Ramses Shaffy and Liesbeth List, Pastorale (with English subtitles) REACTION!

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  • @MLWitteman
    @MLWitteman ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Probably one of the most beautiful songs every written in the Dutch language. The incredible instruments from the orchestra, combined with the poetic lyrics makes this a small treasure for the ears. I’m really proud that this song was written and composed by my fellow Haarlemmers: Boudewijn de Groot & Lennaert Nijgh. But it couldn’t be performed better than by Ramses Shaffy & Liesbeth List. These 4 truly created a masterpiece with this song.

    • @Tuinlaaf
      @Tuinlaaf ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Totally agree with the above. One of the most beautiful musical pieces in the Dutch language. Also kudo's to the one who subtitled this, he or she did an amazing job. Not translating word by word, but somewhat looser to better convey the meaning of the sentences.

    • @petermaardananders6803
      @petermaardananders6803 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tuinlaaf They were hopelesly in love back then, very special and it always gives me 'chicken-skin'.

    • @johnmeijer1246
      @johnmeijer1246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree. One of a kind

    • @Hank-d7q
      @Hank-d7q 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I am Dutch, Klein Orkest (also a Dutch band), recorded "Over de Muur", also recorded by Germans. It has historical significance.

  • @dutchman7623
    @dutchman7623 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This song mostly about their complex relationship. Every word, every sentence, refers to it.
    There is a deep double meaning to it. 'You cannot love the sun!' it will burn you, destroy you when you come too close, tear up everything you care for, yet you cannot exist without it...
    She loved him dearly, passionately, and couldn't live without him, he was her inspiration. Yet he lived a different life. Was gay, ended up in all kind of relations, got disappointed, turned to alcohol and drugs, got depressed. And every time she pulled him out of the shit and put him back on his tracks. But he wanted to be free, and unbound to anyone, so he made the same mistakes over and over again. And though she knew they couldn't have the relation she wanted, she stayed committed to him.

  • @melodiemaker86
    @melodiemaker86 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Song is written by Boudewijn de Groot and great lyrics by Lennaert Nijgh. They did also "Meneer de President" also present on your channel. Ramses Shaffy is the sun and Liesbeth List the earth in this story. Greetings from The Netherlands.

    • @MarcelNL
      @MarcelNL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only thing that always has bothered me is how casual he says: "Je kunt niet houden van de zon".
      To me it felt that the writer wanted that to be expressed with much more emotion and strength. More drama perhaps.

  • @lbergen001
    @lbergen001 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is epic. Hearing this after decades again gave me goosebumps. It should be part of the Dutch Canon. Well done Ramses, Liesbeth, Boudewijn en Lennart.👍👍

    • @MarcelNL
      @MarcelNL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brings me back to my childhood. Even back then I absolutely loved this song.
      It has a special place in my heart, just like Paolo Conte's "Max". Completely different style, but it also gave me strong feelings every time I heard it.

  • @renevaanhold
    @renevaanhold ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A unique dutch classic song. The love between the sun and the earth.
    The singers also had a unique relationship. They loved each other but never lived together.

    • @dutchman7623
      @dutchman7623 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This song is also about their complex relationship. Every word, every sentence, refers to it.
      There is a deep double meaning to it. 'You cannot love the sun!' it will burn you, destroy you when you come too close, tear up everything you care for, yet you cannot exist without it...

  • @evertvdb000
    @evertvdb000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not only in Holland, also in Belgium it's a classic.

  • @nelvanommen9324
    @nelvanommen9324 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Back to my childhood, i love them both.

  • @katlijnroovers7357
    @katlijnroovers7357 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This song stays beautiful, for.i grew up with that kind of songs thanks for this memory lane ❣️

  • @AnaryaVhargon
    @AnaryaVhargon ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This song always, always makes me cry and I have no clue why ...

  • @ronaldderooij1774
    @ronaldderooij1774 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think this is the most beautiful song and music ever written in the Dutch language. The singers and songwriter had very complicated characters. The singers were deeply in love with each other for years, but never married or even shared a home. The songwriter lived on a ship in Haarlem at the time, I think (he was an alcoholic).

    • @annemariehoutenbos212
      @annemariehoutenbos212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ramses Shaffey was gay, so there was no chance of him and Liesbeth List ever coming together😏

  • @Chris29_11
    @Chris29_11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Aaw! Love this song for years! Still beautiful 😊

  • @reinjanmaat1839
    @reinjanmaat1839 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For me this is childhood sentiment, it's nice to hear your comments on it

  • @jeroent5079
    @jeroent5079 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This song is way up there in my life’s Top 10 songs. Thanks for reacting to it.

