FYI this M1 Max has 10/32 cores with 32gb ram and a 1tb hard drive. The M3 has 16/40 cores with 48gb ram and a 1tb hard drive. ALSO I have "Use Optimize Media If Available" checked on in Resolve but I can assure you I'm NOT editing with proxies. These computers are just THAT good. Lastly, if you are enjoying the series and want to support the channel perhaps you could buy me a coffee here: www.buymeacoffee.com/sahdlife If you're able to, amazing! If not, no worries 👊 I hope you have enjoyed the ride with me.
Sorry the M 3 Max comes with up to 50+ GPU cores its like 2/3 less than the M 2 Apple Cinema which is over marketed and can’t deliver what it promises. & cost a lot more that a maxed out M 3 Max
I decided to go with the M1 max chip version also! The price tag DOES make a big difference for me. I'm a small business owner, so having the M3 Max price tag be so astronomical without proven performance difference, I decided that buying a new M1 max was the way to go for me. When there is a big difference, I'll invest in a better model. Thanks so much for helping me make this decision based on your experience and for sharing that with everyone! This is why the internet is so great!
Thanks for the great comment! And that's awesome others are feeling the same way. Did you get yours refurbed?! Besides the battery being a little worse, it doesn't feel much difference at all for how I use it. Similar performance for so much savings!
Alternative thought process for going for M3 version now is to think about the future years when M1 version would slow down considerably earlier than M3 thus making M3 durable/usable for more time. Comparing the performance in the present would obviously make it overkill with that price now but if wanting the device to last some good years, it's always advisable to go for newer versions.
@@PritishBharti I know what you are saying for sure... I think that Apple crushed it with the Silicon chip though, and based on what we know now, the M1 stuff is still great. AI will be a thing in the near future but we have no clue how it will be implemented into future apps and tech. The price jump between the m1 and m3 is significant, especially based on our current software and needs. So there's no point (for us) to buy something that may or may not be useful in the future but not anymore useful right now.
@@thesahdstudioI went with the m3 max cause I’m a video editor and I need the best performance when editing other people work but I think u could of went something better like maybe a m2 max
When you mention the new M1 Max, are you referring to used ones? Do you know if it's possible to buy them new? I am aware that refurbished ones are available from Apple, but my question is whether you are purchasing them from the black market or ice. Sell My Mac or Amazon, but I'm not sure if that's the best option. Also, I don't think there are many new M1 Max models available unless someone had a large overstock a long time ago.
Just bought an M1 14" CTO with Max CPU and 64gb of ram for $1799. It smokes the M3 I just purchased. I'm taking the M3 back. That M1 never gets hot either. It's insane.
Nice find! Yeah any of the max chips just smoke the pros when it comes to video editing. I don't know if you saw my newer video but I built a brand new Intel desktop and the M1 Max is handling it like a boss.
Great video. You were not aware of the issue with animations is because no one has shown it in TH-cam. They just say it's insane for video editing not testing it in-depth. Thanks for converting little nuances like this!
Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it! I'm trying to learn all this stuff on my own which is difficult... So I almost felt stupid for not knowing! Because like you said, nobody else talks about it. I hope I can at least help others on their journey. Appreciate the support 👊
Yes I noticed this too. So incredibly disengenuine they just do what gets the views. Apple silicon can NOT handle massive effects without dropping frames or needing to turn on proxy / lower res timeline. It just can't. Even the Max. and I don't have a studio but I'm guessing it applies to it as well. I originally had an M1 Air and while it can edit videos it was extremely limited with effects.... So i said screw it i'll get the best Max you can buy. To my surprise, while yes it was faster than the air, only barely for effects like magic mask. Like less than 10 frames per sec difference in speed. It's pretty damn sad, because all the youtubers lead you to believe Apple Silicon is amazing for video editing and can't be beat and is the best thing for a creative to have. How? A 5 year old windows machine with a 3070 can smoke it considerably? anyways. I've since purchased a windows laptop with 4090 so i'll be doing some crazy comparisons. I suspect the windows laptop smokes it in every possible way relating to editing. But we will see.
@@sotonin I'd be interested to hear how your comparison goes. This video may be of interest to you: th-cam.com/video/PzY0sSjGl5s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=U9tSQj_wWoOz8Fnt The Windows machine with a 4090 will no doubt be faster for most GPU intensive tasks, but bear in mind that some common codecs on an Intel/NVidia systems may not have the hardware acceleration that Apple Silicon provides. 10-bit H.264 seems a bit hit and miss depending on the system you have. H.265/HEVC seems to be better supported. Not sure about ProRes / BRAW etc, but it is definitely advisable to find some real-world examples that use *exactly* the same hardware/software combinations and workflows that you intend to use before jumping into any given system.
@@johngwheeler I have not done any indepth comparisons yet. but I can tell you that the 4090 smokes all apple silicon on magic mask. It's actually usable on the windows PC. basic stuff like cutting and skipping around through footage also works perfectly smooth comparable to any of my apple silicon machines. I only have a few video cameras though so no fancy codecs. just H264 in summary, the windows machine beats out my M1 air and M1 Pro Max machine handily without any stress or downsides (so far)
This naturally revealed the apple shills on yt. They buy the maxed out spec ones and then go “woah its fastttt” lol at what??? I cant find it but theres an asain guy who actually compares the laptops on all specs in real world tasks. It ended up that all the max chips are damn near the same within a margin of literally seconds.
I've watched your series of M1 vs M3 Max videos and found them to be very thorough and educational - great job! What seems apparent is that for the *majority* of editing tasks there isn't any significant advantage to the M3 Max, and that for those tasks that do stress the machines, they *both* fail to play back in real-time - just to differing degrees. This *could* be a big deal to some people if they spend so much time doing heavy-weight tasks that a 20-30% improvement equates would have a big impact on their throughput, but for a lot of people waiting "a few seconds longer" for an effect to render is not a big deal at all, particularly if you're not working to a deadline or being paid by the hour. In any case, the various optimisation options that are available in Resolve may make the difference a moot point. Watching these videos has most definitely removed my sense of FOMO at "only" having a entry level M1 Max....it's still a great machine that could last me for years.
Glad you found the video and thanks for the comment! Yeah I completely agree with you. Crazily enough I'm in the process of building a PC specifically for video editing and a bit of gaming and the M1 Max is still competing and beating the big machine in certain areas. Apple almost made the M1 Max too good, and I think you're right you will still be happy with its performance for years. While it is always nice to have the latest tech, the M1 is just so easy to recommend for the price.
Hey man, please help me, I've been using windows my entire life, but revently got into a business that requires video editing not too many effects though (just couple of visual layers and text and perhaps music and dialogue), and I am using premiere pro. So which one should I go for M2 Max? Or is the M3 pro good enough
I mean the Pro is good enough... the Max has extra encoders on there and it does make a difference when you're working on multiple 4k clips. The Pro can get by though, especially if you make proxies. I'd take a look on the used market... see if you can pick up an older Max that still has AppleCare maybe? If not, check the refurbed section on the Apple store. Just make sure you bump up the ram to 32 if you decide on the M3 Pro. The one I bought only had 18gb ram and it definitely felt like it had bottlenecks while video editing... I don't know if that was from the ram or the less encoders on the chip.
Hy so its me again, im thinking of buying the M3pro with 1 TB mainly for 4k video editing. Do you think the M3pro is enough or would you go for the m3 Pro max?
Hey! You know, you could get by using the M3 Pro... it's fine. It's good. But it's not great. You will hit a bottleneck if/when you start to expand your skills and want try new things like layering videos etc. I think it's worth the extra money if you are serious about video editing, absolutely. You could consider a refurbed m1/m2 like I did, but if you can afford it the M3 Max is the way to go for sure.
I know right? I agree. The benefit for me in this case was that I was able to get that return Window which I wouldn't have gotten buying used... and since I've always been curious about Apple products, well my curiosity finally got the best of me. Do you use Apple products?
@thesahdstudio Yes I made the switch to Mac about 20 years ago. The ease of use and reliability is second to none. Apple is known for the not so secret incremental upgrade business model. Not surprising that the m1 Is comparable. I am currently using a m1 mini that is maxed out. I've been considering getting an iPhone for convenience as well. It's the same story there as well. You don't need a 15 pro max just get a 13 or 14 and save your money.
