Real Road Test: Fiat Multipla! (Type 186) - Awful or Genius?

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  • @Hairnicks
    @Hairnicks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I loved mine, all the three back seats lift out completely, very easily, leaving you with a massive load space. We had it when we had 4 kids, annoyingly I got randy one night and we had a 5th and ran out of seats.

    • @interceptor-ss8kb
      @interceptor-ss8kb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or the 5th kid saved you from one ugly vehicle. 🤷‍♂️

    • @saab900classic6
      @saab900classic6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@interceptor-ss8kb or keep the car and get rid of an ugly kid

    • @jean-pierredeclemy7032
      @jean-pierredeclemy7032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What replaced it then, my choice would have been a Citroen CX or Peugeot 504 familiale. In fact we had two CXs with just one kid and a dog. (serially, not both at once). The trouble was, I was always designated driver because I had the car that all my drinking friends could go out in.

    • @Hairnicks
      @Hairnicks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saab900classic6 ha ha ha, they're all gorgweous!!

    • @a.b.6233
      @a.b.6233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or you could have bought a trailer to put in the back and made a 6th, 7th and 8th kid. Or simply do what I did after the 3rd, change hobby.

  • @stewartellinson8846
    @stewartellinson8846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I'm on the side of "Genius" and the distinctive styling is fab. I'd always go for the diesel option and i may have to fight with kippers you for one. Then again, I can't really justify another car (A bike, on the other hand...)

    • @robenglish416
      @robenglish416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lovely odd design, a plus in my book. Would be interesting to compare to Honda FR-V, which is more conventional but still a little odd.

  • @timhancock6626
    @timhancock6626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The revamped Multipla turned eccentricity into invisibility. The original ( i mean this one not the rear engined one) was brilliant, it's people who are fickle. The front vent is a face if you look carefully.

    • @caw25sha
      @caw25sha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      According to Wikipedia the Telegraph review said they were "desperately sad that the new Multipla no longer resembles a psychotic cartoon duck".

    • @TheAllyMor
      @TheAllyMor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, the facelifted version was a shocker by comparison.

    • @craigmclean8260
      @craigmclean8260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@caw25sha Funny! The new U.S. Postal Service vans (I think they're built by Grumman) have an odd resemblance to a duck head, rather like this Multipla.

    • @jonnycando
      @jonnycando 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@craigmclean8260 It’s actually built by Oshkosh….Grumman built the last one…the new ones are some kind of strange looking though.

    • @craigmclean8260
      @craigmclean8260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonnycando Ah, okay...did not know that...thanks!

  • @volvo480
    @volvo480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Some 10 years ago, a friend of mine needed a practical car because his wife is wheelchair-bound. And it needed to take him to work reliably.
    As he has really zero interest nor knowledge of cars, I suggested him to look for the van version of a Fiat Multipla JTD (no back seats and rear windows covered). He found one with a colour like in this video and it brought him many pleasant miles. The three seats abreast were more wide and comfortable than those in my car, a Matra Murena. Surely the car was mocked by others but criticism was countered immediately by its practicality and it surely drove better than a van.
    Unfortunately the car was killed in quite a spectacular crash on the motorway by a speeding drunk driver who caused such a carnage it was in the news.
    We couldn't find a suitable successor and finally settled for a Dacia Logan MCV, which is an equally underrated car.

    • @brianwhittington5086
      @brianwhittington5086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was a wheelchair accessible Multipla car conversion, a friend has recently bought a used one. Fold down rear ramp that will support a heavy electric wheelchair. The floor is altered to allow the wheelchair to go right through to the front passenger side and be lashed down. I think it leaves it as a 4 seat, plus the front wheelchair space as the middle front seat is lost. Not sure if the middle rear seat is retained or lost, but the outer rear seats are made to fold sideways to allow the wheelchair access to the front.

    • @NenadTrajkovic
      @NenadTrajkovic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the fiat 500L is the direct successor to the multipla, even looking the same from behind

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  • @MrJohnQCitizen
    @MrJohnQCitizen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I used to drive brand spanking new Fiat's off the ship at Portbury Docks. Always admired the innovative design of the Multipla. A fine mechanised beast indeed Sire!

  • @TheUnwritersOfficialChannel
    @TheUnwritersOfficialChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!! We are new owners of a 2008 1.9 diesel model. When we tried it, we didn't hesitate for a second. This car is fantastic !!

  • @andrewmoorhouse687
    @andrewmoorhouse687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A great piece of design. Fiat were really on a roll looks-wise at the time; the Bravo and Brava were real lookers too and different to anything else. My brother had a 1.6 petrol Bravo in a similar dark blue. It was a cracking car. Car design seems to go in phases between safe and brave and Fiat had definitely swallowed some brave pills in the nineties. I do wonder if these cars encouraged Ford to be bold with its Mk1 Focus? Another great piece of design in my book and remains a favourite among those I’ve owned. I sometimes toy with the idea of owning another.

