How To Setup a Personal Watercolor Palette
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- Using tube paints to create a personalized watercolor palette is a great way to streamline your creative process and you’ll only have to purchase the paints you plan to use. In this video we’ll talk about the color wheel, how to choose the paint colors for your own palette and how to properly set up your palette. Take the next step in your watercolor journey!
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Hey friends! In this video I am using the Sennelier Series One. Have you used? How did you like it? I'll be purchasing a dozen Daniel Smith colors next, so if you like those, comment and give your opinion!
Also, do you mix with white?? As you know, I believe you should do what works for you! No one can tell you you're wrong. I'd love to hear what you like best for your art practice. 😘
I LOVE Daniel Smith. I bought a couple of the premade sets as I didnt know what I wanted. I really like the more granular mineraly ones. I love the textures. And some have a very subtle sparkle.
Sometimes I do mix with white. I also use gouache with my watercolor. I do what I want. No rules 😅. But it is never as crisp as the paper standing out on it's own. I am still learning. And experimenting.
Sennelier paint uses a different "binder," so they tend to stay somewhat sticky. Even though they're a top-name brand, I don't care for them.
I LOVE Daniel Smith paints, though, and I'm excited that you're using them next! What colors will you get??? I've only found one color that seems to have a pretty faint color saturation; with all the others, a tiny bit goes a long way, and yet they can be faded down from their vividness to a pale, sheer wash that is still clearly the color instead of just being an "idea" of the color. 😉
@@LaLa_ArtGal well said! I'm excited to try! I'll likely stick with similar colors to the ones I chose here
I’m also subscribed to Liron. I don’t know if you know him, but he mentioned before in one of his videos that he hates Sennelier. It’s true that it is expensive even here in the Philippines, but it has a poor quality. By the way, Shayda, I’m using Mungyo professional watercolor pan set because I always see that in most of your videos and it’s a good set. 😊 Thank you for sharing a good watercolor reviews and tutorials. I’m also using Shinhan PWC, another Korean brand, because Mungyo doesn’t have sepia. Shinhan PWC has also a good quality.
The paints you bought are not "student" quality, you got Sennelier's professional/fine arts range of paint. However, it's quite clear that you didn't actually know what you were buying. That the paints don't meet your expectations doesn't reflect the quality of the paints, but rather your misplaced expectations. Sennelier is specifically known for being good for layering, for glazing - you use them when you're going to work in layers and build up your colour intensity and vibrancy very gradually. That's a feature, not a bug. On that topic: Sennelier L'aquarelle does not, in fact, use fillers.
There was nothing wrong with the consistency of the paint you showed when filling your palette - it looked perfectly normal. The thickness of the fresh paint has nothing to do with quality. Honey-based watercolors like Sennelier often have a runnier consistenty and often don't ever try completely in the pan, depending on your climate (M Graham is notorious for this). I've tried a lot of fine arts quality brands and I've never yet come across a tube that's firmer than toothpaste. That would certainly not be a marker of quality - it'd be quite odd and unusual to have tube paint that thick tbh.
So, yeah, I get that you're disappointed - you bought an expensive set of paints that don't suit your art style. But if you buy watercolor paper and use alcohol markers on it, you can't blame the paper for being unsuitable for marker work. Same thing here. Sennelier is probably the last brand of fine arts quality paint you should've looked at, it's just not made to do what you want it to do.
Also: "series 1" means that these are the least expensive paints in the range. That price is based on how expensive the pigments themselves are, it too has nothing to do with quality. And you didn't have only series 1 paints here, some of these were definitely in higher price ranges. The higher the series, the more expensive a tube or pan of that paint will be. There's nothing wrong with buying pans - most fine arts paints come in both tubes and pans. Though tubes tend to be more economical if you're going to use a lot of paint, but this grade of paint is generally very concentrated - it'll take you a while to work through a pan anyway, and it might be worth buying half pans just so you can spend less money upfront before you know if you'll like the paints.
Anyway. I'd suggest you try something like White Nights - they're good quality for a low price. I have very limited experience with their tube paints, but their pans are great and should suit your needs quite well at a much more affordable cost.
This is the one and only video that has upset me enough to unsubscribe. Mostly because of the sheer stupidity and asinine comments. I think she should delete this video altogether. It's offensive and ignorant. That said, thank you for putting so much thought in this post, it's everything I wanted to say but was incapable because of my fury. I'm furious about it because new or budding artists listen to creators which puts the responsibility for the creator to know what the hell they're talking about and not give ridiculous advise because they won't bother to educate themselves.
@@ChristinaTodd1970 Im fairly new to watercolor. I use sennelier....I think her comments is not accurate.....
I understand if she didn’t like them, but spreading totally incorrect information that she could have read from the packaging is irresponsible to her viewers. They are professional quality and use honey not chalky binders. That’s very basic information that’s important to know before you invest in watercolors, even for hobbyists, but especially if you make instructional watercolor videos. You can give an honest opinion, but you’re factual information should at least be accurate. Some who blindly follow her advice will be missing out on a great brand that might be perfect for them. I used to watch her. and came across a video of hers, and couldn’t remember why I stopped watching. This video speaks volumes.
Wow! This is a shocker! I don't know what you expected, but Sennelier are some of the best watercolour paints on the market! It's a sign of great quality that they are translucent! Botanical artists like Billy Showell ONLY use Sennelier.
The only reason watercolourists may stay away from them is because they contain honey (so not vegan) and that also (kind of) excludes them from use in travel pallettes because they stay moist for long. Because of this ingredient they rewet very easily which is also a sign of good quality. However, and I agree with you, if you are not a serious watercolourist and just use a little paint here or there in your journal, a cheap cake paint is all you'll ever need.
You will always have to spend big bucks on good watercolours if you intend to sell and hang your pieces. I use Schmincke as well as Sennelier and Daniel Smith (some Winsor&Newton, Holbein), DS being the most expensive for me since I am in Europe.
TLDW: She bought an artist quality paint known specifically for layering and that doesn't fit her style so she called them crap instead of just not conducive to her paint style. They contain honey not a bunch of filler which is the different consistency. Painting should be accessible but artist watercolor varies by brand for its strong suits so a quick 10 minute search beforehand would have prevented spending money on something you might not like.
Sennelier Watercolors are my favorites! It hit me a little bit in my stomach that you said these are crap. It's all personal preference.
I don’t feel they are crap. I like them very much🎨
@@marymccaslin1690 yes, they are excellent. The mungyo watercolors Shayda often uses are student grade. Perhaps a bit more experience with professional grade WC will reveal their superb qualities. When I began I used lots of student grade watercolors. What an eye opener when I switched to artist grade which are more vibrant and translucent as opposed to the opaque chalkiness of student grade paints.
