Toni KUKOC unknown records: Highest 3PT % improvement in NBA history -Kukoc improved from 26.2% in 1999-00 to 44.6% in 2000-01. Most Game winning shots in a season (1993-1994) -KUKOC lead the league with game winning shots all in his ROOKIE year. This was the year Toni made the legendary buzzer beater against NY Knicks. In my opinion his game winning shots rank amongst the best of all time, A) Scoring in clutch moments B) Degree of difficulty was insane. Top 10 in league for W/S Winshares in 2 separate years! Only player to ever 3 PEAT with Club and NBA Team - 3 x club champion - 3x NBA champion Toni will be the only player in history to ever accomplish this. None the less there is no reason toni shouldn’t be in the Naismith Basketball HOF. I shouldn’t even need to plead his case as his resume is amongst the most impressive in the history of the sport.Ontop of Toni being not only the first stretch 4 in the game but being one of the first people to pave the way for international basketball (Add he was on the most popular sports franchise team EVER) he is the pioneer of European basketball. I think it’s enough to say that if MJ and Pippen have advocated for Toni to be inducted .. it’s just long overdue, the disrespect is real.
@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C I live in Europe and I have played football all my life. But I still find this irritating. Just let people like whatever sport they want
Kukoc has a career NBA scoring average of 11.6 points per game. His last four years in the league he averaged 7.6 points per game. His last two years with the Bulls after Jordan left and Kukoc had a chance to lead the team, the team won 13 games the first year and 17 games the next year and the Bulls needless to say, failed to make the playoffs for the first time in years. There is absolutely nothing in Kukoc's NBA resume that would legitimately warrant an NBA Hall of Fame nomination.
@@boci4618 The NBA is the elite of basketball. Those who achieved a lot in Europe but little in the NBA don't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. To be in the Basketball Hall of Fame means you are elite. If you can only play well in Europe, then you are not elite. The NBA is the varsity of basketball. Europe is JV.
The Bulls weren't that deep. As proven especially in 97 and 98. Some of the weakest teams on offense to win a title. Pippen was injured on and off. Rodman could defend and rebound but had no offense and clearly wasn't the same after 96. Kukoc was pretty good and well balanced in skills offensively but was not a good defender. Kerr was nothing more than a 3pt guy. Harper could defend but mediocre on offense . Just replaceable roleplayers after that
LeBron would’ve won 11 rings with that team. He would’ve never cracked and retire for 2 years. He would’ve gone to the playoffs 3 years into the league not 5 years. He would’ve won 11
@@zozochichi Absolute nonsense. James couldn't even win three in a row with better overall help and injuries and contract disputes and so forth make it hard win so many in a row. Look how injuries stopped the warriors. Also, Jordan didn't have the same teammates the whole time and he partly retired because of his father's death. Without Jordan, that second threepeat team a borderline playoff team at the very best. Pippen and Rodman missed loads of games in 98
I honestly cannot tell you why but Tony Kukoc is my favorite basketball player of all time. This was when the DREAM TEAM of the Bulls had Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman. I just gravitated towards him and was like "Yeah, that's my dude right there". People are often surprised whenever I bring this up.
same, kukoc was my 2nd favorite in bulls after jordan.. he was so sensational that time.. can't even tell without kukoc there would be no 2nd 3 peat in bulls
Facts, Kukoc being his predecessor too, he always knows his stuff, man, a player like KD... if only he wasn't the weakest superstar of all-time, but even more relevantly than that, why did he bring all that disservice to himself both as a man off the court and as a player on the court even outside the Warriors-betrying Thunder facts, jeez KD....
He didnt wear it because of kukoc stupid he wore it because it was the comletation of the world if you didnt know in the bible the world was completed in 7 days
Throughout all his career he has been an incredibly underrated player, last dance could have given him the credit he deserves and got snubbed again, being portrayed like the cold eastern european protégé of the evilish Jerry Krause that risked to destroy the team balance, on the other hand Kerr is portrayed as "the actual sixth man of the bulls and the clutch player they needed" (FOR REAL???). He definitely deserves the hof, but hof snubs him... Americans, what's the problem with this guy?
@@edwardlomeli5657 Wrong. That is because Scottie and Toni did nothing impressive after their Bulls tenure. Scottie was in Houston and Portland, both highly seeded teams but accomplish nothing. Toni after the bulls was obscure. Kerr on the other hand maintained how he was, a reliable role player, at SAS
Kukoc wasn't just overrated, he was highly overrated. What did he do when Jordan left the bulls for two years then retired. NOTHING. What did he do in Milwaukee, NOTHING. What did he do in Atlanta? Once again, NOTHING. Kukoc was in Philly for two years and averaged 10.2 points per game. That ain't even hall of fame numbers in grade school basketball. If one is to analyze the NBA, one would be remiss to ignore the racial aspect, this is the USA where race is very, very important. The NBA is a predominately African-American product that is being marketed to a white American audience. That audience has historically had a problem with accepting anything that is overwhelmingly Black unless it is somehow ameliorated. That is just a fact about the USA. This is why the NBA went to Europe. One would be hard pressed to name 10 American born white NBA players who are of all star quality. This was true of the 1990s, 2000s, and today. So, lets go to Eastern Europe to find the much needed white players, and hey, if they're good, we will promote them as being grrrreat. You can find dozens of former African-American NBA players with stats similar to Kukoc's who aren't considered Hall of Fame caliber players. Kukoc is just one of too many examples of white privilege.
@@akken2112 I agree with you, in my opinion he is not top 20 NBA player from Europe. Better than Kukoc are: Bojan Bogdanovic, Drazen Petrovic, Lauri Markkanen, Evan Fournier, Rudy Gobert, Tony Parker, Dennis Schroder, Dirk Nowitzki, Detlef Schrempf, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Danillo Galinari, Marco Belinelli, Andrea Bargnani, Kristaps Porzignis, Domantas Sabonis, Jonas Valanciunas, Arvydas Sabonis, Nikola Vucevic, Rik Smits, Andrei Kirilenko, Nikola Jokic, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Vlade Divac, Peja Stojakovic, Luka Doncic, Goran Dragic, Marc Gasol,Pau Gasol, Clint Capella.
... and Jokic, must mention him ... Great summarised story of Kukoc. I am from Serbia and I am proud that Kukoc came from ex Yugoslavia. If only these leagues today Serbian,Croatian,Slovenian,... are half as strong as Yugosalvian league was.