  • @chuckmorris7553
    @chuckmorris7553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I owned the JTD for a couple of years. It was a fantastic car, infinitely better than the dreadful Zafira that replaced it.......

    • @lodekka
      @lodekka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I too had a the JTD, then (after a Picasso) the Zafira diesel. It was a car with a particularly badly designed interior and had the most uncomfortable car seat I've ever sat on. It felt more grown-up than either the Picasso or Multipla and had better suspension, but really was dire as an MPV.

  • @d2factotum
    @d2factotum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I've often thought that if Fiat spent half as much attention to detail on actually putting the cars together as they do on their industrial design their cars would be truly Godly.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bit like Peugeot and Renault. High spec sturdy cars with good engines and cheap. but shit just goes rong.

    • @d2factotum
      @d2factotum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chrishart8548 To be fair there, the Dacia Sandero I've had for three years (which is basically a grab bag of Renault components) has been almost entirely reliable, touch wood, and it's certainly better built than the Fiat Panda I owned before it.

    • @johnmiller9024
      @johnmiller9024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fiat=Fix it again Tony 😜

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@d2factotum those dacia cars seem to be doing OK but they need to be. People would love to hate on them if they turn out crap. Must be the tried and tested Renault/Nissan parts.

    • @p166mx
      @p166mx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@d2factotum I had a had a Panda 2010 for 7 years since new, to be fair the interior build quality was while looking cheap was supurb. Nothing snapped or broke off but there were a few too many silly electrical issues which I ended up having to fix myself. I think towards the engine the gear linkage was failing too, although fours later I spotted the car on the road and according to the MOT history it is still going strong. I am not sure if anybody fixed the linkage or it was just me being fussy :D

  • @multislipful
    @multislipful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I owned one from 2001 until 2010. My children adored it, and there was usually some discussion about who would ride in the front middle. You did miss that the rear seats could be removed easily after pulling one tag, making the Multipla into a very commodious van. The upper front lights were for main beam only. Mine was a diesel, handled well, and could easily manage a family trip to somewhere deep in France. It was very frugal. I actually liked its looks. Anyhow, for those who don’t, you cannot see the outside when you’re on the inside! I definitely think there ought to be a Hubnutipla on your fleet.

  • @andrewstones2921
    @andrewstones2921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I want one! I can’t believe these have been overlooked for so long. Back in 2000 I was working for a firm of accountants and one of the senior partners bought one of these for his wife, of course we laughed and mocked at the time but I recall him telling us how unique it was.. anyway at the time they were all new, then I went off to Asia to work for 16 years and on my return I found myself looking for a good one of these and there were none… I’ve been half heartedly looking now for almost 5 years and I’ve yet to see a minter for sale in RHD.

    • @brendanstorey7005
      @brendanstorey7005 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi before i list my multipla i liked your message,it's time to say goodbye to my multipla mechanically it's very good has its faults I've had it over 10 years and it's got full mot and a full tank of fuel and it's the mark 1 message me if your interested 😎

  • @lr_s3102
    @lr_s3102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Doug DeMuro reviewed one a while back and couldn't stop laughing at how strange it was.
    Although I think he was genuinely impressed with it when it was one the road!

  • @andrewpreston4127
    @andrewpreston4127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really good review, thank you. Even though I was never in need of a multi-multi seater vehicle, I've always liked the looks of the original Multipla. Dash and instrument area too.

  • @neverquit2470
    @neverquit2470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Multipla has more sense nowadays than before: if Stellantis decide to relaunch this amazing model in an electrical version it will succeed!😊...Maybe in a suv new design!

    • @Candisa
      @Candisa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, not an SUV, those are the opposite of a Multipla: huge on the outside, claustrophobic on the inside. All the Multipla needs are sleek colour coded bumpers, braver colours (the bravest colour the Multipla ever came in was a darkish red, it needs the colour range of the first Renault Twingo), projector headlights (same shape!), and better interior plastics to bring it right back to market with a modern (hybrid) drivetrain.

    • @Perkelenaattori
      @Perkelenaattori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The ID Buzz will need competition. I seriously hope they do.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Perkelenaattori yes! With floors that big you can easily get 300-400mi ranges (so 200-300 in winter; still very very practicable)

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kaitlyn__L
      Its like the mk 1Twingos big bro and yes its much more ahead of 80% of what we have now and so good for repowering.
      As for the hand brake a dash mounted pull and twist or squeeze would have been a spot on feature.😎
      Personally ive never been a big fan of sun roofs 🤔..leaks and tend you tend to get your head and neck burnt. 😥

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 oh crap I didn’t even think about recharging the chair in the car! That’s definitely another benefit for a big day out. And yeah a central handbrake (or a modem electric handbrake) would be a must.
      Sunroofs are always divisive! My father felt the same as you so I loved travelling in friends’ cars when they did have sunroofs haha.

