Very very interesting. The approach you took in using “Insular” caught and kept my attention and by weaving all around a timeline … wow … I normally multitask while listening, well … your vid kept my attention in its entirety… great stuff … thanks for always thinking of Nick. 🤠
@@arkamukhopadhyay9111 The channel owner Nick was a young man with a young wife and new baby when he suddenly developed a heart condition and died. At the time his channel was more like a network, and it was really blowing up, with tons of fantastic history content. If you look at the videos going back, you can see his videos were so great, with such varied content. There are also some videos that explain about what happened to Nick. He was just going to devote himself to it fulltime when he suddenly got so sick. We were all just devastated for him and his family! But because the channel was Nick's dream, his family and his partner/narrator have done what they can to keep it going. It's notwhat it would have been if Nick was still with us, but it's still very good. We try to keep supporting it by subscribing to the channel, and always giving the videos a thumbs up, and leaving a comment, all of which really help a lot. I believe they still have a Partreon account, and a button where you can donate, to help keep this great channel going. Please also check the description area. There might be more info there.
@@arkamukhopadhyay9111 My long comment explaining to you was shaddow banned, although there was nothing in it but kindness for Nick and his family. I can't rewrite the whole thing, but here is a reduced version: Nick was a young man with a young wife and baby. He was suddenly affected by a severe heart condition, and is now gone. I have to avoid certain words I guess. The channel was becoming great when it happened, and is less without him, but since it was his dream, his family and his narrator, DW Draffin, try to keep it going. Please like this video, subscribe, and always leave a comment. It all helps.
I hope the comment that was below, which scams for "investors" has been removed, since I reported it. It has nothing to do with this channel or with Nick or DW. So if it is still visible, please report it.
If in the study of antiquity, paleogenetics indicates a conservation of only about 2 % genome from the archaic genome to modern day humans, how much can be traced in distinct groups of prevedic, vedic or post vedic relics found, if it is not such a herculean task.
Pali is the original language of the land. Aryans later pilfered it, so that they can change the meanings in their bid to usurp the legacy of earlier civilization . They later expanded the vocabulary after 1200AD.
Great introduction to Indology. Too much to compress in 35 min. Still learnt a few things. A few comments/insights. 1) Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT): This hypothesis was proposed mostly by European historians. The key word is "hypothesis". The Archeological Survey of India (ASI) through excavations & discoveries generated several evidences that invalidated AIT hypothesis. It took the west a long time, a few decades, to accept those findings and then propose the alternative, Aryan Migration Theory (AMT). 2) AMT: Neither the ASI or any historian disputes human migration including the migration of so called "Aryans". The word "Aryan" has a very different meaning in the west than it does in the Indian context. Its similar to the Swastika. The Swastika is a mere geometrical shape in the west - hooked cross. Whereas in Indian cultures, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism,.... Swastika has a much deeper meaning, simply speaking, "May the auspicious be bestowed upon you". Its deeper meaning and connotations is beyond the scope of this comment. Just Google. The point is, similar to the Swatika, the definition of "Arya" is very different in the Indian context. 3) As a continuation of #2 comment, European historians claim that Vedas were introduced into India by the so called "Aryans". This claim, again a hypothesis, defies logic because there is barely any trace of Vedic culture in the geographies where the "Aryans" supposedly came from, Iran, Steppes,....As an analogy, Roman coins were found in Patliputra, India dated to around 300 BCE. That does not mean those coins originated or were minted in India. That would be an absurd claim. So is this claim that "Aryans" introduced Vedas to India when that deep knowledge only exists in India with minimal evidence elsewhere. That does not mean certain concepts were not adopted from elsewhere. That is essentially Sanatana Dharma or what one calls "Hinduism" today. 4) Excavations at Harappa (IVC) show seals of Pashupati. IVC is pre-AMT. Pashupati is a Vedic character, another name for Shiva of the Hindu Trinity/pantheon. This and several other such evidences/artifacts combined with logic negate the hypothesis that the "Aryans" brought Vedas to India. This has nothing to do with religion or religiosity.
