1949 Duel Willy Rozier vs Francois Chalais
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- 6 October 1949. Silent. Epee duel to first blood.
Willy Rozier (27 June 1901 - 29 May 1983) was a French actor, film director, film producer and screenwriter who also used the pseudonym Xavier Vallier.
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François Chalais (December 15, 1919 - May 1, 1996) was a prominent French reporter, journalist, writer and film historian. The François Chalais Prize at the annual Cannes Film Festival is named after him.
In 1949 he fought and lost a duel with swords with director Willy Rozier, provoked by comments Chalais had made about actress Marie Dea.
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FILM PRODUCER BATTLES CRITIC
Lady's Honor Issue in Furious Duel
PARIS, 6 October 1949 (UP) - An irate film producer drew blood today from a drama critic in a furious three-minute duel with swords over a lady's honor.
The producer, Willy Rozier, nicked Critic Francois Chalais in the arm as the two quick-stepped back and forth over a forest floor of autumn leaves.
Rozier challenged Chalais to the duel after brooding for months over the critic's assertion that a certain actress' "career was behind her."
The producer said Chalais' reference was anatomical than literary. They muttered over the phrase to their friends for months and glowered at each other whenever they met in bar, restaurant or theater.
The strain finally became too great and Rozier challenged Chalais to fight it out.
As befitted a producer and a critic they invited a large audience of 30 reporters and 15 photographers.
The assemblage crowded into a small courtyard of the stables in the Bois de Boulogne during the night. But the stable owner said the sword-clanging might upset his horses and ask the men to take their affaire d'honneur elsewhere.
After brief consultation they decided to postpone the affair until the afternoon and fight it out in the woods.
They went their separate ways, ate lunch and then met again at the selected clearing with the classic entourage of seconds and doctors.
Chalais, obviously the less skillful swordsman of the two, was at a disadvantage from the first. The short encounter was interrupted by the umpire twice after Chalais faulted by touching his sword to the ground. After each fault the sword was sterilized.
Then Rozier cut Chalais across the arm. Chalais, looking more wounded than he really was, dropped his sword when he felt the blade cutting across his flesh. He was not hurt seriously.
"It wasn't too dangerous," one witness said. "That cut of Chalais, why a man runs a bigger risk every morning when he shaves himself."
First blood was usually enough to settle a matter, but not always. I was a tournament fencer from 1978 to 1995 and on the US National circuit in the 80s. I started with foil but mastered all three weapons. I did a lot of epee after 1988. These are epees with sharp tips. This duel looks just like a modern epee match where the light and buzzer go off when one scores. Modern fencing is a replication of the traditional duel and by the late 19th century, this is what a duel looked like. However, there was a saber duel in France around 1900 where the loser completely lost his head!
Ja, på 700-900 i Norge ble det kalt holmgang. Duellantene ble satt av på en holme men ble avgjort med første synet av blod så nødvendigvis ikke døden.
Fascinante 😮
I can confirm that while specifically banned under the UCMJ, duelling has been known to occur during Marine Corps Balls. Apparently alcohol, egos, and readily available swords can lead to words being spoken. Most times more sober heads prevail and it devolves into a fist fight, but I know of three individuals who have gone to the hospital that way.
Cool.... Thats a retirement issue if i''m very much mistaken
@jameswells554 I know of a duel that occurred in 1978 in Sonoma in Sonoma County, CA between two college fencer. They used sharpened fencing sabers. One knew how to use his point and pierced his opponent's forearm up to the elbow.
A level of Honor existed between men. This type of duel has been lost to violence.
and then he has to have the honor of chewing the defeat and the wound and bacarsela. That with more than one men con eggs ends in a death
It was in a time when Chivalry was the major cultural influence in Western Civilization. The modern Olympics and the rules/traditions of sportsmanship were established by the duelist and fencer Baron de Coubertin. There is a TH-cam video about him on my Facebook page.
You do realise sword fighting is still "violence"?
Just because they were very polite about doesn't mean it's not a violent way to settle a dispute.
This can only be done in homogenous societies
@@sweeneytodd011 Supposedly "violence" is subjective. We literally have humans who say "Silence is Violence" . LMAO
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There could be less fake news and irresponsible journalism if reporters had to back up their words with swords.
Same with the idiot claims of politicians.
After this I hope that the sound engineer was fired....
He was challenged to a duel...
In 1949 there was no sound engineer. There was a camera man, and a sound man. The two were recorded separately and marred together at the film lab. Many many many things were filmed without a sound man there to record sound, as would have been the case in this film.
@@GrogHambone Ohh my Gottt!! You must be joking...
@@divinusmaximus1315 Nope. Its how it was. My dear departed father was a film camera man for CBC his entire career..... and I spent many days with him and his sound man on different shoots.
