The Eagles have become a DISGRACE (AFL 2023)
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- The Sydney Swans just beat the West Coast Eagles by 171 points in a game of AFL. I have the fun task of reacting to it. Yay.
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I've been a swans fan for almost 20 years and while I was thrilled with the result, I genuinely felt bad watching the game. No one wants to see a club go down like that. Hoping the eagles can turn it around.
Yeah, I’m hoping for the same in regards to the Eagles. It’ll take a bit, but they’ll find a future star with them pretty much locked up to get Harley Reid.
I mean I would love to see Collingwood get a flogging like that tbh 😂 but nah you're right, I'm a freo fan and it's very sad to see how low west coast are at right now.
@@dylansomewhere I'm a Collingwood fan and I'd love to see Freo cop a flogging like that haha.
Speak for yourself champ. The grubs cheated with drugs and won a GF. Wonderful to watch the slaughter. Go Bloods.
@@SilentHotdog28I’m a hawks fan and I’d love to see that too
That was worse than the 186 point belting that Geelong gave to Melbourne in 2011. Geelong that year were one of the best teams ever, they were the only team that year to beat Collingwood (on 3 separate occasions one of which was the Grand Final). Sydney went into this game at 15th. You guys have got Lions at the GABBA in 2 weeks. I feel for you.
First 200 point belting in history
Melbourne were tanking that season. Bloods played in last years GF. Idiot.
I feel lucky we don’t have to play a rampaging Cats at Skilled Stadium, they would score 40 goals against us
I remember when Port went 8 wins and a draw across 2011/12, were the first team Gold Coast beat, sacked our coach and lost our president on the same day. I recall ex CEOs of opposition clubs genuinely questioning if we should keep our AFL playing license, you couldn’t turn on the news without hearing about our future captain and his inevitable move to Geelong. A year later we knocked of Collingwood in an elimination final. Things can turn quickly in the AFL, the comp is better when your Eagles are good.
Firstly, well done for making this video so soon after the game. I couldn't have. As an eagles fan, of course the last 2 seasons have been tough, but this game really hurts. We are still dealing with injuries, but there were enough senior players and talented youngsters on the field to put up a better fight than this. Our club is just not up to AFL standards at the moment and I don't think waiting is going to be enough for the fans, the club or the AFL. I love Simmo and I think he's a great coach. But it's time. He looks defeated and has clearly lost the room. No heart, no passion and just the basic things not happening on the field. I think the club needs a new voice, a new strategy, maybe someone better at coaching the kids and I think Simmo needs to destress and relax for a while.
@justinblacker-quin8066 ...you good man? 👀
@justinblacker-quin8066 No karma. Your a strange fella I’ll give you that much
Next 2 years will be just as tough, but you'll start seeing the kids coming through. But the thrashings will be there especially when the veterans quit.
Getting rid of Simmo will cost us $3m in a payout to him and a soft cap tax probably of over a million. Plus you then have to pay $800k to get someone to come to Perth to coach, unless you convince Jamie Graham. Then you'd probably have another soft salary cap tax. I wonder how much they're getting from their assistant coaches. I think some of them will be sacked at season end. Which will be more costs... plus having to get more guys enticed from over east...
@justinblacker-quin8066Justin, I’m a eagles guy… and that was arguably a free kick (I concede that), but wouldn’t you concede that the pies blew a 5 goal lead from the start? 😂. If you guys kept going in the form you were in you would have had the flag in the bag
I understand it hurts… but one free kick/missed umpire decision can not make up for 120 minutes of play. You guys had 4 quarters to get on top of us but failed… THAT is how the Eagles won the flag…. 😉
As a dees supporter, i know how you feel mate. I remember that loss to Geelong back in 2011, i got absolutely roasted at school on the monday morning.
The dees were irrelevant for 6-7 years straight, but when we finally got that premiership it was the best feeling ever.
Support the boys even more now! We’re on a tough journey and they are living through a nightmare at the moment. We will get through this eventually
💛💙💛💙💛
The boys dont deserve support, they are a bunch of unprofessional quitting flogs who are paid handsomely for that crap yesterday, stop babying them and saying things will get better, thats why nothing changes. Dont turn up, dont buy memberships.
