I think too many people believe that Ned was the one that spread the story of him beating Dayne.I doubt very seriously knowing his character and his personality that it was him. He just didn't correct it because it was connected to the secret about Jon Snow.
oh, young ned stark is elrond. Older him is going to say "One of you must do this" to the other older him who will say "one does not simply walk into mordor..."
Yeah no. Casting him as Elrond was the worst casting in rop, which is saying something considering there are only three good castings in that entire show.
"I wish you good fortune in the wars to come". The same line Mance Rayder said to Stannis before he dies, maybe implying that Mance Rayder was actually Arthur Dayne. Its a far stretch but interesting
He's using Dawn during this fight. It's just depicted differently from the books. In the books it's a two-handed sword in the show it's a bastard sword.
@@digitalcabbage910 At what point does it show it's Dawn. Monkeyshines for TV. A warrior with a bastard sword holding off (and killing) would have looked better. But.. they had to pay the sword trainer.
@@Waxer2200 And what an alternate reality that is, they kill Robert and protect the prince, who then becomes King. His wife is protected by lesser capable men but no worry since victory is secured. Jon is heir and takes Dani as his Queen
The whole dude stabbing Dayne in the back thing really isn't a big deal nor a stain on Ned's honor. The gripe against Jamie stabbing the mad king in the back isn't so much about the actual stab in the back physically. It was the fact that Ned and Robert put their life on the line leading a rebellion against the mad king and Jamie and the Lannisters only turned on the Mad King when the Rebellion was beatinhg down the gates of the Red Keep. Jamie and the Lannisters fought for the Mad King until the very last second when they knew the rebellion was going to win and they would probably be on the chopping block.
Heard the story a thousand times doesn’t mean Ned said it. If 6 on 2 is ok how is from behind not? Ned gave final blow and held is own at young age vs best ever.
I can't be the only one who thinks the kingsguard were wrong, a man came asking for his sister who he believes was kidnapped and y'all pull your swords. At least allow him to see her first, if he wants to take the child to Robert then you fight. You can't fault a man for looking for his sister
it's not about taking Jon to Robert, they were protecting their prince's birthright to the throne, which they knew for sure Ned wouldn't support as him and half the realm joined up to overthrow the Targaryens
Well if my classmate came to my house with five more or them and asked me for a pencil looking me the way Ned was looking Arthur I would’ve suspicious about them triying to do something too
There’s nothing that said Ned wouldn’t do to Jon what was done to Rhaegars other children, why they fought makes sense it’s just we know that Ned would have never harmed Jon
It would have been better if it were a reversal of the Jaime/Ned fight... Reed stabs him in the leg from behind and Ned finishes him off, instead of like Jaime who stopped fighting when Ned was stabbed in the leg from behind. I just dont think this fits with the story. We know Ned was a man of honor, he would not have claimed to have killed Dane if this was the way it happened. He would give the "credit" to Reed.
И он на самом деле отдал должное . Просто если бы он рассказал правдивую историю то начнут идти вопросы . А потом кто-то догадается что Джон это Эйгон Таргареен то Роберт просто убьет его . Я думаю что Дейны знали о произошедшем ведь Нед вернул им фамильный меч и ненадолго задержался в их владениях . А так как Дейны дорнийцы которые в прямом смысле являлись самыми верными союзниками Таргареенов они бы не стали разглашать секрет Джона .
In truth, Ned never claimed to have beaten Arthur dayne. He probably said that he killed him, which this flashback shows that to be true, and people who loved telling stories probably just started spinning imaginary tales of an epic 1v1 fight where Ned came out on top and he never bothered to tell the whole truth. He did tell his children that he only survived this fight because of howland reed
Yea but Reed never spoke of what happened up there, and everyone knew there had been a showdown that only Ned and howland returned from, so stories got told and of course the story involved Ned "defeating" Arthur in single combat. Ned just didn't deny the stories so pretty much everyone but Jamie Lannister believed the stories told by people who weren't there
The guy from movie fusion sums up what's wrong with today's young men in a single sentence. he said "who cares about honor though as long as you win" Who cares about honor, ? In a sword duel ? I was raised that my honor is the one thing that can't be taken away from me by force... I'd have to choose to give it away by my own actions, to lose it. Once you've done that it's so hard to get it back.