@@GrogHambone Okay okay okay.... :) But I hope that you are aware of the fact that my first comment was a sarcastic joke...? :)) And I know about all the things you write here ... :))
С уважением, и так далее. Парень в рубашке был красив, мужик в очках профессионален.
Парень размахивал клинком более амплитудно, его оружие часто и надолго отклонялось от средней линии. Мужик в очках уверенно держал центр, его оружие в защите отклонялось строго в пределах необходимости.
Оба использовали провоцирующие удары по клинку, парень при этом часто терял равновесие и контроль средней линии.
У парня не было шансов, мужику в очках уважение.
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It looks like it's up to him, he shakes his head like: "Yeah, I consider I've had enough!"... As soon as blood shows its color he's allowed to express that he feels going further would be too risky, his opponent looked steadier and more confident.
"Courage man, the hurt csnnot be much.Tis but a scratch"
"Aye, tis not so deep as a well, nor wide as a church door, but tis enough. T'will serve".
"They have made worms meat of me. Ask for me tomorrow and you shall find me a grave man"
Romeo and Juliet.
Shakespeare had some wonderful words on duelling!
The dude in the shades looked like the winner before it started. Thanks for posting this. 👍
Watch the movie "The Duellists" Ridley Scott's first film Keith Carradine and Harvey Kietel fabulous movie
Seen the movie years ago SUPERB !
Why watch a Hollywood movie when there's actual footage of real duels?
One of the best movies.
A MUST SEE
Exceptionally good movie.
It is much more dangerous than some might think. These fine blades can penetrate the body with amazing ease. First blood can mean you are not among the living, or if you still are, not for long
I remember François Chalais. He was a journalist and used to cover the movie Festival of Cannes. I was young, but i remember having watched him on tv. He had a particular voice and way of speaking. But though he was old , he was class and still good looking. As far as i recall, he was a ladies man. The beautiful lady at the beginning of this footage, was probably one of his girls friends...
No doubt that he was a man of balls as well
He was married with vietnamese woman@@rotorairgroup8409
And a big sword...girls like that.
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You mean testicular fortitude in a duels with either instruments of steel or flesh@rotorairgroup8409
3:41 Bro wearing the glasses got offended..
Ils sont bien en forme ces deux messieurs et compétents , ça manque aujourd'hui...
Let's hope that there is intelligent life in the universe, that's our only hope.
🤣🤣🤣
They’ll just have better swords
Don't bet on it😂
Errol Flynn - Basil Rathbone in Robin Hood 1938. Rathbone was actually a swordsman.
The arbiter on the side, wearing hat and branding an epee too! Was him ready to hit one of them if deemed necessary?
If he did, duel would be considered finished satisfactorily? 😅😅😂😂
That was the time, when after fuck-up you can be fuck-up in a duel.
Cool that the experienced one who wins are wearing shades, protecting his eyes :) and the one who maybe already knows he won't win, is wearing white, so any blood is seen easily and he can stop fighting and avoid serious injury :) both are wise I guess
Il faut revenir au duel comme le démontre Lugan, ainsi les journalistes réfléchiraient à deux fois avant de salir et diffamer.
Bella idea!!!...
Emoție,demnitate și curaj!
Sir Oswald Mosley, the English aristocrat and 6th baronet was very adept in the use of the epee, considered by many to be the original duelling sword.
I went to an English public school (private boarding for you Yanks) where we were taught to box. Sadly the 'gentlemanly' ways of settling a dispute have disappeared mostly, although I recently got into a dispute with a gyppo over his bad parking blocking me in outside Halfords, I was pleasantly surprised to discover he was an honourable cove and we exchanged blows in a civilised manner.
It was a draw.
He moved his van.
i was a boser myself for many years. i made it on a team while in the army and almost made it to the olympics for the US. but not to be. i lost during training in colorado. i unfortunetly developed a healthy heroin addiction by this time and brought me low. ruined everything for me for several years. butback in those days in my weight class the competion was very good. guys named Roy Jones Jr. for example. anyways dont do drugs kids
From the pre fight it looked very much like the man in the glasses was the most vexed, and looked the most confident.
I got the impression the other guy would have been happier to say "look let's forget about all this eh old chap?" Or the French equivalent.
Proved true as the glasses 🕶 wins and other fellow seems happy to call it a day.
I'd like to know what led to the whole thing 🤔
Wish it was still legal to duel with people. There’d be a lot fewer folks mouthing off in the world.
Why would you think that? And in the age of social media, how would that even work? Anonymous people across the world challenging each other to duels?
Mutual combat is legal.
@@kylep.4503 Yeah in certain states. I think Washington is one, but not sure.