What you must do is get all your friends to buy tickets and give them a standing ovation when they come out this week. Spread the news.
GO THE KANGAROOS we beat Fremantle by one point and west coast by 5 points
@@cruzmoore4548 They're getting Clarkson back soon. I'd like to see Kangaroos pull their weight more. If they're not playing the developing markets then they should work the multicultural areas in Melb harder and bring people to game. North take a lot from the competition and need to grow the game and give some back.
I respect any fan that can take a bettering like that, when the eagles win a flag next it'll be a bloody beauty to watch the humble beginnings and seeing you not give up on your team
you're a star Jesse, a win will come soon...
Thank you for perfectly encapsulating my feelings. That said, I've been living overseas this year, but I am heading home on Friday and am genuinely excited to go watch them play St Kilda next Sunday. Go Eagles!
The Eagles don't have to be this bad to draft Harley Reid.
Not sure they’re actually gonna take him, if you can get 2 or 3 top 10 picks I’d take it
@@lije3931 I don't know how you'd be able to get three top 10 picks. North will have the #2 pick plus another late first round pick (Port's) plus next year's pick, but as a North supporter I wouldn't want to trade away that much draft capital.
As a North Melbourne supporter that was really bad for eagles supporters
They will go out and beat us when we play em mate I just know ir
I feel their pain
Thank god I brought beers before the game
Elijah Hewitt absolutely looked good. One thing I noticed was in the fourth quarter he still looked fresh. I thought Gaff started alright, but it didn't continue.
After a loss like that, wholesale changes have to happen. None of what happened today could possibly be tolerated. Lose by 30 pts? Injuries become a valid reason. Lose by 30 goals? In the highest level of Australian football. Nup. Heads have to roll.
nothing to say absolutely speechless after the performance
I agree with the rot starting around mid 2021. The two Kardinia park losses to Geelong and Sydney are the ones that stand out in my mind. West Coast honestly didn't even seem like that bad of a team back then but they just had this knack of completely lying down and getting absolutely destroyed. I can feel your frustration because it honestly feels like the eagles aren't even that bad even with injuries, they just don't even try to compete. The Collingwood game for the first 3 quarters was a positive and so is Oscar Allen.
Time for WC Eagles to hire Damian Hardwick
That's not feasible. $1.6m to pay out Simmo. Then another $1.2m soft cap tax to AFL. Approx $3m cost. Then you get Hardwick for over $1m... he'd want his own coaches which would be expensive. We'd pay more than the true salary to get them across. We'd blow millions and end up having to pay AFL big amounts.
If the season stopped now GWS would have picks 6,7(Himmelberg leaves) and 9, trade 1 for picks 6,7,9 is exactly what the draft hand the eagles need, sure Reid may be a gun but with where the Eagles are at 3 bites at the cherry to find A grade talent over 1 suposed superstar would be the way to go.
Agree, I was on board with the crows offering 3 first round picks for Horne Francis but we ended up with 3 great players who are the core to us moving up the ladder in Dawson, Rachelle and Rankine
Freo has a cheeky smile 💜
What's even scarier is the fact that in this game, yes you are still historically thunderfucked with injuries but still you had names such as Yeo, Shuey, Gaff, Sheed, Barrass, Darling, Allen, Petrucelle, SPS, Duggan, Jayden Hunt out there. Established names and still 15th nabbed the equal 4th biggest win in V/AFL history.
I genuinely feel awful for the youngsters trying their damndest at this club only to see that the best is still a 12 goal loss and when the people you're supposed to look up to give up then you're on the wrong end of scoring records
Hey mate. Season rewind sounds great. Player profiles from the history of the club could be cool too
You made a good point at the end of the video about these guys playing for their career's. I mean seriously, with some of the efforts they may not get another chance, genuinely looking at losing out on years of AFL contracts if things don't improve QUICKLY.