  • @garrymartin6474
    @garrymartin6474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    A harsh quote from the Sunday Times, "The tragedy of the Multipla is that its Elephant Man esque exterior enclosed a genuinely clever and spacious interior, and it wasn’t bad to drive, either. It’s a shame, then, that you’d rather walk than be seen in it." The revamped version reminds me of a giant Panda !

    • @Endfloat
      @Endfloat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I won a giant panda at the fun fair once.

    • @LFBsmokealarm
      @LFBsmokealarm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Endfloat Good work sir!

    • @Moggster23
      @Moggster23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Endfloat how did it drive?

    • @smithp573
      @smithp573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The facelift ended up looking like an Idea that’d held in one too many farts.

    • @Endfloat
      @Endfloat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Moggster23 a bit woolly.

  • @shand1967
    @shand1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My brother in law had the bug eye and the later facelifted version, both turbo diesels. I borrowed his bug eye one for a family holiday in Suffolk. Brilliant family car. You get used to the width and with that central seat folded it makes a great space for drinks and sandwiches etc.Mr Furious Driving would love it. Both my brother in laws Multiplas did thousands of miles with no problem and he loved them.
    I have driven a FRV and that great too. Might be a better bet for you.

  • @chriswhite3378
    @chriswhite3378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An ex partner of mine used to have one of these with the diesel engine which I drove from time to time and I must say it was a really nice car to drive. Enjoyable review Ian.

  • @googleuser2571
    @googleuser2571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both people I know that had these absolutely raved about them (and still do). Practical, handy and surprisingly tough family workhorses. They were both diesels.

  • @duncanmartin2626
    @duncanmartin2626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a diesel one - bought with over 200,000 miles and sold when it had done 276,000 miles! It had been chipped up to about 150bhp too (if you go higher the clutch becomes an issue). There were loads of quirks (like the door handles that stick up so you have to slap them down or the doors won't shut), but it's an astoundingly practical car.
    Some lunatics in Poland put the 20VT engine from a FIAT Coupe into one - that looked spectacular.

  • @chrislaf2011
    @chrislaf2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a Multipla just like this as a company car, chosen to accommodate two young children, and have ability to take six people in total. I think the design was brilliant, and very underrated. The layout of three abreast seating was a clever way of maximising space usage. The quirky exterior design gave it a higher level of character, which most cars, then and now lack. The interior features were also very well thought through and executed. For example, the three rear seats could be completely removed if needed; the door pulls were big and chunky. The interior was clean and light from the twin sun-roofs. All in all it was a car designed to really function, but with a lot of style too. It wasn't designed to satisfy the boy-racer or attempt to appeal to them, and was all the better for that. If there was one down side, I'd say it was the boot space was too small. If they'd added maybe an extra 20cms to the length and increased the boot volume it would have been almost perfect as a family + friends car for everyday or holiday. And it was fun to drive too, I miss it!

  • @simonduckworth5941
    @simonduckworth5941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ‘Time has been kind to this’ - Spot on Ian. Really enjoyed your review 👍

  • @danieleregoli812
    @danieleregoli812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing bit of engineering, practical, spacious, reliable, frugal, comfortable....you name it. But boy was it ugly! My uncle had three JTDs in a row. Still misses them these days.

  • @TheOmegastoopreme
    @TheOmegastoopreme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to have a brava (yes the 5 door one with the funky lights) and it was fantastic to drive. Always wondered what one of these would be like as it was basically a brava with a stovepipe hat.

  • @gazgandalf4854
    @gazgandalf4854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like the Multiple when it first came out, it broke the mould of 'roach' shaped cars. Like you Ian, I enjoy unusual cars - they're so much more interesting.

  • @icascone
    @icascone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oooh the late 90's!!
    Thank you for doing this... I remember in the late 90's there seemed to be great excitment and getting ready for the new millenium there also seemed to be an economic boom... I also recall your video of the Fiat Bravo in NZ!
    I do remember those and liked them because they were different, but still yarned for the Opel Vectra wagon with the black roof rack rails... Oh well...
    I also recall you saying how car design really peaked in the late 90's/early 2000's and it does reflect how times have changed since.... Sign.........Let's hope for better times though!

  • @petervanriet5389
    @petervanriet5389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've always loved the design. It's a nineties interpretation of the old horse carriage. What the first cars were: horse carriage with an engine. These old cars usually had en extra set of headlights. And the roofline of the Multipla reminds me of these old softtops that the oldest cars had. The design is absolutely brilliant.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d not looked at it that way before but I totally see it!