Refer gathas and vendidad to know that the zoroastrians called their god as asura and the vedic aryans , their rivel group , as devas !and Indra as their leader .
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg I have read about some similarities between early layers of Rigveda and Zoroastrianism, not specifically those works - Gathas, Avista's, Vendidad's...I can talk about Sukra-acharaya and asuras but lets not get into what is considered a myth today. How do we know that the Vedic knowledge/culture didn't go from India to there? European historians proposed a theory/hypothesis to fill in the blanks but with no specific evidence or logic. The Gatha's and Vendidad's are around 1500-1300 BCS. Avista around 3CE. The oral traditions could be older, similar to the Vedas. Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro, where the Pashupati seals (a Vedic character) were found, is much older. Recent excavations at Dolavera, Sinauli, Rakhigari,.....also counter the "Vedic Aryan" theory. Its a reset, just like AIT has been replaced with AIM. There is barely any trace of Sanskrit or Prakrit or Vedic culture in those areas today. Looks like the Gathas (similar to Kathas) became part of the local language/culture. Just like material flow, knowledge also flows from higher concentration to lower concentration, more so over a long period unless effected by an external factor, example - Islam's genocide of Zoroastrians in Iran. Enhancement/development of that knowledge should follow a similar path of which there is no evidence in those geographies.
Aside from having similar skin colour, the Oceania Aborigines do not have kinky hair like the Africans and some of them have blond hair. Many people weren't aware of this. One wonders whether they originated from Africa.
As an indigenous person ie Black man it doesn't matter WHERE we come from on a Black planet. This is a Black planet due to the fact that nonblack people are not naturally occurring ie autochthonous ie they are sapiens neanderthal and have not told us where they came from and how they came into being. The absence of neanderthal mtDNA raises many questions as to the true origins of so-called nonblack people. As of yet, there are no signs of them in the deep archeological past and there is no evidence of them ever inventing advanced civilization and culture. IE There was never a time when they were more civilzed than anyone else. Lastly, the fact that mainstream academics is founded upon hiding the fact that a particular group of Black people are responsible for everything associated with civilization and culture throughout history wherever we find modernity is a crime against humanity. Maybe with all the explaining socalled nonblack people do they will one day explain why they are incapable of living in peace and producing justice.
@@cattymajiv I don't think I agree with you.!..they generally have caused me much moral personal trouble and grief.......perhaps your experience has been better then mine ..but I prefer my own kind... but even they are not perfect ... but culture and religion cannot be denied as a factor in people's negative moral behavior....!..however I try not to judge a book by its cover....but generally the cover seems to unfortunately reveal the contents of the book to be sadly as I predicted ...!
@@Playerone1287 hello bad experiences plural.....and personal...!.however the previous statement is self explanatory to a wise person ,to work it out for themselves , .. !
LOL. The "most" native tribes of India (Adivasis) separated from Africans roughly 50,000 yrs ago and that's more or less the same time as that of the separation ancestors of Europeans/Middle easterners from Africans. PLUS they carry Neanderthal and Denisovan genes in almost the same proportion as the Europeans or any other race (note: Native Sub-Saharan Africans do NOT carry genes of either Neanderthals or Denisovans). After them came the creators of Indus valley civilizations (Dravidians) from what would be considered Middle east today and created a sophisticated urban civilization only to be destroyed by "illiterate" nomads also known as Aryans. And you missed the part of kicking out the Brits and especially the Portuguese (both Europeans) from India. . . . . . . . . . And do you really think that UK (with some others like lets say France, Germany, Portugal) without their daddy Sam's help can really defeat the India of today ???
Perhaps some of us are unaware that Black people are sapiens sapiens ie autochthonous beings. Socalled nonblack people are sapiens neanderthal ie mutant hybrids ie not naturally occurring. We are on a Black planet where a particular group of Black people are responsible for everything associated with civilization and culture throughout history wherever we find modernity and socalled nonblack people are not light skinned Black people. They literally have no deep past due to their inorganic origins. When we consider the fact that they have no mtDNA from a neanderthal ancestor we are left with many questions about their actual origins IE how did these people come into being? UV radiation and a negative birth rate tell us that they are not suited for life on earth. Lastly, we autochthonous beings are waiting for them to tell us where they came from and how they came into being because we know who we are and where we came from and how we came into being. The presence of sentient beings with no natural connection to reality is quite troubling when we consider their history and unknown origins.
