@@useruseruser9152 Preparing for her execution, she had to change clothes in front of her guards. She wanted to wear a black dress but was forced to wear a plain white dress, white being the colour worn by widowed queens of France. Her hair was shorn, her hands bound painfully behind her back and she was put on a rope leash. Unlike her husband, who had been taken to his execution in a carriage (carrosse), she had to sit in an open cart (charrette) for the hour it took to convey her from the Conciergerie via the rue Saint-Honoré thoroughfare to reach the guillotine erected in the Place de la Révolution, the present-day Place de la Concorde.[208] She maintained her composure, despite the insults of the jeering crowd. A constitutional priest was assigned to hear her final confession. He sat by her in the cart, but she ignored him all the way to the scaffold as he had pledged his allegiance to the republic.[209] Marie Antoinette was executed by beheading by guillotine at 12:15p.m. on 16 October 1793.[210][211] Her last words are recorded as, "Pardonnez-moi, monsieur. Je ne l'ai pas fait exprès" or "Pardon me, sir, I did not do it on purpose", after accidentally stepping on her executioner's shoe.[212] Marie Tussaud was employed to make a death mask of her head.[213] Her body was thrown into an unmarked grave in the Madeleine cemetery, located close by in rue d'Anjou. Because its capacity was exhausted the cemetery was closed the following year, on 25 March 1794.[214]
@@useruseruser9152 she was wearing a plain white dress and accidentally tripped on her executioner's foot and said "pardon me sir, i did not do it on purpose"
Very inaccurate, Marie wasn't given any dignity when she was executed, her hair was cut short and she was tied up and wore a plain white dress, she tripped on her way to the guillotine and apologised to the executioner
There are detailed accounts of the event and there was no mention that this occurred. It's possible but fairly unlikely. The guilliotine is quite incorrect here also. It wasn't nearly this tall. Less than ten feet high. There would also have been a board used. No one was made to kneel. That would have been fairly cumbersome and impractical.
Her appearance and attitude in this are fictional. She wanted to wear a black dress but this was denied, she had to wear a plain white dress as this was for widowed queens of france. Her hair was shorn and her hands were tied painfully behind her back, she was also put on a leash of rope like a dog and transported to the guillotine on an open cart. To show what a beautiful and wrongfully accused lady she actually was she said this to the executioner ' pardon me sir i did not do it on purpose' after accidentally stepping on his shoe. 😢
@@niiodoi3981 but marie antoinette was still the queen of france. she failed her country and had everyone miserable while she lived in the best conditions.
@@laggychezburger she was a woman with very little say on the political affairs and war involvement, even as a queen. She gave to charity all the time, adopted quite a few children, tried to simplify the fashions of court (which would backfire terribly), she was always going to be hated being Austrian, the necklace scandal on top of the war losses in USA just created a doom spiral for the royal family. She was doomed to fail
The son of the executioner documented the last journey of Marie Antoinette.. When he was sent to collect her, she was sitting slumped in a chair with her head resting against the wall. The room she was in was called the death room, as it was the last place prisoners stayed before execution. She was being comforted by the prison guards daughter, who was in tears and embracing Marie. When Marie was led out, she saw the open cart, and was distraught at the sight of it, as she expected (like her husband was) to be taken to the scaffold in a closed carriage. She was then shackled to the cart bench and wheeled out of the gates. A mob had gathered just outside the gates, they immediately attacked and mauled at the cart, one of the men who yelled at her was one of the guards who was meant to be protecting her, he was quickly grounded by the other guards. The streets were so narrow, that the cart had to stop several times to clear the people out of the way. At this stage, they really didn't see her as human at all. Only the priest next to her helped her keep her composure. When she stepped of the cart, she showed slight fear at the sight of the guillotine, she was weak, but climbed the scaffold slowly but with heavy steps, she lost her shoe on the way up, as she stepped on the executioners foot, and said Pardon me, i didn't do it on purpose. These were her last words.
Her hair was shorn off, she wore a plain white dress (she had requested a black dress), and her hands were painfully tied behind her back before she left the prison.
Also, she was made to ride a slow cart through the entire city so that everybody could jeer and insult her and she could be impatient for death, but she held her head high and was brave to the end.
In real life the blade did not fall while attached to a rope. A rope could slow down the blade and make things rather messy. So the blade had a freefall.
@@Linchpin_TF No, the original revolutionary guillotines didn't have a fixed rope attached. They had a horizontal bar bolted on to the front of the sledge, and a lever on the frame held it up from the bottom. When they pulled the cord, the lever dropped down and the blade fell. The rope had a hook that would pull the sledge back up but then they unhooked it. Leaving it attached meant the danger of the rope getting twisted or bound up in the pulleys and slowing or stopping the blade as it fell.
Simulacra and simulation. That is the mix of fiction and mass media distortions makes it impossible to know what history was unless one is a historian. Also the copy of fiction, makes a illusion that the first fiction was not a fiction but facts.
Indeed. There is a famous video of a helicopter falling into the Chernobyl nuclear reactor after clipping some steel cables hanging down from a crane. Someone posted it on Twitter a while back and despite the video showing that the helicopter fell as result of it hitting the steel cables hanging from a crane, there was a guy in the replies adamant that it fell for a different reason and citing the HBO drama series as his evidence. According to him (this is a quote): "I actually do believe you're fucking with me. They are flying RIGHT OVER it, while it's still burning and releasing 20,000 roentgens per hour. The radiation fried the helicopter circuits and killed everyone on board. That's why it crashed." He chose to take the impression he was left with by an HBO TV drama series over factual documentary video PROOF. And he was getting a lot more likes for that tweet than the people arguing against it... People are braindead.