This is one of the best videos covering the great legendary career of Toni KUKOC, and I’ve seen them all. Besides the fact you mispronounced Dino Radjas last name the entire video and misspelling Drazen Petrovic last name (just teasing) you really hit the nail on the head covering key parts of his career. You actually said many rare things a lot of people don’t know about him, telling me you really dug deep!! Respect for the video brother!!
Only thing what is missing is the scene of Toni dunking from the free throw line when he was still playing in Split - just to show he's athleticism according to Nowitzki
@@damirdamir1180 he’s extremely underrated lol, he would of easily been a #1-2 option on most teams in the 90s.. he was on a stacked bull teams and was the 3rd/4th option most of the time.
Thanks for the vid. For me, a lot of great European players nowadays flocking into NBA and were treated way better than Toni was. He surely left his legacy in NBA for others to have better opportunity and priveleges. However, as much as I like many European players now, there will be noone like Toni, and I'm glad I'd lived and watched his games through that era, and it was a wonderful ride.
From the croatian interviews I saw with Kukoc, I would charaterise him as a real Dalmatian man. He is too humble for his own NBA career i think. Just like Phil Jackson sad he only scratched the surface of his talents. He was one of the most talented players then, with his passing, shooting, size and touch. His IQ was high. If he got to the NBA now and coaches and teammates gave him confidence and trust like they do today, he would be Doncic. period
Kukoc SHOULD be on the HOF already... Radja and Divac are already in...this is the same if lets say draymond green and klay thompson are inducted prior to kevin durant..Kukoc was far superior player to Radja and Divac much the same way Durant is superior to Draymond and Klay..
Ex Yugoslavia players were the best in the world, like : Korac , Cosic , Kicanovic, Dalipagic, Delibasic, Divac , Petrovic, Rada ,Kukoc , Bodiroga, Obradovic, Bojan Bogdanovic, Bogdan Bogdanovic , Jokic , Stojakovic and many more.
Good day everyone Used to play with all mentioned Gent's on dvd clip when we were younger 15 onwards. For sure Toni is the best example of all ; talking about manners and human quality generally, so humble person. Hat down for people like Toni. MJ will never achive all those trophies if he didn't have by side Pipen, Rodman and Toni...... Cheers from Dubrovnik Croatia 🇭🇷
@@jespacey Sad that the MVP of that team had to get criminally treated like that, but Krause did his job masterfully, raining stars and stacking pieces on that Bulls team handing as many rings to Jordan as possible.
Krause did his job, then spit in the team's face afterward by stating that organizations and not players win championships. He felt HE made the Bulls. He has no honor for the game, and the organization is still cursed because of it.
@Brian Pederson was he also doing his job when essentially fired a coach who had won 5 titles in the last 7 years, which would eventually lead to the breaking up of the most elite team ever?
@Brian Pederson just illustrates that krause wasn't doing a good job at that point anymore. you don't nickle and dime the 2nd best player in the league. specially when you the best best player in the league under the larry bird rule. you don't do things to ruin the team, when the team is literally winning titles every year.
In the final game of junior world chamionship which was I think held in Argentina in about 1985 where Yugoslavia won against USA,Toni shot 11-12 (92%) FOR THREEPOINTERS !
@@mxles8102 nah lel, croatia was few year old country with 4 mil people against US (50 states?) dream team... but Im not talking about that, I am talking about his impact on bulls, never mentioned in the last dance.
The Jordan effect and myth killing and robbing some more players as usual, despite Kukoc being damn near a first ballot HOFer and such an impactful player.
Kukoc is the definition of a professional he never argues with his coach, always adapts to help the team, passes first instead of stat padding, is never in controversy and respected his elders like MJ. If you want to be a pro model your attitude after him
Im so glad i had opportunity to watch amazing Toni in our home city - Split and his almighty Jugoplastika team. Up to this day he's the best European basketball player. Unfortunatelly soooo underrated, esp in USA.
Basketball poet! Beauty of his game surpasses era of his existence. Ignoring importance of his name in changing the world and game is not just underrated, it's insulting for brain of everybody who knows and loves this game. Welcome to HOF, Toni - One of greatest, and most important players of all time!
Kukoc was a very good player, could adapt, could score, was a bit lightweight at first but worked on that side of his game. Was a really useful cog in the Buils machine.
To those who were able to watch the Bulls play, Toni Kukoc was just one of the insane Bulls talent overshadowed by MJ. This guy is insanely clutch for a 6th man. And girls like him. F Toni Kukoc, setting the bar so high for high school girls. Asian here btw.
Until the age of 15, he coached football and ping pong, and from the age of 16 to 20 he conquered Europe in basketball. The greatest talent ever, he played everything from 1 to 5.
I remember him playing in the Euro League at Jugoplastika and could see this guy had something that other European players just didn't have. Kukoc, Nicos Gallis and Šarūnas Marčiulionis were my favourite European players. You could see they had NBA potential.
Kukoc preteca modernih visokih igraca , realno bio je ispred svog vremena, sa 211 mogao je bez problema da igra pleja, da danas igra u ovom danasnjem NBA bio bi kandidat za MVP-ja.
Tony is top five European players of all time. Extremely unappreciated. If you played for any other team he would be in the top 50 greatest players of all time. But remember for majority of the time on the bulls he was coming off the bench as the sixth Man
Ok, there is well-known rivalry between us Serbs and Croats, but listen to me now: Toni Kukoc was probably the greatest and certainly the most gifted European player of his time! And all that compared with such masters of the game, as Vlade Divac, Dino Radja, Dejan Bodiroga, Arvydas Sabonis, Drazen Petrovic, Sarunas Marculionis...etc. Kukoc was a perfect all-rounder, he was a seven-foot guy who could shoot for three and play as a point guard! He could dribble, he could assist, he was also a prolific scorer and an ultimate clutch performer among all European players. He should be in the Hall of Fame and he should be much, much more recognized from the American basketball fans.
I'm a grown man. But when I watch and see and feel the acknowledgement of tony, I tear up a bit. Man was a beast🏀. He always tried to pass, but if he couldn't, he ruled!! And didn't get much props. He does now
KD would be one of the most deserving players and students if only he wasn't the weakest superstar and with all his problems as a man and (off the court) player. But definitely his player abilities and game studying are a guarantee of elite, especially he wouldn't miss his predecessor.
