Why is Singapore better than Hong Kong for Chinese?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- Meet Dr. Jenny Li. Born in China, she moved to the US at the age of 15. Then, in 2011, after living in Hong Kong, she came to Singapore to start her business and a TH-cam channel in Chinese. During our chat, she explained why Singapore is a better place to live than Hong Kong, the problem of high-rise littering in Singapore, and the adaptation of Chinese people in the US. Enjoy!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 INTRO
00:21 Hong Kong vs. Singapore
02:18 Littering in Singapore
03:35 Things Jenny is not used to in Singapore
04:26 Life of Chinese people in the US
06:19 What the US can adopt from Singapore
08:47 Singapore citizenship
09:49 Blitz
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Thank you, Max, for having me as one of your guests . ❤❤❤.
that was my pleasure, Jenny!
@@kaijialeand it will be a viral video . 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Wow, the CPF officer's so beautiful which branch tomorrow I want to go see her 😂😂😂❤
Ah girl girl and ah boy boy poly clinic you got to booking appointment, if you last minutes sick want to see doctor's. The nurses at the counter in charge will check-ing for you. Still can see doctor. And you will needs to go back at around 3.30pm on wards to 4.30pm they got to close the door. And their charges is quite cheaper. Today I taking three lotion one the other lotion 🧴 and antibiotics just charging $22.40 only
See private doctor don't needs buy insurance just the waiting timing maybe just faster than poly clinic but must see how many patients at the clinic there. At COVID-19 time's needs more hours for waiting. And some clinic got blue 💙 💙 💙 chas card you must provide to the clinic nurses will get discount and pioneer card with a 🌲 tree red ♥️ and 🖤 colour will get more discount
As a Singaporean who send my kids & elderly to polyclinic for medical appts or when they are under the weather, the Singhealth system has improved now. We no longer wait for half a day. If i come to the doorstep of the polyclinic at 730am, i can leave with my medicines by 9.00-9.30am max. It is relatively the same amount of timing when i visit the private GP. But polyclinics we paid, a fraction of the amount compared to the cost in private GP.
For high-rise littering, depends on which area you are residing, for example in Pasir Ris Town, where i reside for 2 decades, i don't remember having any high-rise littering in my neighbourhood. It is clean and almost no litter coz the Town Council really takes good care of the neighborhood. My only problem is - irresponsible dog owners who doesn't pick up/trash their pet's litter.
I totally agree on Singapore’s government efficiency, everything is just so organised, efficient and there’s always an email to write to or a phone number to call to and there’s always someone there to help you. I’ve only been here for 2 months and I’m already thinking about changing passport.
I feel safe here, the city is elderly friendly, the law doesn’t discriminate, the government is really by people, and for people. This country is really amazing, I love Singapore 😭
an island of chinese and indian labourers migrants on a malay island
This gal is very pragmatic and adaptive coming from mid US. I like it when she said I only want SG citizenship because of sense of belonging, not for property investment reasons. She earns my respect. She’s the type of people SG Govt is looking for. Young, educated, adaptive, and skilled.
In the whole of my adult life, I have only seen highrise littering 1-2 times. So I am very surprised to hear that it is a problem in the place she is living. BTW I am a senior citizen.
It’s common
It is the norm in low SES HDB estates like Sembawang Yishun and Whampoa.
it is not uncommon. i have heard from at least 5 person told me they nearly got hit…
I agree high-rise littering do exist in Singapore however using the word common and a lot is overstated which people like to do when online don't forget there is rubbish tube in every apartment or HDB is there any reason not to use it?
Even if it happens occasionally, it doesn’t necessarily mean the culprit was a local.
Finally, we get to hear a bit of the life of Jenny, which she hardly revealed much about herself when she hosted her own TH-cam channel. What a nice change when she becomes the interviewee.
I thought my viewers were sick and tired of my own story 😅😅.
she BS
Good interview!
I know a friend who lived in HK for 3 years as a graduate student in HKU and he found Hongkongers to be very fast paced and rude (maybe not intentionally). They're truly all about work and hustling
As a Hong Konger who’s spent over a decade in SEA and MEA each and outside Asia, I totally agree with him. It’s all about work and not even creative effective work
Yea I hate working with HK people. They think they are smart and leaders but they are just doing really routine stuff.
Tks for bringing in Dr.Jenny Li (i watched her channel too) it is good to have more fresher perspective thru your vlog...cheers.
Basically she's talking from a western, wealthy class point of view. Me and my wife moved around Asia in the past 20 years, Singapore (2014-2017) was the 2nd most stressful city if not the top one. It started with renting an apartment which we were cheated by our agent, followed by the telecom company who wrongly promised a date to install the wifi, then a 4 meter labelled router cable from the Sim Lim Square which turned out to be only 3 meter long. It seems nothing was right in Singapore when we move there. Having said that, there were nice friendly people there, especially those mid aged one.
Good that you moved out of SG
@@lijinzhou9902why? It's not for poor for sure
You didn't do your own research and got the wrong agent, unfortunately.