Interesting. I'm curious about those Mini's. Be fun to play around with one. Good call about the older phone... though I know only the 15's have USB-C which would be nice... maybe at the end of this year I'll shop for them when people start buying 16's @@DestinationUnknown4x4
Great choice. Use the best tool for the job. And there are lots of tools at lots of different price points. Happy to hear your M1 Max can handle what you need at a price that makes sense for you. Keep them coming!
Thanks! It's taken me get awhile to get here, but I'm happy to be here. And it's just the little things I'm growing to like. For example, the keyboard on these Max laptops is just nice. At first it was fine... but now, when I go back to my Windows machine it's just not satisfying to use. You just start to miss this stuff when you don't have it once you get used to it. Definitely seems like the sweet spot of value for me.
I picked up an M1 Max a months ago on a whim because it was such a low price. Was used as a desktop its whole life so it’s in mint condition. It’s so good that I’m thinking of selling my Mac Studio M2 Max.
Hey great video!! Thanks for the insights! Looking to get either M1 or M2 Max chip within a good budget. Do you have any recommendations for the perfect store/site in the US to purchase from that can ensure that the M1/M2 Max Chip has a 100% performance battery?
Exciting! Honestly, I don't. I mean you can buy directly from the Apple store for refurbished right? That might be the best option but maybe not the cheapest? Probably the safest though. Let me know what you get. I'm still happy with my M1 Max though I will be selling it soon since I just built a big desktop!
I would recommend trying Final Cut Pro or an application that is optimized for silicon on MacOS. Rosetta is going to be a non-starter for video or motion graphics in anything. And honestly, a lot of third-party apps, including Adobe’s suite, require you to go in and change the settings to allow for using the M3 Max as a GPU or VRAM, and up the available memory for them since the unified memory system often requires you to allow for higher than minimum required memory settings. Since it’s still early, I would always research how to optimize the application for Apple Silicon so that you can take advantage of the power it has on board, particularly unified memory. Most physical GPU cards have realistically between 8-24GB if you’re lucky, but more if you’re shelling out more. So if the settings are by default set to using 8GB of available GPU memory, but you maxed out on 128GB of unified memory, you’re limiting yourself unless you take advantage of that massive memory bank.
Hey thanks for the tips. DaVinci resolve runs really well... I have tinkered around with final cut but I'm not sure if I want to take the plunge and learn something new at the moment you know? It's definitely something I'm considering though because I think you're right it would be better optimized.
Yeah IF you can still find one it'll be solid for a while still. I'm happy with mine. The battery and performance is what you'd hope for for the price point. It will be really interesting to see what the competition does over the next year or so... hopefully that pushes Apple to make the newer ones even better.
Costco in the U.K. were clearing out the M1 Max with 64GB RAM and 4TB for £2500 and the M1 ultra studio with 64GB and 1TB for £2400. I already had the M1 Max base model but was tempted to buy and sell! In the end I ordered the ultra and use with a hub 😂
Haha, a deal too tempting to pass up! Yeah I totally get it now. Any of the Silicon chips are just so good, once you find one with the ram/hard drive that works for you you're golden. It's almost the perfect machine. PLUS you get that Costco warranty... that's sick.
@@thesahdstudio yeah they were doing some crazy deals on M1 Pro/Max and Mac Studios. Especially as in the UK and Canada we often get ripped off vs U.S. (even taking into account taxes). If I didn’t have the same machine as your M1 Max I’d have grabbed the M1 Max deal. I have to say although I’m not currently using it to anywhere near the level it can achieve I know there is nothing I won’t be able to do on the M1 ultra and I’ve got it driving an LGC42 OLED. It’s only at 60hz but having used 60hz to 240hz for working on text based stuff I really don’t notice a difference.
Good call. And that sounds like a sick screen! Do you find any difference in performance when you are plugged in to the screen? I saw a whole thing about how MacBook resolution gets all wonky when you plug in to a 4K screen since it has to upscale then downscale (or vice versa) before it can get to 4k which sacrifices performance. Maybe that only is noticeable on weak MacBooks. @@richarddcrossley
i video edit for other people…. so time is money. would you say the m3 is better enough to create a significant enough difference exporting and monitoring ~15 hours of video podcast content per month? i’m also super curious about the m2.
Do you mean is the M3 Max better enough than the M1 Max? No. Definitely not. Any of the Max chips would be absolutely fine for pretty much any type of workload (especially if you use FCP). Do you have/are you considering a Max model?
@@thesahdstudio Thanks for answering me!! I am considering a max or pro chip. i’ve talked to a lot of product experts who have recommended that the pro chip with upgraded ram is more than enough to handle music production and video editing software simultaneously.
@@landonmatthew Right on! I think the software you use affects the performance too. If you are going to use FCP which is optimized for the hardware, the Pro will be fine. If you are using Resolve or something else and get different footage from different cameras, I would always get the Max. But that's just me! Good luck with your choice.
Thanks! And no, I didn't notice any differentce, but to be fair my colour grading process isn't too complicated. I'm not adding de-noise or anything other demanding effects to my footage. I'm still happy with the M1 for the price. I mean I still wish I had the M3 Max of course... it definitely was better. But for what I can buy for the difference in money it just wasn't worth it. Sorry, I know this message doesn't really help. They are both great options! The shiny new tax was just too much for me.
If you choose between max chips I think the sweet spot now days is m2 max. It has some improvements and should have longer support. M3 max seems a chip for those who is still on intel macs and coming to the time of upgrade.
I would have liked to get the M2 Max also, however, it would have cost well over $1,000 (CAD) more than the M1 Max. Based on the difference in performance between the M1 and M3 in how I use it, I didn't think the extra cost would have been worth it. I have edited a couple videos on the M1 since making this video and I am still really happy with it. I will say the battery is noticeably worse than the M3 so I bet the M2 would be better. And you're right, the extra support is always nice. But, I'm still happy with the deal I got!
They would be pretty similar in performance I imagine. I will say I feel like the M3 line has a much better battery life but it has less video in court orders so it will be worse for normal video editing. To be honest if I was going to edit with a lot of VFX and effects I don't think I would get either of them. That's the one area where I found them to be pretty weak. You could use smart rendering but then your probably want an external hard drive.
m1 pro and m1 max are still stellar products and dollar per performace is on pair with m3 pro and m3 max. so not difficult to choose if you want powehouise and dollars in your pocket.
Yeah you got it man... value-wise they are still fantastic as long as you can get a machine in good condition. I am really happy with my M1 Max and am going to make a video talking about it soon because I think it's still a great option.
I would love if someone did a review from a photographers perspective, this was a really good video, but this and every other video I’ve seen reviews it from a video editing perspective.
Yeah I hear you. Is photo editing that demanding really? I actually have no idea. Maybe it is. I think video editing presents a lot of hurdles for computers to make it a smooth/nice experience... so it's easy to showcase how and where some computer are better than others. Like gaming right? It's easier to show how one is better than the other.
@@thesahdstudio regarding photo editing demands vs the range of video demands per project or scenario: Imagine starting with a 100Mp camera file such as my fuji gfx, then a shot requiring multiple exposures for a range of light and/or capturing a person or object here and there over time to create something that didn't exist all at the same moment. it's at 5-15 image file layers now before any applied adjustment layers. Next consider it's a stitched panorama, even if only 3 wide for overlap, the working file is now 45 x 100 Mp plus all the adjustment layers, it's getting into the several Gb file size by now. RAM is important but so is the GPU when you go to use a filter such as Topaz sharpen or Gigapixel. To me, the 128 RAM alone is enough urge to rerplace my M1 max 64Gb with an M3 max 128 Gb, plus the GPU. There are other workflow things such as batch processing full res jpg or raw conversion that more cores and ram help with. A lot of great info for photographers is on the Lloyd Chambers pages with tons of testing specifically for photo editing.
My M1 MacBook Air has greater battery Life than the M3 Max MacBook Pro 36gb and 1tb SSD but the M3 does perform better than my two other M1 Max Mac Studios. Studio 32 have 5 cameras and is the base model. Studio 64 also have 5 cameras and they are great. I still rather use the M3 Max. Cheers!
The Air laptops seem awesome. The m3 coming shortly will be hard not to recommend. Sounds like you are well invested in the ecosystem. So you rock all the other Apple stuff too (phone, watch etc)?