Our drafting strategies have been in place for a number of years going for lots of kids with early picks. As the guys in the early to mid 20s showed they weren't good enough they were moved aside and early draft picks were chosen. Its unfortunate but we put time into guys like Nelson Ainsworth Langdon Brayshaw Venables Brander Reid Cameron Watson Smith AhChee Partington Murtimer Karpanny Naish Dixon etc... But all are gone. We didn't roll the dice and kept persevering with the same guys. Then guys like O'Neill Winder Trew don't appear up to it and all alternate as squad players and rookies. That's why we have only the old and the kids. Sure we finished near the top, but recruiting was poor in the number of players chosen and the lack of faith in rolling the dice and going for later draft picks. Fact is that this year you'll have more guys in the early mid 20s dumped. You have to as they aren't up to it. They may as well give game to journeymen from other clubs.
Dev Robertson, Jackson Prior and Jimmy Tunstill all from brisbane Lions are from WA and would be walk up starters to the current eagles outfit. All aged 19-21.Astounded that eagles didn't make a play for Robertson and prior last year.
Swans supporter here. I was wrapped for our win but at the same time, felt genuinely bad for the Eagles. The history between these two clubs is rich and rewarding for both and while I am pissed that we lost the 2006 GF by one point to a team half full of drug fuelled cheats, the current squad are not that.....but most of all, I feel for the coach, who has a bunch of softies who don't seem to be playing for him at all.
My thoughts on the 5 biggest issues West Coast face. (from a post I made on reddit)
Warning it is very long
1.Success and lack of development for players during successful years
The list demographic of West Coast has been heavily affected, specifically the players aged 22-26 as during success these players where not exposed to games of AFL and could not develop or learn the speed and over all difference from WAFL to AFL. Due to the success West Coast has also not had access to much high end draft picks and has not been able to obtain high potential players.
2. Rewarding veteran players
West coast has been very supportive of their veteran players awarding them with ridiculously large contracts while they are past their best. A good example is Nic Nat who not playing all year and is taking a large sum of cash this year and next year. Combined with age and his long injury list Nic Nat should never have been offered a 2 year contract.
3. The mental health of the club and supporters
Throughout the year there has been a heavy emphasis on mental health within the club as the constant heavy losses have affected players mentally and even reportedly fans being given a high risk of depression. Why would younger players stay when they are constantly battered mentally by the poor efforts of the club while good players like Oscar Allen, Tim Kelly and Tom Barrass are not able to reach their potential and their talents are being wasted. Unsurprisingly the top players at west coast have been targeted by rival clubs who are willing to pay a high price for their service and specifically Tom Barrass who has been rumoured to be constantly approached by Sydney.
4. The Injury Crisis and Covid
The injury crisis at west coast has been well documented as the onslaught of constant injuries and long term injuries has effected players of all ages. The amount of soft tissue injuries the players get is too frequent and take too many weeks to heal from. Once players get soft tissue injuries they become more prone to getting them again and being out for longer periods. With the limited amount of players available the young players who need to develop cannot because they are either put into an AFL game too early or can’t perform in a WAFL side that is constantly destroyed by similar margins as the AFL side.
5. The lack of high end draft picks
Due to the success West Coast has sustained over many years including their premiership high draft picks and high potential prospects have been limited. While players like Oscar Allen and Liam Ryan where taken during this period higher picks like Jarrod Brander have not turned into what they could of been.
I agree with you, I just watched the nba draft, and they talked about assets, not people. It sounds bad to use this with people but sell high buy low. WC held on to declining assets too long and couldn't give away some of their vets right now.
Geelong took you to the cleaners for Tim Kelly - you handed them a flag and hobbled your club
Effort is a non-negotiable in professional sport.
Watching this game mostly just made me feel sorry for the Eagles fans. Part of me loves watching my club get a belting win, of course, but another part mourns the state of the Great Rivalry. Crazy to remember how these two clubs were soaring high together not _that_ long ago, 6 games in a row including 2 GFs decided by a total of 13 points... I miss those amazing nail-biting finishes where you genuinely didn't know who was going to win until the siren went. Honestly more than anything it feels like the Eagles need to rediscover their pride, there's no shortage of talent in that team but the effort is just woeful. It never used to be in their nature to just give up like that, no matter how far behind they were. Don't think it's the coach's fault, it's the whole culture of the club that needs to change.
who would win , 2011 demons or this eagles side?
From a North follower, we are still down for now and we may not win a game again this season, but watch out next year as we played the kids like WC are doing right now and it will turn quicker than you think. Good luck. PS: swap pick 2 and another first rounder for pick 1 ????