It wouldn't stop anyone from mouthing off. People have no etiquette these days or genuine concern or respect for their opponent whether they are mouthing off or not. Respect and compassion are just as essential before the fight as after by opponents. Whether one deserves it or not. Want dueling? Bring back being a genuine Gentleman, first. In my opinion anyway.
@@SimWolfe lmao even LESS chance of that happening.
I believe there was a fencing match some years ago with protective vests and tips on the epees. Apparently the tip on one of the epees came off unnoticed and the epee penetrated the other fencer’s vest and killed him.
It penetrates the mask ; the dead athlete was Vladimir Smirnov.
Yes, around 1980. The blade broke near the tip, leaving a sharp ragged end. The bout is supposed to stop immediately, but when it occurs in the same action of the thrust, for example beat (opponent's blade) thrust. Where the beat causes the tip to break, and the trust continues without the protection of the tip. The tip in an electric epee looks like the head of a 16d nail, or the blunt end of a pencil. We would each break about 3 blades/ year.
After this accident, the spandex jacket/pants used in competitions were forbidden and they went back to cotton. I still have my spandex outfit when I competed from that time.
A proper duel is where someone gets skewered.
A slight nick on the arm, hardly skewered, but yes, nice to see a REAL duel!
Incorrect
Yeah if you’re a philistine in the 1800’s sure. This was the 20th century and dueling was nowhere near what it was before.
Almost as good as the duels in Princess Bride and Rob Roy.
Wow it's very cinematic
Los dos tipos habían tomado en serio sus lecciones de esgrima.
If they were facing Jet Li with a sword forget it
I personally think a better way to settle this would to have a good game of Tiddly Winks instead.
Right !!!! ...... or a game of "Uno" ...... maybe "rock paper scissors" .... LMAO 🙂
I don't know, you could have your eye out with one of those.
@@aesopstortoise LMAO !!!!! 🙂
Chalais is lucky he only got a minor wound to the forearm. Rozier was clearly focused first and foremost on a clean defense. When in range he stayed on point with minimal movement of the arm compared to Chalais who took to swinging a bat. Rozier bid his time and when Chalais was assisted offline with his own point Rozier closed just enough to land a hit then partially opened the distance again to avoid any immediate reprisal.
Watch the economy of Rozier's movements vs the frantic and exaggerated ones of Chalais. Rozier knew immediately this was a matter of keeping himself safe until his opponent's wild motions opened him to a hit which was safe for Rozier.
So he says to me, "Foil or epi?" 😆
It's easy to see in the comments that people don't get the point. It's an honor thing (remember that?) between gentlemen. Once finished it's all good.
Yeah like irish tinkers.
Life is not a corny film script.
awesome
Never knew they had refs in duels. I thought it was fight to the death.
In the 18th century most were...but in the 19th and 20th centuries most were just to first blood.
@@Master...deBaternearly All duels were to first blood or a number of attempts or shots. Duels that were agreed to be to the death were rare.
@@dimesonhiseyes9134 Wrong...in the 1700's most Smallsword duels were to either death or one or both of the combatants were unable to continue. First blood duels came about in the 19th century!
That's how all disputes should be settled 😮
Biden verses Trump LOL one would fall asleep before the start the other you couldn’t stop him telling everybody he was the great swords man and duelist that ever lived, he would of course turn up with a ten foot sword so Biden couldn’t jab him, Biden seconds would have to keep him from tripping over and forgetting where was. LOL
А как элегантно они одеты.
Des vrais hommes💪
Only a Frenchman would fight a duel with sunglasses on 😂
The newspaper says « Francois chalais arm wounded in a duel ». According to the video, it looked more like a light scratch.
Ora siamo imbecilli ma settantacinque anni fa lo eravamo molto di più!!
It was just a flesh wound
Not quite so Zorro when the blades are live and it's not rehearsed
Wow!
Cadê? Quem morreu? briga de comadres.
Can't believe he actually fought with wearing sun glasses lol
Maybe it was sunny?
They're protective eye goggles used for duelling, not sunglasses
@Liam-yr4uf it was a joke mate. I know they're not sunglasses ffs
@@mikeyoung7660 ah sorry. Hard to tell these days lol
@@Liam-yr4uf 😜😜😜
thought I was going to be watching a bloke selling dodgy merchandise !
La classe ! ..perdue... hélas !
Why did they fight?
It's in the description
@@schlager7 why did they duel? An insult?
@@fernandoromero9906 Since no one can be bothered to read the description... "Rozier challenged Chalais to the duel after brooding for months over the critic's assertion that a certain actress' "career was behind her."
ppl need to learn how to turn their backs and walk away from a conflict before letting it get to such a point. People take things too seriously.
You may find as you progress in years that some things have to be taken seriously.
