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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- Hey guys!! This is Episode 3 in the new CVSS series.
Episode 1: Barbra Streisand • Is Barbra Streisand TH...
Episode 2: Lara Fabian • Is Lara Fabian THE BES...
Episode 3: Ariana Grande • Is Ariana Grande THE B...
CVSS Workshop: cvssworkshop.freeforums.net/
My Instagram: @camden.epperson
A major thank you to @Diego_Santa for supplying 99% of the notes in this video and doing so in so little time. You're the reason this is such a long video! This took so long to make, but I am so happy with the result and I hope you are too.
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▬ Contents of this video ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
0:00 - Intro
1:06 - Belted Notes
29:18 - Low Notes
39:08 - Head Voice
42:47 - Whistle Notes
42:56 - Agility
45:53 - Breath Management
47:24 - Vocal Control
53:53 - (Lack of) Vocal Issues
54:05 - Vocal Quality
54:16 - Vocal Effects
55:56 - Results
57:23- Outro
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Someone showed me a love A2 from Barbra (very weak) so her score goes from 117.5 to 117.75! Also, Jessie J will be next as Beyoncé isn’t quite finished, but Bey should come after Jessie if she’s ready.
Lol the situation is basically:
Barbra: Gets half a point taken off for previous miscalculation
Lara (rises another spot): =D
Also Barbra: Earns half a point for discovery of new notes
Lara (drops to her former spot): =/
Do Christina I can help out since they underrate her and disregard what she has done
@@yousifdiwan5720 I think there's someone doing a research on Christina according to the ProBoards forum, you can click the link in the description and message them so you guys can find and compile the clips of her vocal performances together
@@strandedtraveller1038 thx for this
for celine when you do.. agility chest th-cam.com/video/jWMUJXnVD7M/w-d-xo.html
I know this woman by the legendary "Hero Lives Forever" performance
That was lipped as many people saying.
@@presidentpresident9200 still legendary
Ikr it was amazing
I wanted to include it but it was heavily copyrighted :(
@@presidentpresident9200 They said it cuz she had ease in all the upper belts. Tjey wanted her to seem forcing
it's cool how she supports a thin sound without masking her voice or cracking. Also her compression techniques are impressively hard to achieve yet she does it better than any professional classical or rock singer
yes it has a fine sound I think but while having a dark tone. this is quite surprising because often the dark tones have thick sound, on their chest voice: like houston or fabian
I just can´t understand the dislikes. A wonderful Video Camden. Vanessa is really outstanding and unusual.
Thank you!
Vanessa is really one of the greatest 💅🏻
Waiting the cvss for Beyoncé, Demi, Sohyang and Tori Kelly!
Beyoncé next!
@@CamdenE who r u
@@Gisaround hes the creator of this video...
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@@DarielAndre girl i know 💀
*Best Vocalists in the World!*
She's definitely in that league and amongst the very top 👑
She does things with her voice that most vocalists can't even fathom doing! 🎸
And quite well-rounded as a vocalist.
I get that her timbre can be quite polarizing but once you listen to her more and acquire a taste for it, it's so entrancing (low-key moreso than the usual timbres that are usually promoted in pop music/mainstream music).
So glad that she didn't lose herself in the music industry 🙏
I must say, your CVSS videos are impressively exhaustive;
I think 🎶 _absolutely everybody_ 🎶 can agree with that!
Firstly, I love the pun, secondly I totally agree with you, although the reason why she went silent in mainstream music here in Aus after 2011 is because she actually did get lost, she herself said she felt that she wasn't enjoying it because everything was too generic and she didn't know what to write, that's why she started dipping her toe into music in the US and came across Dave Stewart. He's basically the best thing that's happened to her music career, she's not afraid to put her all into everything now and it shows by how much she experiments now.
Not entirely sure why she went silent in 2014, it's probably because she met her husband Rod Busby, then she had Killian in 2016. It takes time to know how to juggle parenthood and a music career, she took a while to start coming back. I really feel she's entering an entirely new era in her music career that will last quite a while, she's slowly getting her voice back after 5 years of not gigging. We're seeing a new Vanessa and I really like it, she may not be able to go crazy with the A5 sustains and whatnot but she makes up for it in the amount of passion she puts into her singing.
@@ZacharyT94 😅 I couldn't resist using that pun. That song leaves an earworm!
I should've specified: When I mentioned that I'm glad she didn't "lose herself", I was referring to the tragic manner celebs lose themselves eg. how many celebs' lives are cut short, how many become addicted to drugs, are "suicided"/"accidented", the esoteric symbolism they end up promoting, selling their souls etc.
