I like the way you did the stairs, attaching them behind the deck, also 2 2x4 at the bottom for staggered anchoring. Going to have to start using that method it looks a lot more secure.
I like that idea too however you need to be careful that you maintain your rise for every step otherwise you will have unsafe steps. For example if your rise is 7 inches with tread and your rim joist is 2 x 8 which is nominally 7 1/4 you will need to put a 1/4" notch into the top of the stringer so the end result is 7 inch rise for the top step.
I appologise. I took some bad editing advice on these deck videos. Thank you for lett me know. Its comments like this that help my editing journey, and provide better quality videos for everyone.
Afraid I would mess up my measurents, I waited till I had the frame up on the deck before I determined where my posts went for the landing. From there I used a stair calculator the determine where each step would be, and measured out from the deck. Knowing the run of each stair I new how far out the landing would go.
When I did the math for the stairs, I knew my runs would be 10 inches, and wanted the landing to be 4 steps down. So with that I knew how far away the landing needed to be. But I did wait to attach my landing to the beams until after I cut the stingers just in case there was any slight movement I needed to make.
I was using 2x8' for the majority, and 2x12' for the stair stringers. If you look up the spanning tables, you can see what size is needed for the span you are shooting for.
I picked them up from Home Depot. My store didn't have them in stock, but I was able to order them online. Look for "Simpson Strong Tie Adjustable Standoff Post Base."
I appologise. I took some bad editing advice on these deck videos. Thank you for lett me know. Its comments like this that help my editing journey, and provide better quality videos for everyone.
Like the content...........but hate the music blasting...can't you turn it down. There's no need to give us a concert...We're here to get deck building advice. Not trying to be an a$$...jus say'n
I appologise. I took some bad editing advice on these deck videos. Thank you for lett me know. Its comments like this that help my editing journey, and provide better quality videos for everyone.
your concrete pad was pretty ugly dude. I could clearly see the horrible broom finish! Please dont tell people thats a how to broom section because its NOT!
@@DIYDeclassifiedI heard what you said but that doesn't excuse poor workmanship! Then next time just cut it out of the video instead of embarrassing yourself with a very poorly finished concrete pad. Any customer I've worked for would have me rip that out and redo it.
@@rickhatesmisleadia7101 First: I’m not embarrassed by it at all, because it was my first time and I learned a lot from it. Second: I’m going to continue making videos and posting them, feel free to tear me up all you want.
@@DIYDeclassified I'm not tearing you up man! That pad is pretty bad and any respected concrete finisher would tell you the same thing. Actually, your video was pretty good except the pad portion which you could and should have edited out. I never once suggested you quit making video's so don't come at me with that but I would have replaced that pad and finished it properly. Show some respect for the trade. If I did a deck video and put and nasty knotted up board right in the middle of the deck, I would expect carpenters to criticize me :) You do you man....like I said it was a good deck video but the pad could have been left on the cutting room floor :) Nothin personal
You're gonna be a great building channel. I think you could get away with not even bothering to pick any background music too - you're entertaining / informative enough without any music. Wish you the best! Now...go make more videos! :)
Thank you. My goal is to grow this to one of the top DIY channels, but Im still figuring out all the editing. You are right, I think going forward Im going to remove the music, or keep it as such a low decible it isnt noticible.
You cut so deep into that top stringer to place it inside the deck. Are you not worried about it? I am presently in the process of building deck stairs, but I think I'll still surface mount it. Only problem is I'll have to add another ledger piece under the rim band as the stringers fall short. That might look bad. Lots of things to consider on these deck builds...