She labeled them garbage as soon as they came out of the tube! She also had at least 2 student grade Cotman in this mix which I never liked. They were chalkier and harder to activate than Prang.
“Garbage” before she even put a paint brush in them made her look bad instead of these professional and quality paints.
I hope she’s done a redo and apologized. I liked her videos, but this was weirdly disappointing and felt somewhat inappropriate judging.
I am a Sennelier user. I have been using watercolor for over 10 years. Not an expert, but I hope my observations add to the dialogue. I am a fan and a subscriber- I love your drawing tutorials for simple botanicals.
My palette includes Sennelier, Daniel Smith, Van Gogh, and Windsor Newton.
Daniel Smith (and Qor, from what I read) are intensely pigmented watercolors. Sennelier are paints that are highly pigmented- but in a formula that is low-granulating and transparent . Painting realistic effects in watercolor requires transparency for blending.
I know you aren’t interested in a “deep dive” on pigments, but if you dont learn properties of some, you will be frustrated. For instance, Yellow ochre is always semi-opaque. Opera Rose is never going to be permanent. Quins will generally be transparent and hyper-vivid.
If you know your painting style needs strong pigments, because you dont work in more than one layer, Daniel Smith, Qor, and Schmincke are terrific brands for artist grade. But they arent inexpensive. If you love delicate or sheer applications (especially for fruits/botanicals) the blending and gorgeous transparency of Sennelier is unbeatable.
It is confusing tho to see you announce that you dont care to know about pigments or formulas.... and then paste “these are crap” about a reliable brand... when you havent taken time to figure out if that style of paint is a good fit for your work.
I’ve learned so much from you, I hope you can take the time to take in feedback from some of these comments. Your followers want to see you keep succeeding, and being a credible voice in their art journey.
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Exactly my thoughts. Personally I don't record pigments in my watercolor swatches but I understand the necessity of knowing what you are working with. Most art supply reviewers use the product for several projects before posting a video.
I totally agree with you! It’s so important to understand pigments and you can’t call crap a beautiful and very loved, high grade paints like Sennelier. You just need to do a research before buying new art supplies.
I will buy Winsor newton .
I convinced myself to finish watching the video expecting to learn why the Sennelier paints were crap. Unfortunately the reason I only was able to note was that because they're 'liquidy'. Does it make less 'liquidy' paints higher in quality then? I don't think so, as a good watercolor paint is mainly determined in its texture and reaction on paper, it's mixability, transparency and color payoff, and personally, also lightfastness. All these are check in Sennelier. That was what I was able to prove after 3 years of using it. Just for the information of other artists watching this, please be informed that Sennelier are honey based that's why theyre really moist and 'liquidy', just like MGraham. This keeps the paints moist even when kept for a long time. Also, Sennelier Aquarelle, the one in this video is an artist grade line. The student grade version of Sennelier is called La Petite. I have tried using atleast 40 watercolor brands, 27 of which are artist grade and i can say that Sennelier is one of the best, securing its spot in the Top5 along with Daniel Smith, MGraham and Schmincke. Well, we all have our own opinions, but when we give strong statements it is atleast better to give a more experience-based and technical reason.
There is a reason that the technical aspects of watercolour are important...it’s not geeky to understand the medium you are working with - sennelier series 1 does not mean student grade - some pigments are more expensive than others and thus, brands (including other high end artist paints) separate their artists quality paints into series’ - it does not denote the quality of the paint, but the price of the pigment being used. This is why it’s important to understand the technical aspects of watercolour.
Sennelier artists paints are some of the best paints on the market - I’m honestly surprised that someone who spends so much time painting with watercolour, wouldn’t already know this - almost like you’ve never heard of Sennelier before you bought them?
If you look up Billy Showell, who is an exceptional botanical artist, she uses almost entirely Sennelier watercolours and does so because they are beautifully transparent and allow for glazing.
I think for your style of painting, you are probably looking for highly pigmented paints that are instantly intense right off the bat, and for that perhaps Mission Gold by Mijello might be more your preference.
I just think this came off really tone deaf - you had a small dig at artists who spend the time to really understand their mediums and then went on to absolutely slate these paints, branding them crap and garbage and it just proved why knowing the technical aspects of paint is really very important.
I agree: That’s the difference between a hobbyist/crafter and a fine artist.
I agree! It's actually really insulting to think you don't need to know the very basics before being so bold as to make a darn tutorial video. What are you teaching anyone if you haven't bothered to learn anything yourself?
I completely agree. It annoys me to see people blithely dismiss technical aspects of watercolor as irrelevant when they have so much to teach us about how paints behave.
You need to look it up. Vincent Van Gogh used Sennelier paint over 100 years ago. It was ok for him.
They also made paint for Picasso.
I think this is the best comment of all hahahahaha
This comment made me literally LOL!!
There actually isn’t anything wrong with sennelier paints and they are highly regarded as brilliant quality paints and all of the ones you got are from their artist grade line (their student grade paints don’t come in tubes) ... these paints are highly regarded by botanical painters as they are amazing for glazing and lots of layering ...
they can appear to be a little unsaturated or dull if your only planning to use them in only one or two layers on a painting ... knowing what your style is I just think these paints were the wrong fit for you ... but that doesn’t make them bad quality or terrible paints ...
I also wouldn’t suggest them as a brand for newer artists (which I know is not you) as they can be a little trickier to handle ...
Also the series doesn’t denote the level of quality in the paints but it depicts which pigments are more expensive than others ... so true cadmiums and cobalts are more expensive pigments than say the pthalo’s or ultramarine pigments and you’ll notice this across the board over different brands of paint
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You will probably find the Daniel smith paints are more to your liking due to your style of painting (which is wonderful by the way I love watching your videos)
Anyway I hope this helps to clarify some things and it might be an idea to check for other reviews of paints before purchasing ... I watched lots of different reviews of brands of paints before deciding what paints to purchase when I started out and it really helped!
I agree. Different paints are better in certain situations. I have several brands in my collection. They all work well together, but have their individual strengths. I like the superior transparency of the Sennelier for glazing over a spot that I want to adjust in colour when it has dried differently than expected. I’m not an experienced painter and being able to improve a colour without it looking overworked is very beneficial.
Agree with all your info, mina. I use Daniel Smith for most applications because I love the granulation and pigment load for landscapes, but I recently learned to use Sennelier yellows for transparent glazing to add a glow and light to my watercolors. Fortunately, Sennelier is less expensive than most artist watercolors even here in the States, so is an economical upgrade from student paints, but it can require an adjustment in how to use them.