@@musico3415 The agent was appointed by the MNC who hired my wife, and was not related to whether we did our own research or not. Eventually her company stepped in and the matter was solved by offering a cash compensation of loss to us of S$ 2400 or else such case would be escalated to file a complaint to CEA. BTW, we bought some grocery from Fairprice weeks after we settled in, a bag of dry ginkgo was found rotted inside the shells and less than 25% can be used for cooking. You meant we have to do background research to do some big chain retail stores like Fairprice, and big shots like Singtel before we deal with them?
Which city is the most stressful one?
Dr. Jenny Li 👍👍💚💚🧡🧡👍👍
有趣，我也看她的节目😂 两位的互动好棒👍
Of course. Spore is clean because of the many foreign personnels who keep our island clean. The cleaners work tirelessly. Thank you to these foreign workers.
Many littering committed by foreign workers themselves. Just visit the compound around a foreign worker dormitory, it will be full of litters. Also dont have to be so thankful as they collect a good income and could like like a king when they return home
@@SuccessforLifester that's the problem with your condescending master servant mentality. you pay them so no need to be thankful. i guess i shouldn't be thankful to the doctors and nurses who treated me. or any of the public servants who serve me since my taxes pay their salary.
@@hailyrizzo5428 Yes public doctors often didnt do job well and killed the patients. They generally need not be held responsible as the big giant organisation is untouchable. Nurses are also just doing their jobs. They often avoid eye contact with people so that they would not need to handle additional tasks. Many are foreigners and just using Singapore as a stepping stone to go to hospitals elsewhere like UK and Oz.
@@hailyrizzo5428 How am I condescending when I look up to them as high ses ppl when they return to their home countries while common locals live like peasants.
@@hailyrizzo5428 Yeah like why be thankful to the President for example? She just collects a fat income and attend events and banquets.
I actually like the fast pace feel
Of HK. It’s so alive
You both totally hit the spot - it’s only clean cause we have cleaners, not the clean mindset
Speak for yourself. I am a senior citizen and I detest litterbugs. Litterbugs are just lazy and inconsiderate, dirtying the environment for others. I don’t litter, and will hold on to personal rubbish till I can find a bin, even when overseas, because this is the right thing to do. This is what we were taught, growing up in SG. I don’t think I’m alone in thinking this way.
@@anchored555 you say that, but I see litterbugs across all generations, enough for it to be an observable problem. So your values, sadly, is of the minority and not the norm.
Frankly, in my neighbourhood, we hardly see any cleaners, yet the streets are generally litter-free. But after road works have been completed, we often see discarded water bottles and drink cans on the grass verge after the workers have left. If littering was habitual among locals, there would be way too much litter for the cleaners to cope with. How else would an army of just 57,000 cleaners (only 17,000 of whom are foreigners) be able to keep a city of 6 million clean? Don’t be so quick to self-flagellate and wear the cap when it doesn’t fit.
There are still many Singaporeans who behave poorly. No or lack of social responsibility/etiquette. As a singaporean born in late 60s, there are so many campaigns that government tried to raise awareness and social etiquette (eg. Courtesy campaign, don’t waste food in buffet etc.), progress is still very slow despite. 😢
The pioneer gen
Pointless. In Taman Jurong, after Tharman made things so bad here, even Ho Ching is disregarded by 'local authorities' and Loong's government's directives easily ignored, the local situation is... ... not just rogue residents, but also rogue town council and other local authorities or agencies. Now with a standing in MP, I tried him... ... for weeks... ... I don't see much.
Lee Kuan Yew's about enhancing quality of people is not progressing slowing down, it is actually completely broken.
The only way now to deal with rogue residents and rogue authorities is to self-organize. For years, I have tried to 'rely' on government, but... ...
...the government ends up the major root of the problem.
Obviously, I or you can no longer just expect government agencies in a HRM mess prolonged this far to do much.
We MUST organize ourselves against both rogue residents and rogue government agencies. I am into bringing both to high court, and press for damages.
Especially when my 14yo boy is showing risks or symptoms of lung cancer due to those rogue garbage.
@@henryarchy5424 in my town lights are not repaired for years, like 10 years. In end 2022, I went on a report fault lights mission for my whole town... I reported like more than 1000 faults over six months. It can be shorter timeframe like 2 weeks but tc called me and asked me not to report too many. They are not doing their jobs
@@SuccessforLifester My side worse... ... Town Council SENIOR officer of 30 years with an office number told me why his number can't ever get through...
... cos no pick no complains and no problems. LOL~
That was after he called me arrogant and no common sense.
Honestly, after years with various issues especially the 'haze', I realize we really can only rely on our own, organize ourselves and deal with the rogues including the government inactions or red tapes or abuses and etc.
I think in the comments of this video also shows existing 'victims' are not limited to just you and me.
It is worth to start raising our numbers, come together and get things done. What do you think?
I guess when the older folk die out, our manners will improve. The younger generation have better manners.
Like the interview!
straightforward yet lovely lady.. wish the interview is longer!
She's really interesting to watch and listen to, never a dull moment 😊
Being an ABC (American Born Chinese) I agree with many of her sentiments. On the surface level alone, I prefer Singapore over HK, but me being Cantonese, HK will always be my "home," so I would still choose there first.
Unlike her, I actually do speak Cantonese, so I would fit in more, and I also I grew up in a very Asian area (California), so our upbringings are quite different.
With all that said, I would actually choose Taipei over both of them.
Nice video, love the interview!