I need to stop going into these games optimistic. ‘We’re coming off the bye, we get some cattle back, we’re fresh and Re-energised. Sydney are struggling let’s go’. I have no words, this is just idk, it sucks
We may beat North but only if our veterans are back and in form. But having said that, our kids and the guys that have carried the team most of the year will be shot by then.
God have mercy on us All
ive been really happy with the way we have drafted over the last two years, consistently picking players with pace. i think that suggests we are moving towards a high pressure and fast attacking game style similar to that of adelaide and collingwood.
a couple more solid drafts and before we know it our injury prone veterans on substantial cash will be off the books and we can go hard at free agency, call me crazy but im very optimistic we challenge for finals in 2026
what the quality of our list could look like by then...
allen ✅kelly ✅ barrass ✅ duggan ✅ ryan✅
b. williams ⏰ ginbey ⏰ hewett ⏰long⏰ waterman ⏰ jones⏰ cole ⏰
Harley Reid or Three First rounders (Duursma? Curtain?Caddy? Moir? Tholstrup? Watson? Sanders? etc. ⏰
hough 🤔 bazzo🤔 chesser🤔 barnett 🤔 maric 🤔 culley 🤔
burgiel🤷♂ h. edwards 🤷♂ l. edwards 🤷♂ dewar 🤷♂
not to mention any trades, free agents or draft picks beyond this season: English? Georgiadies? Robertson? First round picks in 2024/5 etc.
thoughts?
Our last two drafts have been very good - Agreed. Yes pace has been targeted and we got our young ruckman. We haven't got sucked in getting older guys in. I think the temptation will be there to recruit a tough committed footballer that is a good leader on the track. Especially if he is about mid 20s. We need some of those types of guys to take over from the veterans as they retire.
Finals at the earliest will be 2027 challenging. In 2027 probably 18 of the starting 23 will be under 22. So too young.
@@BDub2024 didnt factor in our age demographic at the time, i think youre right however our spine will be relatively mature especially if we pick up a couple free agents next year and beyond... regardless im hoping that after the 2026 draft we have most if not all of our players that take us to our next grand final tilt
@@KK-py1lf We will be too young still in 2026. Barrass and McGov will be well over 30 by then. Yeo Sheed and Kelly will be at the point of retiring. Shuey Hurn would have gone. I think we need to get some experienced guys around 26 that work really hard on the track and on ground. They can help provide the grit and challenge players. Hopefully we can get most for nothing. We've got a hard nut in Clark but he's just not getting the ball enough and may have to end up being delisted. Look I'm positive but it will take until 2027 until we start getting closer to finals.
Culley is absolutely an AFL footballer and we need to lock him up quick smart.
Chesser I don’t know, but given the pick equity he needs to keep playing
Duggan, I just don’t get the ✅. He isn’t good. And disposal is so poor. His ✅ seems to have been grandfathered in from 5 years ago
Now here is a question for Mr True Footy. Who are the guys not putting in consistently for the contested ball. We've got about 14 midfielder / flankers in the team. So we need to know who just doesn't put in consistently. I also would like some analysis done for matches we've been thumped this year. What players have consistently underperformed in these matches? I reckon that is a sign of resilience and mental strength - a key requirement for a footballer. There are about 5 massive losses this year, so it shouldn't be too difficult to see that "these guys play well when we're competitive, but the moment we're getting thrashed they drop away". I reckon in a couple of the matches when we went in with drama (massive injury list before a match like Adelaide) that some guys didn't even have the resilience to start the match in any form. That's what I really want to know Mr Footy. Who isn't winning the contested ball and making the effort. Then who always performs badly when we lose. I have some ideas but would be interested to hear your view.