I agree. Small correction though: La Petite Aquarelle definite comes in tubes. Idk how easily available they are in North American, but they're very easily available here in Europe :)
@@FaerieDust ah that’s interesting ... I’m in the uk and I’ve never seen them available in tubes here and online I’ve never heard anyone mention this which is why I assumed it wasn’t available that way
@@MinaDoesArtStuff Huh, I didn't realize they weren't available in the UK - they're pretty much the first thing that shows up for me when I search for them (I'm in Sweden). I don't think I've seen them open stock though, just in sets.
I was really surprised (and kinda hurt) by this video. I’ve put a lot of effort into creating a palette I love and Sennelier is the brand that brings me the most joy. To see you trash them without understanding their properties and then dismiss people who do their research is kind of the opposite of making art accessible and inclusive. The funny thing is that I spent almost a year putting this palette together so that every color will blend nicely and I can follow along with your videos. It’s one thing to say that they didn’t work for you. It’s another thing to get your facts wrong (like whether the line you’re using is student or professional grade) and call something crap.
It also looked like you didn’t even swatch your colors or try to blend them together before you put them in your palette. It appears that you’re suggesting that you should just buy paint based on the color of the label. Some of the colors you chose, like Violet Bleu 903, are *meant* to be ultra transparent and used for glazing. If you’d chosen Dioxazine Purple 917 instead, you’d have found that it’s incredibly pigmented and plays really well with other colors.
Here’s the palette I refined and works really well with your style. I can mix all of these together and they create beautiful and organic colors for florals.
Lemon Yellow 501
Indian Yellow 517
Quinacridone Gold 599
Scarlet Lake (Winsor & Newton)
Rose Madder Lake 690
Helios Purple 671
Quinacridone Violet (Winsor & Newton)
Phthalo Green Light 805
Olive Green 813
Phthalo Turquoise 341
Indigo 308
Dioxazine Purple 917
Transparent Brown 435
Payne’s Grey 703
This palette is transparent so I can see lots of layering which works really well for my personal style. But when I do want to make something in this palette more opaque, I use Shell Pink W226 from Holbein. The slight pink tone is especially gorgeous for botanicals.
I hope you give Sennelier another try. Or at least consider the artists who love working with it in your future videos.
I, too, love Sennelier w/c - thanks for sharing your palette here.
I loved seeing your color choices, Andrea. Thanks for sharing that. I only have one tube of Sennelier but want to try more. There was one thing in the video that I agreed with - they are pricey. So, getting a set of 12 would be like hitting the jackpot.
Happy to help! I was very fortunate that my family chipped in to buy me the full 98 set for my birthday this year. I was able to find it on a super sale and my husband snatched it up. Best. Present. Ever. :)
I’ve found tremendous joy working with the colors and swatching them out. Many of them are not pigmented at all, like 903 that I mentioned above. Personally, I don’t like those ones. I can water down 917 to get pretty darn close to 903 and glaze using that. It won’t have the signature luminosity of Sennelier, but the difference is pretty minimal from my perspective so it’s not worth it for me to get both. Now that I know what I like, I can paint with lots of confidence and pick up just these tubes when I find them on sale.
@@andreagoulet6989 I also got the 98 set for really cheap. I like Brown green and Greenish umber for mixing greens. I use Yellow lake as a warm yellow.
@@Werumo I really like Yellow Lake, too! It’s gorgeous, highly pigmented and transparent. I ended up going with Indian Yellow instead because it has a slightly cooler tone. I thought Yellow Lake had more of an orange undertone that felt similar to the Quin Gold I wanted to use.
As a subscriber and patron, I am a bit disappointed. It is perfectly okay for not liking Sennelier, as we all have personal preferences. However, stating that this brand is a student grade, has lots of fillers, creates misinformation to this channel’s large audience though, which is not fair to this reputable artist quality brand. I love your channel, and I sincerely hope you are willing to correct this misinformation 🙏🏻.
One thing I did when I got my first tube paints, and I regretted it, was filling up soooooo much paint in my palettes. Especially as a beginner, you can assume you will change your mind, or add more paints to your collection. I don’t recommend filling those wells with so much paint. A dollop’ll do, then it won’t be such a hassle if you want to move things around.
Gotta agree with other commenters; the review of sennelier was pretty harsh. They’re good paints! As with anything, certain brands don’t fit every artist’s workflow.
She did a lot of mistakes, filling up the palette so much was just one of them: she should have searched for more informations before buying, then buying only one tube to try before committing to such an expense, but then once she had all those tubes she could have try a couple of them before squeezing half tube of every tube in the palette, so once she understood that she didn't like them she could have returned the new ones and sell the ones she tried as slightly used... But more than everything she should not have talk shit about something she is admittedly ignorant about.
(Sorry for my english)
Also, i understand she's pissed for the money she thinks she wasted, but that is not sennelier fault, that's totally her fault.
She has a huge audience who trust her, from that comes a responsibility she didn't care of.
I am just starting to paint and am no expert by any means, I look up to videos posted by people like you so I can learn more.
However, if I am just to comment on how you reviewed the product, I don’t feel that you did that at all. You basically just said they’re crap even right from the get go. I watched a 20 min long video, and still did not get anything constructive as to why you did not like these paints. I only remember you comparing them to toothpaste, and how they should not come out easily out of the tubes because if they do that means they’re crap. I have no idea what that even means; you didn’t really explain why, maybe it’s because like you said, you don’t bother to learn the language.
I don’t think you should buy the Daniel Smith watercolor and review them next in a video. I don’t think anybody will learn anything from your review anyways because you don’t critique, you just go by what works for you. I think you have forgotten that what may not work for you, might work for other people and vice versa, thus why people watch product reviews. Your other videos and tutorials are great because you’re teaching what works for you and it might be something that could work for us. Stick to that, please no more product reviews.
Watercolors that are thick as toothpaste often contain a lot of fillers and are lesser quality. Watercolors like sennelier and schmincke are very liquid and they have a high concentration of pigments. Daniel smith consistency depends on the tube but they are amazing paints also, a little more dense but never like toothpaste, more like pudding. Sennelier uses honey in their formula to make them more "elastic" and they are mostly transparent because they are meant for layering.
She did, in fact, have professional watercolors. And the series 1 she said that means are student grade in reality means that they are pigments that are more affordable and easily available. Every professional watercolor brand divides their pigments in series from 1 to 4 or 5 and each one is more expensive.
I like Shayda’s style of watercolor and the effort she puts into her tutorials, but I was taken aback by her review. Wow!! When I want reviews from professional artists, I’ll stick with the tried and true ones: Steve Mitchell, Lindsay Weirich, Louise De Masi, Angela Fehr, and Paintinghyun.