Nice interview. I lived in a HDB estate and only saw high rise littering once. A family was throwing used tissue every evening. I wrote an email to the Tanjong Pagar Town Council and said if you are not going to every floor (highest is 12th floor) to warn the residents, i am going to. (I am serious) After a week, the littering problem stops.
High rise littering is not serious or prevalent in singapore. Yes it does exist but not too common everywhere. Generally, singapore is still very clean in most part of singapore
I am surprise to hear that too. Not that rampant, mayybe, in the old days. like in the 70s or early 80s
She's absolutely right! Singapore looks clean its because of the hardworking cleaning and maintenance workers waking up early in the morning to clean trashed thrown out of the windows by flat dwellers late evenings. In short, the cleaning system is efficient, and some residents are disgusting.
Don’t forget, there’s thousands of foreigners renting HDB flats & condo here.
So based on your argument that we need cleaners….then going with your point, places like Malaysia, Thailand, some parts of America, etc are worst because they are filthy cos the people litter and nobody wants to clean up the place even if they’re paid to do so.
@@BlackShadowX88-te5pm precisely, Singapore has a better cleaning system than most of the countries you mentioned. There’re some better places in some of these countries. They’re much bigger than Singapore to single them out. Yes, many foreigners staying in flats, but the cleaners and industrial labourers don’t in general. I won’t single out foreigners in flats throwing rubbish as I’d seen the locals doing it too. Anyone dumping rubbish out of flat windows and corridors whether or not Singaporeans deserved to be punished and do read carefully, I say flat dwellers, I do not mentioned where they came from.
Yes little india , Chinatown , Geylang from both odd or double digit Lorong 3 to 24 you could spot rubbish , wasted food everywhere… the foreigner work have have to take a big part of responsibility for it , as not many locals will do that .
@@MyLionShare just have a walk past the kranji, Punggol, Lim chu Kang area and along other foreign workers hot spots near mrt stations like little India over the weekends. You’ll see plenty of food rubbish, beer bottles, etc. Most Singaporeans don’t have the littering habits….the bad habits are generally brought over from foreigners. And it’s conveniently taken as and blamed as Singaporeans. It’s the same with bad driving & riding habits on the roads….foreigners and Spore PRs are only allowed to drive/ride Singapore registered vehicles. But when behave recklessly, and due to them riding/driving with spore registered vehicles, Singaporeans get the blame. Look across the border, how many Spore PRs ie Malaysians commit offences with Spore Plates and Singaporeans get the blame.
People are people. Some Singaporeans like to imply that somehow being Singaporean means they're exceptional. They mistake a group of very clever people coming together to create an exceptional system as a sign of their own exceptional quality.
Thank you for your sharing and contribution.
I complained about my neighbour tossing lit cigarette buds out, he had to go to court. I had like 8+ video clips as evidence and that probably expedited the investigation process.
Good discussion of what it means to be a permanent resident or citizen. A true sense of belonging to this place is ultimately what benefits both the country and yourself.
Hong Kong racism is so real, even as a tourist. Speak English to them to avoid that even if you speak Cantonese, they assume you are mainlander
Quite often, it’s the fast pace that cause impatience towards tourists who aren’t accustomed to HK norms within low to mid end places. Even the traditionally ‘polite’ folks from Taiwan and Japan aren’t spared until they explain themselves or happen to be visiting tourist-dense places.
Specifically about mainlander, u can identify their strong northern tongue-roll accent (北方卷舌腔) especially if they come from the northern regions. Even without the tongue-roll, their accent is very much identifiable be it 官话(official standard mandarin) or English.
Most irritating of all, when other Chinese or even white people are being taught by ultra-native speakers that accent can become ingrained and off-putting
This lol
interesting interview
In my HDB flat, it's the foreigners who litter. Really.
Totally agree. The moment they moved out, that was when I realised the littering stopped. Common trash dumped out include peanut shells, tissue paper, pastic bags & so on
Many of them are from the less developed countries. Singapore has 40% or more foreign workers, pmets. They are not aware of high-rise littering, which is a serious offence like throwing down beer bottles, remaining food waste, unwanted household items, etc.
MANY SINGAPOREANS WOULD NOT THROW LITTERS OUT OF THEIR OWN WINDOW
MAINLY FOREIGNERS WOULD HAVE DONE IT. WE LOVE SINGAPORE 👍👍❤️🇸🇬
I had a maid before...know what she did? I caught her threw her few strands of hair after combing out of the window.I told her not to do that again.
DONOT BE ANYONE BE YOURSELF, HAVE PRIDE WHO YOU ARE.🙏
I think it depends on where you are in SG. Some places may have a lot of foreigners, so one shouldn’t simply assume the littering is done by locals. I have noticed how empty water bottles and Red Bull cans are left behind on the grass verge after road works are done.
Red bull meaning bangla?
You can draw your own conclusions.
And many indian brand beer cans like kingfisher. Mostly found at benches in parks
Polyclinic care with appointment take less than 1 hour in Singapore
There is no need to compete or compare, we just need to improve ourselves
I'm still dealing with my neighbour above my unit littering on a daily so yeah it is a real issue in Singapore. I called the authority and doesn't seem like they prioritise such problem at all, maybe they have more pressing issues to handle. I have no idea. I know some people actually move home just because they can't deal with their crazy neighbours and their littering problem
@JoeChanTV - admire your patience & tolerance to the daily littering. If you are in a condo, keep on at the MSCT until they act on your complaint/feedback. Going straight to the one in charge of the MSCT shoud move things along.