@natebaxter9551 but not claiming himself as a noble man of honor after doing this shit and not telling world I defeated Arthur dayne. Tell them the exact story but yk all starks sucks.
@avnisheditz7150 man, please. War isn't a joust or tournament. It's kill or be killed. And Ned made it very clear how he got down. Dayne died by the sword like a proper soldier and Ned showed respect to the family after. Real honor doesn't look pretty. Ned and Jon were the only ones that actually understood that.
Nah Ned grandstanding for Robert after he gloated about Elia Martell being raped & murdered and what happened to Rhaegars other children prove Ned wasn’t the honourable guy he pretended to be way more than this duel
Ser Arthur Dayne started the Jedi Order.
Sir Arthur Dane The Sword Of The Morning with his sword Dawn is a G!!!
Word! AD is a bad ash!
Yeah Dawn is forged from the metal of meteorite and is at least equal to Valyrian steel blades.
Anyone else wish Ned might have taken a moment to check on Howland Reed for a minute before running off to find his sister?
Reed is the homie. All he needs is a nod to know he's good.
I think too many people believe that Ned was the one that spread the story of him beating Dayne.I doubt very seriously knowing his character and his personality that it was him. He just didn't correct it because it was connected to the secret about Jon Snow.
Ned Stark killed Ser Arthur Dane, he didn’t defeat him. These are two different things. This where history is written by the victors.
Most likely Robert went full on story time celebrating his best friend taking down Arthur dayne in epic fashion
@ that is certainly more plausible.
oh, young ned stark is elrond. Older him is going to say "One of you must do this" to the other older him who will say "one does not simply walk into mordor..."
Yeah no. Casting him as Elrond was the worst casting in rop, which is saying something considering there are only three good castings in that entire show.
"I wish you good fortune in the wars to come". The same line Mance Rayder said to Stannis before he dies, maybe implying that Mance Rayder was actually Arthur Dayne. Its a far stretch but interesting
It’s a common saying in Westeros
Arthur Dayne?As in the guy who gets stabbed in the throat and chest?
@@MrBalzJohnson
Ah yes the headless Arthur dayne
Arthur Dane has Dawn, The Sword of the Morning and doesn't even use it, very disappointing,
He's using Dawn during this fight. It's just depicted differently from the books. In the books it's a two-handed sword in the show it's a bastard sword.
@@digitalcabbage910two handed-great sword to be fair :)
@@digitalcabbage910 At what point does it show it's Dawn. Monkeyshines for TV. A warrior with a bastard sword holding off (and killing) would have looked better. But.. they had to pay the sword trainer.
@danwilson3342 Dawn was the sword with the what looks like a rising sun design on the pommel.
@Yes but not a greatsword, sorta the impression it was a 2-handerer from readings.
Arthur Dane was a real badass.
“I looked for you on the Trident.”
He was on guard to protect jon snow beacuse he was a targrygon.
“Your friend the usurper would lie beneath the ground if we had been”
@@Waxer2200 And what an alternate reality that is, they kill Robert and protect the prince, who then becomes King. His wife is protected by lesser capable men but no worry since victory is secured. Jon is heir and takes Dani as his Queen
@@Waxer2200"mad king is dead, rhaegar lies beneath the ground, why weren't you there to protect your prince?"
The whole dude stabbing Dayne in the back thing really isn't a big deal nor a stain on Ned's honor. The gripe against Jamie stabbing the mad king in the back isn't so much about the actual stab in the back physically. It was the fact that Ned and Robert put their life on the line leading a rebellion against the mad king and Jamie and the Lannisters only turned on the Mad King when the Rebellion was beatinhg down the gates of the Red Keep. Jamie and the Lannisters fought for the Mad King until the very last second when they knew the rebellion was going to win and they would probably be on the chopping block.
Arthur Dane: the enemy outnumbered us a paltry 4 to 1.
Heard the story a thousand times doesn’t mean Ned said it. If 6 on 2 is ok how is from behind not? Ned gave final blow and held is own at young age vs best ever.
