When I heard "I think the flip-book was made by a machine", and then "The flip-book was arranged by a wind, but a very special kind of wind that arranges flip-books in orderly manner" it immediately reminded me of the debate between William Lane Crag and Lewis Wolpert. Wolpert insisted that WLC's argument does not lead to God but to a very special Computer that is timeless, spaceless, immaterial and personal.
It seems to me, given your first alternative (the laws of nature necessitate some state of affairs), atheists could respond to this the way they do all fine-tuning arguments: a multiverse + the anthropic principle. I'm only at 50 minutes in. Perhaps you'll address this later. As an aside, they try to raise their priors with reference to things like inflationary theory.
If an outside agent could act upon this world at will, the assumption of regularity is silly. The last thing that would instantiate a predictable reality is a being with the exact attributes that could undo it at any moment.
Rather than sit on a chair and come up with fallacious philosophical arguments for god, shouldn't god let us know a bit more concretely that it exists?? I mean, apparently this god wants a relationship with us, but it surely hides itself really really reaaaaaaally well.
@@piage84You’re sitting on an arm chair as much as they are making arguments against God - and that’s fine just as it is for them to make arguments for God
Christians don't know when the Bible was written. Why? I am not asking you to believe me, but to think for yourself to discover the truth. Christians in christian countries that spend fortunes on public education don't know when the most influential book of all time was written. I bet if the pope was asked when the Bible was written he would not know the answer. Christians believe Jesus was recognized as the creator of the universe by humanity from birth since he was worshipped by the three wise men and shepherds in Bethlehem and he lived 33 years doing numerous miracles proving that in fact he was God. Do you find inconsistencies between history and the christian story? Would you memorize and understand a logical fallacy to preserve knowledge and not lie to innocent and vulnerable children? Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Future generations would understand, so why don't you? God is the first uncaused cause that the kalam cosmological argument talks about and if you don't know what i am talking about is because the cult deceived you manipulating the information to hurt you. What other explanation could there be?
When I heard "I think the flip-book was made by a machine", and then "The flip-book was arranged by a wind, but a very special kind of wind that arranges flip-books in orderly manner" it immediately reminded me of the debate between William Lane Crag and Lewis Wolpert. Wolpert insisted that WLC's argument does not lead to God but to a very special Computer that is timeless, spaceless, immaterial and personal.
That was hallarious.
Nice I was just checking this out recently on philpapers
I remember Tyler presenting this paper at a conference 3 years ago!
6:49 Good analogy
Good and bad are RELATIVE. 😉
Incidentally, are you VEGAN? 🌱
It seems to me, given your first alternative (the laws of nature necessitate some state of affairs), atheists could respond to this the way they do all fine-tuning arguments: a multiverse + the anthropic principle. I'm only at 50 minutes in. Perhaps you'll address this later. As an aside, they try to raise their priors with reference to things like inflationary theory.
9:40
"Other METAPHYSICIANS"? 🤔
You mean great SURGEONS? 😜
If an outside agent could act upon this world at will, the assumption of regularity is silly. The last thing that would instantiate a predictable reality is a being with the exact attributes that could undo it at any moment.
If you watch the video or read the paper, you'll find that they give reasons for thinking otherwise!
what kind of silly objection is that LOL
Rather than sit on a chair and come up with fallacious philosophical arguments for god, shouldn't god let us know a bit more concretely that it exists?? I mean, apparently this god wants a relationship with us, but it surely hides itself really really reaaaaaaally well.
How is it fallacious? Also many theist philosophers have discussed solutions to the problem of hiddenness
@@JudeLind it's easy to discuss. Much harder to actually find a solution that corresponds with reality
@@piage84 Sure but it’s bit rich coming from you here
@@JudeLind how come?
@@piage84You’re sitting on an arm chair as much as they are making arguments against God - and that’s fine just as it is for them to make arguments for God
Christians don't know when the Bible was written. Why? I am not asking you to believe me, but to think for yourself to discover the truth. Christians in christian countries that spend fortunes on public education don't know when the most influential book of all time was written. I bet if the pope was asked when the Bible was written he would not know the answer. Christians believe Jesus was recognized as the creator of the universe by humanity from birth since he was worshipped by the three wise men and shepherds in Bethlehem and he lived 33 years doing numerous miracles proving that in fact he was God. Do you find inconsistencies between history and the christian story?
Would you memorize and understand a logical fallacy to preserve knowledge and not lie to innocent and vulnerable children? Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Future generations would understand, so why don't you? God is the first uncaused cause that the kalam cosmological argument talks about and if you don't know what i am talking about is because the cult deceived you manipulating the information to hurt you. What other explanation could there be?
Abysmal argument insofar as divine action is no explanation at all. You’re just trading a physical brute fact for a supernatural one.
Are you a THEIST? 🤔
If so, what are the reasons for your BELIEF in God? 🤓
@@ReverendDr.Thomas Heavens no! I am an atheist. What gave you that idea?
Several independent brute facts are less parsimonious that multiple being all explained downstream from one thing
@@JudeLind Actually no, because that “one thing” is maximally complex.
@@brianholly3555 That’s not how that works