Not deliberate misinformation but confused and misleading Really tired of the Toba ash. Madrasian is Acheulean and is as old as Africa at Attirampatnam
@@RaptorMaitre that doesn't make us african we don't have anything related to Africans culture stories or civilization just because we are same species don't mean shit
@@RaptorMaitre : Just because we evolved from people "living" in Africa (million of years ago) does NOT mean we are Africans either politically or culturally or as a matter of fact even racially. (note: NO disrespect towards any race). . . . . . And by the way, if Africans themselves truly believe that all humans are African then why don't they support opening their countries foe people from around the world to settle in Africa ??? After all we are all Africans right ???
Perhaps some of us are unaware that socalled nonblack people are not light skinned Black people and some would have us believe. We are on a planet with two different groups of people. Black people are naturally occurring ie autochthonous ie we are on a Black planet. Socalled nonblack people are sapiens neanderthal ie not naturally occurring ie hybrids. These people have no mtDNA from a neanderthal ancestor and therefore questions arise as to how they came into being.
Am not an expert but as far as ik, Homo sapiens are a type of ape, like a type of Tigers (Bengal tiger, Siberian tiger, sumatran tiger,etc). The early proven records of homo sapiens are found in Africa. So based in this alone uts concluded the start in Africa. Though its a generalised narrative. The scientific narrative is that there could have been Homo sapiens formed elsewhere too. But records such as fossils did not survive. India is not good for preservation of fossil’s. Thats why we have very few fossils. Reason: The extreme climate changes that do not help in fossilisation. So there have been theories that there may have been different ape species or humanoid species of different times roaming across India due to its location. (This is theoretical and is based on different types of tools found in around the same timeframe.) So your question is incorrect, Homo sapiens did exist all across world but the finder’s keeper concept is what applied here. Hence first or oldest proven location or record is generally narrated for ease of understanding.
Thanks DW for keeping this channel up! Much love to nicks family .. we keepin it lit!
Thank you so much DW for keeping this channel going! Much love to you and Nick's family! ❤❤❤
I am happy to have this channel active again :) I miss the original owner
Very very interesting. The approach you took in using “Insular” caught and kept my attention and by weaving all around a timeline … wow … I normally multitask while listening, well … your vid kept my attention in its entirety… great stuff … thanks for always thinking of Nick. 🤠
Merci ! I really do love your documentaries, the quality, the rigor .
You are the best among all for history unbasd and supported with
Evidence s,thanks
Insular India is fascinating. Wish it was more mainstream. It had lemurs, marsupials, and was the birth place of the cetaceans.
Great video! Would love more of such videos on India.
Learned many new things. Appreciate your efforts on getting the visuals/ pictures. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
You used a clip from the old movie beast wars, wow. What a blast from my childhood
Another one out of the park, DW! Thanks for all you offer us!
Nice over view of history of this part of the world.
Always very informative.
Thanks for keeping the channel going. RIP Nick.
Wonderful 🎉
Great work as always. But always thinking of Nick and his family
What happened?
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He passed away@@arkamukhopadhyay9111
@@arkamukhopadhyay9111 The channel owner Nick was a young man with a young wife and new baby when he suddenly developed a heart condition and died.
At the time his channel was more like a network, and it was really blowing up, with tons of fantastic history content. If you look at the videos going back, you can see his videos were so great, with such varied content. There are also some videos that explain about what happened to Nick.
He was just going to devote himself to it fulltime when he suddenly got so sick. We were all just devastated for him and his family! But because the channel was Nick's dream, his family and his partner/narrator have done what they can to keep it going. It's notwhat it would have been if Nick was still with us, but it's still very good.
We try to keep supporting it by subscribing to the channel, and always giving the videos a thumbs up, and leaving a comment, all of which really help a lot. I believe they still have a Partreon account, and a button where you can donate, to help keep this great channel going. Please also check the description area. There might be more info there.
