Davey Wreden: Playing Stories - Aalto University Games Now! -lecture series
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Davey Wreden talks about Playing Stories.
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00:00 Setting up
05:55 Introduction
08:05 What is the lecture about?
15:02 Launching The Stanley Parable
32:58 After the launch
41:07 What is your deeper reason for making games?
54:51 Q&A
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#thestanleyparable #gamedev - เกม
I know Davey is going to read these comments, becose what I just heard from this, so I just want to say this was great and I wish all good to you!
This explain perfectly everything there is to know about The Beginner's Guide.
haha well don't go too far with that thought bc thats exactly what youve been told not to do
8:06 July 15th, 2014
8:35 June 23rd, 2014
9:34 Stanley Parable’s Development
• Building around player experience
• Same action, different framing, different experience
12:58 Deeper Reason Behind Creative Work
*Davey Wreden*
15:21 Film School at USC
17:03 Validation -> Fall 18:18 Emptiness
19:25 William Pew
19:52 Stanley 21:04 Reaching into The Void
22:24 Oct 2013 HUGE SUCCESS
23:14 Recognition, Validation, Praise
25:48 Adrenaline 27:26 “you’ve been dreaming of this.” 28:23 “I was driving myself into the ground.”
BE LIKED
29:13 I’m happy
*Things Got Dark*
29:43 Racial Insensitivity, Hate Mail
30:39 Explanation, Emotional Pull into Other Worlds
31:34 Less Than Nothing: Disconnecting, Intrusion = Assault
32:57 End of The Year Awards
34:44 Power of Want/Intention
Addiction - “surrender”
35:59 Yes to everything, respond to every person.
SICK 🤒 36:55 Mood Swings
37:55 “you make me feel physically ill.”
38:16 Turning Life Back Around
39:32 Why did it happen?
40:55 “sorry about that.”
41:15 It all was forced at me so fast.
42:57 Desire, Reason, Internal Contract 44:44
46:38 Why am I…..? 47:05 because…
48:16 Internet
50:54 Violence, Fragile Women, Heroes
53:01 Patient
Thank you for the Timestamps
a life-altering talk. i don't think the structure and execution of it will connect with everyone but they're exactly the things i needed to hear
Hearing him talk about his experience making The Stanley Parable and how many ideas were left out just makes me so excited for the Ultra Deluxe version! I hope they had the chance to really make the game they wanted to make, I really loved the original for the way it challenged how I looked at media and storytelling. I’m trying to teach myself game development, so this was a really interesting talk to hear at the start of that journey, it really made me think about what I want from my art.
"standing in the room where u just press a button and hear the narrator speak" sounded like the skip ending
make sure to play The Beginners guide if you didn't yet, it is great
I gotta say.... I think this just changed my whole outlook on my life. I actually don't know what to think right now. But I'm inspired to act on this feeling and make some new decisions. Thank you from the bottom of my heart Davey!
hey so did you do anything ?
ITS BEEN 11 MONTHS SINCE THE LAST REPLYYYYY, ITS UPDATE TIME DUUUUUDE O____O
So, did you change something?
wow i’m not gonna lie this talk probably stopped me from going in the wrong direction for many years
God, more people need to hear this.
yes
For R
Stanley Parable was a fantastic exploration of art and dilbert.
This is exactly why I started trying to make games...and why I'm devastated every time it feels like a friend ghosted me...and why dating just feels like a useless chore. Davey, thank you so much for being vulnerable and real with us. I've never cried during a game dev talk, but I did during this one. Putting this in my favorites list to go back to whenever I start feeling completely alone.
Edit: I just laughed so hard at you responding with "Yeah, you just never hear about those people" to the first question.
If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Turn Back, it is the song at the end of The Beginners Guide
38:00
soo beginners guide is about his roommate
i do love that he incorporated that line though, "when i am near you i feel physically ill" he's really put a ton of his heart into this game and it makes it all the better
He basically exposed Coda. In the end of The Beginners Guide it says "For R." and Coda also says "When im around you i feel physically ill"
it just a lil thing that from real life maybe
@@AXharoth what you mean?
@@err0r925 that it might not be the exact same person, Wreden might have just added aspects of his roommate to closer tie the character together.