You've imparted a lot of insight about her, thank you. And ultimately, it was leading yo that path. I'm so glad she left when she did.
Please did that absence affect her status or is she regarded as a Legend in Australia?
@@GarageStudio7 Unfortunately she's not really classed as a legend here, but pretty much no one popular after the 80s has been considered a legend here. Not many people here know of her except those that had at least some interest in her work
Your puns are back!! 😂😂
Glad you seemed to enjoy the video and I’m super excited that I’m actually confident of these videos and proud of it, as well as enjoying the process :)
@@CamdenE You have created a unique and thorough system in the vocal community 👏
My main question now is, when do you get time to sleep 😴
Her friend/mentor, musician and producer Dave Stewart (Eurythmics) said she's one of the best singers in the world. I'd agree with that :)
A true spinto sized voice; most of her highs aren't even her singing in true forte and the weight is still there. Most soprano's have to attack the note to the point of distortion to sound big and here's Vanessa singing moderately loud and cutting through the instrumental like she's milking cows
At the 50:58 clip it’s crazy how she overpowers BOTH guitars when she belts
@@Diego_Santa This is one of the few rare occasions where she's not holding back and the sound is huge. If she sang like this with a mic it'd have to be a mile away lmao
@@Diego_Santa Considering an acoustic guitar will usually average around 70-85db, she's gotta be around the 85-95db, possibly up to 100db peak, that's classical level loudness, I'm surprised she hasn't blown out her own eardrums 😂, the astounding thing is that she has had 0 formal training and I will never be able to get over that.
@@ravindra7206 I've seen her live and she somehow doesn't hold back in terms of what she does, but she still holds back the volume so she doesn't blow out a speaker, she's absolutely insane, I honestly think that when she uses a mic she has the gain down super low, hence why she basically kisses the mic when she sings most of the time.
@@ZacharyT94 considering dramatic voices can get up to 105db, it wouldn't be surprising if she'd be approaching that volume. If I was sound tech I'd turn her mic the hell down too 😂. You're so lucky to have seen her live, I bet she sounds even more amazing in person
Wow, Vanessa! Her score in this new system is considerably higher than in the previous one. 😍
As what I have said in the other video, I'll add 2 points to her overall score because for me her vocal quality is 10/10. 😉
I know Beyoncé is next, but I can't wait for Céline's CVSS! I think both of them will give Vanessa a run for her money. Oh, and So Hyang too!
Her range is mind blowing, incredibly versatile voice, she has done anything from pop/rock/ blues/funk/dance/RnB/country,/swing . . . Honrstly i said this from the first time i saw her live when she was 19 up until now and 10 plus live shows ive seen since, you really need to hear her live to appreciate her insane vocal ability, its other worldly
Amazing video and amazing vocalist!!
I would put most of the C5s and C#5s you say grounded to ringing, and some Eb5s you say ringing to grounded.
I'm waiting for my Queen,Celine Dion.
Thank you for this excellent work of comparing Vanessa to some of the most accomplished female singers in history! s you have discovered; Vanessa is beyond compare! I thought that of her watching her at the Sydney 2000 Olympics and nothing has changed my mind!
For some reason, I can't access the premiere chat :(
All edits/updates here!!
@@colintravers481 I made the intro first and forgot to update the scores oops
@@colintravers481 the outro score is accurate though!
The videos that were marked as “POSSIBLY NOT LIVE” were all live.
Wow she is one amazing musician
AMAZING!
Her head notes from I Wanna Be Your Everything are pretty incredible. I think there’s still some videos out from years ago that feature her doing it live.
I honestly adore Vanessa’s aggressive approach to singing, but i struggle to find performances of hers that i haven’t seen, if somebody can tell me what channel i can check out please, she’s so amazing and i want to hear all of her performances (Or hopefully most of them) from this video, it’s very refreshing to see a female singer with a unique style of singing when most of them are singing commercial music and most of them even have the same tone lol
Vanessa’s singing is like i hidden gem that deserves to shine and get all the recognition of this world 👏🏻
You can find my full research on her voice on the CVSS website
I can't wait till she can start singing live again with her new album
21:27 the G#6 overtone she's insane
Diego_Santa thank you for help, I love the voice of Vanessa Amorossi
It was a pleasure researching her!