  • @TrevorBuick
    @TrevorBuick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had a Marea weekend estate with the 5 cylinder 20valve, lovely sound

  • @stippolyte
    @stippolyte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Y E S you need to buy one, would love to see a V6 or i5 conversion, possibly even a turbo 😁 . I miss the hanging bootstrap closer on the hatch of my Octavia 4*4. Is the Xedos in the video not worthy of a Hubnut mention, loved the 6 & 9 when new.

    • @ZIGZAG12345
      @ZIGZAG12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES, I enjoyed the Multipla review, but I too was eyeing that Xedos with some appreciation!
      Can't remember the last time I saw a real one with my own eyes...

    • @Andrew.bergin
      @Andrew.bergin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a Xedos. It is a sublime drive. A car I will never sell.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is at least one Multipla that had a Fiat Coupe 20VT engine conversion. Having owned 20VT Coupe, that must have been an entertaining car.

  • @christopherford1800
    @christopherford1800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hated the look of these when they first came out but over the years it grown on me I would go as far to say I would have one very practical and Fiat not a bad engine thanks Ian nice to see an in depth look of this

  • @garymackin2368
    @garymackin2368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I owned a jtd for 2 years. Loved it, mad as a box of frogs. Having a middle seat for Bella( my dog) to snuggle me was magnificent and the ability to remove the seats and turn it into a van was incredible. On the down side it was equipped with Italian electrics. It ran out of electric one night in Wales. No reason, it just did. In the lake district all the rear bulbs blew at 9pm one evening. Only found out when a dibble pulled me over. Even the bloody number plate bulbs. Stuck a porsche badge on the bonnet and bloody loved it. Did over 50mpg No matter how you thrashed it. They grow on you

  • @stephenswift9868
    @stephenswift9868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like these a lot! Such personality and practicality. Apparently they handled quite well, it was width versus the relatively short length that made them so.

  • @Fogeyspasm
    @Fogeyspasm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant car. Loads of space inside, superb visibility, loved the dash and beat this. Took ours for a few laps round Donington race circuit after Touring Cars. Handled pretty well for an MPV.

  • @trevatkin4869
    @trevatkin4869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm with you on this one Ian, I think because it is different it's great. I love the interior door handle areas, they remind me of either handbags or like a radio with a round handle.

  • @jarlrise
    @jarlrise 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's about the same width as a mk4 Mondeo, but being close to a meter shorter really makes it look very wide :)
    Good video as always!

  • @KLUTCHdot58
    @KLUTCHdot58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review as usual. The 5 cylinder is a possibility as I saw one in Italy a few years ago with a turbo 5 banger installed. Unfortunately I couldn't get to speak to the chap that built it.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was at least one conversion in the UK that used the turbocharged IL5 220bhp engine from the Fiat Coupe 20VT

    • @alexandermathar7780
      @alexandermathar7780 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The turbo 5cyl boosted to 450 HP. All seats removed except the driver's seat and you've got a 10 sec dragster !

  • @arnonmus1
    @arnonmus1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from Australia HubNut what a lovely video you have produced, not that your other content lacks for anything but I love it when you test cars such as this. You are a lot braver than I am in being prepared to live with a decades old Fiat I must say, all the componentry in that car would be way past its Turin design life.

  • @DavidColex
    @DavidColex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:29 the Alfa 156 platform was derived from the Bravo/Brava, but it was different in at least 60% of its architecture. Also the engine mounts weren't the same except for the 1.9 jtd versions. All in all a Busso Multipla would require much welding and cutting.

  • @SuperFIFTHGEAR
    @SuperFIFTHGEAR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I last visited Krown, probably around 11 months ago Rob mentioned replacing the Alfa as it needed work, but didn't think he'd get one of these. In regards to the Krown product I had my Golf undercoated there originally in November 2018, I then went back last October and was impressed that so much of the car was still covered. Rob there recommended me leaving it 3-4years before going back. He only reapplied the product underneath the car, but really impressed with Krown.

  • @lrochfort
    @lrochfort 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Dad had two of these 10 to 15 years ago and he loved them. The diesel seemed quite torqy and didn't have too much drivetrain shunting. It makes a great van, too, of course.

  • @MapleMarmite
    @MapleMarmite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Definitely in the category of ‘Not for me when new - but yes, please, now.’ Would be an ideal HubNut family limo.
    Not just me who uses the handbrake, then. Here in Canada, front seat passengers go in to panic when I apply the ‘emergency brake’ for a hill start in a manual. Also, if you encounter someone who drives a manual, you often hear the complaint that people get too close behind them on a hill because they ‘need to roll back a bit to drive ahead’… I do leave plenty of room for people to do that now I’ve seen a few doing a dubious pedal shuffle.