In 2020,Toni Kukoč would be a top 5 pick. Something like Luka Dončić and he would get his own team to run. Not to say that he would have the same succes in the NBA as Luka,but he would be a multiple time all-star and a franchize player. No question in my mind about that. He could shoot,pass,drible,had post moves,was a team player,lots of size,solid atlethic ability,great work ethic etc..he had it all. Is sad how many european legends were never able to show what are they capable of in the NBA. Arvydas Sabonis,if he came into the NBA while still young he would be among Walton,Kareem,Shaq,Wilt,Russell etc. He would be considered one of the all-time great centers. Also Drazen Petrović was not given a fair oportunity at the start of his career,and when he finally started going with the Nets he was taken from us way to soon. No question he would be another great NBA player if he got a chance earlier and continued playing. Not to mention guys who never went to the NBA guys like Diamantidis,Papaloukas,Vujčić,Dejan Bodiroga,Miloš Teodosić,Vasilis Spanoulis,Juan Carlos Navarro,Anthony Parker etc...in their prime all these european legends would be all-star in the NBA.
Ahh our tonci, we miss him, to have a player like him now we would return our basketball where it belongs, he is highly underrated and should have been more prominently featured in last dance
@@sd3nsd744 u need to know that they had divac, radja, kukoc, drazen,... List goes on they won everything together so i think they could make a really close game
I always liked Toni and he did make a solid contribution to the Bulls second 3-peat. I love how the European Leagues develops players with all the fundamentals of the game but in the 90's, it was still quite physical in the NBA and as this vid points out, this made for a difficult transition from the Euro Leagues. Toni adapted better than many others.
He was so effin' good, that he could have been the star player on other teams.....but it payed off for him to play alongside Michael and Scottie. He eventually became a Hall O' Famer, and deservedly so. Put together his achievements, this man is a legend.
He already had a great career in Europe before going to the NBA. He lit up Europe with Jugoplastika and in Italy. He had 10 years of basketball on him before going to the NBA.
Completely agree, he sacrificed his game to ultimately be a role player for MJ. Toni did not play his natural position once Duringnhis tenure in the nba. Toni is an incredible Facilitator and Ball handler, that was his game. If Toni had his own team during his prime you would of easily seen 22PPG/7AST/7RBD splits.
Kukoc would be utilized very differently nowadays and would probably have had a more impressive NBA career. They didn't really develop big guys back then to have the kind of skills Toni had and they didn't let them use those skills regularly.
the guy KD is almost identical to is Bob Mcadoo..actually Bob Mcadoo had a 4 year stretch with incredible numbers like 30 plus ppg and 12 plus Rbnds and 3 blocks..Bob Mcadoo(over 30 years old)came to Italy and completely dominated the euroleaugue with Traser Milan just prior to Kukoc Jugoplastica.
that Rodman hug takes me back like a mug. I was in Orlando visiting Disney for the first time at age 11 watching that game across a table from folks from Utah
Toni "Pink Panther"of basketball The player...with most post game talkings about genieus moves Such a grace in simple...but atractive "jokes" Not about..higher, further,harder.....but about art in that game Such a spetial player...no one is realy comperable with this guy Thank you Toni... You .....your playing....makes me wish to watch basketball
If Kukoc came in now, he would be like Donic. He was a sharpshooting 6‘10” playmaking guard. And he was crutch as well, fearless. If he went the team he would pass over any guard with his height, shot over them or post them up when he wanted to, and if he was double teamed, he could‘ve easily find the open guy for an assist. His only liability is in the defensive end. He was too slow to defend quicker guards and not strong enough to guard PF or C.
If he just had chosen another team but The Bulls he would be an All-Star player with a pretty promising career. He was not used to be benched. Being that good he was still pretty humble. And yet they dare to compare him with the Europeans who come to NBA nowadays. Today these European players get immediately a leading role when they arrive to NBA. Then it was impossible.
You are wrong about not having anything to prove in Europe. I remember he took the loss in the 1993 European Championship final very heavily, crying. He was in Italian club Benetton Treviso but lost to French club Limoges of B.Malkovic, that had the best defense in Europe back then. Previously in the semis they had defeated favorite PAOK from Greece, coached by Dusan Ivkovic and featuring former Bulls champion Cliff Levingston. He wanted to own a European championship before becoming NBA champion, but even he could not defeate that rock defense, lead by Slovenian playmaker legend Juri Zdovc and former 76rs player Michael Young
The snub in the "documentary" was pretty obvious. It didn't fit the narrative that Jordan had Hall of Fame level talent around him and he did not solo-carry his teams to those rings. Those Bulls were the most stacked team in the league, by a huge margin.
Tony was arguably the BEST Chicago Bull at times. The only thing he didn't own was the egotistical personality of Jordan and Pippen. There would be no re-3peat without Dennis, Harper and Tony, those were masterful moves to cement the Jordan legacy and the greatness of that Bulls dynasty
I was born in the 80's so I saw all of those Bulls championships and saw Kukoc's NBA career and this guy was a baller and one of my favorite players. Very skilled at his height. Underrated all time
If he doesn't get elected to the Naismith HOF, the selection committee would have problems. When Dino Radja (who had shorter career in NBA) is in, Toni is well-deserved, with his European and Chicago Bulls accomplishments, being part of the Big Four in the second three peat, All-Rookie Second Team and winning 6th Man of the Year.