If you live in a HDB estate, and your TC has not actioned on your complaint - write-in (email) to your TC *and c.c. your MP*. Or, write-in to your MP & c.c. the TC. I find it most effective when I bring it up directly to the boss after three strikes. What happens in this case is that cctvs will be placed to capture the litter-bug & identify the actual person from the unit. With this evidence - the litter-bug can then be summoned and dealt with accordingly. Good luck!
Set up a CCTV gather all information making sure your evidence comes with time and date , your information must be consisting of morning, day and night with 5 plus 5 plus 5 we called triple 5 as a whole package. Get any CCTV with HD and night vision capabilities with clip on function and placed anywhere that could spot visibly .
After gathered , logged into service one to log an complaint as step one ,
step 2 write to town council and attached with all evidence gathered ,
step 3 c.c the above to NEA ,
step 4 file a police report
Wait for 3 weeks for the authorities to update you with the latest development .
Last step engage a lawyer to send him a summons to attend court proceedings unless 14 days of receiving the summons they must write a letter of apology and other compensation your lawyer suggested.
For condo it’s even easier skip step one and 2 just go direct to MCST , NEA and step 4 and follow by legal letter .
For landed skip step one , two and MCST , go direct NEA and the rest of procedures … the route may be tough and time consuming but it’s a one off approach and you will be free from these hassles for awhile , no need to waste your time see MP and face to face with the culprits .
I already gave up on smlj authorities. They only make things worse, make unlawful arrests, even prolonged detain and refuse bail for obvious I am not the offender, Town Council called me arrogant and no common sense when I have 13~14 burners facing my unit! And purposely place one burner in a fire hazard red zone~ And go on to increase burner count after I reported.
With HRM now in a big mess, authorities... ... you can expect not much from them.
All I have dutifully updated relevant parties, MPs, and PMOs even. So... ... None of them can claim they are excused.
Singapore now is in a big mess. Not without laws or what, but obviously we can only handle those authorities when they are now the precise troublemakers by organizing ourselves.
You go to the likes of Josephine Teo even at parliament recorded for public, "Nobody ever complained..."
You complained, Amy Khor can in parliament "You are not happy you can leave".
WTF... ...
So now remains the only route if Goh Keng Swee is facing this mess... ... organize ourselves when even Loong is hiding in his shell updated with the nonsense and yet the mess goes worse.
My 14yo boy is showing symptoms of lung cancer from Loong's messed up broken government, this is the last straw... ...
But approaching oppos to know how to organize apolitical group to deal with pollution and rogue agencies and rogue residents... ... no response from online, so... ... will have to drop them a physical visit.
Singapore is seriously bad news.
To deal with the problems, we really have to come together these days. Drop me a reply if you find this agreeable.
Totally agreed. I too encountered a problem of another issue. Complain to TC n still no action taken but went straight to the MP n my problem solved 🙏
Wow. Abd we hear about gow you can't throw chewing gum lol so it's all lies
its amazing how her accent is hardly changed after moving out of China at the age of 15 and moved to the US .
i know of singaporeans who have their accents profoundly changed after 2 weeks in Melbourne :)
Pseudo Ang mo accent 😂
There are some who don’t adopt a western accent because they can’t and some who don’t because they don’t want to.
@@anchored555 you aight bruv innit bo'ol'owa'er ?
Oops sorry I just finished a season of peaky blinders
I think her accent could be a Midwest accent in US , American accent can differ depending on where you live eg New Yorkers has their own accent .
@@melvyncarrot4741 but can't you hear that deep influence of mandarin and even the Singaporean inflection in there ?
How do you know those who litter in high rise in your condominium is Singaporean and not foreigners?
Mine was a teenage Chinese local, everyday
Migrant worker - threw a plastic bag containing remains of a meal. House-owner at ground floor almost got splattered by contents (chicken bones) thrown out of window from 8th floor!! How he knew .... silly litter-bug had his receipt in the plastic bag, delivery details all printed out with the name, address & food ordered 🤡.
Tried to deny it when the police knocked on his door and asked him - then showed him the receipt with time-stamp & details .... he was fined in court. So yeah, most high-rise killer litter-bugs I've come across so far has been non-S'poreans.
Great chats 🎉🎉🎉
The advantage of Hong Kong for traditional Chinese(Taiwanese and most of mainlanders) is that you simply need to know Chinese to survive there, whereas in Singapore you must know at least a medium level of English in order to survive.
What an interesting conversation with measured responses. I lived in Malaysia for 10 years with my Chinese husband ( I am Australian) and driving down to Singapore was always a great treat - sophistication and a feeling of being part of the world. This was in the 1960’s. Having also lived in Germany for 15 years, I still look forward to my one week holiday in Singapore. Would I want to live there permanently as a retired person?
Germany is probably a better place to retire just because of the scenic countrysides. Singapore is a city, so it you won't feel like a retirement here.
@@myoung1970s as far as retirement goes, unless one speaks the language and has a group of friends, retirement places are simply the waiting room.