@@arkamukhopadhyay9111 My long comment explaining to you was shaddow banned, although there was nothing in it but kindness for Nick and his family. I can't rewrite the whole thing, but here is a reduced version:
Nick was a young man with a young wife and baby. He was suddenly affected by a severe heart condition, and is now gone. I have to avoid certain words I guess. The channel was becoming great when it happened, and is less without him, but since it was his dream, his family and his narrator, DW Draffin, try to keep it going.
Please like this video, subscribe, and always leave a comment. It all helps.
Excellent!
Great video.
Excellent stuff thank you
Ancient India has some old, long history.
Much appreciated 👍
Thank you. Could you make another episode on the indian peninsula between 11thousand million years to 2 million yrs
A comprehensive overview of Southeast Asian history.
Please do one of the Caribbean natives.
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I found it…my bad.
I hope the comment that was below, which scams for "investors" has been removed, since I reported it. It has nothing to do with this channel or with Nick or DW. So if it is still visible, please report it.
If in the study of antiquity, paleogenetics indicates a conservation of only about 2 % genome from the archaic genome to modern day humans, how much can be traced in distinct groups of prevedic, vedic or post vedic relics found, if it is not such a herculean task.
Nice. Karl Rock made a video recently on the rock shelters at the UNESCO site.
Nice😊
There are Roman-era maps showing India still as an island.
Very enlightening💫. Let’s avoid the word “mutt” though as it generally frowned upon now.
I didn't hear that. You gotta be kidding! Do you really thiink dogs care?
@@cattymajiv he was speaking about humans.
Bro are those guys on horses? How did they draw horses on the walls but people say india never had horses?
We know that humans exited Africa prior to 60,000, modern genetics show that none of these earlier populations survived to modern times.
Pali is the original language of the land. Aryans later pilfered it, so that they can change the meanings in their bid to usurp the legacy of earlier civilization . They later expanded the vocabulary after 1200AD.
A mere 400 million years of history there. 😄
when and how did hippos diissapear from early india.
We hunted them out of existence for exports to Mesopotamia and Egypt 😢
@@manoj1350 same thing happened to asiatic Cheetahs.
@@manoj1350 Source?
Great introduction to Indology. Too much to compress in 35 min. Still learnt a few things. A few comments/insights.
1) Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT): This hypothesis was proposed mostly by European historians. The key word is "hypothesis". The Archeological Survey of India (ASI) through excavations & discoveries generated several evidences that invalidated AIT hypothesis. It took the west a long time, a few decades, to accept those findings and then propose the alternative, Aryan Migration Theory (AMT).
2) AMT: Neither the ASI or any historian disputes human migration including the migration of so called "Aryans". The word "Aryan" has a very different meaning in the west than it does in the Indian context. Its similar to the Swastika. The Swastika is a mere geometrical shape in the west - hooked cross. Whereas in Indian cultures, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism,.... Swastika has a much deeper meaning, simply speaking, "May the auspicious be bestowed upon you". Its deeper meaning and connotations is beyond the scope of this comment. Just Google. The point is, similar to the Swatika, the definition of "Arya" is very different in the Indian context.
3) As a continuation of #2 comment, European historians claim that Vedas were introduced into India by the so called "Aryans". This claim, again a hypothesis, defies logic because there is barely any trace of Vedic culture in the geographies where the "Aryans" supposedly came from, Iran, Steppes,....As an analogy, Roman coins were found in Patliputra, India dated to around 300 BCE. That does not mean those coins originated or were minted in India. That would be an absurd claim. So is this claim that "Aryans" introduced Vedas to India when that deep knowledge only exists in India with minimal evidence elsewhere. That does not mean certain concepts were not adopted from elsewhere. That is essentially Sanatana Dharma or what one calls "Hinduism" today.
4) Excavations at Harappa (IVC) show seals of Pashupati. IVC is pre-AMT. Pashupati is a Vedic character, another name for Shiva of the Hindu Trinity/pantheon. This and several other such evidences/artifacts combined with logic negate the hypothesis that the "Aryans" brought Vedas to India. This has nothing to do with religion or religiosity.