@@thesahdstudio Only have the iPhone 10s Max 256gb and it still runs great. Do not want a watch because I am always breaking them. The regular watches that you buy now the battery does not last and I am not talking about the cellphone watches that work with Bluetooth. I still get 18 hours of battery life for the M1 MacBook Air laptop 512gb of storage and full GPU Cores and CPU Cores on this model. I have connected 7 cameras to this machine and it worked great until Apple brought two more OS and then it got a little sluggish. The M3 Max took care of that but I still have to plug one camera into each one of the three Thunderbolt port s to not have any juddering/stuttering when using Ecamm Live Pro V4+. Cheers! BTW You dance better than I. 😆
@@thesahdstudio I am a Hoarder! If the camera still works I am using it. I just made a video lately of how many computers I really need? LOL! If the stuff still works use it. Cheers!
None of the Max laptops get really hot with the type of editing I do. If you're using all sorts of motion graphics or 8k footage, it might... but for 4k timelines working with h.264/265 footage it's easy breezy. During rendering of the videos though they do warm up but nothing crazy. I couldn't even have my old Windows laptop on my lap. These are fine!
@@thesahdstudio Good to hear that. I have been on Intel MBP which easily get hot even doing simple tasks. Looking at your few videos, MAX chip is definitely far better at such use case. My next concern will be between 14" vs 16" due to the chassis difference. Anyway, thanks for your feedback.
@@shafiemustaffa The 14'' seems like a nice size but I'm not going to lie, I'm a sucker for big screens. It's just great for everything you know? Work/play/relaxing.... I'd never get a smaller one but maybe it's worth heading down to BestBuy or whatever store is near you and handling the different sizes. Good luck!
Thanks! I know right? It's a lot of money... I'd like to buy a new light and maybe mic too. Hopefully they return the money 🤣 Maybe I HATE paying full price for a phone though. Yeesh. And used iPhone prices lol
My take away going through all of this is that pretty much ANY Silicon chip is just fantastic. The Max chips are better for editing videos because of the extra encoders, but for everything else, any one will be enough for most people. Really happy with their performance.
@@thesahdstudio I game too, and have a big Steam library I didn't want to lose, so I didn't abandon Windows completely. I picked up one of those refurbished SFF Dell OptiPlex PCs, the 7010, off eBay. It came with Windows 10, 16GB RAM, and 240GB SSD. I added a 512GB SSD for game storage and an RTX A2000 low profile GPU, and have been able to play my games at medium settings. I also swapped out the i5 CPU for an i7, but I can't say that made much of a difference. It didn't cost much though, and I enjoy tinkering with computers (something I can't do on my Macs).
The M3 Max doe have more cores than the M1 Max especially GPU scores so being slightly faster makes sense. I was going to get a M3 Max but would of had to go with less RAM and onboard storage, I found a refurbished M1 Max and saved money and got the full amount of RAM and storage I wanted. My only regret is I bought a 14" Macbook Pro and my old eyes running Ableton Live the screen is small, so I am looking into trading it in for a 16" or maybe just go with an external monitor. You want to get more out of your setup do as I would do when I worked as a SysAdmin designing and building servers, dedicate it to the task and do nothing else on it. So stop running games and other stuff at the same time, get a second computer to be your non-work computer for internet, gaming, and all your day to day usage. Leave your most power computer setup to do work only. I got into working that way when I was a computer programmer and a place I work gave us two computers one for all our programming work and a second for doing email and other office tasks on.
Yeah that's not bad advice. Like you I'm considering a monitor, but then eventually my mind I'm thinking I could also get a switch, then build a desktop for when I want to have some fun and maybe play some games or do VFX editing... then like you said just do the bulk of my work on my work laptop. To be honest I'm always surprised when people get smaller laptops. I guess if you're moving around a lot the weight and size makes a difference, but I just LOVE having bigger screens, I would have bought a bigger laptop if they made one! lol
You know I had a whole thing where I talked about the computer but I edited it out lol. It's the 16" with 32gb ram and 1 tb hard drive. My new friend who sold it to me knows an Apple tech, so he took it in and the AppleCare replaced the entire top deck (battery / fans / keyboard) as well as the CPU / GPU / Ram / Memory. The only thing they didn't replace was the screen which was never used since the freelancer who used this pc used it docked. It's mint! 100% battery health!
M1 Max vs M3 Max? I can get an M1 Max 64/2TB 10/32 cores for $2100 and an M3 Max 36/1TB 14/30 cores for $2750. I don't care about the RAM and storage, since both are plenty coming from 8/256. I have a video editing and programming workflow. Is it worth the extra $650? What are all the differences that you have observed? I can list a few from the top of my head that might be worth to me, like 2 more efficiency cores, 1 more year of updates, Wifi 6E, BT 5.3, but I would like to hear from someone who has used both. What do you suggest?
It really depends on how you use the computer. For ME with video editing as my main use, it was not worth that extra money for the M3. That's a phone or Watch/Headphones combo worth of savings right there. The only real difference was the battery life, and even still the M1 Max is so good. The M3 Max was just incredible. Other than that in my day to day use I couldn't even notice a difference. Like you said the newer tech is nice but not something that is noticeable to me. I would be mindful of the ram and storage though especially if you plan on keeping it for years. The way Mac's can use the SSD as Virtual Memory if they don't have ram is something to consider but yeah, probably not a huge issue for most of us. I mean I think my actions speak louder than my words. I returned both the M3 Pro AND M3 Max, bought a used M1 Max from marketplace with AppleCare and I am extremely happy with the value.
@@thesahdstudio Yep, the price difference and what it could fetch instead of an unnoticeable improvement is something to consider as well. Thanks for the heads up!
@@thesahdstudio One more thing to add. The only thing that is swaying me away from the M1 max now is the update situation. Theroretically, the M3 max should get 2 more years of updates, but since the M1 max was launched in late 2021 and we had 2 chip releases in 2023, I'm thinking the difference is down to just 1 year (more like the M1 vs M2, instead of M1 vs M3). What do you think will be the situation down the line? How long do you think will each last including security patches? To me, early 2028 is the sweet spot, ie. 4 years from now. Do you think the M3 will will be worth it over time by recovering costs in the form of longer support?
@@hypno0784 Honestly l wish I had a better answer for you. This is my first Mac so I have zero experience in this world. All I know is I get a lot of people commenting how they're still using their laptops from 10+ years ago. So that's a good sign to me these are quality products. In my case the M1 Max literally cost HALF the price of the M3 Max... so no, I don't think it would have been worth it for me. I'm not sure what prices you could get a used Max for so it's hard for me to say. Touch call friend. Gotta follow your gut on this one!
I had an M1 Max 16 and loved everything about it but the size. Now I’m an M3 Pro 14” guy. Decided all that horse power for me was like a 700hp car to drive to the grocery store and back.😂 Fun, but overkill, very expensive overkill! The M1 Max is a great chip and iconic. It will serve you more than well!
@@thesahdstudio I actually traded in enough stuff once it paid for a 12.9 M1 iPad Pro. You can get both a trade in value or gift cards for future purchases. Probably get less value than selling it direct, but a huge convenience factor which to me is worth a lot. Time = $ and all.
In my opinion it's just a matter of updating resolve to take advantage of the new hardware of the m3 max... in the next releases things will certainly improve (much faster gpu than the m1 and m2 and dynamic memory) certainly when exploited by the software they will give a nice boost in performance
Yeah hopefully! The video editing performance was still really solid. With what I learned about smart rendering etc.. I would be more than happy with the overall performance. I am just able to get close to that with spending a lot less which is big for me and where I'm at in the moment, you know?
I went from a MacBook Pro i9 32 GB to the MacBook Pro 16 M3 Max 16/40 with 64 GB and 2 TB and I'm very happy with the leap in performance and the crazy battery life! I work with solve for color, final cut, after effect, lightroom, photoshop, illustrator and I find it very fast. Returning to resolve, I am confident that with updates the speed of the plugins will improve (magic mask, etc.) because objectively it cannot have the same speed as an m1 max! It's significantly faster in everything! more bandwidth, much faster CPU and GPU than the M1 Max! the benches that take full advantage of the features demonstrate this. It's up to the black magic developers to compile the software better to get the benefits. I'm still waiting for them to take advantage of the neural engine to further speed up the GPU and CPU.
@@jakdaniel1975 Yeah I agree man. It'll be interesting to see what happens! I'm happy with the M1 Max but I have to admit, the battery is no match for the M3 Max. I sure miss that battery! The performance isn't as noticeable for how I use the machines though... but the battery... that 3nm chip just sips the power!