As a eagles fan the only distraction I have at the moment is the ashes (as I’m a cricket nut also). I’m counting down the weeks before this torture ends, 9 games to go before end of season. I want these 2 and a bit months to fly by quickly cause this is brutal…
It’s so bad at the moment that only the most fanatical of Eagle-hating dockers fans have the heart to harshly sledge us at the moment… most have backed off out of conscience (which has moved me I gotta say). Dockers fans were giving it to us after the Hawthorn Tassie debacle, but now they have showed a lot of class… I truly appreciate that 👍. I actually stuck up for dockers fans after their GWS loss last week (because they have showed me sympathy, so I wanted to return the favour… I’ve matured)
Having said that… I think every Eagle ex-premiership player is going to show up at the doorstep after this pitiful display… it may be behind the scenes but they are going to be livid by seeing this legacy of the Eagles being tarnished. Every ex premiership-player in 92, 94, 06, 18 is going to unleash rage on the club.
We also need to call out our eternal optimists fan as well (delusional optimists in my opinion). I’m a optimist but realist also… the eternal guys cannot call it as it is and show no tough love at all (and it pisses me off). They are like “hey boys… if you get beaten by 200 points… we will all show up next week and never say anything negative… as long as we try!!! That’s all that matters!!”.
To be honest I would rather hear “hey Eagles… if you don’t put your heart and soul into every contest, and if you don’t restore pride into the Eagles name… we’re not showing up next week… sorry, but your embarrassing us as a franchise that we hold dear, and your trashing everything that we stand for… get your shit together”
I love the patience and positivity many of us Eagles fans have… but it’s got to the point where no one is drawing a line in the sand… and the eternal delusional optimists are doing a disservice to the club. Sorry… but it has to be said.
as a pies fan i hope this isn't eagles karma for winning the premiership against us in 18 but im not sure
Eagles fan. Funny. Who knows?
@@adriang6259 wait it just clicked with me yall bet us by five points saying that we will win in five years and here we are now lets see it unfold...
At least weagles have a recent premiership. Think they have rested on their laurels since and have been smashed by injuries.
Man I feel bad for West Coast supporters, A 171 point loss is insipid to say the least. I mean you just have to push through the tough times and hope there is light at the end of the tunnel and yeah, maybe consider getting a new coach. Might not be a short term fix but could be a long term fix and hope the youngsters come through. That’s all West Coast supporters can really hope in my opinion
Having seen my team be on rhe end of a bigger loss, i really do feel for you and the other Eagles fans.
I'm just hoping Oscar kicks a few each game to stay relevant in the coleman at this point
The USA is a good place to go to get bits for content:)
Think 13th on the ladder prediction is starting to get out of reach 😂😂
Richmond supporter here. Really feel for u guys at the moment. Terrible loss yes, but, you can’t really do much about the injury crisis. Just ride the season out and fix up next season. 🫶
As much as it sucks and hurts how bad the eagles are, this at least provides a lot of content opportunity for you right now and moving forward
Recently i was thinking when was the last time a team scored 200 points
what are your thoughts of simmo taking the rest of the year off, similar to clarko. let him have a holiday with his family and detox a bit. the new gameplan looked somewhat promising early in the year when we had the personell, but to be honest if we cant get 30 blokes on the training track theres no way we can progress it this year.
send our full focus on some tough off season decisions and gameplan, get as agressive as possible at the draft table, splash some cash in the strength & conditioning and development coaching department... get some new kids in and overall hope for a fresh start in 2024
I said it when they confirmed it, the signing of Tim Kelly will ruin the club and it did.
Rubbish. He will win the best and fairest. Basically been our best player consistently for 3 years now. We gave up three picks. But got a draft pick in too remember (Bazzo). Also, anyone we got for Kelly would only be 21 now and may just be an average player anyway, as it would have been draft picks around 15 to 30. If not for Kelly we would be really far worse off.
Eagles lost pick 14 and pick 18 for him. No guarantees there. Other draft picks were swapped which gave us Bazzo and Luke Edwards. We probably gave more than we should have. But for most of last 2 years we would be far worse off. Having said that when Kelly is 32, then it may cost us. But currently we're ahead on the Kelly trade.
We had a lot of senior players out there so clearly it’s not injuries. It’s effort. And as someone who is a paying member of the club, I have every right to complain.
Simpson HAS to go. No choice. Any new coach will do, as long as he demands effort.
You played for Nungarin footy club? Whaat. I played a couple of games for them and know some of the people who live there.
Hey freo thahed them in a scrap match this week
Yeah feel sorry for the Eagles, and I’m a Blues supporter- I guess I know how it feels.