I can't be the only one who thinks the kingsguard were wrong, a man came asking for his sister who he believes was kidnapped and y'all pull your swords. At least allow him to see her first, if he wants to take the child to Robert then you fight. You can't fault a man for looking for his sister
it's not about taking Jon to Robert, they were protecting their prince's birthright to the throne, which they knew for sure Ned wouldn't support as him and half the realm joined up to overthrow the Targaryens
Well if my classmate came to my house with five more or them and asked me for a pencil looking me the way Ned was looking Arthur I would’ve suspicious about them triying to do something too
Everyone there knew it was time to square up. Especially when Ned showed up talking shit.
@@natebaxter9551 all I'm saying is that they should have allowed him see his sister. If I was in his shoe I would do exactly what Ned did.
There’s nothing that said Ned wouldn’t do to Jon what was done to Rhaegars other children, why they fought makes sense it’s just we know that Ned would have never harmed Jon
It would have been better if it were a reversal of the Jaime/Ned fight... Reed stabs him in the leg from behind and Ned finishes him off, instead of like Jaime who stopped fighting when Ned was stabbed in the leg from behind. I just dont think this fits with the story. We know Ned was a man of honor, he would not have claimed to have killed Dane if this was the way it happened. He would give the "credit" to Reed.
И он на самом деле отдал должное . Просто если бы он рассказал правдивую историю то начнут идти вопросы . А потом кто-то догадается что Джон это Эйгон Таргареен то Роберт просто убьет его . Я думаю что Дейны знали о произошедшем ведь Нед вернул им фамильный меч и ненадолго задержался в их владениях . А так как Дейны дорнийцы которые в прямом смысле являлись самыми верными союзниками Таргареенов они бы не стали разглашать секрет Джона .
In truth, Ned never claimed to have beaten Arthur dayne. He probably said that he killed him, which this flashback shows that to be true, and people who loved telling stories probably just started spinning imaginary tales of an epic 1v1 fight where Ned came out on top and he never bothered to tell the whole truth. He did tell his children that he only survived this fight because of howland reed
My only gripe, Ned never told his kids he beat Ser Arthur Dayne. In fact, he admitted that Dayne would have killed him if not for Howland Reed.
Yea but Reed never spoke of what happened up there, and everyone knew there had been a showdown that only Ned and howland returned from, so stories got told and of course the story involved Ned "defeating" Arthur in single combat. Ned just didn't deny the stories so pretty much everyone but Jamie Lannister believed the stories told by people who weren't there
funny how must people think to "have 2 sword is unfair", when in realty is the most nosense thing to do XD
True using two swords is a completely different fighting style with a different type of skill, quantity doesn't make a difference
@@franingegnieri1831 no man, in reality use 2 sword equivale to trolling ❤️
yeah, wielding 2 swords is even more difficult than 1 sword tbh
Far better lol
The guy from movie fusion sums up what's wrong with today's young men in a single sentence. he said "who cares about honor though as long as you win"
Who cares about honor, ? In a sword duel ? I was raised that my honor is the one thing that can't be taken away from me by force... I'd have to choose to give it away by my own actions, to lose it. Once you've done that it's so hard to get it back.
So much for a man of honor 😂 starks are the most hypocrite clan
That's cute. War is war. You win when your opponent is dead
@natebaxter9551 but not claiming himself as a noble man of honor after doing this shit and not telling world I defeated Arthur dayne. Tell them the exact story but yk all starks sucks.
@avnisheditz7150 man, please. War isn't a joust or tournament. It's kill or be killed. And Ned made it very clear how he got down. Dayne died by the sword like a proper soldier and Ned showed respect to the family after. Real honor doesn't look pretty. Ned and Jon were the only ones that actually understood that.
@@natebaxter9551 dude yapped he plans to cersei like he is strongest, all that coward can just take credits and L
Nah Ned grandstanding for Robert after he gloated about Elia Martell being raped & murdered and what happened to Rhaegars other children prove Ned wasn’t the honourable guy he pretended to be way more than this duel
Not sure who the first two people are but they got that far in the show and were dumb enough to think that was Casterly Rock? Wtf?
Do yourselfs a favor and read the book passage on this
This is not fair fight 😒
Ned stark 💩 cheating
This is the Greatest fight in the whole damm show !ser Arthur Dayne does himself and bangg 🔥
@Gamingbeast_rrned didn't cheat, but he didn't "defeat" arthur dayne neither
Fraud Stark