“La Petite Aquarelle are the student quality Laquarelle are artists quality, I love these paints, and have been painting professionally for nearly 30 years now, these are up there with the best x
1. "Series 1" means price grade of used pigment. Series 1 for cheap (easy to find, easy to produce) Phtalo, Earth and another organic pigments, Series 2 and higher for more expensive and rare pigments like minerals/irons. Nothing about student/artist range. Student series from Senellier is named "La Petite Aquarelle"
2. All your greens are made from 2 or 3 pigments, if you mix them with another paint which contains 2 or 3 pigments -- you can get dirty or dull colors. Try not to mix them.
3. Prussian blue PB27 is not stable pigment and it change hue and lightness very much wet/dry and also it is not lightfast. Phtalo blue is preferable
4. Honey based paint is more liquid, it is very normal for them. And also they behave little different, you need time get used to it
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing
Great info. Thank you!
@Olga Stjarna is there a place to check which pigments are "stable"? Does it matter only with watercolors?
@@MeiUsami internet knows it all :) you can start google from “lightfastness”
i love your channel but i feel like you put a lot of misleading information in this video. you said “a lot of tube paints come out firmer than toothpaste” which is not true. the consistency of tube paint will and should vary because professional paints , like sennelier, schmincke, daniel smith, etc. use different recipes for different colors and they use different binders. sennelier uses honey as an additive in their paint (which causes them to take longer to dry because the honey is supposed to keep them wet but also makes it easier to rewet them , which they clearly did fine in your footage) so they sometimes come out more fluid. schmincke has the most liquid tube paint i’ve ever used and it’s one of the best brands out there. consistency means nothing. that was misleading. you were disappointed by great quality paint because you’ve never used professional quality paint. if you’re used to the immediate color payoff of bright cheap paints , you aren’t going to react well to professional paint. you can go and get daniel smith and you’ll feel the same way. you’ve also probably never used granulating watercolor before so you may wanna read up on that so you know what it is when you get daniel smith because they’re the most popular brand for granulating paint. senneliers claim to fame is layering and glazing , something that isn’t hard to find about them. i’m just disappointed in this video because i feel like you missed a lot of things that aren’t difficult to find out and then made a super misleading video about it to a large audience. if you like using cheap paints because you like the immediate bright color payoff that’s fine ! go for it ! but don’t expect the same thing out of high quality paints and then give a really shitty “review” when they act the way they’re supposed to. obviously you’re entitled to your own opinion , but in this video you relay facts that aren’t correct , so that’s just my issue.
Yes! Esp since she kept harping on how u dont need to know anything about art to paint, clearly from this video we can all see that a little knowledge or a willingness to reseach and learn will go a long way. This video should be removed.
Honey is not actually the binder. Gum Arabic is the binder. Honey is an additive to preserve the paints and keep them moist. It is hygroscopic--attracts water.
@@jenthulhu i didn’t know that ! i’ve always heard it referred to as the binder like in m graham as well , thanks for letting me know ! i’ll change it in my comment
@@lyviajeanie No worries! It's a common thing that people say. Gum Arabic is going to be the binder for every professional brand of watercolor except for Qor. Qor uses something new--aquazol. But every brand has a unique recipe/formula. Lukas paints, for example doesn't use honey--they use some kind of sugar.
And most brands also use ox gall to create dispersion and flow in water. But some brands use other things. Qor uses some sort of synthetic ox gall that their chemists came up with. Lukas uses wetting agents instead making it a completely vegan watercolor (few are).
I thought this video was so offensive and ignorant that I no longer trust a thing she says. Everyone's being so nice about such a huge screw up
I’m with the others on this - Sennelier is actually a good line of watercolors, certainly good enough to sit next to W&N artist grade and definitely better than the W&N Cotman line. This simply sounds like a user error situation, at the very least - usability preference. -especially since their lightfastness is comparable to the a/g brands like Daniel Smith & the like. I couldn’t even continue watching this.
Same here. After the statement that Sennelier is crap I stopped watching.
Like I totally get the prior comments about the actual cheap knock offs and really low end brands - but saying an expensive brand isn’t worth it because one couldn’t get it to work right is the real crap. The different high end brands take getting used to because they have characteristics differing from low end brands, just like introducing yourself to, say, a new brush brand.
Telling people to “not buy these paints” in the title is misleading and the real crap. People shouldn’t “just buy” some brands because of content creators saying they should - Sennelier can be purchased if you’re ready for them! = a commission that needs better lightfastness, need better & stronger pigments, etc. It’s really sad if content creators we like are going to fall into that disgusting trend of wording titles like clickbait. Sad.
@@CarolineRosenthal me too! Very unprofessional and shocking coming from that sweet voice.
Having used Sennelier, they are definitely Artist grade, not Student Grade ones. They stand tall with other big guns in the market and having used them, I definitely love them. Except for the fact that my Cerulean Blue did squirt lots and lots of oil when I opened up my first tube (which took more than a week to dry up and still gets droopy in my half pans). Apart from it, I've thoroughly enjoyed their Helios Purple and Rose Madder Lake.
Cerulean is a cobalt pigment, so it's on the heavier side. It's not super uncommon for those to separate from the binder while in the tube. Next time that happens, you can stick a toothpick in the tube and give it a good stir - your paint should be good as new once it's been mixed back together :)
@@FaerieDust thanks for the help :)
That's probably gum arabic that squirted out, but I've had that happen with cerulean blue and cobalt paints from other brands. It's probably a result of the pigments.
That is wild because I LOVE the Sennelier paint. Not nearly as chalky as cheap paint, and a great option to compliment my favorite granulating colors!
My personal favorite is Schmincke and Sennelier, but I would recommend mission gold watercolors to you. They are vibrant right out of the tube or re-wetting without the need to glaze in multiple layers (like Sennelier.) They are more on the affordable-ish end, there is little to no granulation (smooth appearance,) and there is little pigment spread that happens when you lay down the paint (less blooming.) This may fit your style of painting more than the Sennelier brand!
You are totally right! If you love using white--use it! Make your art practice pleasurable and don't focus on rules. I love how you say: do what works for you! I love the subjects you teach that are so beautiful and make art accessible for everyone. Your approach is so wonderful and such a pleasure to watch.
I'm sorry that you're intimidated by all of us nerding out about pigment numbers. I can totally understand why--it's daunting! And I remember my own bewilderment at first. But keep in mind that many of us want to learn those distinctions so that we know what we're buying--and that we can be assured that the pigments we choose to use are lightfast. If you don't care about lightfastness, that's fine! There's nothing wrong with that! Just like there's nothing wrong with wanting to learn pigment numbers and names. As you say so often--you do you.