Singapore has all the conveniences of first world living, but is very expensive for foreign retirees unless you have a big retirement fund.
islam is dominant religion in malaysia right ?
Rather than being upset I appreciate Dr Li for her honest view regarding cleanliness. She has been living here for many years and certainly qualifies to judge. Although not widely reported, most ppl here live in hdb and blacksheeps do exist. You may say "oh they could be foreigners". Can you be sure we locals all behave the proper way? Singapore has come a long way since independence and every development along the way arrives through hard work and intense planning. It's unbelievable that ppl call themselves citizens yet not doing this simple duty. I'm proud to be one as visitors poured accolades after accolades about how clean and green we are. We are not perfect and I'm not perfect but do my part to keep up with the great image we portray. And pls do also appreciate our foreign workers keeping us in top condition. It can never be taken granted, always... if we are gonna enjoy the great reputation we have achieved through the foresight of our leaders.
First husband and wife duo on separate episodes on the channel?
Oooops, our secret is out 😅
@@drjennyli Nice to hear the different perspectives from the both of you. Interestingly, the stories do not really overlap across both episodes.
When I see this comment I thought Max and Jenny are married. I went to Jenny videos but cannot find Max
Great video 🇸🇬 from 🇬🇧
Wow, i have lived in Sg my entire life and have never experience what she described. I am curious where she is staying and why this has not been feedback to the town council
Jenny , you are a really nice person just by listening to you expressing your thoughts
There is nothing to complain about. Grass is always greener on the other side. 😊
Wow this is really appalling to me!. Really, high-rise littering in Singapore?! I’m a local living in HDB since around 1984 and this has never crossed my mind because it was non existence in my experience. I pray I’d never have to experience it. 🙏🙏🙏
Hong Konger was actually quite nice to me during the 4 yrs I was there since I am a Singaporean 😁
As a Hong Kong citizen, I know that people of Hong Kong have a good impression of Singapore and the citizens there as a whole
HK is very good for couples and bachelors to have a great career and make very good money than Sin. Toilets are also much cleaner in HK too. Of course not to mention shopping and food which my wife loves to do in HK.
However for family with kids and prefer a bit more relaxing lives, Sin is a much better choice and more green environment for kids to grow.
I used to report to HK based supervisors in a previous job (distant reporting thru teleconference) ... HK people are extremely conscientious with work
Her comment about Hong Kong is genuine. Singapore is more chill.
very spot on esp on the CPF issue. fully agreed. sometimes we just dun appreciate what our govt is doing for us.
Two things i like to correct about what she said. High rise littering. Yes there there is but extremely rsre. She sounded like litters are flying off the sky all the time. Secondly she said that waiting at polyclinic may take half a day. I visit polyclinic but waiting is very short. Maybe 30 mins. Perhaps shorter wait than private clinic. If i visit a specialist at govt hospital, the very first appointment takes about two months. Thereafter, follow up next appointment will depend on requirement. However the wait at the specialist clinic is about 30 minutes. I think she has not visited poly or govt specialist clinic.
Appreciate her honesty. Being a teenager is not easy. Most teenagers just want to fit in and be like their peers. I can imagine how difficult it must have been being the only asian kid in a homogenous community. It's not like being the only white kid in a asian country because generally speaking, most asian people treat white people well and don't mistreat them or mock them for their looks.
It all depends. When i first landed in Australia to pursue my degree, i was surrounded by predominantly white Aussies. I did not feel a need to change my appearance. I was very welcomed by my host family & uni mates.
@@ruthng5544the mindset when you're in college versus high school is different. People grow more confident as they get older and leave high school generally speaking ofcourse. There are other factors too like prior self esteem too for sure
Sheep
It must the place you are staying, my hood does not have a highrise littering problem at all.
A blanket statement on high rise littering is uncalled for. Be aware that there are also foreigners living in the high rise dwellings and I had personally witness high rise littering by them. Singapore is not perfect, live with it and accept it.
Polyclinic doesnt need half a day to see a doctor, all you have to do is book the appt online on the stipulated time, and be there on the slot time given..probably datll be an 1hr or additional 30mins and youre good to go
Not really. There have been occasions where I had waited up to 2 hours or more even with an appointment, depending on what time and day it is!
@@ymhktravel mine been good , maximum is 2 hrs wait...
Jenny’s opinion about USA’s health care is right on. Even with insurance or Medicare the expenses are some of the highest in the world. Capitalism at its worst- hospitals and pharmaceutical companies making huge profits over sick people in need.
BTW Moving to the Midwest would be a challenge for an Asian teenager but overall, it’s a better place to be than in a big city.
Those that littered might be foreigners. Hope Jenny got her PR as she is an asset to Singapore while contributing to the country. Cheers
I m quite sure you are another foreigner eyeing to get PR in Sg. If you are local, please do not say this.
u try and visit 872b tamp,surrounding flats also.
I disagree. But for sure those who clean up after us are mostly the foreigners.
Like I say... "might be foreigner "
@@waihoong11Not true. We apparently have 57,000 cleaners. Only 17,000 of them are foreigners.
I am quite surprised that she has experienced so much high rise littering in Singapore. Hardly hear this from many HDB residents.