Refer gathas and vendidad to know that the zoroastrians called their god as asura and the vedic aryans , their rivel group , as devas !and Indra as their leader .
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg I have read about some similarities between early layers of Rigveda and Zoroastrianism, not specifically those works - Gathas, Avista's, Vendidad's...I can talk about Sukra-acharaya and asuras but lets not get into what is considered a myth today. How do we know that the Vedic knowledge/culture didn't go from India to there? European historians proposed a theory/hypothesis to fill in the blanks but with no specific evidence or logic. The Gatha's and Vendidad's are around 1500-1300 BCS. Avista around 3CE. The oral traditions could be older, similar to the Vedas. Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro, where the Pashupati seals (a Vedic character) were found, is much older. Recent excavations at Dolavera, Sinauli, Rakhigari,.....also counter the "Vedic Aryan" theory. Its a reset, just like AIT has been replaced with AIM.
There is barely any trace of Sanskrit or Prakrit or Vedic culture in those areas today. Looks like the Gathas (similar to Kathas) became part of the local language/culture. Just like material flow, knowledge also flows from higher concentration to lower concentration, more so over a long period unless effected by an external factor, example - Islam's genocide of Zoroastrians in Iran. Enhancement/development of that knowledge should follow a similar path of which there is no evidence in those geographies.
@@vijaygarikipati6087 The 6th century BCE Behistun rock insciptions tell about Ahura Mazda !
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Perhaps. Would like to visit it. Vedic culture spread far from India.
Aside from having similar skin colour, the Oceania Aborigines do not have kinky hair like the Africans and some of them have blond hair. Many people weren't aware of this. One wonders whether they originated from Africa.
As an indigenous person ie Black man it doesn't matter WHERE we come from on a Black planet. This is a Black planet due to the fact that nonblack people are not naturally occurring ie autochthonous ie they are sapiens neanderthal and have not told us where they came from and how they came into being. The absence of neanderthal mtDNA raises many questions as to the true origins of so-called nonblack people. As of yet, there are no signs of them in the deep archeological past and there is no evidence of them ever inventing advanced civilization and culture. IE There was never a time when they were more civilzed than anyone else. Lastly, the fact that mainstream academics is founded upon hiding the fact that a particular group of Black people are responsible for everything associated with civilization and culture throughout history wherever we find modernity is a crime against humanity. Maybe with all the explaining socalled nonblack people do they will one day explain why they are incapable of living in peace and producing justice.
There are many Indian natives to be fround in Britain.......?
So what? What is your point? You are lucky to have those beautiful people!
@@cattymajiv I don't think I agree with you.!..they generally have caused me much moral personal trouble and grief.......perhaps your experience has been better then mine ..but I prefer my own kind... but even they are not perfect ... but culture and religion cannot be denied as a factor in people's negative moral behavior....!..however I try not to judge a book by its cover....but generally the cover seems to unfortunately reveal the contents of the book to be sadly as I predicted ...!
@@lightningspirit2166what was your bad experience with them
@@Playerone1287 hello bad experiences plural.....and personal...!.however the previous statement is self explanatory to a wise person ,to work it out for themselves , .. !
@@lightningspirit2166maybe if the Brits didn’t take over their country for centuries then you wouldn’t have immigrants from there lol
Suprise
Sanauli skeletons dont have steppe genome
So they are Africans who got conquered by Indo-Europeans and then by Europeans. good to know.
By that standard Europeans and Indo-Europeans are Africans and/or middle eastern and Siberian people.
how tf they will be Africans did early european hunter gatherers born out of thin air😅
LOL. The "most" native tribes of India (Adivasis) separated from Africans roughly 50,000 yrs ago and that's more or less the same time as that of the separation ancestors of Europeans/Middle easterners from Africans. PLUS they carry Neanderthal and Denisovan genes in almost the same proportion as the Europeans or any other race (note: Native Sub-Saharan Africans do NOT carry genes of either Neanderthals or Denisovans).