That said, Sennelier is most certainly NOT craft quality or crap. This is one of the most beloved professional watercolor paints in the world. And that's why you're seeing so much blowback in your comments.
First of all: Series 1 is a pricing category, not a range or a set. These paints are "liquidy" because they need to flow out of a tube. They also contain honey--which is hygroscopic--a fancy word that means that honey attracts water. Sennelier paints are not intended to dry to hard bricks. They remain moist, and rewet at the touch of a brush.
And 24 hours is not long enough to let a honey-based paint dry out, if you want to use it from a dry format. The humongous amount that you squirted out will take quite a long time to dry out! I can't even imagine how long. But when they finally are mostly dry they will be more concentrated like you want them to be. There is NO filler in Sennelier paints. They are transparent and luminous and wonderful. I just bought a tube to add to my collection this week.
I did not expect this from you. I enjoy your watercolor videos so much and never judged the fact that you used Mungyo paints which are actually not lightfast at all--and will not hold up over time. That's totally valid if you only paint in sketchbooks or in bullet journals. But if you want to paint artwork to sell, it behooves one to make sure the paint doesn't fade. In my case, I'm not currently selling any artwork--but I want my children to be able to hang up my work and enjoy it for many years to come.
If you want to learn about pigments and paint properties I highly recommend Kimberly Crick's youtube channel. She presents reviews of ranges and pigments in a teacherly way that is fun and easy to watch!
Denise Soden of In Liquid Color
Eve Bolt - Bolts Volt
Jane Blundell
Dr Oto Kano
Lindsey the Frugal crafter
So many others
@@THEMAYQUEEN1 Agreed! Those are all great channels too! I watch them all. Total pigment nerd. I'm a collector. :D
@@jenthulhu oh me too lol
As someone with a big Public forum it’s really disappointing to hear You tarnish a well loved fantastic quality product and brand as “crap” when what I think you meant was that they didn’t work for you.
It’s important as an artist to identify what
You’re going to be using the product for and what Your art style is. Sennelier watercolours are beautiful paints and although they may not work for you doesn’t make them crap or awful.
Just ensure you do the correct research that’s applicable to your art style. I love your channel, but as someone who doesn’t like following rules and doing their own thing it was actually quite upsetting hearing you calling a product crap when it’s clear you’ve not put the work in to research their formulas or anything about the brand.
I watched this video because I was curious about which crap brand you had picked up. I thought maybe cotman, or grumbacher student range... But I was absolutely SHOCKED when you laid out your Sennelier tubes. Seriously. I can’t imagine shelling out $100 on paints without even doing the most basic of research. Other commenters have said it all, so I won’t go over the information again. Sennelier are amazingly high quality watercolours. Among the most prestigious in the world.
I will make a suggestion for you: buy a tube of paint from a few different brands to learn about their consistency. Buy the smallest tubes. Check them out. I think that you’re so used to craft quality paint, that you honestly don’t know what great paint should feel like.
But if you’re looking for really good colour payout and rewetability, smooth consistency, vibrant colours and good lightfastness, then the paint that will give you the best results are probably Van Gogh watercolours by Royal Talens. These are comparable to professional quality, but with only those pigments that don’t break the bank. Give them a try. You’ll like them.
But she doesn't want to take the time to educate herself. She said so
imagining having a surface level understanding of color theory and still giving paint brands recommendations to a massive audience is terrifying to me. i would feel disrespectful to them.
You will never be able to close your palette. Honey based paints don’t dry fully and you have put too much paint in the wells. Sennelier are professional grade paints. They are not garbage or crap. You are just inexperienced with professional grade paints. Perhaps practice with them after doing some research and watching paint reviews. Children’s cake paints may be cheap but they are crap.
Here is a video with good advice th-cam.com/video/F-wkzt94-OA/w-d-xo.html about paints.
Really shocked that you consider Sennelier "student quality" or "crap." They aren't my favorite, but they are really high quality paints. They shine more intensely, when glazed, but floral painters all over the world have loved them for many decades.
Agree!!!
Although I understand your disappointment about this purchase, I do think you were very harsh in your dismissal of these paints. As others have said, they are very high quality artist grade paint. All paints are different, just like our painting styles are different, which is good! While these paints are just not for you it doesn’t mean at all that they are “crap” or “garbage”. I’ve got a few Sennelier half pans of the same quality and I love them. If you want more intense colours then try spraying them with water a few minutes before using them. And as a “colour nerd” myself I would of course recommend to listen to the experts, as this can save you from disappointment and from wasting a lot of money.
I feel like this palette despite being a "split primary" had not the best colours to begin with, it doesn't seem well balanced. Sennelier is a brand of high quality watercolours and I'm sorry you're not happy with them, but I have not seen any comment about what was so disapointing in them?
Also you do recommend the cheap set in comparison, does it perform and swatch nicer? Would have been nice to see.
Hi Lana 👋🏼. I hope you are well. I actually think the way she split her primaries is very good. It’s different, sure, but that’s why I like it; it gives us a different setup that we can try. I just have one piece of advise, especially for beginners, yellow ochre may dull down colours it is mixed with. If you like dulled down colours then no problem; however, if you want to maintain vibrancy, look for another warm yellow such as a Cadmium Yellow Deep or Indian yellow. You may also wish to consider paints made with the pigments PY110, PY65, or PO62. Also, note that cadmium pigments and cerulean are semi-opaque to opaque; if you do not like opaque pigments then select other pigments of the same colour.
This video is very disappointing in that you don't really say WHY you think they are crap. Sennelier is a peculiar brand, excellent for glazing techniques, and I wouldn't recommend them as your first professional paints. White Knights, Daniel Smith, QOR, etc might be better for you to try as your first professional brands. Especially if you are used to that Angora palette you show in the video. They have a MUCH different consistency, and are far more opaque and chalky... And I would also suggest you quit wasting your money on paints that you haven't researched rather than dismissing them as crap out of hand... And I say that as someone who sells art supplies, and wants to sell art supplies, and I am telling you, as a sales person, to stop wasting your money until you figure out what you want to get out of your paint, and then find the brand that suits you best. But I suppose you got what you wanted here, engagement with your channel. I clicked on your video, but not for the right reasons. EDIT: A "SERIES" of paint just differentiates the price tag. Series 4 are more expensive than Series 1 because it costs more to obtain or produce. Quality has nothing to do with series.
Sennelier paints are amazing. They are different from the cheap mungyo but they are absolutely not crap.
If you don’t want those Sennellier paints, please send them to me!