I guess it is what you do with it. I bought the M1 pro max some years ago for messing around in. Blender and for music. It's a beast with even 50 x Ominsphere open in Ableton. But the crackling speakers is a fault! Never expected this from Apple. I solgved it, but it's something that shouldn't be there for that 4.900 euro Machine (4tb ssd) I had the 32 RAM... Powerful beast but a horror for Blender. I was so fed up with Apple so a few months ago I bought the Lenovo Legion i9 13980 Hx laptop watercooled etc. with 64 ram 2 tb ssd and the rtx 4090. I thought... this is the one! Again Blender issues. Waiting times of several seconds (same as the M1) But the most ridiculous part of all, is the incredible small touch pad on the Lenovo. Maybe because of the numpad I wanted, but still... I can't handle a mouse, so the pad is why I hate that thing...( another 5000,- euro... It's also not Apple, eventhough it's not cheap plastic, it's still plastic. And the fan noise compared to Apple... Sleep 1 night with a vacuum cleaner on, next to your bed. I mean not just noisy, but annoyingly hard... So eventually last week I bought the M3 Max with 4 tb ssd and 96RAM. 7000,00 euros.... Guess what? Not impressed and still render times in between projects and even during a simple Blend file I hear the fans where I don't hear the same ones on the M1 max. So I am done with thinking a laptop can handle easily a program like Blender. On not even too complex animations. Or I am doing something terribly wrong in Blender. But to whoever wanbts to go from the M1 max to the M3... I think it's not worth it!
I'm kind of in the same boat is you... in fact I'm back to considering building a desktop. Having a capable laptop is nice but there's only so much you can really do on portable power...
Yeah word. The M1 Max hasn't been great for gaming however, I'm starting to find games that play well on it. You playing anything fun right now? I'm jamming Death Must Die on Steam. It's fun! @@Evilclocker
Not surprised. M1 is amazing and there's zero reason to get anything more powerful. The M2 and M3 are incremental updates. Maybe the M4 will be worth it... maybe. But i doubt it. Apple made M1 too good.
Yeah exactly... the M4 won't be much better than the M3's but they'll have OLED etc.. they'll be a little better but like you said, they aren't coming out with anything insane since the M1's came. My M1 Max still rips!
Yeah I eventually learned that! Though it does use up quite a lot of space. I saw you CAN put that cache folder on an external drive but, that's a bit of a pain. More stuff to have/buy which defeats the purpose of getting a laptop to do it all.
I wasn't able to compare those two side by side but based on the experience the M1 Max is better for my needs. If I didn't do 4K video editing the M3 Pro is just better all around... It has the color... The longer support... The faster more efficient chips... But the extra video encoders on the max chip even on the M1 is noticeable while video editing. I'm happy with my choice and would make it again. Hope that helps.
@@thesahdstudio Thank you so much!! I appreciate so much you taking the time. I bought the M2 Max MBP 16" a few hours ago and should be here tomorrow. Will need to test them both and compare. I'm just getting buyers remorse. I just feel so at home with this color and how snappy and battery efficient the M3 pro is. It's just on that editing timeline where it starts to get complicated. And I know that today it's not as much but I am growing my channel as you are and will be adding more and more to the editing workflow. It's so contradictory that the older model is going to be the better one.
@areitze haha oh I know the pain as I went through three different laptops to get to this one! I can't wait to hear what you think. If you remember please keep me posted on how things go.... At this point the M4s will be out in 6 months! I'm just saying... Lol
@@thesahdstudio oh don’t get me started lol!! I actually started with an Alienware M16 with a RTX 4070. But battery was nothing (3-4 hours) and it did never work as should. So many driver issues. And windows was always with sleep and power issues. I just can’t. Out. That’s when I got the MBP m3 Pro. Soooo hahaha
I just published my reviews too. Put in an Easter egg 😉 hope you like it MacBook Pro Review: M3 Pro Vs M2 Max in 2024 th-cam.com/video/CdaOODy_J_4/w-d-xo.html (I replayed before but can’t find it)
@@thesahdstudio Editing in Premiere - but my problem is more - buy a new M3 for a lot of money or a used M1 for a lot of money ... I think I'm leaning towards buying new
@@FutureTechPilot Yeah I hear you. The peace of mind buying new is nice. I was lucky to get a used laptop that was practically brand new and comes with AppleCare but that might be hard to find. Performance-wise the M1 Max has been sufficient for me and I was able to save thousands.
And I do none of this editing. I build houses BUT I will be running Linux virtual Machines via UTM and Linux likes lots of RAM. Just bought brand new in the box a 32 Core GPU 32GB RAM M1 Max. So excited My M1 Air is just a kick around Mac and its great with the 512 SSD but 1 TB on my new Max. Apple Silicon can now run Linux. Mac Terminal commands in the CLI are very much like Linux. I live in the Apple CLI
Sick! Did you get a decent deal on it? I'm still really happy with my M1 Max though to be honest, I've been getting a bit into gaming lately so I'm kind of bummed it can't natively run Steam games etc... but whatever, I've got an Xbox. I bought this for video editing and it's fantastic for that!
Haha awesome! Yeah the M1 Max still just rips. It always amazes me when I try other computers that AREN'T Apple Silicon just how fast they are.... and the battery!
@yousifosama2592 I don't have the m3 max anymore so I can't say for sure, but yeah I mean it does those thing's fairly well... Not as good as a desktop with a dedicated video card. It's a gnarly machine but ultimately it didn't do that stuff well enough for me to justify the price.
I bought it used on marketplace. I got to know the seller outside of Facebook. He was the tech guy for a company who bought these laptops for their employees. Before he sold me this one it went back to the Apple store for a FULL makeover... they replaced the top deck which includes everything (battery/keyboard/cpu/etc) so it's practically brand new. It still has 100% battery health which is great.
FYI this M1 Max has 10/32 cores with 32gb ram and a 1tb hard drive.
The M3 has 16/40 cores with 48gb ram and a 1tb hard drive.
ALSO I have "Use Optimize Media If Available" checked on in Resolve but I can assure you I'm NOT editing with proxies. These computers are just THAT good.
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Sorry the M 3 Max comes with up to 50+ GPU cores its like 2/3 less than the M 2 Apple Cinema which is over marketed and can’t deliver what it promises. & cost a lot more that a maxed out M 3 Max
I decided to go with the M1 max chip version also! The price tag DOES make a big difference for me. I'm a small business owner, so having the M3 Max price tag be so astronomical without proven performance difference, I decided that buying a new M1 max was the way to go for me. When there is a big difference, I'll invest in a better model. Thanks so much for helping me make this decision based on your experience and for sharing that with everyone! This is why the internet is so great!
Thanks for the great comment! And that's awesome others are feeling the same way. Did you get yours refurbed?!
Besides the battery being a little worse, it doesn't feel much difference at all for how I use it. Similar performance for so much savings!
Alternative thought process for going for M3 version now is to think about the future years when M1 version would slow down considerably earlier than M3 thus making M3 durable/usable for more time.
Comparing the performance in the present would obviously make it overkill with that price now but if wanting the device to last some good years, it's always advisable to go for newer versions.
@@PritishBharti I know what you are saying for sure... I think that Apple crushed it with the Silicon chip though, and based on what we know now, the M1 stuff is still great. AI will be a thing in the near future but we have no clue how it will be implemented into future apps and tech. The price jump between the m1 and m3 is significant, especially based on our current software and needs. So there's no point (for us) to buy something that may or may not be useful in the future but not anymore useful right now.
@@thesahdstudioI went with the m3 max cause I’m a video editor and I need the best performance when editing other people work but I think u could of went something better like maybe a m2 max
When you mention the new M1 Max, are you referring to used ones? Do you know if it's possible to buy them new? I am aware that refurbished ones are available from Apple, but my question is whether you are purchasing them from the black market or ice. Sell My Mac or Amazon, but I'm not sure if that's the best option. Also, I don't think there are many new M1 Max models available unless someone had a large overstock a long time ago.
Just bought an M1 14" CTO with Max CPU and 64gb of ram for $1799. It smokes the M3 I just purchased. I'm taking the M3 back. That M1 never gets hot either. It's insane.
Nice find! Yeah any of the max chips just smoke the pros when it comes to video editing. I don't know if you saw my newer video but I built a brand new Intel desktop and the M1 Max is handling it like a boss.
Great video.
You were not aware of the issue with animations is because no one has shown it in TH-cam. They just say it's insane for video editing not testing it in-depth.
Thanks for converting little nuances like this!
Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it! I'm trying to learn all this stuff on my own which is difficult... So I almost felt stupid for not knowing! Because like you said, nobody else talks about it.
I hope I can at least help others on their journey.
Appreciate the support 👊
Yes I noticed this too. So incredibly disengenuine they just do what gets the views. Apple silicon can NOT handle massive effects without dropping frames or needing to turn on proxy / lower res timeline. It just can't. Even the Max. and I don't have a studio but I'm guessing it applies to it as well.
I originally had an M1 Air and while it can edit videos it was extremely limited with effects.... So i said screw it i'll get the best Max you can buy. To my surprise, while yes it was faster than the air, only barely for effects like magic mask. Like less than 10 frames per sec difference in speed.
It's pretty damn sad, because all the youtubers lead you to believe Apple Silicon is amazing for video editing and can't be beat and is the best thing for a creative to have. How? A 5 year old windows machine with a 3070 can smoke it considerably?
anyways. I've since purchased a windows laptop with 4090 so i'll be doing some crazy comparisons. I suspect the windows laptop smokes it in every possible way relating to editing. But we will see.
@@sotonin I'd be interested to hear how your comparison goes. This video may be of interest to you: th-cam.com/video/PzY0sSjGl5s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=U9tSQj_wWoOz8Fnt
The Windows machine with a 4090 will no doubt be faster for most GPU intensive tasks, but bear in mind that some common codecs on an Intel/NVidia systems may not have the hardware acceleration that Apple Silicon provides. 10-bit H.264 seems a bit hit and miss depending on the system you have. H.265/HEVC seems to be better supported. Not sure about ProRes / BRAW etc, but it is definitely advisable to find some real-world examples that use *exactly* the same hardware/software combinations and workflows that you intend to use before jumping into any given system.
@@johngwheeler I have not done any indepth comparisons yet. but I can tell you that the 4090 smokes all apple silicon on magic mask. It's actually usable on the windows PC.
basic stuff like cutting and skipping around through footage also works perfectly smooth comparable to any of my apple silicon machines. I only have a few video cameras though so no fancy codecs. just H264
in summary, the windows machine beats out my M1 air and M1 Pro Max machine handily without any stress or downsides (so far)
This naturally revealed the apple shills on yt. They buy the maxed out spec ones and then go “woah its fastttt” lol at what??? I cant find it but theres an asain guy who actually compares the laptops on all specs in real world tasks. It ended up that all the max chips are damn near the same within a margin of literally seconds.
you’re awesome!! you’re making exactly all the videos i need to make the best decision. thank you brother!!!
Awesome my dude, glad you found the video! 👊
Love how you dance with your kids ❤
😍 one of the perks of the job!
Thanks for the comment :)
I've watched your series of M1 vs M3 Max videos and found them to be very thorough and educational - great job!
What seems apparent is that for the *majority* of editing tasks there isn't any significant advantage to the M3 Max, and that for those tasks that do stress the machines, they *both* fail to play back in real-time - just to differing degrees. This *could* be a big deal to some people if they spend so much time doing heavy-weight tasks that a 20-30% improvement equates would have a big impact on their throughput, but for a lot of people waiting "a few seconds longer" for an effect to render is not a big deal at all, particularly if you're not working to a deadline or being paid by the hour.
In any case, the various optimisation options that are available in Resolve may make the difference a moot point.
Watching these videos has most definitely removed my sense of FOMO at "only" having a entry level M1 Max....it's still a great machine that could last me for years.
Glad you found the video and thanks for the comment! Yeah I completely agree with you. Crazily enough I'm in the process of building a PC specifically for video editing and a bit of gaming and the M1 Max is still competing and beating the big machine in certain areas. Apple almost made the M1 Max too good, and I think you're right you will still be happy with its performance for years. While it is always nice to have the latest tech, the M1 is just so easy to recommend for the price.
Hey man, please help me, I've been using windows my entire life, but revently got into a business that requires video editing not too many effects though (just couple of visual layers and text and perhaps music and dialogue), and I am using premiere pro.
So which one should I go for M2 Max? Or is the M3 pro good enough
I mean the Pro is good enough... the Max has extra encoders on there and it does make a difference when you're working on multiple 4k clips. The Pro can get by though, especially if you make proxies.
I'd take a look on the used market... see if you can pick up an older Max that still has AppleCare maybe? If not, check the refurbed section on the Apple store. Just make sure you bump up the ram to 32 if you decide on the M3 Pro. The one I bought only had 18gb ram and it definitely felt like it had bottlenecks while video editing... I don't know if that was from the ram or the less encoders on the chip.
Hy so its me again, im thinking of buying the M3pro with 1 TB mainly for 4k video editing. Do you think the M3pro is enough or would you go for the m3 Pro max?
Hey! You know, you could get by using the M3 Pro... it's fine. It's good. But it's not great. You will hit a bottleneck if/when you start to expand your skills and want try new things like layering videos etc. I think it's worth the extra money if you are serious about video editing, absolutely. You could consider a refurbed m1/m2 like I did, but if you can afford it the M3 Max is the way to go for sure.
I stopped buying new tech along time ago. Just not cost effective to have the latest and greatest.
I know right? I agree. The benefit for me in this case was that I was able to get that return Window which I wouldn't have gotten buying used... and since I've always been curious about Apple products, well my curiosity finally got the best of me.
Do you use Apple products?
@thesahdstudio Yes I made the switch to Mac about 20 years ago. The ease of use and reliability is second to none. Apple is known for the not so secret incremental upgrade business model. Not surprising that the m1 Is comparable. I am currently using a m1 mini that is maxed out. I've been considering getting an iPhone for convenience as well. It's the same story there as well. You don't need a 15 pro max just get a 13 or 14 and save your money.
Interesting. I'm curious about those Mini's. Be fun to play around with one.
Good call about the older phone... though I know only the 15's have USB-C which would be nice... maybe at the end of this year I'll shop for them when people start buying 16's @@DestinationUnknown4x4
Great choice. Use the best tool for the job. And there are lots of tools at lots of different price points. Happy to hear your M1 Max can handle what you need at a price that makes sense for you.
Keep them coming!
Thanks! It's taken me get awhile to get here, but I'm happy to be here. And it's just the little things I'm growing to like. For example, the keyboard on these Max laptops is just nice. At first it was fine... but now, when I go back to my Windows machine it's just not satisfying to use. You just start to miss this stuff when you don't have it once you get used to it. Definitely seems like the sweet spot of value for me.
Thank you, great video ! Got myself a m1 max ;)
Thanks for watching! And that's awesome... How is it?!
I picked up an M1 Max a months ago on a whim because it was such a low price. Was used as a desktop its whole life so it’s in mint condition. It’s so good that I’m thinking of selling my Mac Studio M2 Max.
Crazy! I know... they're so good right? Mine still rips too. Yeah I mean that's extra money you could use for so much other stuff right?
Hey great video!! Thanks for the insights! Looking to get either M1 or M2 Max chip within a good budget. Do you have any recommendations for the perfect store/site in the US to purchase from that can ensure that the M1/M2 Max Chip has a 100% performance battery?
Exciting! Honestly, I don't. I mean you can buy directly from the Apple store for refurbished right? That might be the best option but maybe not the cheapest? Probably the safest though. Let me know what you get. I'm still happy with my M1 Max though I will be selling it soon since I just built a big desktop!
I would recommend trying Final Cut Pro or an application that is optimized for silicon on MacOS. Rosetta is going to be a non-starter for video or motion graphics in anything. And honestly, a lot of third-party apps, including Adobe’s suite, require you to go in and change the settings to allow for using the M3 Max as a GPU or VRAM, and up the available memory for them since the unified memory system often requires you to allow for higher than minimum required memory settings. Since it’s still early, I would always research how to optimize the application for Apple Silicon so that you can take advantage of the power it has on board, particularly unified memory. Most physical GPU cards have realistically between 8-24GB if you’re lucky, but more if you’re shelling out more. So if the settings are by default set to using 8GB of available GPU memory, but you maxed out on 128GB of unified memory, you’re limiting yourself unless you take advantage of that massive memory bank.
Hey thanks for the tips. DaVinci resolve runs really well... I have tinkered around with final cut but I'm not sure if I want to take the plunge and learn something new at the moment you know? It's definitely something I'm considering though because I think you're right it would be better optimized.
Davinci is optimized. Welcome to the year 2024
M1 max 🔥 thank you, I’ve been eye balling since the m2 came out, prolly hold out till the m4 comes out tooo, more discount
Yeah IF you can still find one it'll be solid for a while still. I'm happy with mine. The battery and performance is what you'd hope for for the price point.