  • @tarquinmidwinter2056
    @tarquinmidwinter2056 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sadly both Liesbeth List and Ramses Shaffy have both now departed, but they've left a lot for us to enjoy. There's a great TH-cam video of them singing this duet live, both well advanced in years but still magical.

  • @-Mieke
    @-Mieke ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beautiful Dutch music history🌟❤

  • @I.Toverheks
    @I.Toverheks ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used to have an LP with this song.. sang and danced the hell out of it when i was 9 or 10 when I was alone in my room early 80s
    This and meester prikkebeen..
    I was a weird kid.
    Even then.

  • @wilmagrevenmulder6225
    @wilmagrevenmulder6225 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stays good this classic song 👍

  • @jcjhudson
    @jcjhudson ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I LOVED this song when it first came out (yes I’m that old…lol)

  • @astridsandifort-joffer9792
    @astridsandifort-joffer9792 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this song

  • @MarcelNL
    @MarcelNL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NOOOOOO MY GOD!!! :D I wanted to request this one some day! (Perhaps I did mention it a few times in the comments, but I had no subs.) Awesome, gonna check right away!
    Good to see that Dutch fans here have such good taste! :D

    • @MarcelNL
      @MarcelNL ปีที่แล้ว

      "Simply worded"? Haha, it's poetic as hell!
      I wonder at which point you'll find out that he's supposed to be the sun in this song. :-)
      This song always reminds me of the Star Trek episode "Masks" in which Data gets influenced by some ancient alien object from an extinct species, and gets programmed to be their sun god. In the end of the episode, Picard needs to become the moon god to put him to rest.

  • @kellyvandijk3269
    @kellyvandijk3269 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my all time favorite Dutch song.

  • @jeffreyscholte4737
    @jeffreyscholte4737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 2009, a few weeks before Ramses passed away, i was figurating in a videoclip from a group and then suddenly i saw Ramses walking with his "rollator" walker, but i was afraid to ask a picture with him. That's why i do regret it a bit that i didn't ask him.

  • @MarthaSpherical
    @MarthaSpherical ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow flash back to my youth. Great lyrics by Boudewijn de Groot 👏

  • @ad61video
    @ad61video 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its a conversation between the fiery male sun aroynd whom everything revolves and the sunloving feminine earth.

  • @tropenkindje1
    @tropenkindje1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best Dutch song ever.

  • @ronoudshoorn5349
    @ronoudshoorn5349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a love story

  • @sebvansteijn7227
    @sebvansteijn7227 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wagneriaans...Fantastisch...

  • @miran4471
    @miran4471 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg i have great memories ❤️🌷

  • @mischake
    @mischake ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man, love your channel, always awesome to see you cover dutch videos
    I was hoping you could do one that is really dear to me:
    Boudewijn de Groot - Verdronken Vlinder

  • @chantalmelijn3652
    @chantalmelijn3652 ปีที่แล้ว

    The creator speaks

  • @aidanheemskerk6778
    @aidanheemskerk6778 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After this you should listen to the song 'De Sneeuwkoningin'(The Snowqueen) a solosong by Liesbeth. It is written as a diptych with this song.

    • @HighlyCombustibleReacts
      @HighlyCombustibleReacts  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, Please add your suggestions to googleform. You can find the link under every video. Make sure it has english subtitles though. Thanks

  • @katjavanderlei8402
    @katjavanderlei8402 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me ??? Best Dutch song ever

  • @justmandy6572
    @justmandy6572 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that song. Never knew what it was about though. Still don't...even with English subs, lol

    • @Tuinlaaf
      @Tuinlaaf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's about the love between the sun (shaffy) and the earth (list)

    • @justmandy6572
      @justmandy6572 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tuinlaaf thanx...im not that poetic, lol

  • @manhassetport-washington4546
    @manhassetport-washington4546 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the guy has narcissistic tendencies (everything evolves around me, like the sun. You cannot love the sun), but the lady does not want to listen to his warnings... she keeps on loving him even though there is a chance that she may get burned by him.

  • @i.w.vanderlubben3395
    @i.w.vanderlubben3395 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude this stuf is about 50 years old , do you have avy clue?

  • @henkoosterink8744
    @henkoosterink8744 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply worded....?

  • @tamarys89east38
    @tamarys89east38 ปีที่แล้ว

    Leuk hoor ons cultuur erfgoed maar kom op man.. dit staat toch echt te ver van hem af😅
    Dit is zo Hollands... Nederlandse wordt het niet.