    • @collinhunter9792
      @collinhunter9792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      omg,imagine doing hill starts with a roll back tbh, British examiners would have heart failure!!!!!!

    • @MapleMarmite
      @MapleMarmite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think a lot of the problem is that they mostly instruct people in automatics and, unlike the UK, once you have passed your test in the auto it qualifies you to drive a manual as well. So most people that go on to drive a manual have either taught themselves or been shown by family or friend.

  • @markonmotoring
    @markonmotoring 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When these launched I was firmly in the "what on earth is that, the front looks weird" camp, but....
    It's very interesting now, especially that interior which is so bright and I really like all that colour including in the dash and rear parcel shelf. All those curves inside are so late 90s which is definitely a good thing (as a late 90s car owner myself).
    I expect a lot of family fun could be had in that car.

  • @KiwiStag74
    @KiwiStag74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When these came out and I first saw one on the motorway heading to work, I was so distracted by its differences to anything I had seen before, that I wasn't paying enough attention to where I was going and nearly clipped a median barrier. A first for me....
    I could not figure out who made them because I was distracted by its......er......unique.... ...front end styling. Words like "aaaaarrrggghhhh!" and "aaaaarrrggghhhh!" again, along with phrases along the lines of "what were they thinking?" and "they really swatted it with the ugly stick, didn't they?", interspersed with many Anglo-Saxon epithets used as adjectives, verbs, adverbs, conjunctions and exclamations were used. To say the reasons behind the styling were lost on me was an understatement!
    However, time has been good to the Multipla. We have had many other "unique" designs since then and so its initially "way out there" looks seem to have been tamed somewhat. I must admit that the outside view of the vehicle put me off so much that I never dared look inside, let alone drive one in case someone thought I light actually LIKE it. Your video, Ian, has opened my eyes and shown me what I was missing out on. It looks to be a rather well thought out and practical vehicle (handbrake excepted).
    For instance, I never knew that you could get to ALL of the engine under its bonnet! I always thought it would be the same as other MPVs and pretty much be inaccessible for the most part. I truly like the three-abreast seating and the boot space with the seats still up is surprisingly spacious given the very deceptive cargo blind. I also LOVE the twin sunroof idea - something that (as I grew up in the 70s and 80s) would have been a lovely feature for me as a kid, looking into the sky and also for the additional ventilation seeing as both of my parents smoked and we ended up with a face-full of hot ash if we had our side window open.
    Thinking about it though, it only has one extra seat than Betty the Fairmont....and the Fairmont would have a similar parking size issue (as did my many Commodores). However, if I asked you which you would prefer to drive, I believe I would know the unhesitating answer you would give me.
    I have never understood the MPV market space as I have also driven a Mitsubishi L300 Sportpac coach and thought that if you wanted seating for more than 5 people, then this was a better way to go....and it has more space to boot. What does an MPV have over a well-trimmed van?
    I drove my sister's Mazda MPV a few times and totally disliked the fact of the rear seating being more or less up against the tailgate for the same reason you do....so they have that in common with a van. I liked the power of the V6 that was in the MPV, but did not like the driving position or the fact that it felt like I was driving a fully loaded van. It was very frumpy, rolly and pitchy on the road and I felt my will to live draining out of me to the rumble, drone and echo in that hateful beige interior, whereas the Sportpac seemed more refined and I expected it to behave the way it did on the road The MPV remains one of the worst vehicles I have ever driven for enjoyment factor and, to me, something I could never drive long distance without getting quite grumpy. I hope that is not the same in the Multipla......
    I've just seen your 'reveal' of the one you've purchased, so in time you will be able to report back on what its like to live with. I truly hope it's better than my experience with the Mazda!
    All the best.

  • @cachebangwallop3482
    @cachebangwallop3482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as ever! Well done for belatedly remembering the Honda FRV...just to mention you also forgot the McLaren F1 😉

  • @tallblokesam
    @tallblokesam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always liked the Multipla, I worked at a bodyshop that repaired Motability cars when they were current and they were very popular with the older generation that could easily step into them and fit scooters and chairs in the boot.
    It'd be good to find the often forgotten Honda FRV for a comparison test, we used to see a fair few of them too.

  • @IanSlothieRolfe
    @IanSlothieRolfe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never had a Multipla but nearly did but instead bought the much derided Hyundai Matrix (a 2004 model if I recall) and found it to be a great little car despite the almost universal disdain it attracted. It was a little quirky looking, but not particularly so. It was also fantastically comfortable to drive, even filled with passengers. I wish I still had it sometimes.... If one comes your way its worth a look.