It will be really interesting to see what the competition does over the next year or so... hopefully that pushes Apple to make the newer ones even better.
Costco in the U.K. were clearing out the M1 Max with 64GB RAM and 4TB for £2500 and the M1 ultra studio with 64GB and 1TB for £2400. I already had the M1 Max base model but was tempted to buy and sell! In the end I ordered the ultra and use with a hub 😂
That's exactly what I did,,, bought the M1 max 64gb 4tb in costco and sell my M1pro,,,no regrets
Haha, a deal too tempting to pass up! Yeah I totally get it now. Any of the Silicon chips are just so good, once you find one with the ram/hard drive that works for you you're golden. It's almost the perfect machine.
PLUS you get that Costco warranty... that's sick.
Beauty. I'm a little jealous I'm not gonna lie... I'm rocking 32gb ram though it seems like enough for how I use it. But 4 tb?!? That's rad.
@@thesahdstudio yeah they were doing some crazy deals on M1 Pro/Max and Mac Studios. Especially as in the UK and Canada we often get ripped off vs U.S. (even taking into account taxes). If I didn’t have the same machine as your M1 Max I’d have grabbed the M1 Max deal. I have to say although I’m not currently using it to anywhere near the level it can achieve I know there is nothing I won’t be able to do on the M1 ultra and I’ve got it driving an LGC42 OLED. It’s only at 60hz but having used 60hz to 240hz for working on text based stuff I really don’t notice a difference.
Good call. And that sounds like a sick screen! Do you find any difference in performance when you are plugged in to the screen? I saw a whole thing about how MacBook resolution gets all wonky when you plug in to a 4K screen since it has to upscale then downscale (or vice versa) before it can get to 4k which sacrifices performance. Maybe that only is noticeable on weak MacBooks. @@richarddcrossley
i video edit for other people…. so time is money. would you say the m3 is better enough to create a significant enough difference exporting and monitoring ~15 hours of video podcast content per month? i’m also super curious about the m2.
Do you mean is the M3 Max better enough than the M1 Max? No. Definitely not. Any of the Max chips would be absolutely fine for pretty much any type of workload (especially if you use FCP).
Do you have/are you considering a Max model?
@@thesahdstudio Thanks for answering me!! I am considering a max or pro chip. i’ve talked to a lot of product experts who have recommended that the pro chip with upgraded ram is more than enough to handle music production and video editing software simultaneously.
@@landonmatthew Right on! I think the software you use affects the performance too. If you are going to use FCP which is optimized for the hardware, the Pro will be fine. If you are using Resolve or something else and get different footage from different cameras, I would always get the Max. But that's just me! Good luck with your choice.
@@thesahdstudio Excellent feedback. Thank you so much! I enjoyed the videos!
Nice comparison! I'm standing in this choice myself. Did you notice any difference when Color grading is added?
Thanks! And no, I didn't notice any differentce, but to be fair my colour grading process isn't too complicated. I'm not adding de-noise or anything other demanding effects to my footage. I'm still happy with the M1 for the price. I mean I still wish I had the M3 Max of course... it definitely was better. But for what I can buy for the difference in money it just wasn't worth it. Sorry, I know this message doesn't really help. They are both great options! The shiny new tax was just too much for me.
If you choose between max chips I think the sweet spot now days is m2 max. It has some improvements and should have longer support. M3 max seems a chip for those who is still on intel macs and coming to the time of upgrade.
I would have liked to get the M2 Max also, however, it would have cost well over $1,000 (CAD) more than the M1 Max. Based on the difference in performance between the M1 and M3 in how I use it, I didn't think the extra cost would have been worth it. I have edited a couple videos on the M1 since making this video and I am still really happy with it. I will say the battery is noticeably worse than the M3 so I bet the M2 would be better. And you're right, the extra support is always nice. But, I'm still happy with the deal I got!
Thanks for comparation! Great job!
Appreciate the comment! Thank you 👊
would you say the m1 max or the m3 pro would be better for editing with alot of vfx and effects?
They would be pretty similar in performance I imagine. I will say I feel like the M3 line has a much better battery life but it has less video in court orders so it will be worse for normal video editing. To be honest if I was going to edit with a lot of VFX and effects I don't think I would get either of them. That's the one area where I found them to be pretty weak. You could use smart rendering but then your probably want an external hard drive.
I decided to go with a M1 Max with 64GB ram model, as a full stack system admin, ram capacity is much more important and practical...
Yeah sweet, that is still such a beast of a machine I can't believe it. You happy with it?
m3 max offers 128 gb memory. which is useful... at least for my purposes plus fresh battery
Yeah the M3 Max is a monster there is no question. 128gb! Wooo, that'd be nice. Not cheap though... but nice 👊
What kind of windows laptop did you have that it would break or freeze with this basic editing? Just curious
I had this: ASUS ROG Zephyrus 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Black (AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS/1TB SSD/16GB RAM/RTX 2060)
m1 pro and m1 max are still stellar products and dollar per performace is on pair with m3 pro and m3 max. so not difficult to choose if you want powehouise and dollars in your pocket.
Yeah you got it man... value-wise they are still fantastic as long as you can get a machine in good condition. I am really happy with my M1 Max and am going to make a video talking about it soon because I think it's still a great option.
I would love if someone did a review from a photographers perspective, this was a really good video, but this and every other video I’ve seen reviews it from a video editing perspective.
Yeah I hear you. Is photo editing that demanding really? I actually have no idea. Maybe it is. I think video editing presents a lot of hurdles for computers to make it a smooth/nice experience... so it's easy to showcase how and where some computer are better than others. Like gaming right? It's easier to show how one is better than the other.
@@thesahdstudio regarding photo editing demands vs the range of video demands per project or scenario: Imagine starting with a 100Mp camera file such as my fuji gfx, then a shot requiring multiple exposures for a range of light and/or capturing a person or object here and there over time to create something that didn't exist all at the same moment. it's at 5-15 image file layers now before any applied adjustment layers.
Next consider it's a stitched panorama, even if only 3 wide for overlap, the working file is now 45 x 100 Mp plus all the adjustment layers, it's getting into the several Gb file size by now. RAM is important but so is the GPU when you go to use a filter such as Topaz sharpen or Gigapixel.
To me, the 128 RAM alone is enough urge to rerplace my M1 max 64Gb with an M3 max 128 Gb, plus the GPU.
There are other workflow things such as batch processing full res jpg or raw conversion that more cores and ram help with. A lot of great info for photographers is on the Lloyd Chambers pages with tons of testing specifically for photo editing.
@@jwestpro Interesting! Thanks for sharing. Appreciate it. 👊
if nothing can do it ... why sweat it ... coool
What computer are you rocking?
My M1 MacBook Air has greater battery Life than the M3 Max MacBook Pro 36gb and 1tb SSD but the M3 does perform better than my two other M1 Max Mac Studios. Studio 32 have 5 cameras and is the base model. Studio 64 also have 5 cameras and they are great. I still rather use the M3 Max. Cheers!
The Air laptops seem awesome. The m3 coming shortly will be hard not to recommend. Sounds like you are well invested in the ecosystem. So you rock all the other Apple stuff too (phone, watch etc)?
@@thesahdstudio Only have the iPhone 10s Max 256gb and it still runs great. Do not want a watch because I am always breaking them. The regular watches that you buy now the battery does not last and I am not talking about the cellphone watches that work with Bluetooth. I still get 18 hours of battery life for the M1 MacBook Air laptop 512gb of storage and full GPU Cores and CPU Cores on this model. I have connected 7 cameras to this machine and it worked great until Apple brought two more OS and then it got a little sluggish. The M3 Max took care of that but I still have to plug one camera into each one of the three Thunderbolt port s to not have any juddering/stuttering when using Ecamm Live Pro V4+. Cheers! BTW You dance better than I. 😆
@randallbrander8157 ok I gotta ask... What on earth are you doing that you need so many cameras?!!
@@thesahdstudio I am a Hoarder! If the camera still works I am using it. I just made a video lately of how many computers I really need? LOL! If the stuff still works use it. Cheers!
@@randallbrander8157 Haha that's awesome. Just saw your Canon Cameras vid. Cool setup! Cameras sure are fun to play around with aren't they :)
Does it get hot during video editing ? perhaps any different from M3 Pro as well..