There was a lotta times going in to the 4th qtr the bulls would be down and pippen n Jordan would be sitting to start the 4th qtr and that 2nd 5 team off the bench would make runs. I remember against the Lakers the bulls were down 15 points gojng into the 4th qtr. I said the Lakers need to hold em under 35 points in the 4tn n they will get the win... Kukoc speed 18 in the 4th the bulls scored 37 in the 4th n won by 2. Kukoc was the man. A true 6th man that was at times better than a number 1 on the team they were playing against
3× NBA champion (1996-1998) NBA Sixth Man of the Year (1996) NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1994) 3× EuroLeague champion (1989-1991) 3× EuroLeague Final Four MVP (1990, 1991, 1993) EuroLeague Finals Top Scorer (1990) 2× FIBA European Selection (1991 2×) 50 Greatest EuroLeague Contributors (2008) 2× Triple Crown winner (1990, 1991) Italian League champion (1992) Italian Cup winner (1993) 4× Yugoslav League champion (1988-1991) 2× Yugoslav Cup winner (1990, 1991) 5× Euroscar Player of the Year (1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1998) 4× Mister Europa Player of the Year (1990-1992, 1996) 3× Croatian Sportsman of the Year (1989-1991) Franjo Bučar State Award for Sport (1992) FIBA World Championship MVP (1990) FIBA EuroBasket MVP (1991) FIBA Under-19 World Cup MVP (1987) FIBA Under-18 European Championship MVP (1986) FIBA's 50 Greatest Players
There's a reason Kukoc was given the last shot in the game where Scottie got upset because he didn't get the shot. If you watched basketball back in the day, and could see through the hoopla...Kukoc was much better at scoring and creating off the dribble in a half court set. With Jordan out playing baseball, and playing for keeps in the playoffs...when it came down to winning over hurting the feelings of Scottie...Phil chose Kukoc to take the last shot...because he trusted Kukoc more to get the job done. He could be straight up unstoppable at times. Pippen was not as good in the half court set, one on one. Pippen's skill was in the fast break but with all due respect to Pippen, I did not consider him a player that could create his own shot, by himself and off the dribble that well in a half court set--at least not nearly as well as Toni. It's a shame that Kukoc has been swept under the rug after all these years cause he was a boss...he was more interested in winning than in ego or stats.
Kukoc IS thé best allaround playmaker in european History 208cm ! And top 5 european player all Time hé played in a Era when internet dont exist thé Replay and direct games young people forget about toni but in his Time he was more paid Than thé best football player in Europe.
I hated him so much for those two final-four against Barcelona, my team when i was a kid the same way I loved watching him playing later. There is no hatred left of me towards you, Kukoc. xd
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Toni KUKOC unknown records:
Highest 3PT % improvement in NBA history
-Kukoc improved from 26.2% in 1999-00 to 44.6% in 2000-01.
Most Game winning shots in a season (1993-1994)
-KUKOC lead the league with game winning shots all in his ROOKIE year. This was the year Toni made the legendary buzzer beater against NY Knicks. In my opinion his game winning shots rank amongst the best of all time, A) Scoring in clutch moments B) Degree of difficulty was insane.
Top 10 in league for W/S Winshares in 2 separate years!
Only player to ever 3 PEAT with Club and NBA Team
- 3 x club champion
- 3x NBA champion
Toni will be the only player in history to ever accomplish this.
None the less there is no reason toni shouldn’t be in the Naismith Basketball HOF. I shouldn’t even need to plead his case as his resume is amongst the most impressive in the history of the sport.Ontop of Toni being not only the first stretch 4 in the game but being one of the first people to pave the way for international basketball (Add he was on the most popular sports franchise team EVER) he is the pioneer of European basketball. I think it’s enough to say that if MJ and Pippen have advocated for Toni to be inducted .. it’s just long overdue, the disrespect is real.
There were and there are great players from the region of former Yugoslavia, but he's the most talented player I ever watched.
@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C stfu
@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C I live in Europe and I have played football all my life. But I still find this irritating. Just let people like whatever sport they want
@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C How is this relevant to this comment at all? Go find some Ronaldo pics to drool over.
@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C soccer was invented to keep european women entertained while the men cooked.
This man is an underrated legend he barely had problems with his teammates
Da Vion Haynes-W I wouldn’t say he is a legend
How is he a legend lmao
@@sigmasigmasigmasigm if he's not a legend, then you don't watch basketball.
@@sigmasigmasigmasigm He is defintevly legend in Europe
"Barely had problems with teammates"
Didn't Pippen and MJ deliberately humiliate him in the Olympics?
Kukoc absolutely deserves a spot in the hall of fame.
@Ravensfan4life Basketball HoF. Nba Hall of very good.
@Ravensfan4life man has more awards than fingers. It is the basketball hall of fame not the NBA HoF
Kukoc has a career NBA scoring average of 11.6 points per game. His last four years in the league he averaged 7.6 points per game. His last two years with the Bulls after Jordan left and Kukoc had a chance to lead the team, the team won 13 games the first year and 17 games the next year and the Bulls needless to say, failed to make the playoffs for the first time in years. There is absolutely nothing in Kukoc's NBA resume that would legitimately warrant an NBA Hall of Fame nomination.
@@boci4618 The NBA is the elite of basketball. Those who achieved a lot in Europe but little in the NBA don't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. To be in the Basketball Hall of Fame means you are elite. If you can only play well in Europe, then you are not elite. The NBA is the varsity of basketball. Europe is JV.
@@akken2112 its the basketball hall of fame not the NBA hall of fame.
I feel like kukoc could’ve had a good career if him and Scottie stickers together I mean the guy was like a 90’s kind of KD
Nkateko Macevele yeah Scottie and mj bullied him forever
Kukoc has said he enjoys watching KD play today
Kukoč had amazing careec, amazing. Hall of fame player, 10000%.
@@el_messija2615 respect for spelling his last name properly hehe Cheers!
He was scouted to be Scottie's replacement. Management ruined their relationship ultimately..
Kukoc is really underrated.
Not only was he really good, he was wicked clutch too. And he's a 6th man, let that sink in. That Bulls team was ridiculously deep and well coached.
Yes he is such a clutch player. It is just he is MJ and Scottie, so he doesn't get the attention he deserves.
The Bulls weren't that deep. As proven especially in 97 and 98. Some of the weakest teams on offense to win a title. Pippen was injured on and off. Rodman could defend and rebound but had no offense and clearly wasn't the same after 96. Kukoc was pretty good and well balanced in skills offensively but was not a good defender. Kerr was nothing more than a 3pt guy. Harper could defend but mediocre on offense . Just replaceable roleplayers after that
LeBron would’ve won 11 rings with that team. He would’ve never cracked and retire for 2 years. He would’ve gone to the playoffs 3 years into the league not 5 years. He would’ve won 11
@@zozochichi Absolute nonsense. James couldn't even win three in a row with better overall help and injuries and contract disputes and so forth make it hard win so many in a row. Look how injuries stopped the warriors. Also, Jordan didn't have the same teammates the whole time and he partly retired because of his father's death. Without Jordan, that second threepeat team a borderline playoff team at the very best. Pippen and Rodman missed loads of games in 98
@@zozochichi le bronze got 2 bronze medals with 2 dream teams, mj got 2 gold medals with a college team before turning pro, 1983 and 1984.