Singaporeans and foreign workers are not that civic-minded. You can see cigarette butts and all sorts of litters especially end of the day and during COVID times when there were shortage of foreign cleaners due to border closure. That is why our government has to impose fines for littering and for people to return their trays. Even Japanese also commented that Singapore's cleanliness is due to government regulations.
The Ministry of National Environment Should ask,
the contractors not to tuck flyers to Steel gate of HDB flats
As most time wind blew the flyers down onto the floor of the public corridors
All HDB blocks got letter boxes on the ground floor
Highrise littering!? That's a debatable sweeping statement to make.
Please state the specific locations you've come across. Our relevant agency will note and address the incorrigible in those areas.
My take is that one should grow up in Hong Kong and lived in Hong Kong Kong enough to make that kind of statement. I grew up in HK and lived in Singapore, I am aware of the pros and cons of both countries, for someone who grew up in China and subsequently migrated to USA, becomes too subjective and should not be presented in Max’s channel which has been of neutral stance and of sincere quality
Can you specify?
That might be true for someone to compare
If this is the case, they shall make another one born and raised up in SG, moved to HK, to be interviewed together with the HK born and raised moved to SG
@@MaxChernov Many outsiders in Hong Kong think that Hong Kong discriminates against people who speak Mandarin, but I can definitely tell you that most of them are misunderstood, including the woman interviewed in this video . Most of the waiters in Hong Kong are actually from the mainland. Isn't it ridiculous to say that they discriminate against mainlanders? In fact, Hong Kong's grassroots frontline employees are under great business pressure because of high rents, so they are very urgent in providing services to everyone. This leads many people to think that Hong Kong people discriminate against them, but in fact, this is not the case. They also treat locals such.
This is a clear example that this lady didnt live Hong Kong enough to make such a blatant statement
Prob never work in spore. Usually the staff work late in the office.
Dear Max,
You only interview those expat who are mostly if not all from the top 10% to 20% of workforce, try those from the bottom 20% of the workforce including those holding S-pass or W-pass.
You will get very different pictures. E.g. ask expat nursing staff, ask those with W-pass who have used our expat's so called "super great health care - government funded - hospitals" who have to pay out of their pockets
Max doesn't care about those people. He just wants to kiss the ass of the top people so he can further his "profile".
She is the kind of citizen we want. Please consider 😆
Nah
I definitely can't agree with more.
Algorithms recommend what we like to watch, and if we're not actively looking for different points of views, most likely we'll be exposed to views we agree with most of the time.
I’ve made many videos teaching Chinese language vividly and in a humorous way. I hope somebody can recommend my videos to those who want to learn Chinese. For beginners, Chinese characters may look complicated. But once you learn about 100 basic radicals, most characters become easy.
I hope more people can learn Chinese to get comprehensive firsthand information about China and most likely seek more job opportunities.
Passive smoking from neighbours is also an issue. Amy Khor from Malaysia said there are no solutions. You submit evidence of errant smoking to NEA they will only continue to monitor the situation. There is hardly any enforcement of errant smoking and littering. I saw most littering carried out by South Asians and those people chilling out at void decks.
I also am facing this problem. Actually Amy Khor was wrong, there are existing laws to apprehend or arrest the smokers or polluting parties. Problem is, police will not move. And not sure if high court will.
In US, you can file against such smokers under assault branch of laws, why the f Singapore aspiring to be global legal institution with laws inherited from English laws can tell Louis Ng there is no laws no way to deal with those f00kers?
After PAP gone 'awol', I have to seek opposition attention to try to organize an apolitical organization gathering people like you together to bang against those police rogues and rogue residents. This is obviously not there is no laws, it is simply... ... like Fire Department pushing prevention of fire to Town Council... ... town council foreign indian workers can know fire hazards better than firemen or specialists patrolling????
Problem is no response so far, and I may have to visit those oppos physically.
I also have issues of unlawful arrests by stupid police TWICE. Because under those laws they detained me, and later even refused to let me bail myself, totally whacked!
Since PAP is going nowhere, we have no choice anyway.
We have to organize ourselves.
Personally, I don’t think the solution are with the laws or enforcement. Singapore has become a place where everything that we don’t like becomes legislated. And the legislation gets so ridiculous, so arbitrary, so specific, that we no longer see the rationale behind. It becomes a matter of getting caught under the rules or not? If you can get away with it, you get away with it. Because the rationale is lost. The 2nd laziest “solution” that we always find ourselves using is “law”. The most lazy? To say there are no solutions. The solution is probably education leading to a change in attitudes. But not the way we currently educate I.e. all the propaganda, in your face kind of ads - we can’t even shut up, we have to do it LOL. Talk about it, be genuine, be real. Thats the only day I think. Singaporeans will come around to it. But being “real” in Singapore, that’s an even bigger problem for us. Singaporeans are just waiting for the time where we feel our effort won’t be wasted.
@@SgForeverSg Laws will help to deter some. But the best outcome is strict enforcements of the laws. Many laws are not enforced. Some people simply cannot be educated. In lower secondary, the dangers of smokings are already in the science syllabus. Some people are simply not able to be educated.
If there is a law passed, residents can have the authority to approach the neighbours as the first line of deterrence.