Don’t like seeing any team sinking this low, but it’s footy and everyone gets a turn being up and down.
Hey mate.... As a swans fan all my life, even watching my beloved South Melbourne move to Sydney, It's never been "Puppy dogs and ice cream" for the swans nether.... So times a team needs a good kick up the back side... And poor old eagles got that... Sorry mate. Remember The swans used to get smashed every week during the 90's, this was a build up from that... All the best, keep your vids going...
I said at the start of the year, I wonder if we’ll ever see a 200 point score again, well here we are.
This is a time when loyalty is tested, and we’ll see who the real Eagles supporters are, but Gee-wiz, this was tough. I was busy, so couldn’t watch the game fortunately, and I don’t think I can bring myself to watch the replay.
You could tell Simmo looked genuinely flat, and embarrassed, you can tell he wants to see improvement. But is he really the best man for the job right now?
It’s another time where we’ll just have to bury our heads in the sand. Hopefully I wake up tomorrow and this whole season has just been a dream ( or nightmare I guess). Still 100% behind the club, but this was just painful.
Deserves a like. I’m e eagle fan through thick and thin and even if we’re down by 108 to Carlton and the boys tell me there gonna shoot off I never go with them. I watch it all.
But I’m fucking embarrassed. I don’t care no excuses can make a 171 point difference. I don’t think it quite hit me till I looked at afl live and saw 205.
Never seen it, never will again
@@footyflamez7455I was busy, checked the score on my phone in the first Quarter and it was 6 to 12, okay, not terrible it’s only 6 points. Looked at the end and refreshed the score 7 times, thinking there was a glitch. Sent a photo to my Mum and Brother, to confirm if it was the actual score or not. Just like you, I’ve never seen anything like this, hopefully we never see it again
@@darthjarjar4305haha half similar story here. So I watched the game, they kicked 2 goals in 1 and a half minutes so I went to go have a shower (I just played a club game) before I hopped in my dad messaged me saying 12-6 good stuff. I was happy. I got out of the shower maybe 7 minutes later and it was 52-6. 😂
As someone that hasnt played competitive footy since u16 div 6 a decade ago, and as i dont like punching down, so all i'll can say is better keep trying eagles
Brisbane at the GABBA in 2 weeks 😢
FLAGEAGLES 2023.
Hard to know how it might get better before the end of the year. Here are some random thoughts. Looking through the injury list, which is now somewhere between 18-20 players, there are mature seasoned players who could make a difference if they can get back before the end of the season -and that is a big if. I would have liked the club to put a line through several of them for the season and see if we could top up with some more mature players during the mid season draft. Amazing that shortly after that draft it was decided NN was not going to play again this year. I think most people already thought it unlikely he would be back this year and the club could have moved earlier and had another pick. So now we are waiting on the Cavalry as Simpson puts it. Trouble is so many of them have missed a big chunk of the season and as it's mostly lower body injuries, just how fit will they be? Still you need experienced players to provide guidance to the youngsters who are not up to the task at this stage. That is not their fault. The other major issue I wonder about is the level and severity of injuries. The players seem neither robust or resilient. Maybe time to replace the fitness and high performance team. I would like to see Gaff dropped -it annoys me that he appears to be an automatic pick while players like O'Neill are dropped - Sure their contributions are about the same, but we should be getting games into O'Neill and if he does not measure up by years end then move him on. Gaff should be on the trade table, but no one is going to come for him now.
ONeill and Trew aren't up to it. But the temptation will be to drop Gaff. Fact is that the youngsters need experience at AFL level. But some of them need to go to WAFL, get some form and then come back into the AFL. So you're a bit harsh on Simpson in picking guys like Gaff. You look at Chesser who went back to WAFL and played a different role. Then comes back to AFL and looks better.
Mental resilience is underestimated. We've had some horrendous injury periods. But I reckon some guys have come along and been psyched out before the match starts. I reckon look at the big losses and then see who performs badly in those matches. A big guide. I reckon Gaff Sheed Ledwards are three for starters.
If I was West Coast bored I’ll be throwing everything at the club and bring it up to scratch fast! This is just embarrassing now.
This could be one of the moments it changes the club for ever.