I honestly cannot tell you why but Tony Kukoc is my favorite basketball player of all time. This was when the DREAM TEAM of the Bulls had Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman. I just gravitated towards him and was like "Yeah, that's my dude right there". People are often surprised whenever I bring this up.
same, kukoc was my 2nd favorite in bulls after jordan.. he was so sensational that time.. can't even tell without kukoc there would be no 2nd 3 peat in bulls
@@jonsnow3754 I understand. Many people surprise when i tell them C Webb is the I started watching basketball.
Same. I was 7 when he joined the bulls and I spent all I had to buy me a kukoc Jersey.
His name reminds me of greatness. A huge West African fan of Toni Kukoc.
KD a goat for rockin his jersey
Facts, Kukoc being his predecessor too, he always knows his stuff, man, a player like KD... if only he wasn't the weakest superstar of all-time, but even more relevantly than that, why did he bring all that disservice to himself both as a man off the court and as a player on the court even outside the Warriors-betrying Thunder facts, jeez KD....
He didnt wear it because of kukoc stupid he wore it because it was the comletation of the world if you didnt know in the bible the world was completed in 7 days
@@adammea1585 hahahaha he could of chose between 100 different players wearing the #7.
Throughout all his career he has been an incredibly underrated player, last dance could have given him the credit he deserves and got snubbed again, being portrayed like the cold eastern european protégé of the evilish Jerry Krause that risked to destroy the team balance, on the other hand Kerr is portrayed as "the actual sixth man of the bulls and the clutch player they needed" (FOR REAL???). He definitely deserves the hof, but hof snubs him... Americans, what's the problem with this guy?
@Damien Williams Found the bot, what are you on about?
MJ got to keep his teammates contribution down to keep his god status high
Croatia is NOT Eastern Europe though...
@@kani9284 the borders of germany, austria and italy traditionally define the border between eastern and western Europe
@@edwardlomeli5657 Wrong. That is because Scottie and Toni did nothing impressive after their Bulls tenure. Scottie was in Houston and Portland, both highly seeded teams but accomplish nothing. Toni after the bulls was obscure. Kerr on the other hand maintained how he was, a reliable role player, at SAS
He wasn't good, he was one of the best ever!
Greetings from the banks of Danube, Serbia
Kukoc wasn't just overrated, he was highly overrated. What did he do when Jordan left the bulls for two years then retired. NOTHING. What did he do in Milwaukee, NOTHING. What did he do in Atlanta? Once again, NOTHING. Kukoc was in Philly for two years and averaged 10.2 points per game. That ain't even hall of fame numbers in grade school basketball. If one is to analyze the NBA, one would be remiss to ignore the racial aspect, this is the USA where race is very, very important. The NBA is a predominately African-American product that is being marketed to a white American audience. That audience has historically had a problem with accepting anything that is overwhelmingly Black unless it is somehow ameliorated. That is just a fact about the USA. This is why the NBA went to Europe. One would be hard pressed to name 10 American born white NBA players who are of all star quality. This was true of the 1990s, 2000s, and today. So, lets go to Eastern Europe to find the much needed white players, and hey, if they're good, we will promote them as being grrrreat. You can find dozens of former African-American NBA players with stats similar to Kukoc's who aren't considered Hall of Fame caliber players. Kukoc is just one of too many examples of white privilege.
@@akken2112 you just about salty about 1994 ny knicks Game 3
@@akken2112
I agree with you, in my opinion he is not top 20 NBA player from Europe. Better than Kukoc are: Bojan Bogdanovic, Drazen Petrovic, Lauri Markkanen, Evan Fournier, Rudy Gobert, Tony Parker, Dennis Schroder, Dirk Nowitzki, Detlef Schrempf, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Danillo Galinari, Marco Belinelli, Andrea Bargnani, Kristaps Porzignis, Domantas Sabonis, Jonas Valanciunas, Arvydas Sabonis, Nikola Vucevic, Rik Smits, Andrei Kirilenko, Nikola Jokic, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Vlade Divac, Peja Stojakovic, Luka Doncic, Goran Dragic, Marc Gasol,Pau Gasol, Clint Capella.
You are kids that havent seen him play, and btw beeing white from europe back then it was though not privilaged...kids lol
58 years old. Love Tony. From Chicago. 100% Slovak
He's the only player to 3 peat in Euroleague and NBA, + euroleague MVP,+FIBA MVP, sixth man of the year, yet not HOF
... and Jokic, must mention him ... Great summarised story of Kukoc. I am from Serbia and I am proud that Kukoc came from ex Yugoslavia. If only these leagues today Serbian,Croatian,Slovenian,... are half as strong as Yugosalvian league was.
Kukoč came from CROATIA.
This is one of the best videos covering the great legendary career of Toni KUKOC, and I’ve seen them all. Besides the fact you mispronounced Dino Radjas last name the entire video and misspelling Drazen Petrovic last name (just teasing) you really hit the nail on the head covering key parts of his career. You actually said many rare things a lot of people don’t know about him, telling me you really dug deep!! Respect for the video brother!!
You are secretively TK
Only thing what is missing is the scene of Toni dunking from the free throw line when he was still playing in Split - just to show he's athleticism according to Nowitzki
Tony is overrated. Don't judge a player by titles he won because than Robert Horry > Karl Malone
@@damirdamir1180 he’s extremely underrated lol, he would of easily been a #1-2 option on most teams in the 90s.. he was on a stacked bull teams and was the 3rd/4th option most of the time.
Thanks for the vid. For me, a lot of great European players nowadays flocking into NBA and were treated way better than Toni was. He surely left his legacy in NBA for others to have better opportunity and priveleges. However, as much as I like many European players now, there will be noone like Toni, and I'm glad I'd lived and watched his games through that era, and it was a wonderful ride.
Ahem... Luka.
Watch out for Luka, he will be better. Although I am sure Petrovic could have reached greatness in that league had he did not die too soon..
@@mrpatfenis3148 Luka still needs to surpass Dirk, the man who beat a PRIME LEBRON Super team. Lets see Luka beat led team beat GSW.