@@SuccessforLifester I get where you are coming from. But that’s sad for Singapore, at least that’s how I feel. And it’s already sad enough. Putting personal preferences aside, I don’t think the government will strictly enforce the laws unless it becomes very big problem, until it’s loud enough. We like to have lots of laws, to cover many things. But we don’t dare and are not able to enforce them properly. But once something big happens, enforcement will come in and we will say we didn’t enforce earlier because we gave chances, we were monitoring etc.. Anyway, personal views.
@@SgForeverSg yes many laws but no enforcements. Though some people are indeed deterred by the existence of laws and also as you said, education. Stricter enforcements would be excellent, on errant smokings and littering for example. Many people also smoke in toilets of shopping centres. No one enforced.
Like many viewers here, I don't think high rise littering is a problem. It really boils down to a very small minority living in the residence. Sidetrack a bit, while high-rise littering is punishable by law but difficult to enforce, high rise smoking seems to be 'ok' despite being 'difficult' to enforce too. @louis_ng needs to debate this is parliament!
Its not like someone throw a fridge down..so its ok. High rise littering small issue
because hdb littering very hard to get caught also depends what you throw
Lived in HK for 14 years - left because of the way the government treats its own people as well as mainlanders and other expats. HK people are actually super friendly but super busy so if you are shy it can be rough; you have to find your tribe and some expats never actually do. I used to go to Singapore for chill out times. It’s nice for almost everything.
Agree with your point 💯% . As an expat whom lived and work in both China and HK for 22 years , the government of china are the biggest issues and it worsen since 2014 and take to the height at 2018 . HK was great but after 2016 you could see the entire business environment and the economy gained control by the mainlanders and take to another level after 2019 . We are force to quit liquidate and sell all our assets and businesses and moved to another country. So I could feel where you coming from , however on the other hand Singapore’s gained are their losses and I’m glad our government grab the opportunity when it comes . I wish both HK and China’s political stands would hold the longer the possible and Xi continue to strengthen its power for a long long time and this way Singapore will continue to rose further while they are busy fighting and busy with their propaganda campaign.
There are many nonsense from Singapore government as well.
Too many I experienced personally. Especially if you move to Taman Jurong, under Tharman, the place now becomes a big mess.
The town council is messed up as well.
13 to 14 burners to one block, and also purposely place burners bringing in burning area to fire hazard area, and if you complain, more burners come in instead. Then SCDF charges town council with prevention of fire when they should not be.
Also, in Singapore when it comes to second hand smoke, other states with the same laws can take action, in Singapore, to fire hazard offenders and second hand smoke, police despite existing laws other states are using just won't move.
And many other things... ...
It is a big mess nowadays. It WAS clean, but ever since Lee Kuan Yew stepped down, his focus on upping the quality of people was removed by subsequent government... ... so it is becoming messier. Much messier as quality of people falls steadily, especially with foreign influx.
I think depending on one’s race living in Singapore will give you a very different experience, eg: chinese vs minority race or even where you came from before. For some it is utopia but for some it maybe a never ending rat race and stress is high here too. To say it’s not stressful is a little strange. There are challenges in every country hey!
It’s stressful in Singapore but even more so in HK.
It depends on where you came from before Singapore. Many people coming from Asian countries like Japan, Korea, China will find Singapore less stressful.
Hmm I don’t agree that Singaporeans are more friendly. I think they are actually more arrogant and ambitious probably cuz the country is a rising star. Hkers could be rude cuz of work stress, but if you get to know the people you’ll find that the people are more genuine. I agree that SG has a more laid back vibe tho.
Not everyone high rise litters 😅 it also depends on the area plus there are some people who have mental illness so they just do it. Of course, some people are just plain lazy and think they won’t get caught.
Just because someone throws out litter from the window of. HDB flat….you labeled it as all Singaporeans litter.
Don’t forget you yourself and many other foreigners live in HDB flats.
Don’t be ignorant.
Dr. Jenny is so cool, the next time u see her she would be blue hair and blonde eyes.
Make a short with Max in Russian "mafiasco" accent and Jenny in Chinatown "big sister big" accent discussing about the same content of healthcare and CPF, should be interesting and funny. haha
I agree with what she said about Hong Kong, I would prefer Singapore compared to HK if I had a choice. The air is dirty most of the year in HK, always constructions everywhere, it’s crowded almost everywhere you go.
I find it interesting her Asian accent is so heavy having grown up and lived her whole life in Iowa. I grew up in Australia and all my abc friends who grew up in Australia all have Australian accent and have zero Asian accent.
Max saying "how come" feels so Singaporean. Lol.
Report them. Call the police if you witness the act. But it may not be the locals because the penalty is too heavy to pay.
Yes many FTs can be litter bugs too. Common problem everywhere
It's not normal to throw things out of the window. Anti-social behaviour, including littering, is punished severely in Singapore. Under section 17 of the Environmental Public Health Act of Singapore (EPHA), "depositing, dropping, placing or throwing any article or thing in any public place except in a dustbin provided for the deposit of rubbish" is considered littering, and litterbugs can expect fines of up to S$5000 or more, including jail time for repeated offenders.
Pointless. You think this is like shooting a drama, "Hey you start littering and spreading second hand smoke or you can start the fire in those burners... ... with plastic, lunch boxes, mask, shoes in when I am ready with camera rolling..."
We have also laws to apprehend second hand smoke polluting source, BUT police won't move.