@@paulos9900 the uneducated and the self obsessed are easy to manipulate, because the education system has failed them. The modern culture also give « likes», to the information that is most entertaining, simplistic ( instead of hyper complex with a mix of causes, that leads to effects). They want it fast and fun as on TIKTOK. But are unable to se the long term effects of their « junk information» addiction. It’s realy sad. And scary 😳🥶
Dont see anyone commented on the fact Napoleon wasnt even at her execution. He was busy commanding the french forces in Toulon. I truly wanted to like this movie and in its own way it gives some neat vibes
Marie Antoinette's hair actually did turn white, due to the stress of her confinement and grief over the loss of her children. It's a real medical condition (look-up "canities"). The artist Jacques Louis David, an eyewitness, did a famous sketch of her, as she was being led to the guillotine. As she passed slowly down the street, people shouted insults and spit in their hands, and threw the globs at the woman who had been Queen. The French Revolution is too often romanticized. In truth, it was marked by horrifying cruelties. And savage mob violence. All done in the deceptively noble goal of "Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity".
The revolutionaries just wanted blood shed, and Marie was just a scapegoat. In fact she didn’t even say let them eat cake. That was penned way before the many accusations.
Even though she never that didnt change the fact that she was still out of touch of reality due to her lavish spendings despite the economic crisis that France was facing at that time
@@Satanna.avemaria not to mention it further made her unpopular and the rest of the royal family due to the lavish spendings and unfair tax quota systems that crippled the economy
@brandonelijahcasquejo2888 It's the fact that I KNOW yall would spend money out the wazoo, but seeing its someone else, they get killed for it. What a terrible excuse to kill someone.
You use morden standards to jugde the people who lived in 18th century, who suffered the farmine, who had to work alllife for survival. Their outtrage were not transient...
Marie Antoinette was 12 yrs younger than the actress portraying her in the movie. She was 37 yrs old. Also as pointed out in the comments below, she was mistreated and humiliated on her route to the Guillotine.
She seemed ready, having endured nearly two excruciating years in prison. The conditions were more than unbearable; her cell was tiny and filthy, covered in grime, and the drinking water was contaminated. Her only wish was to be reunited with her husband. She lived under constant surveillance by guards, her every action monitored without any privacy. Even basic tasks like changing and bathing had to be done in full view of the guards. They often blew smoke in her face and insulted her family. She also had to witness the horrifying sight of her dear friend, the generous and deeply charitable Princess of Lamballe, whose severed head was paraded beneath her prison cell. The princess had been brutally killed by a mob simply because of her association with the queen. In 1793, when her children were abducted and given to the revolutionaries, she spent hours trying to catch a glimpse of her son. Within a short time, he was manipulated into turning against her, accusing his own mother falsely. She was eventually transferred to the Conciergerie, where all her ties to the outside world were severed. During her trial, she faced numerous unfounded accusations, the most heinous being the false claim that she had committed incest with her 8-year-old son. When the verdict of her execution was announced, she was made to wear a simple white dress, her hair was cut short, her hands were painfully tied behind her back, and she was led on a rope leash. Unlike her husband, who was taken to his execution in a carriage, she had to endure an hour-long journey from the Conciergerie to the guillotine in an open cart. After her execution, her body was callously thrown into an unmarked grave... Yet, she maintained remarkable courage and dignity to the very end. Imagine being just 14 years old, leaving your family to marry a stranger in a foreign land. A few years later, you're expected to lead and reform an entire nation burdened by centuries of corruption, all while under pressure to produce an heir to the throne. On top of these challenges, she faced prejudice for her Austrian heritage and was unjustly made a scapegoat. Far from being disconnected from reality, she was much like the late Princess Diana. Growing up, she often visited farmer cottages to offer soup and bread to impoverished families. In France, she adopted many orphans and provided them with an education etc. She also became a patron of the Maison Philanthropique, aiding the poor and disabled. Moreover, she even built homes for unwed or widowed mothers.
She also assisted during times of drought and often contributed her own money to help those in need. Disliking the lavishness of court life, she was given the Trianon retreat, where she preferred a simpler life surrounded by family and friends. She even made the "chemise à la reine" popular as a way to liberate herself from the constraints of formal court garb... and when she attempted to encourage the court to adopt this humbler lifestyle, she faced criticism and ridicule. She never wanted to be the dauphine, let alone the queen. Her mother had initially seen her as a mere decorative figure at the Viennese court, but fate clearly had other plans for her. her closest friends were incredibly charitable too! ^
@@MargueriteFrancoisedeBuffonvielen Dank, das ist ein wirklich sehr interessanter Kommentar. Die tragische Geschichte von Marie Antoinette geht mir sehr nahe und ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass sie nur dekadent und egozentrisch war. Das Volk braucht immer einen Sündenbock, so war es schon immer 😢ich hoffe, sie kann in Frieden ruhen
When I first say this. Marie Antoinette didn't show much expression. She just silent and held her head up as she approached the Guillenton. She was hated more than any royalties and nobles because she was the main center of attention in every event which did backfire when she was in court. In a way, she was groomed to be queen, but in reality, she was brought in for being a wife and mother, not a people's queen at all. I think Marie had more pride as she viewed herself as still a queen and not abdicated like other queens did before. In her mind, she doesn't view Revpoultion as much of a change because she still thinks she is the queen despite the people's republican denounced monarchy. NOW that is a true queen who faced her death as it was a relief that her suffering ends.