From the croatian interviews I saw with Kukoc, I would charaterise him as a real Dalmatian man. He is too humble for his own NBA career i think. Just like Phil Jackson sad he only scratched the surface of his talents. He was one of the most talented players then, with his passing, shooting, size and touch. His IQ was high. If he got to the NBA now and coaches and teammates gave him confidence and trust like they do today, he would be Doncic. period
He was the difference between jazz and bull
Kukoc SHOULD be on the HOF already... Radja and Divac are already in...this is the same if lets say draymond green and klay thompson are inducted prior to kevin durant..Kukoc was far superior player to Radja and Divac much the same way Durant is superior to Draymond and Klay..
Repubilika Dugave. You would have taken Kukoc over Radja and Divac.
@Inigo Bantok why kukoc wasnt an all star is beyond me...
HOF is about basketball achievement right? I think his international achievements is enough to be in HOF.
Soon He is already listed for class 2021 Hall of Famer
He deserves to be a Hall of Famer
yap he is now a NBA hall of famer class of 2021
hes better than pippen.
Ex Yugoslavia players were the best in the world, like : Korac , Cosic , Kicanovic, Dalipagic, Delibasic, Divac , Petrovic, Rada ,Kukoc , Bodiroga, Obradovic, Bojan Bogdanovic, Bogdan Bogdanovic , Jokic , Stojakovic and many more.
In Europe yes in the world no
@@croke835 balkan players are taking over the league
Can't believe you didn't mention Dražen Petrović!
@ he did
I could see Serbian from a plane...
Good day everyone
Used to play with all mentioned Gent's on dvd clip when we were younger 15 onwards. For sure Toni is the best example of all ; talking about manners and human quality generally, so humble person. Hat down for people like Toni.
MJ will never achive all those trophies if he didn't have by side Pipen, Rodman and Toni......
Cheers from Dubrovnik Croatia 🇭🇷
Jerry Krause: Michael, we're scouring the world for elite talent to help you win as many championships as humanly possible.
Mike: It became personal.
that wasnt the case, krause was lowballing pip because toni was his guy
@@jespacey Sad that the MVP of that team had to get criminally treated like that, but Krause did his job masterfully, raining stars and stacking pieces on that Bulls team handing as many rings to Jordan as possible.
Krause did his job, then spit in the team's face afterward by stating that organizations and not players win championships. He felt HE made the Bulls. He has no honor for the game, and the organization is still cursed because of it.
@Brian Pederson was he also doing his job when essentially fired a coach who had won 5 titles in the last 7 years, which would eventually lead to the breaking up of the most elite team ever?
@Brian Pederson just illustrates that krause wasn't doing a good job at that point anymore. you don't nickle and dime the 2nd best player in the league. specially when you the best best player in the league under the larry bird rule. you don't do things to ruin the team, when the team is literally winning titles every year.
Kukoc belongs in the Hall of Fame. He should've been there years ago. But as long as he gets in eventually it's all good.
In the final game of junior world chamionship which was I think held in Argentina in about 1985 where Yugoslavia won against USA,Toni shot 11-12 (92%) FOR THREEPOINTERS !
I am Croatian and how they portrayed tony in last dance, I could never see mj as goat again
Not saying it is but are you mad they beat your country and said they destroyed them?
Weak posting!
@@mxles8102 nah lel, croatia was few year old country with 4 mil people against US (50 states?) dream team... but Im not talking about that, I am talking about his impact on bulls, never mentioned in the last dance.
Totally agree. Jordan sucks at basketball because some editors in a documentary decided to spend less time talking about Kukoc.
So there was a dance , go for practice .poor , stile good , why Pele never played 4 60606
I don't understand how this man is not in HoF still....
When he die, he will be.
The Jordan effect and myth killing and robbing some more players as usual, despite Kukoc being damn near a first ballot HOFer and such an impactful player.
Maybe because he is European
@@dusk6159 Why blame MJ?
Just Vibin' they want to preserve the narrative that MJ played with scrubs.
Tony Kukoc is a beast, one of the most underrated players ever.
Toni a legend, my favourite Euro player of all time
Great analysis. All in one place. Best Toni Kukoc recap on the internet!
kukoc vs miller .08 winning shot is the most epic comeback in history of NBA
Kukoc is the definition of a professional he never argues with his coach, always adapts to help the team, passes first instead of stat padding, is never in controversy and respected his elders like MJ. If you want to be a pro model your attitude after him
The fact I am from Ex-Yugoslavia and then hearing how he pronounces their names gives me anexity
same feeling when they read your sentence
Hrvatska ajmoo i love kukoc and the bulls dynasty thank you for showing love for kukoc
Bog i batina od igraca
@@tonimarasovic4189 Nije slučajno dobio ovacije od navijača Partizana, i to u osvit svih sranja koja su se dogodila
Im so glad i had opportunity to watch amazing Toni in our home city - Split and his almighty Jugoplastika team. Up to this day he's the best European basketball player. Unfortunatelly soooo underrated, esp in USA.
Basketball poet!
Beauty of his game surpasses era of his existence. Ignoring importance of his name in changing the world and game is not just underrated, it's insulting for brain of everybody who knows and loves this game.
Welcome to HOF, Toni - One of greatest, and most important players of all time!
Kukoc was a very good player, could adapt, could score, was a bit lightweight at first but worked on that side of his game. Was a really useful cog in the Buils machine.
To those who were able to watch the Bulls play, Toni Kukoc was just one of the insane Bulls talent overshadowed by MJ. This guy is insanely clutch for a 6th man. And girls like him. F Toni Kukoc, setting the bar so high for high school girls. Asian here btw.
MJ and Scottie Bullied this man. Bruh it wasn't even fair
toni newer view it that way
Krause did that! They had to prove a point to Krause that Scottie was not a pawn..
Toni has been through way worse shit than being bullied😂
Mj and scotty were in their prime during barcelona while kukoc would gave been in his 2nd year of college if he was american
Until the age of 15, he coached football and ping pong, and from the age of 16 to 20 he conquered Europe in basketball. The greatest talent ever, he played everything from 1 to 5.
Apparently better at golf than MJ as well.
He’s literally a different gen kd he would have had so much potential if he was able to get the ball more often
I remember him playing in the Euro League at Jugoplastika and could see this guy had something that other European players just didn't have.
Kukoc, Nicos Gallis and Šarūnas Marčiulionis were my favourite European players.
