbad is not a pirate,but a merchant from bagdad,the story started as him eyeing a ship that was about to sail and they were delivering goods to sell ,so he decides to join them to you know get some money ,so uh the thing backfired badly ,and none survived outside of him ,yeah his first adventure was him in a near death experience
-the gaint bird pokemon is actually a gaint Phoenix(or not i don't remmber)the story is so good and is my favorite ,sinbad landed in an island full of gaint gems ,he took opportunity to take them but the brid eats these gems so the bird accidentally took sinbad to his nest ,i can't describe in details the stakes but after another near death experience he managed to take the bird's egg and escape
-there is also another story that i like of him also experiencing a live threatening situation with a one eyed cyclop that eat humans ,it wasn't in the movie (it's gory but not really)it's also my favorite
-there's alot of stories about sinbad and in alot of them people don't really survive, and i don't think there was a story like the one in the movie ,the stories could be material for so many sequels (sindbad is really the og Indiana jones before IndianaJones)i hope you go read them yourself ,(sorry for the rant i just love his stories, and this dreamworks ver was my childhood crush 😂)
If I remember right, there should be like 7 stories about Sinbad in the 1001 Nights stories
It's so rare to see 2D animated films these days now. I really miss traditional hand drawn animations, and it was DreamWorks last 2D animated film.
The amount of times I watched this on VHS when I was a kid I’m surprised the tape didn’t go bad. The monster designs in this movie were my inspiration to become an artist too, *god* they’re so cool looking
"after rain there's Thunder!" and i started 💩 myself
Titan A.E. failing was a tragedy, because not only was it not a bad movie (it's flawed, but not bad), but it also killed Don Bluth's career, and I absolutely love Don Bluth films, with The Land Before Time in particular being one of my comfort movies. Atlantis is probably one of my favorite animated Disney films, so that movie being a failure was also a travesty. And Road to El Dorado? Probably one of the funniest and most quotable animated films, period.
I feel like we as an audience were needlessly harsh on animated films that came out at this time. I'm not sure what it was around 2000-2003 that caused so many animated films to flop, but I guess audience tastes were more towards live action at the time since it was mostly adults going to see movies and animation was seen as only for kids at the time. It's only now that the kids of the time have grown up that these movies are getting recognition for actually being good.
Wouldn't put TItan AE on this list. Also the kids who grew up with those movies now praising them could easily be a case of nostalgia.
@@fightingmedialounge519 It could, and in some cases (hello, The Grinch, my favorite Christmas movie ever) it most definitely is, but in many cases the younger generations are watching these films on recommendation from older fans and realizing that they actually are really good too. Back when the movies came out though, everyone was into big live action blockbusters like The Matrix or CGI films like Toy Story 2 because it was a newer animation style most people hadn't seen to death yet (don't get me wrong, both are good movies too), and it was hard for a traditionally animated film to get any notice because of it.
What about "remastering" movies? These titles that flopped, polish anything that looks rough, i.e. improve the CGI and add deleted scenes that could expand world building and characters. Longer runtime but profitable for new and old generations
A few things: the book seems to act like the Atlantis heart. No light = no crops = starvation. The plan was to have the prince die and send the city into chaos. The main villain knew Sinbad would plan to run away. He was going to go to Fiji.
People: Kids' movies don't have deaths.
Tell that to Bambi, Elsa, Simba, etc, etc, etc.
I was OBSESSED with this move as a kid. Honestly, if they could’ve profited off of the amount of times, I watched that VHS tape they would’ve easily made box office because it was ridiculous how many times I’d watch that movie a day
It would have been cool if at each challenge Eris gave them, one of the crew members died, like a main crew member and when they finally encounter Eris for the final boss battle, she reanimates those crew members and Sinbad has to face each one (or just creates a fake body like she did when she disguised herself as Sinbad, because I don't know how well "puppeting a dead corpse" would go down with test audiences). Whether it be in a physical showdown or a psychological battle of wills and overcoming guilt, having Sinbad face his crew, his friends, that died on a quest that could have been avoided if he chose differently would have been a HUGE emotional climax for the movie. You get the character deaths, you get the emotional growth, you get a completion of character arches, you get DEPTH of characters and get to see just how connected they were. That would have been cool.