Yes. I bet that's because Ridley Scott doesn't know anyone else who sings French songs. The same reason why he picked a Rameau concerto IN PIANO, when harpsichors were used during this period.
@@davidbastardo4154 Just to show how good the attention to detail was in the 1970 film "Waterloo" when Napoleon returns from Elba a crowd greets him singing "Ca Ira!", NOT Edith Piaf!
Marie (and everyone else during the reign of terror) really dont know how lucky they were that the guillotine was invented that year. This scene plays out a lot different with Jack ketch as the headsman biffing it 4 times or the breaking wheel which france was fond of before this.
The True Song by Queen "Killer Queen". Freddie says "She keeps her Moët et Chandon In her pretty cabinet "Let them eat cake, " she says Just like Marie Antoinette A built-in remedy".
It’s sad because Marie, cloistered away from Paris didn’t really know the extent to how bad things were and wasn’t given much chance to fix things. This shouldn’t have happened to her to be honest. France’s last and most famous Queen.
The aristocrat class not just in France, but since the day of the Roman empire had sucked the wealth out of the more industrial middle classes for at this time at least 2500 years. She was a victim. But she had to go for political reasons. In the same war the Tsar’s family where viped out
She wasn't the last queen. We still had 3 other monarchs after the execution of Louis XVI in different modalities of monarchy. His brothers Louis XVIII and Charles X. And one last before Napoleon with a far cousin Louis-Phillipe d'Orlean. All of them were married and had children. For yhe record, if he wasn't convicted for treason over the fact he plotted to get Marie-Antoinette's Austrian's family help to defeat the revolution (and murder his people) the military way. None of them would've been executed. She is, just a much responsible as him in this matter as she was proven to actively help her husband in that plan. Hence why she also got executed. For "treason" NOT because we wanted to end monarchy. This is a myth. The Republic wanted a parliement, just like Great-Britain.
This is an inaccurate depiction of. They shaved her head before execution. Also she was only able to wear a thin chemise. From the accounts I have read she was very quiet and humble.
Marie Antoinette was seated backward with her hands already tied when she rode in the tumbril that took her to her execution. Her hair had already been out off and she was wearing a cap.
Mega. Then why’d you watch it? It is sick whining people such as yourself who give these historical war movies that have a slight of inaccuracies negative reviews that end up making these kinds of films not do well at the box office all because whiners like yourself are b’tching. Go watch a documentary or something if you’re gonna whine about lack of accuracy. Personally I thought it was a good movie I saw it yesterday I don’t know what the problem is
During the be centennial of the revolution Margaret Thatcher was A’s interviewed in Paris by French journalists. She gave a brilliant comparison between Britain and the French. She called the revolution a terrible barbaric act . The next day she was boo”ed at the ceremonies by the French mob. That ladies and gentlemen was one of her finest moments. To be heckled by the French mob is a true sign of dignity and righteousness. Revolting A truly apt word to describe the whole thing.
The sad part of all of this is nobody talks about Marie Antoinettes and Louise predecessor as especially Louise father he didn’t even raise Louis. He was busy chasing skirts and paying for Madame dubarry clothes and mistress, after mistress after mistress, but nobody wants to talk about that Marie-Antoinette was nothing but a scapegoat for what was really going on in France was just jealousy. They did Marie-Antoinette, the same way they did Mata Hari it’s always the poor against the rich, and the poor, thinking they’re right because they’re poor.
It infuriates me how historically inaccurate this is 1. Marie's hair was cut before exiting her jail cell 2. She was sitting in the open carriage with her hands already tied behind her back 3. She didnt walk towards the guillotine she walked up the stairs while also accidentally stepping on the executioner's foot and saying "pardon me sir, I didn't mean to" And 4. She wore a plain white dress with a white cap to her excecution
The French Revolution bloomed on blood. Everyone was executed indiscriminately. She, like thousands of others, was a part of this sick show. La fin and c'est la vie
Marie wanted to wear black dress, but they denied it and instead a plain white dress for her because she was widowed. Her hair was cut short She stepped on the executioner's foot, and she said sorry And also, why doesn't the executioner look like Sanson?
It is now 16 or 17 years since I saw the queen of France, then the dauphiness, at Versailles. And surely never lighted on this orb, which she hardly seemed to touch, a more delightful vision. I saw her just above the horizon, decorating and cheering the elevated sphere she had just begun to move in, glittering like the morning star full of life and splendour and joy. What a revolution and what a heart must I have, to contemplate without emotion that elevation and that fall! Little did I dream, when she added titles of veneration to those of enthusiastic, distant, respectful love, that she should ever be obliged to carry the sharp antidote against disgrace concealed in that bosom. Little did I dream that I should have lived to see such disasters fallen upon her, in a nation of gallant men, in a nation of men of honour, and of cavaliers! I thought 10,000 swords must have leaped from their scabbards, to avenge even a look that threatened her with insult. But the age of chivalry is gone. That of sophisters, economists, and calculators has succeeded, and the glory of Europe is extinguished forever. Never, never more, shall we behold that generous loyalty to rank and sex, that proud submission, that dignified obedience, that subordination of the heart, which kept alive, even in servitude itself, the spirit of an exalted freedom! The unbought grace of life, the cheap defence of nations, the nurse of manly sentiment and heroic enterprise is gone. It is gone, that sensibility of principle, that chastity of honour, which felt a stain like a wound, which inspired courage whilst it mitigated ferocity, which ennobled whatever it touched, and under which vice itself lost half its evil, by losing all its grossness.