You could see they had NBA potential.
i love toni kukoc 🇮🇳👍
Kukoc preteca modernih visokih igraca , realno bio je ispred svog vremena, sa 211 mogao je bez problema da igra pleja, da danas igra u ovom danasnjem NBA bio bi kandidat za MVP-ja.
Tony is top five European players of all time. Extremely unappreciated. If you played for any other team he would be in the top 50 greatest players of all time. But remember for majority of the time on the bulls he was coming off the bench as the sixth Man
Ok, there is well-known rivalry between us Serbs and Croats, but listen to me now: Toni Kukoc was probably the greatest and certainly the most gifted European player of his time! And all that compared with such masters of the game, as Vlade Divac, Dino Radja, Dejan Bodiroga, Arvydas Sabonis, Drazen Petrovic, Sarunas Marculionis...etc. Kukoc was a perfect all-rounder, he was a seven-foot guy who could shoot for three and play as a point guard! He could dribble, he could assist, he was also a prolific scorer and an ultimate clutch performer among all European players. He should be in the Hall of Fame and he should be much, much more recognized from the American basketball fans.
Hvala vam puno. ljubavi, iz hrvatske.
I'm a grown man. But when I watch and see and feel the acknowledgement of tony, I tear up a bit. Man was a beast🏀. He always tried to pass, but if he couldn't, he ruled!! And didn't get much props. He does now
Very inspiring athlete with great physique
A.k.a Pink Panther, was his 1st nickname among friends and teammates,here in Split,Croatia, when they was 13-14 years old.
Fantastic analysis, everything spot on!
False.
Agree
Didnt know KD respects Kukoć now im his fan
KD is a big student of basketball, way more clever that he sometimes makes it look to be
KD would be one of the most deserving players and students if only he wasn't the weakest superstar and with all his problems as a man and (off the court) player.
But definitely his player abilities and game studying are a guarantee of elite, especially he wouldn't miss his predecessor.
In 2020,Toni Kukoč would be a top 5 pick. Something like Luka Dončić and he would get his own team to run. Not to say that he would have the same succes in the NBA as Luka,but he would be a multiple time all-star and a franchize player. No question in my mind about that. He could shoot,pass,drible,had post moves,was a team player,lots of size,solid atlethic ability,great work ethic etc..he had it all. Is sad how many european legends were never able to show what are they capable of in the NBA. Arvydas Sabonis,if he came into the NBA while still young he would be among Walton,Kareem,Shaq,Wilt,Russell etc. He would be considered one of the all-time great centers. Also Drazen Petrović was not given a fair oportunity at the start of his career,and when he finally started going with the Nets he was taken from us way to soon. No question he would be another great NBA player if he got a chance earlier and continued playing. Not to mention guys who never went to the NBA guys like Diamantidis,Papaloukas,Vujčić,Dejan Bodiroga,Miloš Teodosić,Vasilis Spanoulis,Juan Carlos Navarro,Anthony Parker etc...in their prime all these european legends would be all-star in the NBA.
He should of been in hall of fame
Yay
Of course
Agreed.
@Alex Daniel thats not funny
No, he obviously didnt put up good enough numbers
My father played against him at age 15 (in croatia)
I,,??
They won 3 in a row not 2 with yugoplastika
Δεν πρόσεξες καλά το βίντεο μου φαίνεται.
@@NPat-zu5bh The third one was as POP-84...
MJ+Pip+Rodman+Kukoc+Kerr... And Harper, damn...🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
don't put kerr over Harper
Ahh our tonci, we miss him, to have a player like him now we would return our basketball where it belongs, he is highly underrated and should have been more prominently featured in last dance
No, you wouldn't, because your basketball is already where it belongs, and that's in a trash can.
If the Yugoslavia team didnt broke down in 92, at the Olympics, belive me the dream team would be in trouble!!!
no ... cmon . the yugo team would be awesome and really fun to watch against dream team but cmon
Would be cose game. If Yugo still existed they would beat today's USA for sure.
You'd be hard-pressed to find a team that could beat the '92 Dream Team. I certainly can't think of one.
@@sd3nsd744 u need to know that they had divac, radja, kukoc, drazen,... List goes on they won everything together so i think they could make a really close game
@@sd3nsd744 Let s make a NBA Allstars team and Ex Yugo Team nowadays !
one of my idol in basket ball 🏀 70’s to 90’s Dr J Erving , Magic , Bird , Air Jordan and Tony Kukoc !
francis dy don’t cap
Great video, I'm from Croatia and even i learned some new things!
Kukoc draws many comparisons to KD? How about KD draws many comparisons to Kukoc?
I always liked Toni and he did make a solid contribution to the Bulls second 3-peat. I love how the European Leagues develops players with all the fundamentals of the game but in the 90's, it was still quite physical in the NBA and as this vid points out, this made for a difficult transition from the Euro Leagues. Toni adapted better than many others.
He was so effin' good, that he could have been the star player on other teams.....but it payed off for him to play alongside Michael and Scottie. He eventually became a Hall O' Famer, and deservedly so. Put together his achievements, this man is a legend.
similar situation with Manu Ginobili, both were superstars in Europe but had to sacrifice it in the NBA for the betterment of the team.
nah manu was a dawg still hof to me
Glad Toni isn't old and bitter like some of the other Bulls. Great player.
this guy need to be in HOF period.
He already had a great career in Europe before going to the NBA. He lit up Europe with Jugoplastika and in Italy. He had 10 years of basketball on him before going to the NBA.
Completely agree, he sacrificed his game to ultimately be a role player for MJ. Toni did not play his natural position once Duringnhis tenure in the nba. Toni is an incredible Facilitator and Ball handler, that was his game. If Toni had his own team during his prime you would of easily seen 22PPG/7AST/7RBD splits.
Kukoc would be utilized very differently nowadays and would probably have had a more impressive NBA career. They didn't really develop big guys back then to have the kind of skills Toni had and they didn't let them use those skills regularly.
Back in the day he was my favourite European player in NBA. He was amazing wiht Bulls.
the guy KD is almost identical to is Bob Mcadoo..actually Bob Mcadoo had a 4 year stretch with incredible numbers like 30 plus ppg and 12 plus Rbnds and 3 blocks..Bob Mcadoo(over 30 years old)came to Italy and completely dominated the euroleaugue with Traser Milan just prior to Kukoc Jugoplastica.
that Rodman hug takes me back like a mug. I was in Orlando visiting Disney for the first time at age 11 watching that game across a table from folks from Utah
The only Bulls jerseys i ever bought were Kukoc, my kid owns them now.