Gosh, I’m sorry you had a bad experience with these paints. I’ve not tried them myself, but have heard artists rave about them. The person who commented that these paints are all about the layering and glazing makes sense. Layering and glazing means fine art to me. I’ve done some and love the results, but it’s not for everyone. Some artists want to lay that color down bold with one brush stroke and move on, while others want to paint tiny sections and build up layers of color from there. Goes to show your right Shayda, if you like the effect go for it. It’s important to keep learning and refining a style that works for yourself. After beginning my watercolor journey nearly a year ago, and having worked in acrylics in the past, I’m finally understanding the importance of finding my own style. Blessings to you!
I love these paints! But, they are all about layers and glazes. These are not for the same styles as say Daniel Smith. Look at some other artists who master these.
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It’s good to know they’re different and handle so differently
Sounds like you should stick to your craft grade paints if that's what sparks joy.
Sennelier watercolors are excellent. They are bright and translucent making them perfect for botanical art. They are professional grade and I find the results I get with floral watercolors are beautiful. I think berating an art supply is not the way to approach it. Most product reviews discuss the specific characteristics of the paint such as brightness, light fastness, translucency/opaque qualities. Once you list the pros and cons as you see them then viewers can decide for themselves if the brand suits their needs.
For such a sweet lady as you are I was shocked to hear you call these excellent professional paints "crap." Sennelier watercolors are used worldwide by professional botanical artists.
I've never tried Sennelier, but I know they are professional grade. I've got W&N, and Daniel Smith, and a couple of Holbein. I think you probably just need to experiment more with them. You may change your mind about them later, and decide that you like them. Thanks for the video. BTW, if you should do a giveaway, as has been suggested, would LOVE to try those paints! LOVE it!
Sounds like user error. Maybe in future research product better before purchase rather than slamming a product because it doesn't work for your style🤷♀️ or maybe just say it doesn't work for you rather than being so harsh :/
Yikes 😳 I guess you don’t like Sennelier ARTIST grade watercolors. The student grade are called La Petit Aquarelle. Their tube paints are made with honey which I personally love. It does retard the paint from drying in your palette tho. I love that!. They are very transparent which is great if you are doing lots of layering. I don’t see you doing that so maybe that’s your issue. I love your tutorials so you just keep on using your little pans sets because they totally work for your style. Maybe some day you’ll change your mind about #sennelier.
You have a lot of influence and just because these paints didn't work for you doesn't mean you should say on your video title "do not buy these paints!"... Sennelier is top brand and revered by so many who couldn't otherwise afford them. You buying them for what I'm sure was a good amount of money and then being so dismissive about them because you can just shows your privilege... Not cool... Just being 100% honest...
Shayda, i dearly love your "let's just jump in and have fun without the fuss" attitude, but watercolors (specifically) are a lot more fun when you take a moment to get a few accurate basics down first. It's not a drag to learn the pigments if you start with a very few and slowly expand your understanding and experience. And as you've seen, you can also save hella money by learning a few things first. I'm no expert, maybe an expert at taking the most beginner level w/c classes ever LOL There's tons of books, in-person or online classes and yt tutorials on the basics that really help. The Senneliers are wonderful prof grade paints, as are Winsor Newton, Schmincke, Daniel Smith and many others. They are expensive because of their transparency and lightfastness, compared to student or even the super cheap craft paint cakes that you've been using. Though you got just about everything wrong here, i sympathize with your frustration. Start with a mixable small palette of half-pans, they are half the price or more of tubes. It takes a minute to learn how to mix w/c paints successfully. NOT all play nice together. And tubes aren't better than pans, just more economical if you're using larger quantities of paint. Daniel Smith has a nice little primary box of 5 (cakes or tubes) i think, that is relatively inexpensive, especially when on sale and/or with coupons. Mixing on the palette or on the paper, or laying down glazes are how many dif colors are made from a few pigments. The whole "white" w/c thing is about letting the white of the paper work for you while maintaining transparency. If you like the opaque look, that is cool, but just know that forever, for most people, the thing most valued about w/c is the transparency, and white paint is often just used for opaque touches. Otherwise you could just stick to chalky cheapo paints. Nothing wrong with that. It's not a rule, more of a tradition that honors the brilliant stained glass effect of w/c. Love you, girl.
It makes me sad because I love my Sennelier :(
Doesn’t change your love for it. 💕🌸
There's NOTHING wrong with Sennelier paints!
Don't be sad! Even if Sennelier were really a low quality paint (it's not, it's one of the most well regarded brands in the industry), if you like them you like them.
Sennelier is the nicest paint I've worked with? As an artist use what you enjoy. Reviews are nice but not the end all be all of what to buy.
As far as I know, Sennelier watercolors in tubes are best to be used fresh - straight from tubes. So perhaps you can try and test it like that :), they are quite vibrant in my opinion. Maybe you can find more info from
In Liquid Color TH-cam channel as Denise is amazing tutor :).
So dissapointed that an artist of your calibre is so misinformed in many ways. I’m a beginner and I even know about Sennelier, meaning of the series, pigments and such.
@@rakisk8r How is it unkind? As a reviewer, she has the responsibility of being informed and knowledgable about the medium she is working with and reviewing, which clearly she wasn't at least at the time of this video is published.
"I find it cringy to never use white like why?"
I find you're kinda cringe to spent freaking 100 bucks for paints you don't like without took time to research a bit about the watercolor's "nerdy stuff" and complaining that you just bought "crap/garbage" paint. I dislike cake watercolor because they're chalky and I didn't really learn any watercolor techniques when I used it before but I don't even call them crap/garbage
I agree with another commenter in that maybe you should do a giveaway. A lot of people in the comments seem to like Sennelier 😁😊
Sennelier paints are artist grade watercolors made w HONEY. They are transparent and wonderful for glazing. They are also a go to for many botanical artists. Before investing in any $$ art supply, do your homework.
I've been using the paints for years now and I actually love painting with them. But maybe that's just a personal thing
They could be a better quality! I'm using Series One. And if you love them, that's all that matters
@@ShaydaCampbell the series has nothing to do with quality smh
@@fusadiluna I do not mean to be argumentative but quality varies from batch to batch of probably all art supplies. There is an art to creating quality supplies and an art to create student grade supplies as well. This is true for yarn and threads and all kinds of creative supplies. I would respect any artist’s opinion of the supplies they are working with since it could easily vary from my experience with same supplies because we probably have a different batch product. This is also why when someone doesn’t like certain supplies I will still try them because my experience will not necessarily be like theirs. Not even every batch of bread I baked turns out truly exactly the same but close hopefully!
@@lisareid7043 yes, what you are saying is true, but when your channel has like three quarters of a million subscribers maybe you should take more information before telling everybody that a brand is crap all together
@@fusadiluna I didn’t hear what was said but you make an excellent point! We teachers learn something new almost every day too, if one is open to learning still. Thanks for your point of view I will definitely not forget how you felt about it and keep it in mind when teaching others
I haven’t ever used Sennelier paints so I’m not going to comment on that but I’d like to thank everyone for recommending Billy Showell in the comments, she’s wonderful!