White dress white cap with black ribbon and hair cut short....hate inaccurate films....if you're going to do it do it right....plus she was tied to a plank....
OK, this is a movie and not a documentary, so history has to be embellished and sensationalized for return on investment and entertainment. I suppose the flowing white hair that was once blond creates a feeling of "je ne sais quoi". How Marie Antoinette actually appeared as evidenced by the artist Jacques-Louis David's sketch or that she was dressed in white as described by Rosalie Lamorlière, her servant at the Conciergerie, would be less theatrical. BTW one of the shoes that she wore that fateful day is in the Musée des Beaux-Arts in Caen.
I like Marie Antoinette she was like a queen believe it or not I mean she did a lot for the poor most people don’t even talk about the things she did for the poor they talk about all of her spending not the fact that she had three children adopted six one of her children was black
When i go to the Theater with My Friends who doesnt have Knowledge about this Subject and im the Only one in the Group who learning about History, They asking me who get Beheaded in this scene, I HAVE NO IDEAS at that times, I think that was Marie but her Attitude is Completely Different, and im just Say this is Charlotte because i can’t recognize her, and they just Silenced without asking anything GOD that was embrassing
Why the hell he didn't get an actual historian to help with this movie I have no idea. It had so much potential, but in the end it was just so bloody awful. Its an absolute shame.
![CAMPปลิ้น | EP.79[1/2] แก๊งไทบ้านพาบุกเมืองบั้งไฟโก้ ยโสธรรรร!!!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ldr3_fvTEXk/mqdefault.jpg)
![[ไฮไลต์] แบดมินตันชาย SHI Yu Qi (จีน) vs วิว กุลวุฒิ (ไทย) รอบ 8 คน | โอลิมปิก 2024](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/f7z7taforOM/mqdefault.jpg)
How historical inaccurate do you wanna be?
The Movie: Yes!
Why is it inaccurate
@@useruseruser9152 Preparing for her execution, she had to change clothes in front of her guards. She wanted to wear a black dress but was forced to wear a plain white dress, white being the colour worn by widowed queens of France. Her hair was shorn, her hands bound painfully behind her back and she was put on a rope leash. Unlike her husband, who had been taken to his execution in a carriage (carrosse), she had to sit in an open cart (charrette) for the hour it took to convey her from the Conciergerie via the rue Saint-Honoré thoroughfare to reach the guillotine erected in the Place de la Révolution, the present-day Place de la Concorde.[208] She maintained her composure, despite the insults of the jeering crowd. A constitutional priest was assigned to hear her final confession. He sat by her in the cart, but she ignored him all the way to the scaffold as he had pledged his allegiance to the republic.[209]
Marie Antoinette was executed by beheading by guillotine at 12:15p.m. on 16 October 1793.[210][211] Her last words are recorded as, "Pardonnez-moi, monsieur. Je ne l'ai pas fait exprès" or "Pardon me, sir, I did not do it on purpose", after accidentally stepping on her executioner's shoe.[212] Marie Tussaud was employed to make a death mask of her head.[213] Her body was thrown into an unmarked grave in the Madeleine cemetery, located close by in rue d'Anjou. Because its capacity was exhausted the cemetery was closed the following year, on 25 March 1794.[214]
@@useruseruser9152they wouldn’t throw food at Marie cause they were poor
@@useruseruser9152they also cut her hair off before her excution
@@useruseruser9152 she was wearing a plain white dress and accidentally tripped on her executioner's foot and said "pardon me sir, i did not do it on purpose"
Very inaccurate, Marie wasn't given any dignity when she was executed, her hair was cut short and she was tied up and wore a plain white dress, she tripped on her way to the guillotine and apologised to the executioner
Also, she was made to ride a slow horse cart through the street right up to the guillotine.
exactly
Why ? 😒
@@joyunicycle And they took the long route, and went down the creakiest bumpiest streets, just to further her humiliation.
I'm thinking 🤔 you guys are making this s**t up you couldn't know unless you were there
There was food shortage, so why were they throwing food at her
Hatred makes you do things you wouldn't normally do
It was rotten food most likely
Might've been moldy food
There are detailed accounts of the event and there was no mention that this occurred. It's possible but fairly unlikely. The guilliotine is quite incorrect here also. It wasn't nearly this tall. Less than ten feet high. There would also have been a board used. No one was made to kneel. That would have been fairly cumbersome and impractical.
It was rotten foot
Her appearance and attitude in this are fictional. She wanted to wear a black dress but this was denied, she had to wear a plain white dress as this was for widowed queens of france. Her hair was shorn and her hands were tied painfully behind her back, she was also put on a leash of rope like a dog and transported to the guillotine on an open cart. To show what a beautiful and wrongfully accused lady she actually was she said this to the executioner ' pardon me sir i did not do it on purpose' after accidentally stepping on his shoe. 😢
Viva la Vida🇫🇷✝️
I feel bad for her
@@niiodoi3981 but marie antoinette was still the queen of france. she failed her country and had everyone miserable while she lived in the best conditions.
@@laggychezburger she was a woman with very little say on the political affairs and war involvement, even as a queen. She gave to charity all the time, adopted quite a few children, tried to simplify the fashions of court (which would backfire terribly), she was always going to be hated being Austrian, the necklace scandal on top of the war losses in USA just created a doom spiral for the royal family. She was doomed to fail
Also, she was tied to a pice of wood and lied, and not on her knees, thus was easy to remove the body headless.
I have no idea what Scott was thinking with some of his decisions.