This movie introduced me to Michelle Pfeiffer like her voice alone made me love her
If this movie was made Today not the 2000s because everyone was on the 3D computer animated films like Toy Story A bug life and more and because their isn't in Western Animation fully 2D Animation it would be good or make Headlines like Klaus did for Netflix ❤❤ Good Video keep up the Great Work ❤
Probably not.
You should watch the short film called Gruff. Its a movie made with stop motion and paper.
Could you do a video on Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron? Its an older dreamworks movie that is just beautiful with a combination of 2D and cg animation with a story showing how colonization affected native Americans.
Also make sure to not watch Spirit: Riding free unless you want to do a comparison, cause the newer Spirit movie is literally just your typical horse girl movie.
I’ve never forgotten about Sinbad, I still have my DVD for it
the absolute swerve the movie threw me into when Sinbad answered Eris’s question shook me so hard as a kid. i can agree that this movie could have higher steaks of death like Atlantis or Treasure Planet but at the same time i think the sudden change in Sinbad kind of makes up for it.
Still waiting for spirit stallion of the cimmarron😢
I think that there is more depth to the love triangle that people may think. Sinbad told Marina that despite Proteus being a prince he never felt jealous of him. Until she came to Syracuse, admitting that he's always loved her and he'd leave rather than losing his friendship with Proteus.
Sinbad accidentally defeating a God is very fitting for a famous pirate ☠
The main romance of the movie isn't between Sinbad and Marina, it's the bromance of Sinbad and Prince Proteus. Sinbad's character arc is realizing that he loves his friend so much that he is willing to give up his life, and the woman he loves, for Proteus. Proteus sees that and gives up his engagement with Marina (who he kinda likes) because he loves Sinbad too.
This movies is still entertaining, because I completely missed a bunch of double innuendos as a kid. "Put a shirt on before you poke someone's eye out" makes me still cackle, it's so good, way too underrated and I was OBSESSED with Eris because of this movie. Probably a very boomer thing to say but they don't do movies like this anymore, don't remember when was the last time I got excited about movie premier
Eris didnt want Sinbad to die, she wanted Proteus to die, because stealing the book actually didnt do anything, but the consquence of the heir to the kingdom dying would have left it in chaos. I think there was probably a reason for the book that we the audience never got to see because the film was cut back a lot, it seems like all of the backstory that didnt fit into 3 second expositional dialog was cut, which is a huge shame because those small pieces of story would have turned it from a good film to a great one. Still love it tho!
Dude, Eris was probably the first time I cracked a fa-
No light = no crops. They were starving.
Enjoying the obscure film reviews. You need to review the Bionicle Trilogy. It's so weird and so interesting.
my head canon is that Proteus just has a massive crush on Sinbad
The irony of 2D losing space almost entirely to 3D is that I'm sitting here with Blender trying to make my models look as close to 2D as possible. I understand how 3D makes things easier, but the aesthetic of 2D is just so beautiful to me.
idk how common a thought this is (I'm also only 5 minutes into the video so maybe he brings this up at some point) but hear me out-
This movie would've worked WAY better as an animated series.
A colorful cast of characters? Check.
A menagerie of menacing monsters? Check.
It would also help with continuity errors such as the ship being damaged and repaired offscreen and between scenes, because there'd actually be time to explore those down moments a bit further!
Thoughts?
I remember watching Sinbad in high school at some point and I completely forget why we would’ve watched that in class
I feel you on the death thing. No consequences = no stakes
Throwback to me watching Punisher, then watching Thor Ragnorok. You see where I'm going with this.
Love the plantrum music playing in the background bringing be back to the good old days of lbp 2
I loved that movie. Whenever I woke up, I’d just pop it in the VHS and set it to loop, and I’d sit and watch for hours.
We need to see pig collab with Kurtis Conner for a movie review. That’d be dope
Another great flick you should cover that nearly bankrupted their company is "Rock & RUle", by Nelvana Corp. They botched the advertising campaign and only advertised it in 2 Northern United States (One of which I believe was Montana) and parts of Canada. It has, since it was put on youtube from an old VHS rip, gained a huge following. With the voices of Lou Reed, Music by bands like Debby Harry, Earth Wind, and Fire, it's like....if Disney met Heavy Metal Magazine.
THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS! This was my all time favorite movie as kid
Love, Death, Robots is probably the closest thing you’ll find these days. It’s a great show you should look at!
Also I thought they were talkin about Syracuse, New York when I was a kid so what do I know.
So glad to see this film finally get the recognition it deserves. I grew up watching this on repeat, and saw it again recently. It still totally holds up
I grew up on sin bad eldorado and things like the iron giant. I am so glad i did
Me, too.
This movie (Along with Shrek and Road to El Dorado) was a family favorite growing up. I believe I still own my childhood VHS, but seriously, this movie is fantastic and always a joy to watch, it's a shame it flopped so hard
This was my favorite movie as a kid and I still love it. I've seen it multiple times and the different 'bosses' are so amazing! Maybe death would habe made it better but as a kid I really liked it that no-one died. I still think that choise was okay.
When i was a kid and saw this movie my opinion hasn't changed a bit about the movie, i still love it, and it's definitely a fun movie, but now as an adult i can see what things were missing in the movie, to make it from a 6.5/10 to an 8.5 or 9 /10.
1. Minimum extra half hour of time for the movie to add necessary things.
2. In the opening parts of the movie, add a few more words about that Book of Peace to have a bigger hint for the importance of that book, and later to get more details during the king's speech in Syracuse about the events that made this book so special to these kingdoms, and why the book changes residence between those united kingdoms that the book protects.
3. That at the beginning of the movie Proteus says more about his friendship between him and Sinbad, so that we know why it means so much to him, and not just "a long time ago we were wants friends", and they act like they haven't seen each other for a week, and when Sinbad is coming to Syracuse we should see a flashback of him and Proteus when they were friends, just making that connection that they didn't explain well enough in the movie, and that Sinbad doesn't remember why he left his friend, and he says this to Kale before they sailed close to Syracuse, that it was a long time ago, and later a few hours (of course their hours) in the movie that Marina is coming to Syracuse with her escort, and during the evening Proteus would like to introduce Sinbad to her, like in the movie, and that is when Simbad remembers, in that moment why he left in the past.
4. That the disappearance of the Book of Peace show that it has more visible consequences, which can be shown more and that it should be more emphasized, why the Book of Peace is so important, and that for example, the problem of the book must be solved quickly, and that they can give simbad only 10 days, because in order to possibly find a replacement for the book, they need to do preparations, and that 10 days is the most they can give.
5. Eris definitely could have had more scenes, and we could have seen more of her personality that they decided to cut, and of course there should be some human victims in the movie, so that the risks and attention were really noticed more, and the best places for this would be with the sirens and with that white bird.
If those things were changed and added to the movie it would really be a much better movie, although that's just my opinion, if anyone wants something to just then add it, or what you don't agree with? I'm really interested in other people's opinions and how you feel about my opinions?
Say what you want about the narrative, but the score of “Sinbad” is incredible. Eris’ theme, the siren’s song, lighting lanterns. I unironically listen to the “Sinbad” ost often.
This movie is my childhood!!!!! I'm so glad you made a video on it to share with everyone!!
Rumour has it Jeffrey Katzenberg still gets triggered to this day if anyone mentions this movie in his presence.
I have Treasure Planet and Titan A.E on dvd, I will not rest until I have the collection.
The bird is a Roc. I grew up on the 1992 Golden Films Sinbad.
Can you please do a video on “The Secret of the Magic Gourd”.. love your vids
Child me used to confuse Sinbad with El Dorado ALL the time
Love your work. Keep it up you unsung hero🤷🏽♀️✨
What do you mean one of my favorite childhood movies was a flop?? I would watch this every week with my brother
HELL YEAH! I literally adored this movie as a child and still love it as an adult. Especially all the scenes with eris and the sirens, so beautiful!
20 seconds ago is crazy
I've been WAITING for the day for you to cover this masterpiece. The fact that this bombed at the box office is literally criminal. The 2D animation is so gorgeous and while the story is kind of basic it's still kind of refreshing to see this kind of familiar plot line. Also yes, Sinbad and Proteus' relationship is SO queercoded.
No it isn’t
This movie and Treasure Planet is one of my favourite animated movies and Sinbad is the best Pirate type movie (other than POTC).