@@Diego_Santa 💙❄️ and a pleasure watching the video of course
Her growls give me life 😃😃 especially 54:55💜💜 Amazing
46:47 i- Who let the dogs out
Demons in Hell's fire be like
mwah
I'm waiting for Mariah carey. Pls fast
I was playing a game of cars in my cellphone, and the sound of the car reminded me of the upper mixed voice of Vanessa, I'm saying it in a good meaning
NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOO NO, I TAKE IT ALL ABOUT ME TO MY HEART
PLLZZZ😂😂😂
Is the lyrics correct lol
She’s I my favourite artist ever, so I’m biased , but she can sing better than most!!! And she is an adorable woman, I have met her several times and she is very humble!!!!
I knew she was going to score very high. She is amazing. 132.25!!!. The Human Electric Guitar!
One of the best in the world. Best to come from australia in history and i happen to live 4 hours where she comes from. Seen her live 4 times
I'm waiting for Mariah, Whitney, Celine and Beyoncé videos! Love your work!
Nice!
I just finish the video and I have mad respect for her am actually a fan this video was perfect and I really enjoyed watching all of it the time thought and everything was well put together I really appreciate it STILL WAITING ON A CVSS FOR DIMASH THAT WOULD BE AMAZING I KNOW HE IS NOT EVERYONE CUP OF TEA BUT AM SURE HE WOULD SCORE OVER A 100 EASILY HE MOST LIKELY WOULD PASS OUT ARIANA GRANDE.
What's the technically best B6 in whistle voice in your opinion?
Where can I find this full show? 18:44
Pls make a vocal analysis of Sohyang!! Love your channel
YOU MUST DO AN EPISODE OF RACHELLE FERREL SHES AMAZING, i love your content :3
Also an episode of MONICA NARANJO please (sorry for yelling😂 I really love your method to rate singers)
Yes she is!!!!!
impressive her score. she will have a powerful voice on fairly high notes with a lot of chest ............, in France we do not know her too much
very good job than CAMDEN the boss of the WORLD ^^
Thank you!!!
BTW She uses different kinds of distortion: Creaking and False chord to great effect - they should be counted/scored individually
These are produced in completely different ways (one on the Lvl of the vocal folds themselves, one with the false chords)
The coordination is different too.
In one of the clips she also definitely does a squall, not regular distortion.
Maybe she should get even more points 😅
Falcon Soprano 😍 I Love Her Voice, So Unique
@@vi0lee 😨 i'm crying
Spinto
@@pebbie363 spinto's voice isn't dark and have weight?
Ive heard that she is supposed to be a falcon, a term that I didnt know until then, for quite a few years, then everyone is saying that falcon does not exist, Im a bit confused.
@@iagotorres8903 me dê uma bitoca e deixe esses gringo bobão falando sozinho 😗
Wow, she scores 10 points higher than my initial expectations! I totally underestimated her agility (didn't even realize how fast some of her best runs are). She has freedom from C#3-C6-C#6 which is really impressive (my favorite signature notes of hers might be E3 and G5). Vocally she's one of the best female singers in pop / rock today but sadly she's so underrated to an international audience.
P.S. The way Beyonce is gonna outshine everyone in terms of full free range (Bb2 - G#5 - E6) got me panicking 🙈🤫
@@blackmamba3429 Yeah, freedom ain't everything.
I can't wait for Whitney's video
Me too
Me tto! Also someone it's making a rare vidoe of whitnye's range(i helped with clips) And there are some rare notes including an F7 :)
Could you do the CVSS of Melonie Daniels- Walker who used to be the vocal coach of Mariah Carey? I believe that she will rank the first. Her ringing/grounded vocal range is out of the world😱.
I think Melonie's grounded vocal range is A2-Bb5-Bb5.
Her agility is 🔥🔥
Shizzz, 1hour but super worth it 😉
I'm really glad that your analysis includes and gives score for vocal effects which is mostly ignored by most of those 'experts' here.
Most of the usual suspects can only growl or go airy as an effect, or maybe do some vocal fry a la Britney Spears.
Distortion, rattle, creaking, screams, grunts etc all need a good amount of technique to execute them well.
But Mariah and Whitney don't use them, so they don't count I guess...
As someone mentioned below: 'Learn to sing on your interest and not on your capital' (Leontyne Price).
When are we getting Demi's ?
Soon!
I wanna see Sohyang 😍 and Floor Jansen 😍
Beyonce? Beyonce? Beyonce? (she's my favorite singer of all time so I am pumped). I think Bey will get 1st and stay there for a long time (140-150 points if not MORE).
This video was great. Didn't expect Vanessa to place in first, but I can see why. She is so underrated with her vocals AND her music (stream the Blacklisted Collection for clear skin).
She will be next!
I think bey is around the same area as lara fabien
🎶🌻
The more and more I listened to her A5, it turned into 2 sounds, it seemed like it was a whistle sound? Why is that?