Uncle Ben coda isn’t a real person it’s a fictional game that Davey made to show his thoughts or something
Davey after that conversation: dang I have to reevaluate how my obsession with validation impacts my mental health and how I treat people BUT ALSO that line is dope I'm gonna use it
Thank you for uploading this.
rewatch it its so good
I watched this talk three times or so, very insightful
He is so articulate :)
This is water.
Thank you so much, Davey.
starts at 5:50
This was very inspirational! Thank you!
People who get lucky and people who try their ass off have one thing in common; Neither of them gave up.
Thank you for sharing your insights , I love The Stanley Parable
5:45
What if my fears and genuine interests are aligned? Right now, they both want to make the same game.
@5:59 Begin
that guy in the maroon sweater looks really cool
Great speaker, great opportunity. Really, just cut the first 5 1/2 minutes out of this video, there's no reason for it to be there. Thanks for uploading this video!
Your story of experiencing in less than a year things that an overwhelming majority of people experience spread out over many is reminiscent of one I've heard before in which someone gets a lot wiser, only to recognize that an audience is the yin to the artist's yang and that there is a helpful catharsis to be had in realizing the absurdity that you are still you, despite the fact that so many people paid attention to you for a short amount of time and so why were you he--of--whom--it--would--be--said "what a lurker" or "what a witty guy," and why were you he--who--did--xyz when xyz is something 99% of people pay no mind at all. Then too, one must crawl before one walks, which indicates not just that it's embarrassing and brave to produce art that exposes our inner selves, but also, there would be no Stanley Parable without you and so, well done. What's for dinner
what
this reminds me of "this is water"
"Davey" Foster Wallace
Wow you're right, this is actually a blatant ripoff of this is water but with more rambling and humble bragging. He uses a bunch of the same phrases like "unconscious default setting." Replace "contract" with the "terrible master" DFW talked about and you basically have the same speech. This is honestly pretty shameless,
Might have been inspired by the same source
Are we going to talk about the nooses on either side of him?
Those are for pulling down the projector screens?
@@unikitty484and executing Gumbles
I was nodding to everything up to 50:00...what the fuck kind of talk did turn into?
Adonis Batheus yeah bit of a leap there; irony or projection
And he said almost no humor in video games...clearly we had different experiences with it. His was not even close to the first game that experimented with some of these concepts
One that I related to deeply.
I think it makes a little more sense if you take into account when he started making the game, games and game narratives were a lot different back in 2008/2010
Honest, if self-indulgent, like he's using this talk as part of his therapy. Beginner's Guide seems to be about his therapy too. Hopefully he matures as an artist and makes something less about him, and more about the world. His ideas about craving validation, and other ego-fueled issues, is something we all deal with. Don't forget that your ego is not all bad, it's about balance between being proud of your achievements and being humbled every day and inspired by the world around you and the universe around the world. Don't be too worried about ego needs, just be aware of them, and as he says mindful of your purpose and creative/productive intentions. Don't forget to have interesting, challenging life experiences to fold into your art and stories, but avoid expressing self turmoil in such granular detail. Good luck.
ehm no fuck off
Why should he make his art about the world and not about personal problems?
Linie Kiste good question. The artists we teach our kids about in school usually use both personal misery and observation of their environment as content in their art.
kerosene It's psychological and universal. People don't buy his games because they are so interested in his head, they relate to the games. We are all interested in our heads.
He probably won't change what he is doing, since this is what he is good at. Although your point is way more universal than his. There are a lot of ways to be sick, healthy, make good or bad art etc. You are right about that. But Davey Wreden is the best at making games about Davey Wreden, so let him do his thing.
friend sent me this
it's to be expected in the twenty first century but the notion of "the contract" and the obsession with the question of whether you are "being enough" reeks of the same terminal sadness of identity
for trying to understand "the beginner's guide" this is misleading
because game-davey is the boring one
it's coda that we are all after
but coda's being is nonidentical and asocial
He's either a genius or a charlatan.
hes a game developer
Both
What makes you say he's a charlatan?
@@waltermays5551 He seems a bit full of himself. Your work should speak enough for you
@@peridot2912 he kinda did do that though with the beginners guide
Maybe rename this video as this has pretty much nothing to do with storytelling in games. Sure it is important to tell young people about mental fitness, but I was hoping for something related to the title and now I wasted an hour of my time. Though yeah, maybe young people don't look up this stuff unless lured in by false promises, but I would still rethink the title.