I bet he was thinking in cinematic language rather than writing a history book
@@joserodrr and that is why he fails.
we let the English make a historical movie about the French. what did you expect
@@Aestareth_ that mini series about Napoleon was the best one I’ve ever seen.
The same thing he did when he shitted on the Alien franchise
The son of the executioner documented the last journey of Marie Antoinette.. When he was sent to collect her, she was sitting slumped in a chair with her head resting against the wall. The room she was in was called the death room, as it was the last place prisoners stayed before execution. She was being comforted by the prison guards daughter, who was in tears and embracing Marie.
When Marie was led out, she saw the open cart, and was distraught at the sight of it, as she expected (like her husband was) to be taken to the scaffold in a closed carriage. She was then shackled to the cart bench and wheeled out of the gates. A mob had gathered just outside the gates, they immediately attacked and mauled at the cart, one of the men who yelled at her was one of the guards who was meant to be protecting her, he was quickly grounded by the other guards. The streets were so narrow, that the cart had to stop several times to clear the people out of the way.
At this stage, they really didn't see her as human at all. Only the priest next to her helped her keep her composure. When she stepped of the cart, she showed slight fear at the sight of the guillotine, she was weak, but climbed the scaffold slowly but with heavy steps, she lost her shoe on the way up, as she stepped on the executioners foot, and said Pardon me, i didn't do it on purpose. These were her last words.
Her hair is too unruly for one thing :P anyone who goes to the guillotine is groomed first so the hair doesn't get caught in the pillory.
She hair was shorn off before her execution
Jesus is not God, he never said that in the bible
Her hair was shorn off, she wore a plain white dress (she had requested a black dress), and her hands were painfully tied behind her back before she left the prison.
Also, she was made to ride a slow cart through the entire city so that everybody could jeer and insult her and she could be impatient for death, but she held her head high and was brave to the end.
@@rimhamdan7259Indeed he did.
Your biblical illiteracy is showing 😉
Didnt she say pardon me sir before the execution
she did
No.
Yes she did
Stepping on executioner's foot
@@ksaveriuszyes
In real life the blade did not fall while attached to a rope. A rope could slow down the blade and make things rather messy. So the blade had a freefall.
Totally correct.
Yup. Scott used to care about little details like that, I guess he's gotten old.
I don't think that was possible at the time. the berger guillotine with this function was introduced in 1872.
@@Linchpin_TF No, the original revolutionary guillotines didn't have a fixed rope attached. They had a horizontal bar bolted on to the front of the sledge, and a lever on the frame held it up from the bottom. When they pulled the cord, the lever dropped down and the blade fell. The rope had a hook that would pull the sledge back up but then they unhooked it. Leaving it attached meant the danger of the rope getting twisted or bound up in the pulleys and slowing or stopping the blade as it fell.
Movies like these are where history myths come from.
Simulacra and simulation. That is the mix of fiction and mass media distortions makes it impossible to know what history was unless one is a historian. Also the copy of fiction, makes a illusion that the first fiction was not a fiction but facts.
Indeed.
There is a famous video of a helicopter falling into the Chernobyl nuclear reactor after clipping some steel cables hanging down from a crane. Someone posted it on Twitter a while back and despite the video showing that the helicopter fell as result of it hitting the steel cables hanging from a crane, there was a guy in the replies adamant that it fell for a different reason and citing the HBO drama series as his evidence.
According to him (this is a quote):
"I actually do believe you're fucking with me. They are flying RIGHT OVER it, while it's still burning and releasing 20,000 roentgens per hour. The radiation fried the helicopter circuits and killed everyone on board. That's why it crashed."
He chose to take the impression he was left with by an HBO TV drama series over factual documentary video PROOF. And he was getting a lot more likes for that tweet than the people arguing against it... People are braindead.
@@paulos9900 the uneducated and the self obsessed are easy to manipulate, because the education system has failed them.
The modern culture also give « likes», to the information that is most entertaining, simplistic ( instead of hyper complex with a mix of causes, that leads to effects).
They want it fast and fun as on TIKTOK. But are unable to se the long term effects of their « junk information» addiction.
It’s realy sad. And scary 😳🥶
Dont see anyone commented on the fact Napoleon wasnt even at her execution. He was busy commanding the french forces in Toulon. I truly wanted to like this movie and in its own way it gives some neat vibes
Marie Antoinette's hair actually did turn white, due to the stress of her confinement and grief over the loss of her children. It's a real medical condition (look-up "canities"). The artist Jacques Louis David, an eyewitness, did a famous sketch of her, as she was being led to the guillotine. As she passed slowly down the street, people shouted insults and spit in their hands, and threw the globs at the woman who had been Queen. The French Revolution is too often romanticized. In truth, it was marked by horrifying cruelties. And savage mob violence. All done in the deceptively noble goal of "Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity".
Yes just ask Madame de Lamballe, she received the worst of it. Poor woman.
Ironically, they overthrew a monarchy so that soon another was established with Napoleon.
So you want them back?
The revolutionaries just wanted blood shed, and Marie was just a scapegoat. In fact she didn’t even say let them eat cake. That was penned way before the many accusations.
Even though she never that didnt change the fact that she was still out of touch of reality due to her lavish spendings despite the economic crisis that France was facing at that time
@@brandonelijahcasquejo2888 The public never liked her so she had no hope in the matter.
@@Satanna.avemaria not to mention it further made her unpopular and the rest of the royal family due to the lavish spendings and unfair tax quota systems that crippled the economy
The French where nut cases
@brandonelijahcasquejo2888 It's the fact that I KNOW yall would spend money out the wazoo, but seeing its someone else, they get killed for it. What a terrible excuse to kill someone.