None of the Max laptops get really hot with the type of editing I do. If you're using all sorts of motion graphics or 8k footage, it might... but for 4k timelines working with h.264/265 footage it's easy breezy. During rendering of the videos though they do warm up but nothing crazy. I couldn't even have my old Windows laptop on my lap. These are fine!
@@thesahdstudio Good to hear that. I have been on Intel MBP which easily get hot even doing simple tasks. Looking at your few videos, MAX chip is definitely far better at such use case. My next concern will be between 14" vs 16" due to the chassis difference.
Anyway, thanks for your feedback.
@@shafiemustaffa The 14'' seems like a nice size but I'm not going to lie, I'm a sucker for big screens. It's just great for everything you know? Work/play/relaxing.... I'd never get a smaller one but maybe it's worth heading down to BestBuy or whatever store is near you and handling the different sizes. Good luck!
My M1 Max has never ever gotten hot. not gaming not editing. never. It can get a little warm at best
this quest thing has really captured me. 😅 nice episodes.
Haha awesome! Wait until you see my latest vids! The quest never ends apparently 😆
@@thesahdstudio thanks for the videos. They always leave suspense and expectations indeed !
Cool hat Evan! $2800 price difference will buy many many more. Or an iPhone 15 with a great cellphone camera in your pocket.
Thanks! I know right? It's a lot of money... I'd like to buy a new light and maybe mic too. Hopefully they return the money 🤣
Maybe I HATE paying full price for a phone though. Yeesh. And used iPhone prices lol
I like ur background.
Thanks man, I really appreciate you saying that! 👊
I haven't done a side-by-side comparison like you did, but from my personal experience I can say that my refurb'd M1 Pro more than meets my needs.
My take away going through all of this is that pretty much ANY Silicon chip is just fantastic. The Max chips are better for editing videos because of the extra encoders, but for everything else, any one will be enough for most people. Really happy with their performance.
@@thesahdstudio I think you made the smart choice.
@bryans8656 thanks man! Yeah it seems to be the sweet spot for me! Wish there was more games available but what can you do... Nothing is perfect!
@@thesahdstudio I game too, and have a big Steam library I didn't want to lose, so I didn't abandon Windows completely. I picked up one of those refurbished SFF Dell OptiPlex PCs, the 7010, off eBay. It came with Windows 10, 16GB RAM, and 240GB SSD. I added a 512GB SSD for game storage and an RTX A2000 low profile GPU, and have been able to play my games at medium settings. I also swapped out the i5 CPU for an i7, but I can't say that made much of a difference. It didn't cost much though, and I enjoy tinkering with computers (something I can't do on my Macs).
Yeah sounds like you've been having some fun tinkering around. You playing anything fun right now?
The M3 Max doe have more cores than the M1 Max especially GPU scores so being slightly faster makes sense. I was going to get a M3 Max but would of had to go with less RAM and onboard storage, I found a refurbished M1 Max and saved money and got the full amount of RAM and storage I wanted. My only regret is I bought a 14" Macbook Pro and my old eyes running Ableton Live the screen is small, so I am looking into trading it in for a 16" or maybe just go with an external monitor.
You want to get more out of your setup do as I would do when I worked as a SysAdmin designing and building servers, dedicate it to the task and do nothing else on it. So stop running games and other stuff at the same time, get a second computer to be your non-work computer for internet, gaming, and all your day to day usage. Leave your most power computer setup to do work only. I got into working that way when I was a computer programmer and a place I work gave us two computers one for all our programming work and a second for doing email and other office tasks on.
Yeah that's not bad advice. Like you I'm considering a monitor, but then eventually my mind I'm thinking I could also get a switch, then build a desktop for when I want to have some fun and maybe play some games or do VFX editing... then like you said just do the bulk of my work on my work laptop.
To be honest I'm always surprised when people get smaller laptops. I guess if you're moving around a lot the weight and size makes a difference, but I just LOVE having bigger screens, I would have bought a bigger laptop if they made one! lol
Which one did you get? 14 inch?
You know I had a whole thing where I talked about the computer but I edited it out lol. It's the 16" with 32gb ram and 1 tb hard drive. My new friend who sold it to me knows an Apple tech, so he took it in and the AppleCare replaced the entire top deck (battery / fans / keyboard) as well as the CPU / GPU / Ram / Memory. The only thing they didn't replace was the screen which was never used since the freelancer who used this pc used it docked. It's mint! 100% battery health!
M1 Max vs M3 Max? I can get an M1 Max 64/2TB 10/32 cores for $2100 and an M3 Max 36/1TB 14/30 cores for $2750. I don't care about the RAM and storage, since both are plenty coming from 8/256. I have a video editing and programming workflow. Is it worth the extra $650? What are all the differences that you have observed? I can list a few from the top of my head that might be worth to me, like 2 more efficiency cores, 1 more year of updates, Wifi 6E, BT 5.3, but I would like to hear from someone who has used both. What do you suggest?
It really depends on how you use the computer. For ME with video editing as my main use, it was not worth that extra money for the M3. That's a phone or Watch/Headphones combo worth of savings right there. The only real difference was the battery life, and even still the M1 Max is so good. The M3 Max was just incredible. Other than that in my day to day use I couldn't even notice a difference. Like you said the newer tech is nice but not something that is noticeable to me.
I would be mindful of the ram and storage though especially if you plan on keeping it for years. The way Mac's can use the SSD as Virtual Memory if they don't have ram is something to consider but yeah, probably not a huge issue for most of us.
I mean I think my actions speak louder than my words. I returned both the M3 Pro AND M3 Max, bought a used M1 Max from marketplace with AppleCare and I am extremely happy with the value.
@@thesahdstudio Yep, the price difference and what it could fetch instead of an unnoticeable improvement is something to consider as well. Thanks for the heads up!
@hypno0784 let me know what you end up doing!
@@thesahdstudio One more thing to add. The only thing that is swaying me away from the M1 max now is the update situation. Theroretically, the M3 max should get 2 more years of updates, but since the M1 max was launched in late 2021 and we had 2 chip releases in 2023, I'm thinking the difference is down to just 1 year (more like the M1 vs M2, instead of M1 vs M3). What do you think will be the situation down the line? How long do you think will each last including security patches? To me, early 2028 is the sweet spot, ie. 4 years from now. Do you think the M3 will will be worth it over time by recovering costs in the form of longer support?
@@hypno0784 Honestly l wish I had a better answer for you. This is my first Mac so I have zero experience in this world. All I know is I get a lot of people commenting how they're still using their laptops from 10+ years ago. So that's a good sign to me these are quality products.
In my case the M1 Max literally cost HALF the price of the M3 Max... so no, I don't think it would have been worth it for me. I'm not sure what prices you could get a used Max for so it's hard for me to say.
Touch call friend. Gotta follow your gut on this one!
I had an M1 Max 16 and loved everything about it but the size. Now I’m an M3 Pro 14” guy. Decided all that horse power for me was like a 700hp car to drive to the grocery store and back.😂 Fun, but overkill, very expensive overkill! The M1 Max is a great chip and iconic. It will serve you more than well!
Haha that's awesome. Yeah I bet the 14" M3 Pro is nice. The build quality... the efficiency. Good choice.
Did you sell your M1 Max privately?
16 is the way to go, 14 isfor the gay, weak and women
@@thesahdstudio Traded it through Apple and took advantage of their zero interest financing.
Nice! I guess once you are in the ecosystem you can trade in stuff eh... interesting.
@@thesahdstudio I actually traded in enough stuff once it paid for a 12.9 M1 iPad Pro. You can get both a trade in value or gift cards for future purchases. Probably get less value than selling it direct, but a huge convenience factor which to me is worth a lot. Time = $ and all.
In my opinion it's just a matter of updating resolve to take advantage of the new hardware of the m3 max... in the next releases things will certainly improve (much faster gpu than the m1 and m2 and dynamic memory) certainly when exploited by the software they will give a nice boost in performance
Yeah hopefully! The video editing performance was still really solid. With what I learned about smart rendering etc.. I would be more than happy with the overall performance. I am just able to get close to that with spending a lot less which is big for me and where I'm at in the moment, you know?