  • @connelp72
    @connelp72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always had a soft spot for these, although I appreciate they were very marmite. I think this era was an excellent one for Fiat designs. Another great HubNut vid!

  • @In_memory_of_Dad
    @In_memory_of_Dad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ian if you like the 1.6 version you absolutely must try a diesel version. The diesel version is so much better and if I'm honest in 25 years of driving and having a wide array of cars the engine in the diesel Multipla is one of the best engines iv ever had in a vehicle. My friend used his as a taxi and managed to rack up 326000 miles in his on the same engine and gearbox it was made with having only 1 clutch replacement and servicing the vehicle very very regularly. And it is still on the road being used now by his wife as its the perfect car for their grandchildren. I wouldn't have a petrol version Ian but I can tell you the diesel is a very good car...🙂👍👍👍

  • @garygriffiths2911
    @garygriffiths2911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's hard to imagine a more 'Marmite' vehicle - i.e a car that you either love or loathe. I happy to find myself in the 'love' camp. Unfortunately for Fiat almost everyone brought a Zafira instead and presumably chose not to think what might happen to their kids in the event of a rear end shunt ...

  • @admiralalcatraz6080
    @admiralalcatraz6080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have always liked the Multipla, very nearly bought a 1.6 but didn't. Can't find any now.
    At least the handbrake is tucked back by the seat, I had a Citroen Dispatch and kicked it out getting out on a hill, which didn't end well.

  • @niklaswejedal463
    @niklaswejedal463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always loved these! Typically, I love one-box-MPVs like the Espace I - IV and similar, with their high-speed-train-look, but this is just so charming and quirky, I just have to adore it. I'd say any modern premium SUV is by far more ugly than this. It is playful in the same was as the original Renault Twingo - you have to be a pretty boring person not to like it. I support your idea to look in the classifieds to the fullest! Do it - do it - do it! :D

  • @gib112
    @gib112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The plush version is the Rover James 😁

  • @andrewthompsonuk1
    @andrewthompsonuk1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always liked the crazy looks of the Multipla.. To me the revised version just spolt it. However I think that about all cars, the first version of the shape always looks better than a revised version after 20 years or so.

  • @warren6815
    @warren6815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good example of function over fashion. Having said that I think it's a fantastic bit of design. Very distinctive and unique, unlike the vast majority of cars on sale today. It's a shame manufacturers are unwilling to be this different nowadays.

  • @waynetetley584
    @waynetetley584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Some angles reminds me of the smaller Renault Modus. Great test. 3 abreast in the spirit of the Matra Simca Bagheera 👍😊

  • @ryo.hayshed_mcmlxix
    @ryo.hayshed_mcmlxix 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 2010 (dull-looking) Multipla II with 1.9 JTD, bought secondhand with 150k km on clock. Brilliant.
    When I was looking for one, the dealer said to avoid other engine option (“Bi-Power”, gas/petrol) if we’re on hills (Italian hills). JTD indeed is a good motor.
    Our local mechanic said “this IS a car FIAT should be proud to have made”. I agree.
    On my LHD car, there’s no problem with the position of handbrake lever.

  • @LeightonW87
    @LeightonW87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That blue colour really complements the design of the Multipla, dare I say it makes it look quite nice, I teased the wife about getting a Multipla for my next car awhile ago but she didn't like the thought of that. shame that they are becoming harder to find, at the time of writing this I could only find one non facelift Multipla on ebay.

  • @robingray1302
    @robingray1302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's been a long time coming but well worth the wait for you and us too evidently, I always kinda knew you'd lie it !! Interestingly the original 600 Multipla (you'll HAVE to try one of those too...) didn't really disappear but morphed into the 600T and 850T commercials best know over here as the basis for the cutesy camper vans so coveted these days !

  • @Jam3sA
    @Jam3sA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do love the changes occurring with Mr. Hubnut. What platform sharing "interesting" engines will fit in a Multipla? I do like the sound of a 5-pot. Multipla HGT?

  • @EmyrDerfel
    @EmyrDerfel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Multipla is easier to park than a Ducato, but van-spec mirrors and knowing how to reverse into parking bays definitely make life easier.
    I drive a Peugeot Boxer L3 = 6m long, which is about 1.3 standard bay lengths.

  • @ukbeeps
    @ukbeeps 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can remember a family member having this car and they absolutely loved it.

  • @craigmclean8260
    @craigmclean8260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a delightful vehicle that we never got in the States! The "quirky/unique/practicality" was a big reason why I chose a Honda Element as a new car/SUV in 2003 (when they were new). Very handy for loading things (they were very popular w/ dog-groomers/dog-owners), but only four seats. Similar gear lever placement, but like the Multipla, it revved out to 3800 RPM at 75 MPH; I wished it had a 6th gear.