I'm a female and I'm going to try and do it myself but I am cheating and buying 4 or 5 stringers I'm not sure what I need yet all I know is the stairs are horrible in back to me very unsafe to narrow not wide enough won't let my grandchildren use them and my husband was never taught nothing as a child or teen his dad died as a little boy mom shortly after brothers didn't teach him shit and he has o patience and I mean o patience my dad taught me alot thru my years as a child and a adult so I am going to attempt this on my own
Interesting way to attach the stringers to the deck. Never seen that before. Only conserned would be how much of the 2x12 is left. Might be a weak spot? Here is a video that I made on how to build a composite staircase. th-cam.com/video/MkYkMQh6hP0/w-d-xo.html
I felt the same way. After talking with some local builders in my area that do this they "assured" me it would be fine since I set the 12 inches on center. Only time will tell. I do perform a spring inspection every year looking for splitting or signs of weakness. It's not always the best way, just another way.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I am doing this exact same build and was searching all over for a build showing how to measure/install with a landing in the middle. Great job.
Excellent, but I'm curious why you didn't just attach the platform to the posts instead of first attaching the cross members to the posts and then sitting the platform on top of that...? You'd use higher posts for that, of course, but it eliminates a step and would have the same structural integrity. Or so it seems to me. Thanks
I appologise. I took some bad editing advice on these deck videos. Thank you for lett me know. Its comments like this that help my editing journey, and provide better quality videos for everyone.
. My deck guy just walked off. I have been online all day and your video is just so awesome. You are an expert to me ! Simple and very Thorough even tips and tricks! Fucking Awesome! I hit the bell and Subscribed. Gidbless you! N keep up the great bideos my brother! Willie From Phillie!
Music is way too loud. It’s annoying do you have to turn the volume up and down when the music kicks in so that it’s not loud for everyone else in the house that’s trying to sleep. Also definitely not my choice of music but whatever
I appologise. I took some bad editing advice on these deck videos. Thank you for lett me know. Its comments like this that help my editing journey, and provide better quality videos for everyone.
Very nice content but I had to stop watching half way because of the annoying background music drowning out your words and the start of some sections seemed to be triple the volume of your dialogue. The absolute best videos I have seen have ZERO crap music.
Thank you for the feedback. You are not alone with your experience. I took some audio advice when I was editing this and it didn’t turn out for me. I think I got it figured out on my latest videos though.
I have a small home and need a compact stair case that allows us to go up stairs. Our current stairs are super narrow and has broken treads all the way up. I want to change it to a wider set of stairs with a smaller footprint. Thoughts?
you did good on this except your stinger material you should not have less than 5.5 inches of material remaining on teh heal edge if you have less than that it is always recommended to put a 2x6 runner on them to add extra support ..But I suggest using and most building codes require 2x12 for your stingers .. on your stingers you should add on the inside a 2x6 runner to add more support .. other than that you did pretty good and you can go with the material you used every 16 inches and any thing that contacts Concrete should always be Treated lumber
I see why you cut the top of your stringers like that as it makes it easy to attach them to your deck but it leaves you with very little wood to support the load. I would be concerned that once that treated lumber dries out, you are going to get cracking along the grain and possible failure down the road. I mount my stringers to the face, screw in from behind and then block between them and screw in from the side. Our runs are usually a bit longer than yours but don't underestimate the loss of integrity that treated lumber experiences over time. I have yet to be able to reuse a full set of stringers when replacing wood decks with composite. They always split along the grain.
Thank you for the advice. I will keep an eye out for splitting. I saw the idea from another contractor and loved the idea. But you are correct that there isn’t a lot of “meat” left on the stringer.
Just curious if the blocking you added to the stringers replaces the need for strong backs on the side of the stringers? I love the way you connected the upper stringers to the deck. I've never seen that before. Also I'm curious if you have or plan to have a video on how to properly install a handrail.
I can’t take the credit for the way I attached it. I saw another TH-camr do it and thought it looked way stronger than what I had originally planned. This summer I have plans to do a follow-up video of the deck where I will put in the hand rail, and address some other things I wish I did differently.
Thank you. Nice video. I was always under the impression that screws have much lower shear strength than nails, but I see you are using screws for structural components, many of which will experience significant sheer, where I would typically expect nails, such as joist hanger nails. What types of screws are you using in this case? I assume it is like a high strength structural screw?