I reckon they are. Its all in house.
Just got on the wrong end of things today, a strong week on the track and the boys will be raring to go!
Wow that was abysmal.
Yeo Kelly sheed are not a strong bench let alone centre line.
They will probably push my saints to within a goal or two
As a dees fan, I've been there. We all know Geelong smashed Melbourne by 186 points in 2011. Look on the bright side - we won a flag a short 10 years later - and you can too!
I really hope Harley Reid doesn’t go to the Eagles. I doubt he wants to be there long term. Ideally the Eagles trade pick 1 for 3 picks inside 20, will be much easier for the top line young kids to head to the Eagles together.
Harley Reid won’t drastically improve the club but if you get a few guns drafted at once it could make a huge difference in a couple years, like a Rowell/Anderson or a Butters/Rozee/Duursma situation.
feel bad for some of the players like Shuey giving their all
Yes idiots keep saying the Eagles should retire Shuey Hurn Yeo and co. Can you honestly imagine what will happen when Shuey retires.
No Bueno
I wouldn't be surprised if Adam Simpson decides to part ways before their next game Hopefully its not the case and that the Eagles can turn it around,
You did not know how crap they actually knew
How are you watching Kayo while in the UK? I live in the UK and couldn't get it to work
Bit off topic but Jesse any chance of the T-shirt being ironed
AS a freo fan it sucks the toasters being this bad - can't even give you shit and enjoy it. That said, changing coach is not about improving in the short term, it's about changing the culture. A whole lot of things need to change - board, coaches, and whole lot of new players.
Those idiots should wear training jumpers or something. Just anything but our jumper.
People have to get sacked. Nobody has been this bad, ever. We’ve never played anyone in this much trouble.
I'll tell you what if West Coast make it out of this this is documentary worthy. It may already be documentary worthy. I run a footy tipping comp and I am genuinely considering a rule called the West Coast Margin and for West Coast games if you think West Coast will lose by more than the West Coast Margin than those who tip against West coast get a point but if West Coast Lose by less than the West Coast Margin people who tip West Coast will get a Point. I'm just glad I'm not in the West Coast higher ups. It will be a long road back. But Also there is a non 0 chance that West Coast are the New Fitzroy
First. I thought your game against my Crows was going to be your low point. Boy was I wrong. I usually don't feel a lot of sympathy for the Eagles (had an awful boss who supports them and it makes me happy knowing he's not) but I genuinely feel bad for your boys now
Second. I don't think Simmo can go until there is some stability with the injuries. A new coach will just be put through the wood chipper and wasted. I don't mind if he isn't the rebuild coach but it would be cruel to hand it over like this
Third. An investigation needs to happen. Work out what the problem is and rectify it. Is it fitness and conditioning? Are players completely committed off field? Whatever it is it's bad for the comp having a team this far off the pace
I think it’s going to get worse before it gets better
Hope west coast eagles can come back and win the games
Maybe against North. But we need the veterans back and run them into form. Also we need the kids ot have a break as they'll be overworked.
R17 is the end
Lions fan here. That performance was just appalling and astonishing. Calling WC witches hats would be disrespectful to witches hats. I'm not sure but I think at the start of the season you might have predicted a bounce back for WC! WOW! How many over 30 players they have is astonishing - Gaff 31, Natainui 33, Shuey 33, Cripps 31, McGovern 31, Hurn 35 and Darling 31. Whoever is their high performance manager needs to hand the money back because no team should have that much soft tissue injury. I would say nothing is ever is as good as looks or as bad as it seems so they just need a complete review, trade the No1 pick to get at least 3 First Rounders. Probably hit up GWS for Picks 5, 7 and the compensation pick for Himmelberg leaving. That would give them 5, 7, 18 and 19. Probably going to win the spoon again next year but at least thet would be on the way relevance because at the moment, they not even at AFL basic level.
Ok not that this is the reason the Eagles have so many injuries, like a lot is unlucky, but do you think it has something to do with the ground you play? I mean it's really bad for causing injuries surely that needs to be fixed at some point.