Overtones
I wasn't expecting the video to come out so soon! Also, does someone here know if the discord server still working??
Im really waiting for Beyoncé, Mariah, So Hyang and Morissette!
Does anyone have the link to 22:21? @diego_santa
th-cam.com/video/snu5gAidZ_k/w-d-xo.html
Saw Vanessa perform when she was only 19. What a voice then & unreal now. I don't believe she has had any proper training vocally so this is all just her. Started singing in a polish restaurant as a young teenager in Melbourne, Australia where she is from. New stuff out now. Check her website.
Im watting sohyang
Wow!!! Vanessa Amorosi is incredible!!! I first discovered her back in 2010/2011. She has an incredible instrument! She deserves the title The Human Electric Guitar! She has such a powerful and metallic instrument. Her tone may be an acquired taste but her voice is so unique. Her voice is incredibly agile for it being a dark, heavy, and bigger soprano voice. Her lows are incredible, her mid belts are so powerful, and her upper belts/mix is so electric! Her head voice is not her strongest area but it's solid. A total free range of C#3~C6~C#6 is incredible!
Soprano Queen of Low Notes
Queen of Vocal Distortion
Queen of Stamina
Second Queen of G5 Belts
Queen of Upper Mixed Voice
I agree! She’s incredible.
@@subliminal5543 Let them believe what they believe. Keep in your mind that you're correct cus they will never know how the voice works cus they only extract their informations in youtube and doesn't come up in scientific evidences.
@@subliminal5543 I see you having your troll conversation with yourself right?
@@presidentpresident9200 You are a clear delusional, sociopathic, and psychotic troll having a conversation with yourself. So are you going to continue to switch accounts?
@@CamdenE There is a troll here with two accounts trying to gang up on me.
Excuse me, but in your sub-scores, you scored her a Zero for whistle notes. However this can not be correct, as already many years ago, I distinctly remember having read it mentioned, that she could sing in the whistle register, - which I'd never even heard of.
01:06 What's the title of this song please ?
What is wrong with me
37:12 37:34 37:48 37:52
132,25!!!! 🤯🤯🤯
i thought she was using balanced MV like SoHyang
43:00 What's this song please ?
Take me as I am
41:38
28:08 video PLEASEEEE!!!!!!!!!
th-cam.com/video/33T7IBkWWw0/w-d-xo.html
why the fight in the comments 😌
I love her sound up to eb5 especially her lows down to c3 but her sound drastically changes e5 and up, it sounds too masky for me... Still an amazing vocalist though.
It’s not mask. Mask would muffle her sound.
@@KajiVocals it does sound muffled up there..
@@margiemarge8898it doesn’t lol
@@margiemarge8898it doesn’t lol
34:22 34:34
When Monica Naranjo?
13:13 PLS LINKK I WANT TO LISTEN TO THAT PERFORMANCE ASAP
th-cam.com/video/V5iXVd50Sj4/w-d-xo.html there u go
I like Vanessa. Most of those who sing high are very intrusive and disgusting, Vanessa doesn't have that. I would not say that I can listen to it for at least twenty minutes in a row but sometimes you want something that fills the blood with adrenaline. By the way, an interesting fact about Barbra Streisand. She considers herself an actress in the first place and only in the second as a singer. Barbra herself said: "Singing is just a concomitant to acting". I was surprised that she considers herself an actress more than a singer.
Yeah! Cause she's like the most stable and consistent singer that ever existed.
@@joanquintero4670 I wouldn’t say that. People like Shirley Bassey, Kate Smith and generally more traditional singers (although also very demanding vocals I daresay) are way more consistent and stable because the style they are singing is rooted in vocal technique.
@@presidentpresident9200 ahm, I was talking bout Barbra Streisand xd
I think next will be Beyonce
Its jessie
I love her down boots but she’s not the best vocalist in the world but she definitely sits among the top
What is the song at 6:26
Home from Christmas
@@Diego_Santa thank you very much
Even tho she doesn't have a massive headvoice I still like her style with it
So her full grounded range is C#3 - C6 - C#6 according to you
Free* range not grounded
@@pebbie363 no, it says in the video (grounded)
38:12 here Camden claimed that the C#3 is grounded
@@vocalsvideos458 not included cuz she is barely gronded in it
@@badbada3003 but I said according to Camden, not according to me, read the first comment
Who's next? After this?
Beyonce!
@@CamdenE do you have a list?
Beyonce is a joke!
@@siem9329 go to his website and you will see the list
@@presidentpresident9200?