Nope! Lost me on your review of Sennelier which are excellent, artist grade paints! If you are not accustomed to tube paints you may think this and if you are only painting greeting cards or hobby watercolors the set you showed at the beginning is fine, but if you want to produce artist quality, light-fast, non-fugitive watercolors, those sets ARE crap!
Quite disappointed in the misleading information here. There's nothing wrong with preferring one type of paint over another, especially when considering what you'll use it for.
But rather than "don't buy these!" It perhaps would be more effective to have a side by side comparison with the cheap paints you prefer, and point out the differences and why you have that preference. (The cheap paints you showed are also dye based, not pigment based - completely different.)
Sennelier is amazing for glazing and layering, and gentle build-up of color. If that's not your style, that's totally okay.
But I feel it would be more constructive to say "these are not ideal for my painting style" than to say "these are crap" - not everyone has the same preferences or painting styles.
But also the factual inaccuracies of this video make it especially upsetting. Series refers to price brackets. L'acquarelle paints are artist-grade, any do not contain fillers. They do contain honey (hence the rewettability/tackiness). These are amazing paints, you're just not using them in the setting where they can truly shine.
Also, hobbyists can be familiar with pigment information and paint details too. Understanding inherent qualities of a paint gives a person a better understanding of the capabilities of each paint they use. Such a phthalo being bright, transparent, and staining. Or earth tones being more opaque and granulating. Not being interested in these qualities is okay - but knowing them maximizes what you can do with a paint, and minimizes your frustration with it.
I can understand not being interested in those qualities, but - whether you intended to or not - you've come across as bashing professional artists (who do care about those things), hobbyist artists (who are presented as 'not in their league'), professional paints (who tote the specific characteristics of each paint - so you know what you're getting), and Sennelier (who you appear to say are crap literally after just a quick swatch).
I do hope you look into the qualities of the tools you are using even just a little bit, to better see what their strengths are - and invest in tools better suited to you. And stop bashing Sennelier needlessly and incorrectly.
And I agree with other commenters - perhaps, if you are that uninterested in working with these paints - a giveaway would be the best thing to do with them.
It’s really unfortunate how due to your own lack of research or even wanting to do the due diligence to understand pigments you would bash artist quality paints like this. I agree with other commenters that you will be disappointed when you don’t know what to expect. This is embarrassing Shayda, please do better.
she is giving her opinion based on her using the paints. I do not see what is wrong with that. If you disagree, move on... I respect her honesty. geez
Shayda, I don't understand something... You used sennelier colours, but you also threw in some two Cotman paints. Cotmans are the student grade paint from Winsor & Newton, L'aquarelle is the professional grade paint of a different brand.
I’m really happy about the comment section ! Sennelier is my favorite watercolor brand and I’ve used almost every artist brand you can find out there. I would NEVER say some of them are trash just because I don’t like them. Especially when we see what you usually use, I don’t think you’re in a good position to say this kind of things. I’m really disappointed because I love your content and style and I liked you. But making this kind of videos with so many false informations and so many errors, not only about the paint but in general is just a no no for me. Someone saying that they prefere Daniel Smith ? Okay, we all have different styles and preferences. But saying Sennelier (which is known to be one of the best) is trash when you’re used to use 5 bucks kids paint is like saying gastronomy is shit because you’re used to eat cheap fast food.
Sennelier is NOT student quality paint! I guess it's personal preference but I rate then right up there with all the big boys. Sennelier shines when using glazing, lots of water, lots of layers
They have a student range - le petite aquarelle - but the ones featured in the video are definitely the professional line.
I totally agree with everything else you said
Yes absolutely agree with you
I really love my set and always happy about how easy it is to rewet
I have a 24 half pan set, it was one of the first palettes I purchased when I started watercolor, back before I started buying tubes and using a well palette, and I still love them. They aren't my daily driver paints (M Graham and D.S.) but when I want something ethereal and delicate or plan on using tons of glazing I reach for my Sennelier.
It almost seems like you’ve invented the genre of “hobby art” as distinct from “fine art” to justify not making enough research. A really patronising implication too that hobbyists would be too folksy to learn shade names or take their craft seriously, when it’s evident your own viewers use more professional supplies than you do.
I agree with you 100%!
Sadly this kind of attitude is rampant in the crafter community and for all kinds of supplies. Quality is irrelevant, as is proper education. All they care about is that it's overly saturated, bordering on garish, and very cheap. No consideration for sourcing or composition or even quality control. It's very disappointing that so many of these women are such miserable and judgemental people, making snide comments about anyone and everyone who doesn't completely see things their misinformed way.
Shayda, I love your channel (am also a patron) and look forward to all of your videos. I have to be honest though in terms of your review of the Sennelier watercolour paints in that I absolutely love my Sennelier watercolours - they are very delicate, transparent and perfect for layering. Other folks have commented that they are made with honey which is true and it does give them a unique texture. I also use Holbein, Daniel Smith and Schmincke depending on what I'm painting. Perhaps give your Sennelier paints another try - they lend themselves beautifully to botanicals! Take care and thank you for sharing your lovely artwork with us!
I think the paints swatched relatively well. The first pallete shown with the cakes is dye based so ofc the colors will be a lot more vibrant and fun to work with but they dry chalky and are not light fast. But for "real" watercolors... they seemed fine for their price.
Senniler is an artist grade paint. They use honey in their paints which make it more moist and "liquid-y" as u so aptly put it. They will not fully dry like other paint brands or STUDENT paint brands. Please do not insult an amazing brand because of your ignorance. They are also more catered to a botanical artist or one that uses a lot of delicate glazes. You are clearly not educated enough to be diseminating information to new people in the art community.
They definitely do have a student line. Yes, sennelier artist grade itself is amazing but everyone is allowed to have their most and least favorites.
Very disappointing video, full of misinformation. It might be a good idea for anyone watching this to watch more videos about Sennelier, as they will definitely give you a better perspective on the paints.
Agreed! Really shocking to see this.
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I hope she will at least pin a comment like yours, Eve. To be honest, yours is one of those channels i look forward to gather information on paints before buying, doing so i never regret my art expenses.
I understand she is pissed for the money she thinks she wasted, but that's on her, not on Sennelier. She should have searched for more information before buying.
Also, she didn't care about the responsibility of such a big odience, she can totally harm an honest company with people working for them.