This is literally one of my favorite animated movies to ever exist. And brad pitt is awesome so. Its from a time where there was a lot of major gem animated movies that no one watched. Go watch dead space and dantes inferno as well. Both hose movies made like $11 and theyre amazing
Sinbad is in my top 10 animated films because it is a perfect adventure, the characters are great. Sinbad and marinas romance is one of my favorites as well
I remember this movie, still love it. Amazing characters, animation and soundtrack. As a kid, I absolutely LOVED Michelle Pfeiffer as the antagonist she was one of my favourite villains even as a kid. I’m still obsessed with Eris because she scared me but I also love her character.
If you haven't already, check out the 2D animated Clone Wars series from the 2000s. The most adrenaline-inducing on-screen Star Wars experience any kid from that time has ever seen to date.
I wanted Marina’s winter coat SO BAD as a kid 😭
Am I the only one who has notifications on for your videos and I just don’t get notified when you upload??
'You don't care about what my opinion on what these movies are ranked on'
But I do care. Your opinion is just as important. Keep finding the good movies and tell it to those big execs to stop making sequels!
YESSSS, A PIG VIDEO, TODAY WE WIN!!!
Bro I wish they went all Arabic on this movie like come on Sinbad is from Baghdad in Iraq I wanted to see how they would handle the story in a more accurate setting Iraq is known for Aladdin(علاء الدين) and Sinbad(سندباد) and Ali baba(علي بابا) (not sure about Ali baba though) but the movie is good not saying that its bad but I want to see more Arab storys in anmeshon we do have good story's they would be really interesting to see on screen.
This movie, along with Treasure Planet, are the 2 most-remembered/loved movies from my childhood. If they were going to make a live-action remake that's true to the original, I would buy out the theater and give away tickets just to spread the love around
I adored Sinbad as a little girl. He was one of my earliest fictional crushes.
The original script for this movie was WAYYYY better then some of things we got in terms of relationships
“Uh-raybic” 😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Shit I thought it was just me that heard it 😂🤣
i have been waiting 7 years for someone to make a video about this movie, one of my favorite movies
I mostly remember the scene of the sirens like grinning at Marina and how much it freaked me out. Crazy what things end up sticking in your mind
i still love that movie i wish dreamworks draw in that style again i love animations
I loved this as a kid 👏🏼I’m so glad you hilariously covered it 😂
Hey Pig, hug fan of your content.
Another great hidden gem I don't hear anyone talking about is, Fern gully: the last rainforest
I could be wrong, but I think the giant bird is called The Roque.
Omg yes! You have no idea how long I spent my life telling people that Sinbad is a gem and certainly not one of dreamworks “worst”movies. It’s been a big favorite of mine and I’m glad people are finally realizing that 😭 The soundtrack for this film lives in my head rent free ❤
I would like to see him review Anastasia.
Unironically think this is the best animated movie ever made.
I personally hate the wasted potential of these characters. I also would love a take where Sinbad ends up with his best friend, rather than his best friends, arranged fiancé. They had way more chemistry.
I havent thought about this movie in probably 10 years, this was one of my absolute favorite movies as a kid I remember watching it so many times over. I was and still am a sucker for pirate themes, this movie might be the reason why my dream job as a kid was a pirate. I'm not usually the type to leave comments but this video unlocked a part of my brain and that made me happy lol. Love ur content especially all the videos about early 2000's animation, keep it up mr. Pig
When the thumbnail popped up on my feed, I had a heart attack thinking your bun was a faux hawk. I was like "NO, PIG! ITS NOT WORTH IT!"
The name of the ice bird is called an Anka, pretty much an ice phoenix, and I don’t blame you for calling it a Pokemon since it’s pretty much Articuno, the best of the trio (no, I won’t hear anyone out because you’re wrong).
That aside, yeah the movie remains flawed, but I thoroughly liked it and it was a wonderful movie with plenty of room for sequels. It’s a shame that this was the era when people were switching to crappy 3D animated and Pixar movies. It worked well for Dreamworks, but from Disney I’ve refused to pay and watch any of their 3D trash (with the exception of Tangled).
These movies were my childhood😢
I'm glad im not the only person to like this film! This was a big part of my childhood!
As a child I had a crush on Proteus, cringe but justified, Sinbad had to go through a whole arc to get to where Proteus already was.
Back when DreamWorks actually fking tried..