You're right about the sheer strength, the screw will lose everytime. There was a shortage of materials when I built the deck so it was tough getting nails. I opted for construction screws. With the amount of screws going in each hanger, im not too worried about them breaking. Plus my area stays pretty dry year round so there isn't much wood movement. I would have definitely preferred nails though, those screws added so much time to the project.
Good work thanks for info and good vid. Lose the music. Working, narration, drill sounds and just getting the job done making progress is music to our ears. No music need
Sorry about that. Being my first videos I was trying to figure it all out. I think I’ve got it dialed in and will be working to replace the audio on these videos soon.
The way you did your upper set of stringers was awesome. Alot of deck stairs and hand railing fail over time because they aren't mounted inside the box joist like you did. Very good tip.
I cant take all the credit. I saw another TH-camr do this and thought it look SOLID. My only fear is that I should have used a wider board since I had to cut further into it. But with four stringers 12 inches apart, I think it should be fine.
Noticed you added a slope to the concrete pad. Did you also slope the deck? I’ve read so many conflicting views on whether a deck with composite boards (with gaps in between boards) should be sloped or not. Any help is greatly appreciated!
I did not slope the deck. I too saw many mixed reviews, and decided to keep it level. My thoughts on this, the composite boards I have already have a slight curve that will help push the water to the sides. Any water that does hang out, it’s going to do nothing to the composite boards.
Yes it should. When I purchased the lumber we were in the thick of the wood shortage a couple years ago, and we couldn’t get pressure treated lumber. Before I built the deck I sealed every board in my garage, and every spring I go out and re-coat them.
@@DIYDeclassified very nice build I’m getting ready to re-do the exterior stairs to my parents home. Would be interesting to see or hear an update on how the lumber has been holding up to the elements
Sorry for that. Being new to editing, I am still trying to figure out the right balance. I think until I do, Im just going to remove the music in future videos.
I like the way you did the stairs, attaching them behind the deck, also 2 2x4 at the bottom for staggered anchoring. Going to have to start using that method it looks a lot more secure.
Thanks man. We all learn by watching eachother.
I like that idea too however you need to be careful that you maintain your rise for every step otherwise you will have unsafe steps. For example if your rise is 7 inches with tread and your rim joist is 2 x 8 which is nominally 7 1/4 you will need to put a 1/4" notch into the top of the stringer so the end result is 7 inch rise for the top step.
Why do people always make the music loud then when they talk, turn down the volume? I'd rather listen to the instructions than the noisy music
I appologise. I took some bad editing advice on these deck videos. Thank you for lett me know. Its comments like this that help my editing journey, and provide better quality videos for everyone.
Totally agree on the music note. I had to stop watching especially since it was the same music. Great content though!
Exactly the video I'm looking for. Building a deck myself and wasn't sure about the landing for the stairs. Thanks man!
Glad I could help!
Like your work and presentation style
I appreciate that! I'm glad you like them.
Still would like to know the brand and color you picked for your decking boards
Sorry man, I am out of town for work. I was able to reply to your other comment.
Thank you for the videos!! How did you determine where to install the post holes for the landing platform support?
Afraid I would mess up my measurents, I waited till I had the frame up on the deck before I determined where my posts went for the landing. From there I used a stair calculator the determine where each step would be, and measured out from the deck. Knowing the run of each stair I new how far out the landing would go.
@@DIYDeclassified thank you for replying! I thought that would be the best way to do it.
I'm at the point of adding my stairs to the deck I'm building. How did you determine where the piers for the landing go?
When I did the math for the stairs, I knew my runs would be 10 inches, and wanted the landing to be 4 steps down. So with that I knew how far away the landing needed to be. But I did wait to attach my landing to the beams until after I cut the stingers just in case there was any slight movement I needed to make.
@@DIYDeclassified thank you!!
What dimension lumber are you using?