The most controversial cvss you'll be doing is dimash and mariah lol
good luck with that lol
Mariah will be fairly easy, it’s not hard to see where she’s tense. I hardly know Dimash though
@@N2RAreactswell... Yah
i guess..
Some people say she consistent with her F and F#
But some say shes not so....
That might be a controversy lol
@@N2RAreacts yes...
13:44
So basically “ringing”= resonance, “grounded”= support is present, “free”= decent vocal placement but not quite supported, and “tense/weak”= strain period.
Not exactly. Free has nothing to do with decent vocal placement. Free is exactly what it means in the word. Free means no unnecessary forms of strain, tension, and constriction. Vocal freedom is a better term than support. People misuse the term support. Support doesn't have a sound. It's a breath management technique. Grounded means singing with more core and depth. Not all grounded notes are free. Ringing has more to do with acoustic coupling and the formant. To be honest 90% of contemporary vocalists don't have a true 'ring' and it's not necessary for contemporary vocalists.
@@ThePianoguy89 a copy and paste from kaji. Yikes
@@loveyall1910 I didn't actually copy and paste him. I paraphrased what he said but I didn't actually copy and paste him so...
@@ThePianoguy89 Ring is a Squillo periodt!
I finally have another cellphone the other that I got, got damaged more than a week ago, I missed your channel and kaji's one so much, and the others too (I'm gay homeless with pink nails channel)
Awwwww I’m so happy to see that you’re back and I wish you the best ❤️❤️
@@CamdenE 💙❄️
@@CamdenE btw, I was thinking to do playback of my favorite vocalists on the streets to try to make some money to have a cellphone, and wouldn't be easy because there's almost no people here because of the partial quarantine here in Malaga and Andalucia
28:00 a bb5
i think we're all just waiting for sohyang
You do an amazing job with these vids, I can't imagine how long it must take you. Vanessa has crazy chops, talent, and dizzyingly impressive range. Fantastic low-mid register and tone....However (and this not hate*), I get that her style is on the edgy/rock side but even then, I find she often oversings to the point that it destroys the essence of the song. Also her upper belts are not my fav thing to listen to....she sounds extremely "pinched" (compressed), is often shaky, and even pitchy as you noted. Sometimes she honestly sounds like a cat dying in tune. She does deserve immense respect, but her vocal quality is not of legendary status in my opinion, and it may just be that you cannot quantify a legend with numbers. I don't believe it's entirely possible to do that.
(1) The human voice gets progressively 'uglier' the nearer one approaches the sixth octave (except in rare cases).
(2) Since contemporary music often emphasizes high notes and wide range more than they deserve to be emphasized, this score is understandable.
(3) This system, while well-researched, clearly caters to high notes and wide range and the current adoration of excess, along with the style(s) of singing that emphasize those. An Indian classical singer like Kaushiki Chakraborty, even though superior technically to any of these contemporary singers, couldn't possibly score as high due to that bias.
(4) All who adore high notes and wide range and vocal excess should listen to the advice (paraphrased) of the great operatic soprano Leontyne Price to sing "on the interest and not on the capital".
Whitney houston
ok so cvss video idea: Demi Lovato, SoHyang, Jennifer Hudson, Mariah obviously, and Lea Michele, that girl held an A4 for 30 seconds maybe more
Let's all gonna believe that Vanessa is 𝑩𝒆𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑺𝒖𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒐𝒓 than Barbara (Superior Technician)
It's because Barbra has a smaller range.
Can't award points for notes Barbara just plain can't hit.
@@hugooo1788 That's a complete bs
You don't know what you're talking about 🙄🤦☠️
@@XDF745 Barbara just plain can't hit 👀 🤦☠️ Barbara showcases mastery of dynamics. But go ahead continue being a 🤡
@@presidentpresident9200 don't be dumb you litterally saw their entire range in these two videos...
Lover her voice and technique but her tone isn't pleasing
especially when was trying to sing
*I will always love you*
5 dislikes by tone deaf ppl.
I can deal with the fact Ariana is so close to Barbra and Lara... This is so wrong 🤣
Anyways, Vanessa is a vocal monster. She is very well-rounded and has extreme vocals in almost every register.
Girl bye she is a great vocalist
@@ifyounotabarbzthenelectric8566 Not even near from the excellence of both Barbra and Lara
Ariana's voice wouldn't carry without a mic. She's absolutely a mosquito
@@presidentpresident9200 She's fully supported a D5 in a car just having fun🥴 Ain't no mosquito
@@renanrpmnot you saying Lara is excellent lol
how come she cant even revive song haha
I have a feeling Beyoncé and sohyang will come out on top