Inaccurate as can be. The Queen's hair was trimmed short and she wore a white cap festooned with lace as it was customary.
I really need the book title right now. I really curious about her journey.
The guillotine exectuion is shown completely wrong!
Who cares
@@gatorade1968 People who care about authenticity in a history movie.
Maybe you should go back to watch the Avengers.
@@LosfeldRL imagine how naive and stupid someone has to be, to go into a Hollywood film and expect accuracy. You are the fool.
@@gatorade1968 the movie literally about history is historically innacurate. yeah, who cares about that
@@Zelurpio you shouldn’t look to Hollywood films made for the mass audiences to be 100% accurate, don’t be a fool
If you think this horrible you clearly havent read what happened to her son which was just a little boy
Or her friend The Duchess De Lambelle who was literally beaten and stabbed to death by the Parisian mob .
Or Axel Fesen her lover who was beaten to death by a mob
You use morden standards to jugde the people who lived in 18th century, who suffered the farmine, who had to work alllife for survival. Their outtrage were not transient...
@@Herman-ql4hlno no the shit they were doing was considered horrific at the time as well
French revolution and daesh use the same methods
Marie Antoinette was 12 yrs younger than the actress portraying her in the movie. She was 37 yrs old. Also as pointed out in the comments below, she was mistreated and humiliated on her route to the Guillotine.
Beheading is such a brutal way to die, your last thought is of your soul being separated from your body.
She seemed ready, having endured nearly two excruciating years in prison. The conditions were more than unbearable; her cell was tiny and filthy, covered in grime, and the drinking water was contaminated. Her only wish was to be reunited with her husband. She lived under constant surveillance by guards, her every action monitored without any privacy. Even basic tasks like changing and bathing had to be done in full view of the guards. They often blew smoke in her face and insulted her family.
She also had to witness the horrifying sight of her dear friend, the generous and deeply charitable Princess of Lamballe, whose severed head was paraded beneath her prison cell. The princess had been brutally killed by a mob simply because of her association with the queen. In 1793, when her children were abducted and given to the revolutionaries, she spent hours trying to catch a glimpse of her son. Within a short time, he was manipulated into turning against her, accusing his own mother falsely.
She was eventually transferred to the Conciergerie, where all her ties to the outside world were severed. During her trial, she faced numerous unfounded accusations, the most heinous being the false claim that she had committed incest with her 8-year-old son. When the verdict of her execution was announced, she was made to wear a simple white dress, her hair was cut short, her hands were painfully tied behind her back, and she was led on a rope leash. Unlike her husband, who was taken to his execution in a carriage, she had to endure an hour-long journey from the Conciergerie to the guillotine in an open cart. After her execution, her body was callously thrown into an unmarked grave... Yet, she maintained remarkable courage and dignity to the very end.
Imagine being just 14 years old, leaving your family to marry a stranger in a foreign land. A few years later, you're expected to lead and reform an entire nation burdened by centuries of corruption, all while under pressure to produce an heir to the throne. On top of these challenges, she faced prejudice for her Austrian heritage and was unjustly made a scapegoat. Far from being disconnected from reality, she was much like the late Princess Diana. Growing up, she often visited farmer cottages to offer soup and bread to impoverished families. In France, she adopted many orphans and provided them with an education etc. She also became a patron of the Maison Philanthropique, aiding the poor and disabled. Moreover, she even built homes for unwed or widowed mothers.
She also assisted during times of drought and often contributed her own money to help those in need. Disliking the lavishness of court life, she was given the Trianon retreat, where she preferred a simpler life surrounded by family and friends. She even made the "chemise à la reine" popular as a way to liberate herself from the constraints of formal court garb... and when she attempted to encourage the court to adopt this humbler lifestyle, she faced criticism and ridicule. She never wanted to be the dauphine, let alone the queen. Her mother had initially seen her as a mere decorative figure at the Viennese court, but fate clearly had other plans for her.
her closest friends were incredibly charitable too! ^
This scene was completely inaccurate anyway.
@@MargueriteFrancoisedeBuffonvielen Dank, das ist ein wirklich sehr interessanter Kommentar. Die tragische Geschichte von Marie Antoinette geht mir sehr nahe und ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass sie nur dekadent und egozentrisch war. Das Volk braucht immer einen Sündenbock, so war es schon immer 😢ich hoffe, sie kann in Frieden ruhen
No it isn’t. It’s actually a very good way to die because it’s very fast and very exact.
When I first say this. Marie Antoinette didn't show much expression. She just silent and held her head up as she approached the Guillenton. She was hated more than any royalties and nobles because she was the main center of attention in every event which did backfire when she was in court.
In a way, she was groomed to be queen, but in reality, she was brought in for being a wife and mother, not a people's queen at all.
I think Marie had more pride as she viewed herself as still a queen and not abdicated like other queens did before. In her mind, she doesn't view Revpoultion as much of a change because she still thinks she is the queen despite the people's republican denounced monarchy.
NOW that is a true queen who faced her death as it was a relief that her suffering ends.
The French revolutionary’s where nothing but terrorist
For all you non French people The song is called "Ça Ira !"
This one is performed by Edith Piaf
I didn't know Edith Piaf was around in 1793. Remarkable woman! 🤣
Yes. I bet that's because Ridley Scott doesn't know anyone else who sings French songs. The same reason why he picked a Rameau concerto IN PIANO, when harpsichors were used during this period.