I was using 2x8' for the majority, and 2x12' for the stair stringers. If you look up the spanning tables, you can see what size is needed for the span you are shooting for.
what are the adjustable anchor and where you got them from?
I picked them up from Home Depot. My store didn't have them in stock, but I was able to order them online. Look for "Simpson Strong Tie Adjustable Standoff Post Base."
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Thank you.
Good content, but the music gets obnoxious after a while. Found myself turning down the volume whenever you weren't speaking.
I appologise. I took some bad editing advice on these deck videos. Thank you for lett me know. Its comments like this that help my editing journey, and provide better quality videos for everyone.
Annoying music
I didnt relize how off balance the music was while editing. Going forward Im thinking of just removing it all together.
Like the content...........but hate the music blasting...can't you turn it down. There's no need to give us a concert...We're here to get deck building advice. Not trying to be an a$$...jus say'n
I appologise. I took some bad editing advice on these deck videos. Thank you for lett me know. Its comments like this that help my editing journey, and provide better quality videos for everyone.
your concrete pad was pretty ugly dude. I could clearly see the horrible broom finish! Please dont tell people thats a how to broom section because its NOT!
I literally said “this is my first time doing something like this.” And I didn’t even show how I did the broom finish.
@@DIYDeclassifiedI heard what you said but that doesn't excuse poor workmanship! Then next time just cut it out of the video instead of embarrassing yourself with a very poorly finished concrete pad. Any customer I've worked for would have me rip that out and redo it.
@@rickhatesmisleadia7101 First: I’m not embarrassed by it at all, because it was my first time and I learned a lot from it. Second: I’m going to continue making videos and posting them, feel free to tear me up all you want.
@@DIYDeclassified I'm not tearing you up man! That pad is pretty bad and any respected concrete finisher would tell you the same thing. Actually, your video was pretty good except the pad portion which you could and should have edited out. I never once suggested you quit making video's so don't come at me with that but I would have replaced that pad and finished it properly. Show some respect for the trade. If I did a deck video and put and nasty knotted up board right in the middle of the deck, I would expect carpenters to criticize me :) You do you man....like I said it was a good deck video but the pad could have been left on the cutting room floor :) Nothin personal
You're gonna be a great building channel. I think you could get away with not even bothering to pick any background music too - you're entertaining / informative enough without any music. Wish you the best! Now...go make more videos! :)
Thank you. My goal is to grow this to one of the top DIY channels, but Im still figuring out all the editing. You are right, I think going forward Im going to remove the music, or keep it as such a low decible it isnt noticible.
@@DIYDeclassifiedyup, no music, it's much louder than your dialogue.. so turning up, turning down...
You cut so deep into that top stringer to place it inside the deck. Are you not worried about it? I am presently in the process of building deck stairs, but I think I'll still surface mount it. Only problem is I'll have to add another ledger piece under the rim band as the stringers fall short. That might look bad. Lots of things to consider on these deck builds...
I'm a female and I'm going to try and do it myself but I am cheating and buying 4 or 5 stringers I'm not sure what I need yet all I know is the stairs are horrible in back to me very unsafe to narrow not wide enough won't let my grandchildren use them and my husband was never taught nothing as a child or teen his dad died as a little boy mom shortly after brothers didn't teach him shit and he has o patience and I mean o patience my dad taught me alot thru my years as a child and a adult so I am going to attempt this on my own
I know a lot of the DIY community is male, but in my expierence some of the best DIYers are female. You got this! Good Luck with the stairs.
Need to balance the music in the video. You're so quiet then the music is BOOMING!!! Volume up, volume down over and over. Its annoying.
TH-cam compresses the audio in a way I wasn't use to. Took me a few tries, but the newer videos should have it resolved.