Sack Simpson and we lose over $3 million through payout to Simpson and payout of soft cap tax to AFL. Also you'd have to then choose another coach and pay $800k on top of the pay out for a new coach. You have to pay extras to get assistants and seniors to come to Perth. Which would mean a further tax by the AFL.
i feel so bad about west coast but it's become a joke at this point
I hadn’t seen the score yet, I thought this was clickbait 😅.
When I checked My AFL app, I refreshed it 7 times and sent a photo to my Mum and Brother, to confirm if that was the score or if my AFL was broken lol
@@darthjarjar4305 My condolences go out to all West Coast fans after this 😅
Totally agree get rid off the deadwood and play young blokes in their future positions
Frankly with this sort of performance going to the draft is a 3-4 year fix, and ruining a lot of talented kids along the way. From here, I have to think that the rookie draft for depth is going to have to be the plan.
Take 2-3 top picks from the draft then go get 4-5 guys who are desperate for that 2nd chance, guys in their mid 20s with some muscle on them to protect the kids a bit and then just pick teams on effort week in week out. If guys don't want to play, they get dropped.
I know we’re worse than ever but you gotta back the boys and give them some confidence
Are you sure it wasnt alfw?
Chesser is being played more as an inside player now. They tried him wing and it didn't work out. Luke Edwards has spent much of the year on the wing when playing. Jury is out on him, as I don't think he is quite up to it. Gaff has spent much of his year half forward in the middle and even some time playing behind the ball. He hasn't been on the wing for some time. Maybe Edwards was carrying an injury. Regardless, he had to play and get the experience, especially if Trew is going to be dropped at season end. Was O'Neill dropped? I really don't know how he can be kept either really. But you can't get rid of every guy in the early 20s. Hewitt will play League most of the year as was the plan before his injuries.
What's happening during the week when they train?
U will beat us this week just watch Jesse
Lol thought crows win was good but boy Sydney showed us by beating our win over west coast
I reckon some clubs have been taking it a bit easy on us.
@@BDub2024 just to clarify I ain’t no west coast supporter I’m a crows fan and I’d disagree just some teams have better offence then others
@@adrianfinch7382 Adelaide didn't totally crush all the way through to the very end. Fair enough. Its not criticism.
Don't judge the coach based on having no list:)
I think it’s safe to say that the Tim Kelly trade has not paid off as good as he is. It’s cost you guys so much. I also think Adam Simpson should leave West Coast. I just think he’s time is done. I can’t see him being the next West Coast premiership coach, so why keep him around let him enjoy himself away and then maybe coach Tasmania.
He’s our best player and top 15 in the brownlow. What u smokin
Before you argue with something you clearly don’t know much about look at his stats today, keep in mind we lost by 171
@@footyflamez7455 he’s one of your best players and I’m not denying anything that you’ve just said but because you got that one player you’ve given up four draft picks that could’ve given you guys some Depth. This is a case of a trade done at the wrong time.
Remember we got Bazzo out of the Kelly trade too. Without him we would really be in strife. We only would have picked up one or two additional players instead of him. He mightn't have made it. And wouldn't be any where near as good as Kelly.
I was the same with wanting Sydney to get to 200. I think it's probably because there is a part of me that wants Simpson gone
Big question for the draft would be is do West Coast trade the 1st pick for a swag of picks?
Need to trade it for multiple firsts. Port got Rozee, Butters and to a lesser extent Duursma in the same draft and changed their club. Even forgetting about the go home factor, they need a young group to change the eagles, one player can’t. What’s your thoughts?
They've become the worst side I've seen since 2010s Melbourne
As a saints fan even I've never experienced something as embarrassing as that. I'm sorry you had to witness that disgraceful performance
wait it could be coming
@@russelblackwell6041 yeah I might’ve spoke too soon lmao
As a crom fan, I feel sorry for you, the eagles fell from grace so quickly
Ironically the list manager who couldnt identify talent in WA is the same one that struggles to identofy talent at North. Gotta purge the state leagues for players and persue a quick rebuild.
Not much you can do with so many injuries..
Just remember it can get worse and these next few years are going to be the worst so I say just follow the Perth Scorchers
For the first time in AFL history we are not gonna blame this on the coaches, we blame on the injury prone senior players.
That was broken by the coaching staff.....
THE EAGLES ARE A DICGRAC