Toni "Pink Panther"of basketball
The player...with most post game talkings about genieus moves
Such a grace in simple...but atractive "jokes"
Not about..higher, further,harder.....but about art in that game
Such a spetial player...no one is realy comperable with this guy
Thank you Toni...
You .....your playing....makes me wish to watch basketball
If Kukoc came in now, he would be like Donic. He was a sharpshooting 6‘10” playmaking guard. And he was crutch as well, fearless. If he went the team he would pass over any guard with his height, shot over them or post them up when he wanted to, and if he was double teamed, he could‘ve easily find the open guy for an assist. His only liability is in the defensive end. He was too slow to defend quicker guards and not strong enough to guard PF or C.
If he just had chosen another team but The Bulls he would be an All-Star player with a pretty promising career. He was not used to be benched. Being that good he was still pretty humble. And yet they dare to compare him with the Europeans who come to NBA nowadays. Today these European players get immediately a leading role when they arrive to NBA. Then it was impossible.
You are wrong about not having anything to prove in Europe. I remember he took the loss in the 1993 European Championship final very heavily, crying. He was in Italian club Benetton Treviso but lost to French club Limoges of B.Malkovic, that had the best defense in Europe back then. Previously in the semis they had defeated favorite PAOK from Greece, coached by Dusan Ivkovic and featuring former Bulls champion Cliff Levingston. He wanted to own a European championship before becoming NBA champion, but even he could not defeate that rock defense, lead by Slovenian playmaker legend Juri Zdovc and former 76rs player Michael Young
Kukoc je vrhunski kosarkas bio. U klasi najboljih kosarkasa ikada. From Serbia
I have been enlightened, thank you for introducing me to this legend. 🙏
who watched bulls in 90s like kukoc beside MJ, pippen and rodman
The snub in the "documentary" was pretty obvious. It didn't fit the narrative that Jordan had Hall of Fame level talent around him and he did not solo-carry his teams to those rings. Those Bulls were the most stacked team in the league, by a huge margin.
Tony was arguably the BEST Chicago Bull at times. The only thing he didn't own was the egotistical personality of Jordan and Pippen. There would be no re-3peat without Dennis, Harper and Tony, those were masterful moves to cement the Jordan legacy and the greatness of that Bulls dynasty
It's better to rethink your video titles before uploading them, Tony Kukoc is a God of basketball
legend, glad to be born in the 80's
I was born in the 80's so I saw all of those Bulls championships and saw Kukoc's NBA career and this guy was a baller and one of my favorite players. Very skilled at his height. Underrated all time
I always like Toni. I’m glad that he’s being recognized.
Totally agree with the comparison to KD. Similar height, moves and skillset. The only difference is Kukoc played 3rd option.
Everything about Toni in one place. Fantastic video!
Kukoc could have gotten AI the title. He needed more help.
If he doesn't get elected to the Naismith HOF, the selection committee would have problems. When Dino Radja (who had shorter career in NBA) is in, Toni is well-deserved, with his European and Chicago Bulls accomplishments, being part of the Big Four in the second three peat, All-Rookie Second Team and winning 6th Man of the Year.
there is always an underrated key player on a super winning team. Kukoc, Kerr, Longley.
We don't beat the pacers in game 7 without Kukoc
Toni kukoc should be in hall of fame.
This video is seriously underrated.
There was a lotta times going in to the 4th qtr the bulls would be down and pippen n Jordan would be sitting to start the 4th qtr and that 2nd 5 team off the bench would make runs. I remember against the Lakers the bulls were down 15 points gojng into the 4th qtr. I said the Lakers need to hold em under 35 points in the 4tn n they will get the win... Kukoc speed 18 in the 4th the bulls scored 37 in the 4th n won by 2. Kukoc was the man. A true 6th man that was at times better than a number 1 on the team they were playing against
3× NBA champion (1996-1998)
NBA Sixth Man of the Year (1996)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1994)
3× EuroLeague champion (1989-1991)
3× EuroLeague Final Four MVP (1990, 1991, 1993)
EuroLeague Finals Top Scorer (1990)
2× FIBA European Selection (1991 2×)
50 Greatest EuroLeague Contributors (2008)
2× Triple Crown winner (1990, 1991)
Italian League champion (1992)
Italian Cup winner (1993)
4× Yugoslav League champion (1988-1991)
2× Yugoslav Cup winner (1990, 1991)
5× Euroscar Player of the Year (1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1998)
4× Mister Europa Player of the Year (1990-1992, 1996)
3× Croatian Sportsman of the Year (1989-1991)
Franjo Bučar State Award for Sport (1992)
FIBA World Championship MVP (1990)
FIBA EuroBasket MVP (1991)
FIBA Under-19 World Cup MVP (1987)
FIBA Under-18 European Championship MVP (1986)
FIBA's 50 Greatest Players
aka Pink Panther, also a golden world champ in FIBA U-19 1987 In Bormio
11 3-pointers against USA
Greetings from Slovenia
There's a reason Kukoc was given the last shot in the game where Scottie got upset because he didn't get the shot. If you watched basketball back in the day, and could see through the hoopla...Kukoc was much better at scoring and creating off the dribble in a half court set. With Jordan out playing baseball, and playing for keeps in the playoffs...when it came down to winning over hurting the feelings of Scottie...Phil chose Kukoc to take the last shot...because he trusted Kukoc more to get the job done. He could be straight up unstoppable at times. Pippen was not as good in the half court set, one on one. Pippen's skill was in the fast break but with all due respect to Pippen, I did not consider him a player that could create his own shot, by himself and off the dribble that well in a half court set--at least not nearly as well as Toni. It's a shame that Kukoc has been swept under the rug after all these years cause he was a boss...he was more interested in winning than in ego or stats.
Spot on!
Kukoc IS thé best allaround playmaker in european History 208cm ! And top 5 european player all Time hé played in a Era when internet dont exist thé Replay and direct games young people forget about toni but in his Time he was more paid Than thé best football player in Europe.
Him and Pau Gasol, two European underrated players
Good job with the video! you did your research well.
Great video man
I hated him so much for those two final-four against Barcelona, my team when i was a kid the same way I loved watching him playing later.
There is no hatred left of me towards you, Kukoc. xd