The ONLY way is confirmed to be organizing ourselves for class action suit or demanding the government to wake up and stop becoming the problem as well.
I have never heard or seen high rise littering here in Singapore 🇸🇬 😱
HK also has high rise littering
噪音是新加坡严重社会问题
- 组屋内: 用竹竿大力打在钢管上
- 组屋外: 用震耳欲聋的吹风筒扫树叶等
- 地铁站, 购物中心放音乐等等
第二个是问题其他不是，那个叶子吹风机吵到像飞机的引擎或原子弹爆炸，PUB， Town Council 一定是tm耳聋了猪脑，听不到，买了个躁音机每个礼拜哄炸居民！
为什么用竹竿大力打在钢管上？
Ethnically Homogeneous is good. And she is has a strong Singaporean accent.
I was in Hong Kong for one week... i almost got PTSD from HK when i returned home.
At the risk of sounding biased, high-rise littering is actually way more of a mainland Chinese phenomenon than anywhere else I've seen. There is often a ground-floor sale price discount even though it comes with a bigger yard/patio area in some high-rise buildings because of the risk of littering from upstairs neighbors. It's so rampant that Chinese govt had to enact a law to prevent litter from higher floors. I don't think it's that common in SG but given the large diaspora of 1st generation Chinese, I could imagine occasional sightings.
Singapore to me is getting far more expensive and I thinking where to go next
Throwing litter from highrise building..you'll get used to it 😂😂
high rise littering should have a heavier penalty..
Love to shoo in h.k.
.Lately ,h.k street vendors n markets not as thriving as before. .
9:58 what kind of chicken rice is this?
This is weird. I heard of a Hong Konger who came to Singapore to work for 6 months before she left. She said the stress level in Singapore is higher. Anyway, I feel that Chinese is more suitable for Hong Kong because they share the same language and culture. Singapore uses English and is more westernised. The Chinese that came to work/study here lack English ability and they often take advantage of the fact that most Singaporean Chinese can speak Mandarin to help translate for them
Actually, PRC Chinese often face discrimination in HK, as Jenny Li pointed out. If you speak Mandarin in HK, or poor Cantonese, you might be suspected of being from the PRC, and then encounter discrimination. Why? Because for a long time, HK people looked down on those from the mainland as being poor and uncouth because decades ago, China was poor and backward. Now, China has become rich and strong, so the disdain has now been compounded by envy, because many rich Chinese go to HK to splurge. Anti-China sentiments were also stirred up during the HK riots a few years ago. In short, better to speak English in HK and say you’re from Singapore rather than be mistaken for a mainlander. Jenny Li does speak English with an unmistakable China accent, so it’s not surprising she was mistaken for a mainlander in HK.
@@anchored555 To be honest, mainland Chinese face disdain everywhere because of the bad behaviour and reputation of China tourists even if they are rich and wealthy. The perception of them is no different in Singapore than anywhere else on the world. Their hygiene, their shouting to get their demands across, them having a habit of hacking people when they get into argument...For Hong Kong, it is another layer of disdain due to political history.
@@anchored555 Wow, you got all of that from a PRC blog. Well done
No, it’s common knowledge in HK.
@@anchored555no worries of that dude above
Just another local HK dude tried all the way to make those comments favourable to mainlanders in HK (even if it’s real legit) not legit
My point of view on littering..mostly are our pioneer generation and foreign workers.
Litterbugs probably come from the following categories of people: 1. Lazy and inconsiderate (fortunately just a tiny minority) 2. Mentally ill (these are the ones who throw killer litter) 3. Foreigners from countries where littering is habitual. Unfortunately, some locals are litterbugs, but the majority are not.
Littering is common especially around letterbox areas. Even tho theres a bin just beside it. I dont understand these people.
New HK (since 01JUL20), fully mainlandized‼
Btw, chiro is not recognised as a qualified Doc in SG. Should not use it in SG land.
She is a Doctor of Chiropractic (name of the degree), but not a medical doctor. Just like PhDs can call themselves Dr even though they are not medical doctors.
@@anchored555 Hmm..Doc of Science, Art, Math at degree level. In SG, either PHD or medical doc (not even tcm doc) can be a name before Sir name. Check the legality aspect.
Wrong.
There are good reasons why chiropractors are only treated as complementary/alternative medicine practitioners, and not medical doctors here in SG. Chiropractic is based on the idea that many diseases can be cured by spinal manipulation, but this lacks scientific evidence. Even in the US, chiropractors are often viewed by medical doctors with suspicion as quacks/snake oil salesmen. (Not my personal opinion. Google it). Spinal manipulation might relieve pain for some, but it also carries a high risk of serious injury (eg paralysis) if done to the wrong type of spine eg one with arthritic fusion. There are apparently some 150 chiropractors in SG, all foreign trained since SG does not train chiropractors. People not in the know may get confused by chiropractors wearing scrubs or doctor-like coats and assume they are medically trained and qualified, especially when they call themselves “Dr” and claim to specialise in the spine. It seems that it is fairly easy to get into chiropractic school, their training is nowhere near as rigorous as for medical doctors, and they have no hospital training at all. So be careful about letting a chiropractor manipulate your spine or crack your neck. You could end up with worse pain or even paralysis.