@@davidbastardo4154 Just to show how good the attention to detail was in the 1970 film "Waterloo" when Napoleon returns from Elba a crowd greets him singing "Ca Ira!", NOT Edith Piaf!
Ah yes Edith Piaf was a time traveler
@@aby110 An amazing woman, in more ways than one!
Marie (and everyone else during the reign of terror) really dont know how lucky they were that the guillotine was invented that year. This scene plays out a lot different with Jack ketch as the headsman biffing it 4 times or the breaking wheel which france was fond of before this.
Not only historically inaccurate, but not something I welcomed being reminded of during the opening ceremony of the 2024 Paris Olympic Games
The True Song by Queen "Killer Queen". Freddie says
"She keeps her Moët et Chandon
In her pretty cabinet
"Let them eat cake, " she says
Just like Marie Antoinette
A built-in remedy".
They should’ve used that song for this scene instead
It’s sad because Marie, cloistered away from Paris didn’t really know the extent to how bad things were and wasn’t given much chance to fix things. This shouldn’t have happened to her to be honest. France’s last and most famous Queen.
suck-up
They all had it coming
Cry harder, they all had it coming
The aristocrat class not just in France, but since the day of the Roman empire had sucked the wealth out of the more industrial middle classes for at this time at least 2500 years.
She was a victim. But she had to go for political reasons. In the same war the Tsar’s family where viped out
She wasn't the last queen.
We still had 3 other monarchs after the execution of Louis XVI in different modalities of monarchy.
His brothers Louis XVIII and Charles X. And one last before Napoleon with a far cousin Louis-Phillipe d'Orlean.
All of them were married and had children.
For yhe record, if he wasn't convicted for treason over the fact he plotted to get Marie-Antoinette's Austrian's family help to defeat the revolution (and murder his people) the military way. None of them would've been executed.
She is, just a much responsible as him in this matter as she was proven to actively help her husband in that plan.
Hence why she also got executed.
For "treason" NOT because we wanted to end monarchy. This is a myth. The Republic wanted a parliement, just like Great-Britain.
Meanwhile Arno is jumping in the buildings rooftops
Cringe.
@@davidbastardo4154 my coment or this show?
@@romanromis7180assassino
@@romanromis7180both
A lot of people followed her.
Marie wore a white dress made of muslin and had her hair cut super short. As a history nerd, this scene irritates me due to inaccuracies.
A lot was wrong in this scene
Las películas jamás van a ser 100% precisas en temas historicos. Para eso están los libros o los documentales.
This is an inaccurate depiction of. They shaved her head before execution. Also she was only able to wear a thin chemise. From the accounts I have read she was very quiet and humble.
Not shaved
Marie Antoinette was seated backward with her hands already tied when she rode in the tumbril that took her to her execution. Her hair had already been out off and she was wearing a cap.
1:32 💀
Geez. After so many movies showing the event in a soft way, I didn't expect this to be this graphic
and VERY innaccurate
Nowhere to go but down from here. And this is during the opening credits.
All wrong with Ridley Scott. His historical movies are 10% accurate + 90% fiction.
And very much just bad movies
Even the guillotine was wrong lol
I can see the guy from history buffs picking this scene apart.
They're starving but throwing food on her?
Man this movie was terrible
I fell asleep halfway through
Mega. Then why’d you watch it? It is sick whining people such as yourself who give these historical war movies that have a slight of inaccuracies negative reviews that end up making these kinds of films not do well at the box office all because whiners like yourself are b’tching. Go watch a documentary or something if you’re gonna whine about lack of accuracy. Personally I thought it was a good movie I saw it yesterday I don’t know what the problem is
@@arlonfoster9997 I wanted it to be good
@@MegaSheen15 okay? What was so wrong then?
@@arlonfoster9997 The writing, the plot structure, the editing, and the horrible casting
beautiful actress
During the be centennial of the revolution Margaret Thatcher was A’s interviewed in Paris by French journalists.
She gave a brilliant comparison between Britain and the French.
She called the revolution a terrible barbaric act .
The next day she was boo”ed at the ceremonies by the French mob.
That ladies and gentlemen was one of her finest moments.
To be heckled by the French mob is a true sign of dignity and righteousness.
Revolting
A truly apt word to describe the whole thing.
Napoleon was not present at thr execution of Marie Antoniette, he was in Toulose
Back then in 1793/94 there was alot of head raising to the people. Danton on April 5th 1794. Told Sanson to showeth my head to the people. He did.
The sad part of all of this is nobody talks about Marie Antoinettes and Louise predecessor as especially Louise father he didn’t even raise Louis. He was busy chasing skirts and paying for Madame dubarry clothes and mistress, after mistress after mistress, but nobody wants to talk about that Marie-Antoinette was nothing but a scapegoat for what was really going on in France was just jealousy. They did Marie-Antoinette, the same way they did Mata Hari it’s always the poor against the rich, and the poor, thinking they’re right because they’re poor.
I didn't know Edith Piaf witnessed the execution of Marie Antionette. You learn something new every day.
😄
It infuriates me how historically inaccurate this is
1. Marie's hair was cut before exiting her jail cell
2. She was sitting in the open carriage with her hands already tied behind her back
3. She didnt walk towards the guillotine she walked up the stairs while also accidentally stepping on the executioner's foot and saying "pardon me sir, I didn't mean to"
And 4. She wore a plain white dress with a white cap to her excecution
Ridley Scott lost his mind whilst making this film it’s so bad !