I went from a MacBook Pro i9 32 GB to the MacBook Pro 16 M3 Max 16/40 with 64 GB and 2 TB and I'm very happy with the leap in performance and the crazy battery life! I work with solve for color, final cut, after effect, lightroom, photoshop, illustrator and I find it very fast. Returning to resolve, I am confident that with updates the speed of the plugins will improve (magic mask, etc.) because objectively it cannot have the same speed as an m1 max! It's significantly faster in everything! more bandwidth, much faster CPU and GPU than the M1 Max! the benches that take full advantage of the features demonstrate this. It's up to the black magic developers to compile the software better to get the benefits. I'm still waiting for them to take advantage of the neural engine to further speed up the GPU and CPU.
@@jakdaniel1975 Yeah I agree man. It'll be interesting to see what happens! I'm happy with the M1 Max but I have to admit, the battery is no match for the M3 Max. I sure miss that battery! The performance isn't as noticeable for how I use the machines though... but the battery... that 3nm chip just sips the power!
It has nothing to do with that at all. All Apple silicon has the same problem because they don't have a dedicated GPU
M1 Max vs your Old windows laptop would be interesting to see
Good call! I'll test 'em for sure. The M1 should smoke it while video editing... but the VFX and gaming results... THAT will be interesting.
I guess it is what you do with it. I bought the M1 pro max some years ago for messing around in. Blender and for music. It's a beast with even 50 x Ominsphere open in Ableton. But the crackling speakers is a fault! Never expected this from Apple. I solgved it, but it's something that shouldn't be there for that 4.900 euro Machine (4tb ssd) I had the 32 RAM... Powerful beast but a horror for Blender. I was so fed up with Apple so a few months ago I bought the Lenovo Legion i9 13980 Hx laptop watercooled etc. with 64 ram 2 tb ssd and the rtx 4090. I thought... this is the one! Again Blender issues. Waiting times of several seconds (same as the M1) But the most ridiculous part of all, is the incredible small touch pad on the Lenovo. Maybe because of the numpad I wanted, but still... I can't handle a mouse, so the pad is why I hate that thing...( another 5000,- euro... It's also not Apple, eventhough it's not cheap plastic, it's still plastic. And the fan noise compared to Apple... Sleep 1 night with a vacuum cleaner on, next to your bed. I mean not just noisy, but annoyingly hard... So eventually last week I bought the M3 Max with 4 tb ssd and 96RAM. 7000,00 euros.... Guess what? Not impressed and still render times in between projects and even during a simple Blend file I hear the fans where I don't hear the same ones on the M1 max. So I am done with thinking a laptop can handle easily a program like Blender. On not even too complex animations. Or I am doing something terribly wrong in Blender. But to whoever wanbts to go from the M1 max to the M3... I think it's not worth it!
I'm kind of in the same boat is you... in fact I'm back to considering building a desktop. Having a capable laptop is nice but there's only so much you can really do on portable power...
@@thesahdstudio eventually that is what everyone tells me since day 1. A desktop… In the end I wil have that tok I guess… Expensive hobbies 😂
I did the same thing but then i saw my m1 max only had 90 day warrenty i sent it back to amazon. it was $1800 .
So what are you rocking right now... did you keep the M3?
@@thesahdstudio Yes i keep m3 pro. i did bunch of benchmark and when using Crossover to play DX 12 games the m3 pro is faster then m1 max
Yeah word. The M1 Max hasn't been great for gaming however, I'm starting to find games that play well on it. You playing anything fun right now? I'm jamming Death Must Die on Steam. It's fun! @@Evilclocker
Thank you !how about AE on M1&M3？
Sorry, what is AE? :)
Not surprised. M1 is amazing and there's zero reason to get anything more powerful. The M2 and M3 are incremental updates. Maybe the M4 will be worth it... maybe. But i doubt it. Apple made M1 too good.
Yeah exactly... the M4 won't be much better than the M3's but they'll have OLED etc.. they'll be a little better but like you said, they aren't coming out with anything insane since the M1's came. My M1 Max still rips!
what was the specs on the m1 and m3 max?
Both 16"... M1 was 32gb ram 10/32 cpu/gpu. M3 was 48gb ram 16/40 cpu/gpu. Both 1 tb hdd
thank you love this video. just what i was looking for @@thesahdstudio
@ailearners glad I could help!
Turn your smart render catche on it would’ve been faster ⚡️
Yeah I eventually learned that! Though it does use up quite a lot of space. I saw you CAN put that cache folder on an external drive but, that's a bit of a pain. More stuff to have/buy which defeats the purpose of getting a laptop to do it all.
Wise man! Enjoy the M1 Max!
Thanks 👊 took me awhile to figure it out but I got there.
How's the M3 Pro you had vs the M1 Max?
I wasn't able to compare those two side by side but based on the experience the M1 Max is better for my needs. If I didn't do 4K video editing the M3 Pro is just better all around... It has the color... The longer support... The faster more efficient chips... But the extra video encoders on the max chip even on the M1 is noticeable while video editing. I'm happy with my choice and would make it again. Hope that helps.
@@thesahdstudio Thank you so much!! I appreciate so much you taking the time. I bought the M2 Max MBP 16" a few hours ago and should be here tomorrow. Will need to test them both and compare. I'm just getting buyers remorse. I just feel so at home with this color and how snappy and battery efficient the M3 pro is. It's just on that editing timeline where it starts to get complicated. And I know that today it's not as much but I am growing my channel as you are and will be adding more and more to the editing workflow. It's so contradictory that the older model is going to be the better one.
@areitze haha oh I know the pain as I went through three different laptops to get to this one! I can't wait to hear what you think. If you remember please keep me posted on how things go.... At this point the M4s will be out in 6 months! I'm just saying... Lol
@@thesahdstudio oh don’t get me started lol!! I actually started with an Alienware M16 with a RTX 4070. But battery was nothing (3-4 hours) and it did never work as should. So many driver issues. And windows was always with sleep and power issues. I just can’t. Out. That’s when I got the MBP m3 Pro. Soooo hahaha
I just published my reviews too. Put in an Easter egg 😉 hope you like it MacBook Pro Review: M3 Pro Vs M2 Max in 2024
th-cam.com/video/CdaOODy_J_4/w-d-xo.html (I replayed before but can’t find it)
Thanks for the video man! I'm dealing with this decision right now, and it's a tough choice
Haha tell m about it! What do you plan on using it for? Maybe I can help.
@@thesahdstudio Editing in Premiere - but my problem is more - buy a new M3 for a lot of money or a used M1 for a lot of money ... I think I'm leaning towards buying new
@@FutureTechPilot Yeah I hear you. The peace of mind buying new is nice. I was lucky to get a used laptop that was practically brand new and comes with AppleCare but that might be hard to find. Performance-wise the M1 Max has been sufficient for me and I was able to save thousands.
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Pierogi!?
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And I do none of this editing. I build houses BUT I will be running Linux virtual Machines via UTM and Linux likes lots of RAM. Just bought brand new in the box a 32 Core GPU 32GB RAM M1 Max. So excited My M1 Air is just a kick around Mac and its great with the 512 SSD but 1 TB on my new Max. Apple Silicon can now run Linux. Mac Terminal commands in the CLI are very much like Linux. I live in the Apple CLI
Sick! Did you get a decent deal on it? I'm still really happy with my M1 Max though to be honest, I've been getting a bit into gaming lately so I'm kind of bummed it can't natively run Steam games etc... but whatever, I've got an Xbox. I bought this for video editing and it's fantastic for that!
@@thesahdstudio $2100 never opened. It will last me easily 7 years and I will never have a worry
@@thesahdstudio Bro I have zero time for gaming so its not for any editing gaming. Just typical use and Virtual Linux Machines and coding
You just saved me money lol
Haha awesome! Yeah the M1 Max still just rips. It always amazes me when I try other computers that AREN'T Apple Silicon just how fast they are.... and the battery!
How about speed ramp ??
Speed ramp is smooth like butter!
@@thesahdstudio what about tracking and stabilization ? M3 max 48 ram
@yousifosama2592 I don't have the m3 max anymore so I can't say for sure, but yeah I mean it does those thing's fairly well... Not as good as a desktop with a dedicated video card. It's a gnarly machine but ultimately it didn't do that stuff well enough for me to justify the price.
Did you buy this M1 Max BRAND new?? You are the first owner?
I bought it used on marketplace. I got to know the seller outside of Facebook. He was the tech guy for a company who bought these laptops for their employees. Before he sold me this one it went back to the Apple store for a FULL makeover... they replaced the top deck which includes everything (battery/keyboard/cpu/etc) so it's practically brand new. It still has 100% battery health which is great.
Well you also have the M ultra chips lol
Yeah it would be fun to play around with the ultras. What are you using?