Interesting way to attach the stringers to the deck. Never seen that before. Only conserned would be how much of the 2x12 is left. Might be a weak spot? Here is a video that I made on how to build a composite staircase. th-cam.com/video/MkYkMQh6hP0/w-d-xo.html
I felt the same way. After talking with some local builders in my area that do this they "assured" me it would be fine since I set the 12 inches on center. Only time will tell. I do perform a spring inspection every year looking for splitting or signs of weakness. It's not always the best way, just another way.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I am doing this exact same build and was searching all over for a build showing how to measure/install with a landing in the middle. Great job.
I did the same thing you did, and almost decided to just build it without the landing. Good luck on your deck!
Excellent, but I'm curious why you didn't just attach the platform to the posts instead of first attaching the cross members to the posts and then sitting the platform on top of that...? You'd use higher posts for that, of course, but it eliminates a step and would have the same structural integrity. Or so it seems to me. Thanks
I didnt do it that way because...I didnt think of it in the moment. Ha Ha Hindsight, that would have been the better idea.
Music is seriously a distraction
I appologise. I took some bad editing advice on these deck videos. Thank you for lett me know. Its comments like this that help my editing journey, and provide better quality videos for everyone.
. My deck guy just walked off. I have been online all day and your video is just so awesome. You are an expert to me ! Simple and very Thorough even tips and tricks! Fucking Awesome! I hit the bell and Subscribed. Gidbless you! N keep up the great bideos my brother! Willie From Phillie!
Thanks man! That sucks that your deck guy quit. It’s a very rewarding project to tackle.
Music is way too loud. It’s annoying do you have to turn the volume up and down when the music kicks in so that it’s not loud for everyone else in the house that’s trying to sleep. Also definitely not my choice of music but whatever
I appologise. I took some bad editing advice on these deck videos. Thank you for lett me know. Its comments like this that help my editing journey, and provide better quality videos for everyone.
I have a lot of construction experience. I really like your channel and your honesty when making mistakes...Nice job Mr
Thank you.
Great video! Exactly the breakdown I needed to redo my deck stairs 👍
Thank you. Im glad I could help.
Underrated channel for now but I think you'll have more subscribers in the future. Your videos are solid. Great job.
I appreciate that! I just have to keep grinding through and building a video base. It will get there.
Very nice content but I had to stop watching half way because of the annoying background music drowning out your words and the start of some sections seemed to be triple the volume of your dialogue. The absolute best videos I have seen have ZERO crap music.
Thank you for the feedback. You are not alone with your experience. I took some audio advice when I was editing this and it didn’t turn out for me. I think I got it figured out on my latest videos though.
It doesn't bother me. I think he did a great job.
I have a small home and need a compact stair case that allows us to go up stairs. Our current stairs are super narrow and has broken treads all the way up. I want to change it to a wider set of stairs with a smaller footprint. Thoughts?
Hang on let me ask nolan
Yes please, eliminate the background music!
Sorry. I took some bad advice on how to edit in music.
you did good on this except your stinger material you should not have less than 5.5 inches of material remaining on teh heal edge if you have less than that it is always recommended to put a 2x6 runner on them to add extra support ..But I suggest using and most building codes require 2x12 for your stingers .. on your stingers you should add on the inside a 2x6 runner to add more support .. other than that you did pretty good and you can go with the material you used every 16 inches and any thing that contacts Concrete should always be Treated lumber
Thank you for the constructive feedback. This is the kind of post that not only helps me improve my skills, but it educates and helps the community.
Bro, can I work wit you?
Ha Ha, sorry man. Im not to a point where I can build out a team just yet.
I see why you cut the top of your stringers like that as it makes it easy to attach them to your deck but it leaves you with very little wood to support the load. I would be concerned that once that treated lumber dries out, you are going to get cracking along the grain and possible failure down the road. I mount my stringers to the face, screw in from behind and then block between them and screw in from the side. Our runs are usually a bit longer than yours but don't underestimate the loss of integrity that treated lumber experiences over time. I have yet to be able to reuse a full set of stringers when replacing wood decks with composite. They always split along the grain.