  • @ianfrost3529
    @ianfrost3529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My stepdad hired a 1.6 petrol years ago to go on holiday to Scotland from Plymouth he hated the looks but the car really grew on him on his time away.
    And down here a fare few diesel versions were used has taxis they have since switched to the Honda FRV another odd ball

  • @julianowens4071
    @julianowens4071 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought one about 17 years ago,loved it but was bullied so much by friends I sold it.sadly because now I’m older I couldn’t really care less what people think
    Great review as always
    Cheers

  • @peterriggall8409
    @peterriggall8409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Hubnut. Great relaxed video as usual. Did not get these in Australia for some reason. Toyota Tarago seem to have the market sown up in that era.

  • @mattw8332
    @mattw8332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to go back and watch the road test that spawned the latest purchase!
    Did the Krown wax protection place use to be a car wash?

  • @alastairwarwick2724
    @alastairwarwick2724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid as usual. Have always loved these, but then I was 12 when they came out and I'm well aware of my rose-tinted fondness for 90s fluid design compared to today's offerings.
    Cameos for Xedos and a yellow 156 (!) only makes this even more re-watchable

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Ian! In the Netherlands there is at least one which has a 5 pot fitted. If you want one I suggest you find a diesel with a working aircon 😁👍

  • @fr4nn4
    @fr4nn4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always been a fan of these! Few (if any) small MPV's are memorable or distinctive - have to respect Fiat for cladding ingenious packaging in such a bold design - "ugly" is unfortunately most people's synonym for "different" 😣

  • @timbre7999
    @timbre7999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Multiplay is a wonderful car and in that lovely blue quite attractive I think.
    Always loved that early Multipla wheel design; the best looking FIAT wheels of that era.

  • @Twmpa
    @Twmpa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We ran a 2001 JTD ELX for 11 years and 80000 miles. We did everything with it including a house move, towing a four berth caravan to Fort William (from the West Midlands) and many other things. Almost faultlessly reliable the whole way apart from a freak failure which meant I had to change the gearbox and, despite many media reports to the contrary, the engine never consumed a drop of oil between changes. Brilliant car.

  • @Imacomingtoo
    @Imacomingtoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a much nicer car than the PT cruiser you borrowed recently personally I wouldn't mind one

  • @alansimpson835
    @alansimpson835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A brilliant piece of distinctive design that is properly practical to boot! It definitely looked better pre facelift. I think one would be very happy on the Hubnut fleet

  • @allanfoster6965
    @allanfoster6965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do not worry about the width. Take a Hublet and use the family spaces which are wider. Mind you it is not as huge and ungainly as any of the modern Leutenant Grüber's 'Little Tank' (aka. Any Audi/Merc SUV). 😊👍👍

  • @In_memory_of_Dad
    @In_memory_of_Dad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will say the diesel version is an absolute peach and extremely good on fuel...👍

  • @andrewthompsonuk1
    @andrewthompsonuk1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see you outside Krone Rustproofing, I think you need to spend more time there...

  • @inindian
    @inindian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That #UGLY sticker on the driver's side cowl of the small-van-within-a-car is an unwarranted apology to the great unwashed of motorists. #ODDBALL I would accept, but never ugly.

  • @DavidMorley
    @DavidMorley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one for a while with my 3 young kids. Really not bad! When it rained the dash used to beep and flash warnings at me. Apart from that was reliable.

  • @tonys1636
    @tonys1636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The looks grew on one after a while when new, a local publican had one, very useful for ferrying inebriated customers home after a lock in (he was TT). If it had been built with a central driving position would have been very interesting and saved the expense of separate LH and RH drive models. Anyone having driven an Alvis Stalwart knows that it does not take long to get used to driving from the centre.

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah! I always wonder why they don't ever make cars with central steering column! Not even for the sake of novelty.

  • @sbomorse
    @sbomorse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The smaller mirrors aren't blind spot mirrors - they show the curb on either side! They're a brilliant design feature.

  • @greenberlina
    @greenberlina 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A fair review there Mr Hubnut.
    The M5/Oldbury took you past the CarSosage workshop, where Mr Fuzz also has a Multipla 🤗
    (Coulda had a drive in the only UK registered 1.2 SL 5 door Arna while in the area, another time eh?)

  • @stuartjones8238
    @stuartjones8238 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I drove one of these from Bristol to Cambridge (via M5, M6, A14) back in 2000 (and back again!!). It was a JTD version with 5 of us (and Luggage). I remember it being very competent, we weren't "squashed" (the front centre seat was in "table mode"!), able to maintain motorway speeds without too much effort and found driving dynamics very good; held its own when having to deal with a stiff side wind on the A14! From then on never had a problem with a Multipla.....function over form!! On a slightly different tack; I have one of those Pure DAB devices in my 15 year old Touran; a very easy way to add, DAB, DAB+, hands free, Bluetooth Audio, Spotify Control capabilities if your car doesn't have them, without a major re-wire or hacking the dash to pieces!!