House of Gucci was worse 😮
Marie-Antoinette was victim of fake news. The affair of the diamond necklace and eat cake quote.
After the Queen was executed, the crowd fell silent
someone got to paid,then just got Marie
My fav movie
A good person can't be executed
Probably marie was just a scapegoat.
The French Revolution bloomed on blood. Everyone was executed indiscriminately. She, like thousands of others, was a part of this sick show. La fin and c'est la vie
Hi!
Where is the tilting bench? The condemned people was not supposed to kneel
Not historically accurate - Marie Antoinette wore a bonnet and her hair was cut short.
The good ol' days
At least "Carry On don't loose your head" was funny!
the toastmaster is good and the competitions are interesting
Ridley, you've broken my heart. You used to be beautiful.
No tears for royalty.
Marie wanted to wear black dress, but they denied it and instead a plain white dress for her because she was widowed.
Her hair was cut short
She stepped on the executioner's foot, and she said sorry
And also, why doesn't the executioner look like Sanson?
At this point the actors will not make it live .
People clearly had too much cake
"Dann sollen sie doch Kuchen essen!"
It is now 16 or 17 years since I saw the queen of France, then the dauphiness, at Versailles. And surely never lighted on this orb, which she hardly seemed to touch, a more delightful vision. I saw her just above the horizon, decorating and cheering the elevated sphere she had just begun to move in, glittering like the morning star full of life and splendour and joy.
What a revolution and what a heart must I have, to contemplate without emotion that elevation and that fall! Little did I dream, when she added titles of veneration to those of enthusiastic, distant, respectful love, that she should ever be obliged to carry the sharp antidote against disgrace concealed in that bosom. Little did I dream that I should have lived to see such disasters fallen upon her, in a nation of gallant men, in a nation of men of honour, and of cavaliers! I thought 10,000 swords must have leaped from their scabbards, to avenge even a look that threatened her with insult.
But the age of chivalry is gone. That of sophisters, economists, and calculators has succeeded, and the glory of Europe is extinguished forever. Never, never more, shall we behold that generous loyalty to rank and sex, that proud submission, that dignified obedience, that subordination of the heart, which kept alive, even in servitude itself, the spirit of an exalted freedom! The unbought grace of life, the cheap defence of nations, the nurse of manly sentiment and heroic enterprise is gone. It is gone, that sensibility of principle, that chastity of honour, which felt a stain like a wound, which inspired courage whilst it mitigated ferocity, which ennobled whatever it touched, and under which vice itself lost half its evil, by losing all its grossness.
The last time this mode of execution took place in France, Star Wars was in theatres.
What song is this
Her hair was cut short and she was dressed in white
I was waiting for helicopters in the movie but none showed up. That’s how historically accurate it was.
White dress white cap with black ribbon and hair cut short....hate inaccurate films....if you're going to do it do it right....plus she was tied to a plank....
Marie Antoinette ❤ Der Mop ging kurze Zeit später selbst diesen Weg.
María Antonieta fue al patíbulo con su melena ya cortada.
Gojira bring me here!!!
OK, this is a movie and not a documentary, so history has to be embellished and sensationalized for return on investment and entertainment. I suppose the flowing white hair that was once blond creates a feeling of "je ne sais quoi". How Marie Antoinette actually appeared as evidenced by the artist Jacques-Louis David's sketch or that she was dressed in white as described by Rosalie Lamorlière, her servant at the Conciergerie, would be less theatrical. BTW one of the shoes that she wore that fateful day is in the Musée des Beaux-Arts in Caen.
What's the song name??????
Didn’t the condemned rush the line to be first while the blade was still sharp?
Twitter mob
Nothing's changed.
The name of this song in French?
Ah! ça ira ça ira ça ira. A classic revolution song
One of her quotes was "Apres nous le deluge" After us the shut she was not wrong
That was Louis XV.
And just like that, the peasants got ahead in the game.
Whats The name Of this Music?
Ah! Ça Ira
Gojira just played their heavy metal version of it at the Olympics and it was epic.
😢
Was the song playing through the video
Yes, bad movie
It's really sad
1:32-1:33 blade drop
I don't think this is how it went but that's just me
I like Marie Antoinette she was like a queen believe it or not I mean she did a lot for the poor most people don’t even talk about the things she did for the poor they talk about all of her spending not the fact that she had three children adopted six one of her children was black
Im glad people are finally coming around to Marie Antionette and seeing her for the wronged woman she was
She betrayed her kingdom ffs. She was not a victim. She and the king tried to escape France and it’s one of the reason they were sentenced to death
I still think she said, but I said cake and ice cream really
Marie Antoinette have 38 yrs old
the song? are the singers the munchkins from wizard of oz? lol
When i go to the Theater with My Friends who doesnt have Knowledge about this Subject and im the Only one in the Group who learning about History, They asking me who get Beheaded in this scene, I HAVE NO IDEAS at that times, I think that was Marie but her Attitude is Completely Different, and im just Say this is Charlotte because i can’t recognize her, and they just Silenced without asking anything
GOD that was embrassing
How ungrateful people can be! You assist them, yet they find joy in your demise.
Come on, make it accurate. Also, they were sending everyone to guillotine at the end.
Why the hell he didn't get an actual historian to help with this movie I have no idea. It had so much potential, but in the end it was just so bloody awful. Its an absolute shame.
The peasants are in line until they aren't.....
Ouch
Marie Antoinette wore a white dress during her execution.
The French were so wild
Nome música?
Ça ira
So inaccurate. Her hair was cut short in her prison before she was taken in the tumbril to the guillotine.