@@michaelmorgan9289 On the contrary - the older you get, the more you start taking a lot of things less seriously.
But...but.....but.......her honour. What about the honour of some woman that was apparently insulted months previously? Lol, it's fucking crazy isn't it?
I hope that film director got his hole after this.
Also, if I was the critic, I would double down and slag her off again in the next review.
It's just a scratch.
I've had worse lol
Incredibld riposte, not to mention focus.
yes
Barbaric , savage and we despise the rest of the world.....fortunately things have changed..
Jesus I thought it was going to be good
Rozier style sucked but he won, that's what matters.
Imagine today's people.
Eeh! Gads, you bounder! That smarts. What. What. What.
No one died?
😂😂😂
Pretty sure all those people are dead
Douglas MacArthur looked the suaver as well
This two are angry.
I want to see Jose ferrer or Douglas fairbanks
Why didn't the other wear goggles? If they were allowed it was an unnecessary risk.
Epee wouldn’t be my choice. Sabers would be my first choice. If dueling is allowed today, with the firm rule that forbids professional duelers who stand in for one of the men, there will be fewer cowardly trolls insulting another man on social media and in person, because the troll knows that the moment he insults another without provocation, he better back it up with his life.
Is this a fight to the death or just a demonstration?
This was a duel to "first blood," i.e. a REAL FIGHT! "First blood" could mean being stabbed in the arm, as happened in this case, or it could mean being stabbed through the heart.
First blood anywhere on the body.
1. The back of the hand is the most likely target, as it is closest, but if you can keep it behind the bell, then the wrist/ forearm is next closest.
(Just looking at how each held their arm, I could predict the winner).
2. After that, the forearm or leg easily hit.
3. Parry six leads (high and outward) leads to shoulder, head shots.
4. Parry four/ bind leads to stomach shots.
5. Foot is just as far away as head shot, but is a smaller target.
The non weapon hand is the hardest to reach, unless you are facing a beginner.
Any touch will cause blood, pain, or possibly death.
@@bobhuffman7412 Thanks for that. So the purpose is to draw blood first. What if it’s a real vendetta and one literally wants to kill the other?
@@fredsalfaThat would be considered ungentlemanly and a violation of The Code Of Duello. Thus subjecting who does such a thing to criminal prosecution or retribution. Notice the referee has a sword as well. If something like that were to occur, he's expected to block it and/or put down or subdue whoever has decided to dishonor themselves in such an act.
I don't get the point.
He got the point; Directly on his forearm
@@bobertkallahan4392 Maybe he needs a tip?
These scenes are repeated on the streets of London almost daily
Wearing sunglasses so the opponent can't read your eyes.
Nice......
Also eye protection me thinks.
Thought it was mandatory to have a blouse shirt?
Interesting people the French.😊
Whoops-a-daisy
Respect++
Tis but a scratch.
Dueling was banned in France in 1626. All THIS is was purely a publicity stunt. Plain and simple.
Trial by Combat was outlawed. The duel of honor (always illegal in France) sprang up as a result.
Who is the fellow in the hat? Is he a referee of sorts?
Yes. Deuling was very regulated and hat pretty strict rules of protocol. The duelists would appoint seconds. The seconds would negotiate and try to come to some sort of amicable arrangement that did not require deuling. Barring that they would negotiate time, weapon, duration, and nature of the duel.
When dueling the judge was an agreed upon neutral party that was there to ensure everything was handled in an agreed upon manner.
The second is there to defend the first man in case of violation and act as aid and witness.
A surgeon was often on site to administer aid immediately when requested or required.
eggs are missing.leave there hurt?
a duel macron vs putin 🤩
Red hot pokers. 👍🏻
The arms are just regular fencing epee's - nothing special only sharpened points. Not exciting.
No...they were Epee De Combat swords...very deadly weapons!
Слепой победил?
Aw, he got a petite booboo on his arm.....so silly.
🙀🙀🙀
When you get the sh!t beat out of you by a street fighter, you know you wasted your time on fencing. This is like bad comedy, ridiculous
Just a flesh wound. 'Tis nothing.
Actually he received a slice to the coch (old French spelling for cock, pronounced like loch)
Ahh Gitanes.
They wrere mad mad
animals
WTF?
Street Beefs, but you are an aristocrat.
Это дуэль? Больше похоже на хреновый "балет" с указками.
Lo único que demostraban estos duelos es que uno fue mejor que el otro..
Pero no demuestra si era o no inocente de las injurias o acusaciones por la cual fueron al duelo..
Riposte? We have the same thing in Glasgow..."hit him wi' ra post"!
You'll never beat a wee bit of Weegie wit.
You won't catch me oot we that old trick. Look away Martha