  • @xxrs2009
    @xxrs2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like these as a workvan, lots of space and 3 people in the front. Thanks for the good review!

  • @tommynyberg2122
    @tommynyberg2122 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought one in 2000. Likes cars that stand out. Fantastic design. Still driving the car after 22 years. I hope I can keep it for several more years.

  • @geoffwoodgate7450
    @geoffwoodgate7450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looked at this in 2000 but bought a Peugeot 806 instead. Big advantage of the Peugeot was sliding rear doors. Also very quiet and comfortable.

  • @seancooke7332
    @seancooke7332 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A thing of beauty, particularly when you overtook the Vauxhall Zafira Tourer. Love it.
    Bonus Mk6 Escort, Isuzu DMax and Dodge Kaliber no less. Value viewing on Hubnut.

  • @munkyman77
    @munkyman77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doug Demuro reveiwed one of these recently. He loved it!

  • @kevmacca1905
    @kevmacca1905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd say this is one of your better reviews, well done Ian 👏

  • @portnaluinge
    @portnaluinge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never understood the controversy around these. It always struck me as an intelligent and genuinely innovative design. A mate had one at the time to ferry him, his missus and three young kids around, and it was a faultless family car. Mind you, I did love that opposition football fans in Italy took to singing “you’re as ugly as a Multipla” at Juventus supporters.

  • @Rich-on6fe
    @Rich-on6fe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one of those as a hire car in 2001. It looked like my car had become a taxi (from the rear in the dark), it was terrifying going round corners and the whole wiper situation was abysmal: dirty glass for my right eye to look through and feeling like the wiper was poking me in the left eye all the time. Lovely.

  • @briintel
    @briintel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant car in my opinion. Very clever and is becoming increasingly rare.

  • @ebutuoyYT
    @ebutuoyYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you don’t mind LHD, there are still plenty of these mk1’s in Italy, almost all diesel.

  • @daddygez
    @daddygez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved my Hippo, Most comfortable people carrier I ever had. Shame they didn’t take the interior to a newer model. Only gripe was that windows didn’t go all the way down into the doors

  • @155andRising
    @155andRising 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked for a Fiat dealership in my 20s and first thing I thought was how much fun it would be to drop a 2.0 20V turbo from a Fiat Coupe into a Multipla. They even did a body kit for them in the accessory catalogue. Such a misunderstood car. The width meant it went round corners like a go-cart

  • @Grimwriggler
    @Grimwriggler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aha. A neighbour just bought the 1.9 jtd. 2002 i need to twist his arm for a test drive. You still see them around here in Spain

  • @keefbrown
    @keefbrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had three of these and loved them. I’d buy one again tomorrow if I had a chance, if only they did a 2 litre as the 1.6 GTD wasn’t really oomphy enough. - how many cars had six full size seats? You could balance your 500ml fizzy drink on the inside door handle and it sat right in front of the air and kept your drink cool. The fabric dash was to prevent reflection on the windscreen and worked perfectly…. God I miss them…. Had many a picnic in the car with the family watching the rain.. used to eat anti sway bars though if you hear a thud over bumps it was always the bushings ..

  • @timelwell7002
    @timelwell7002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No air con? A real must for a car with such large windows. Good review, thanks Ian. I hope you an find one of these if that's what you want.

  • @hoyhoytoo6772
    @hoyhoytoo6772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stick a 2litre auto under the bonnet and I'd be interested too. I like MPV's and once had a Mitsubishi Space Wagon and currently driving a Hyundai Ix20 1.6 auto, which I find a little under powered and has a 6-speed auto box but that's 1 gear too many, imho.

  • @alanlansdell7533
    @alanlansdell7533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Is it a "margin of melancholy" when the wiper doesn't reach the edge of the screen?

    • @RWBHere
      @RWBHere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bingo! That's what I call it on our Renault.

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RWBHere
      If they are on a spline reset it by a tooth or try an offset arm or blade mount. 😁

  • @mrcogginsgarage7062
    @mrcogginsgarage7062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Fiat that allways looked like it was designed by a committee!
    I've had the pleasure of working on a few of these over the years !!!...
    The petrol engines are willing little units ,but the Diesel engines have a good low down grunt gets a bit noisy when pushing on a bit
    However one note of caution Ian they Can be a right sod to work on

  • @35dononeill
    @35dononeill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fine video. I liked your thoughts on the handbrake.
    The other issue with the handbrake is that you are probably used to a left hand hand brake so you are already at a disadvantage. Prehaps a left hand version of the car would be easier to use the handbrake for any english man.