After them came the creators of Indus valley civilizations (Dravidians) from what would be considered Middle east today and created a sophisticated urban civilization only to be destroyed by "illiterate" nomads also known as Aryans. And you missed the part of kicking out the Brits and especially the Portuguese (both Europeans) from India.
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And do you really think that UK (with some others like lets say France, Germany, Portugal) without their daddy Sam's help can really defeat the India of today ???
Perhaps some of us are unaware that Black people are sapiens sapiens ie autochthonous beings. Socalled nonblack people are sapiens neanderthal ie mutant hybrids ie not naturally occurring. We are on a Black planet where a particular group of Black people are responsible for everything associated with civilization and culture throughout history wherever we find modernity and socalled nonblack people are not light skinned Black people. They literally have no deep past due to their inorganic origins. When we consider the fact that they have no mtDNA from a neanderthal ancestor we are left with many questions about their actual origins IE how did these people come into being? UV radiation and a negative birth rate tell us that they are not suited for life on earth. Lastly, we autochthonous beings are waiting for them to tell us where they came from and how they came into being because we know who we are and where we came from and how we came into being. The presence of sentient beings with no natural connection to reality is quite troubling when we consider their history and unknown origins.
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After British colonialism now comes the Germans (DW).
that came after Indo-Iranian colonialism
If an event does not affect humans, it cannot be a "catastrophe, by definition
Nitpicking.
R haplogroup did not originate in India. And calling a prehistoric tribal group as veda is clearl a Hindu bias.
😂😂😂😂 yes it did and new studies are revealing it so keep crying
Not deliberate misinformation but confused and misleading
Really tired of the Toba ash.
Madrasian is Acheulean and is as old as Africa at Attirampatnam
Stop spread lies man ,
Heggarty et al supports a ie origin of ivc
Moorjani et al now proposes sarazm route
Out Africa
😂😂😂😂 clearly you lack education in geography
Geography much 😂😂😂
Pali is the original language of India it was later hijacked ,distorted & expanded by later Aryan
😂😂😂😂 Sanskrit predates pali clearly your education is in periyar university
🤮🤮🤮 no logic
I ain't no African
Honey we humans are all african with just added on skins.
@@RaptorMaitre that doesn't make us african we don't have anything related to Africans culture stories or civilization just because we are same species don't mean shit
Earthlings…
@@RaptorMaitre : Just because we evolved from people "living" in Africa (million of years ago) does NOT mean we are Africans either politically or culturally or as a matter of fact even racially. (note: NO disrespect towards any race).
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And by the way, if Africans themselves truly believe that all humans are African then why don't they support opening their countries foe people from around the world to settle in Africa ??? After all we are all Africans right ???
Perhaps some of us are unaware that socalled nonblack people are not light skinned Black people and some would have us believe. We are on a planet with two different groups of people. Black people are naturally occurring ie autochthonous ie we are on a Black planet. Socalled nonblack people are sapiens neanderthal ie not naturally occurring ie hybrids. These people have no mtDNA from a neanderthal ancestor and therefore questions arise as to how they came into being.
Just out Africa Stop talking about Dnorsors Saying oil deposits Later Whiteman no Written Books University no Written Books
He thinks his father's are apes.
Can anyone point me to the reason why homo sapiens had to originate from Africa? Why couldn't they have originated within India? Thanks.
Am not an expert but as far as ik,
Homo sapiens are a type of ape, like a type of Tigers (Bengal tiger, Siberian tiger, sumatran tiger,etc).
The early proven records of homo sapiens are found in Africa. So based in this alone uts concluded the start in Africa. Though its a generalised narrative.
The scientific narrative is that there could have been Homo sapiens formed elsewhere too. But records such as fossils did not survive.
India is not good for preservation of fossil’s. Thats why we have very few fossils.
Reason: The extreme climate changes that do not help in fossilisation.
So there have been theories that there may have been different ape species or humanoid species of different times roaming across India due to its location. (This is theoretical and is based on different types of tools found in around the same timeframe.)
So your question is incorrect, Homo sapiens did exist all across world but the finder’s keeper concept is what applied here.
Hence first or oldest proven location or record is generally narrated for ease of understanding.