Thank you for the advice. I will keep an eye out for splitting. I saw the idea from another contractor and loved the idea. But you are correct that there isn’t a lot of “meat” left on the stringer.
Just curious if the blocking you added to the stringers replaces the need for strong backs on the side of the stringers? I love the way you connected the upper stringers to the deck. I've never seen that before. Also I'm curious if you have or plan to have a video on how to properly install a handrail.
I can’t take the credit for the way I attached it. I saw another TH-camr do it and thought it looked way stronger than what I had originally planned. This summer I have plans to do a follow-up video of the deck where I will put in the hand rail, and address some other things I wish I did differently.
Bandsaws are good for cutting those bolts without damaging the threads.
Thank you for the tip.
Thank you. Nice video. I was always under the impression that screws have much lower shear strength than nails, but I see you are using screws for structural components, many of which will experience significant sheer, where I would typically expect nails, such as joist hanger nails. What types of screws are you using in this case? I assume it is like a high strength structural screw?
You're right about the sheer strength, the screw will lose everytime. There was a shortage of materials when I built the deck so it was tough getting nails. I opted for construction screws. With the amount of screws going in each hanger, im not too worried about them breaking. Plus my area stays pretty dry year round so there isn't much wood movement. I would have definitely preferred nails though, those screws added so much time to the project.
Good work thanks for info and good vid. Lose the music. Working, narration, drill sounds and just getting the job done making progress is music to our ears. No music need
Sorry about that. Being my first videos I was trying to figure it all out. I think I’ve got it dialed in and will be working to replace the audio on these videos soon.
Old homes basement stairs with rock foundation is nightmare got fix all loose rocks and replace them then start building
Hey Lois, did you ever get your rock foundation squared away? How did the project go?
Lol i was like, hey you should add some water to that concrete. Its ok i did the same thing my first few.
Yeah, it takes a few bags before you get the hang of the ratio.
That’s smart but I cut threaded rod a lot and as long as u cut clean and grind the edges after ur nut will go on
I guess it was a little added insurance on my side. I never cut threaded rod so I didn’t trust myself to do it clean.
The way you did your upper set of stringers was awesome. Alot of deck stairs and hand railing fail over time because they aren't mounted inside the box joist like you did. Very good tip.
I cant take all the credit. I saw another TH-camr do this and thought it look SOLID. My only fear is that I should have used a wider board since I had to cut further into it. But with four stringers 12 inches apart, I think it should be fine.
Noticed you added a slope to the concrete pad. Did you also slope the deck? I’ve read so many conflicting views on whether a deck with composite boards (with gaps in between boards) should be sloped or not. Any help is greatly appreciated!
I did not slope the deck. I too saw many mixed reviews, and decided to keep it level. My thoughts on this, the composite boards I have already have a slight curve that will help push the water to the sides. Any water that does hang out, it’s going to do nothing to the composite boards.
@@DIYDeclassified Thanks! I really appreciate the answer as well as the reasoning behind it!!
A little trick I learned in my previous work. If you file threaded bolts or rod after cutting with a portable bandsaw, you can get a nut on it.
Thank you for the tip.
Yep, came to say the same. A little filing and you’re all set
All of that framing material should be pressure treated. Nice work.
Yes it should. When I purchased the lumber we were in the thick of the wood shortage a couple years ago, and we couldn’t get pressure treated lumber. Before I built the deck I sealed every board in my garage, and every spring I go out and re-coat them.
@@DIYDeclassified very nice build I’m getting ready to re-do the exterior stairs to my parents home. Would be interesting to see or hear an update on how the lumber has been holding up to the elements
Very useful tips. This guy knows decks.
Thank you.
Great video, got a sub!
Thanks for the sub! I hope I don’t disappoint 😉
thanks for the video
You're welcome, thanks for watching and commenting.
Your entire deck framing should be pressure treated.
Great information but that background music!!!
Sorry for that. Being new to editing, I am still trying to figure out the right balance. I think until I do, Im just going to remove the music in future videos.