Sorry for my english, i needed to express my disappointment
@@fusadiluna Your English is fine. And you raise a very good point. There does need to be some balance, and fairness, in any review. And this one was not very fair, unfortunately
I agree this first time see someone called this brand watercolors paint student grade .I really think there beautiful and very bright.
If you really don't like these paints, maybe you can do a couple giveaways? One for the tube set and another for the pallet you made... to people who have commented on this video.
I came to comments to see if anyone else said this very thing. I personally like sennelier watercolor tubes myself. Since *SO* many people in the comments like them I too think a giveaway would be great. Hopefully she hadn't tossed them already 😔
You said you prefer cheaper stuff. That says it all. Cheap.
These don’t look like the student grade...? But maybe they’ve changed labels? student grade Sennelier is called “La Petite Aquarelle”. Even Sennelier professional is very well known for much softer and less vibrant colors.
Yes the la Petite is their student range these that she uses are professional grade.
Yes. These here are definitely artist grade
Nope, she's using the fine arts range. She just didn't know what she was buying, and blamed the paints for not meeting her expectations.
@@FaerieDust Exactly right.
Sennelier are wonderful paints! I am a big fan. They are artist quality not student grade.
QOR paints are also brilliant and exciting! Many of them have an amazing push and bloom. Well worth mixing for effect.
These are fabulous paints! They act differently from other brands like DS or W&N however. If you like to fuss with your wet paint on the paper, you’ll definitely be frustrated. These work best with lots of layers and glazes.
Also plastic pallets are super slick - it helps to scuff the surface up a bit with something abrasive like a Magic Eraser so your paint doesn’t pool when you mix.
You might already know this but if you want to try out different brands of watercolors without having to pay the expensive prices, there are now shops on Etsy and even EBay now that sell little mini quarter pans of many different brands for a fraction of the cost and you get to pick your colors. It works great for me because I am able to try different colors from several different brands to choose my favorite, without going broke. And an added bonus is something else I feel strongly about which is supporting small businesses, and even local ones at times. I hope this helps! Much Love and Respect from North Carolina, Stacy
Thank you so much Shayy! Lots of love from India...😊❤️✨💕
Love from Canada 💞💞
Where is the plastic pallette from? Looked for the supplies list on the blog but couldn't see one in the post 🤔
where did you get that paper dispenser on the back wall its super cute!?
New to watercolour - can you add more paint to your plastic palette case as you have slots that are empty or do you use this empty slots for mixing paints? Thanks.
Both!
I love sennelier paints and they are one of my favorites. They are different from the other brands because of how they are made but once I got used to them I fell in love. I absolutely love them for my floral paintings ❤️
I definitely love senneliers!!
It depends of your painting style,
It is mainly known for layering,
You can never overwork with sennelier,
And I think it’s a big plus until and unless you are not a botanical artist👍🏼
From the comments, it looks as if each company has a learning curve people need to work through for 'blending' into their style. I have painted a couple of pictures and have a lot to learn so most likely I'll learn to what ever cakes or tubes I bargain buy. Thank you for this pallet set up.
Hi i want to start watercolor painting and i would like to know your take on watercolor pencils..
Sennrlier are NOT crap student quality. They are very high quality paints with amazing luminosity. If you picked yours up online maybe you got a rip off brand
Imagine another big channel watching just a couple of your videos and making a video telling everybody that your channel is crap without taking the time to understand you and your artistic philosophy. That's exactly what you did here.
And I'm sorry because I love either your channel and Sennelier paints. You could have said you didn't like them, but not saying that they are "garbàge" all together, that's my opinion.
this isn't usually Shada's style. She is pregnant and that does weird stuff to your hormones. That's my opinion.
@@laurie3881 True, but it's no excuse for trashing a product revered by professional artists. Perhaps taking time to see what her comments sound like would have helped.
@@rnee1000 I'm giving Shayda a pass on this Renee. Thanks for your opinion though. It is always good to hear another side.
@@laurie3881 if we use hormones as an excuse ourselves, nothing would stop other to do so and picking a man over a woman for a job, just to make an example. I think we girls should never do that
@@fusadiluna I'm not really sure how to politely end this conversation, Marina. I understand your point of view, but I don't really want a philosophical discussion. As I said, I'm giving Shayda a pass on her review of the watercolours.
I really hope your able to play with them more and see what they can do. I'm sure they are able to fit in somewhere for you it took me a wile when I change paints. I just love my mijello and paul ruben paints but I'm struggling with my whitenights So I'm trying to get out of my comfort zone and see what I can do as well as my paints :)
Daniel Smith paint I find is good. I don’t buy expensive professional paint for most part. Since I do a lot flowers so lots pinks burgundy’s and coral colors. Thanks for sharing!
When the paints dry in the wells can u reactivate the paints with water? Amazon has very thick water color paper for about 23.00 Canadian 50 sheets
Yes you can!
What watercolors would you suggest? Love professional quality but expensive. Thanks for all you do! I really enjoy watching you paint, need do more painting myself.
I do have many Windsor and Newton watercolor paints that I like.
Your opinion and style of approaching the art process is 100% valid I will say, but misinformation is not. Just two things stand out to me with your review
1. Sennelier is NOT student grade. Their pigments, binder formula, production and quality testing are all on par with other professional brands. You can hate the paints to the moon and back, I know very good and knowledgeable artists who do. But they are not student grade, they have a student line already which I can tell you is actually student grade (and are not the best (-_-;))
2. Paints that pour out like water ≠ bad quality. I have paints that pour just like your tubes all the way to Daniel Smith's tigers eye genuine that will give you arthritis at 30 (no joke) They're all made with great quality pigments and binders so they're still artist quality. Artist quality won't mean that you'll like them, but it does mean that you didn't get ripped off or anything, it's just not your style.
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, just like you said, art shouldn't be complicated. If you want to know everything there is to know about paint then knock yourself out, and if you want to take it easy then go ahead, but please don't mistake ignorance for simplicity. Know what you're getting into, or at least try to (I'll still get duped by supplies even if I thought I knew how they worked >:/) I hope you have a nice day and this video doesn't case too many problems for you, you seem like you genuinely want to make painting more accessible to people who might be intimidated by the ridiculous amount of information that floats around constantly >.>
Great video on setting up palette 👍 but I do have to say that this brand of watercolors are meant (from what I’ve seen )to be layered or glazes and then they become more vibrant . So they are meant to be more translucent in color. I believe They have honey mixed into watercolors along with the binder. I know that Billy Showell uses them for her botanical art work, she layers a lot. They are professional grade they have a student line is called La petite in pans and tubes.
Good to know! Thanks for sharing!
I am a brand new watercolor student but I pride myself on a deep level of research. My instructor had us start with WN cotman because she didn't want us to have to spend alot of money as we are just starting. After doing some research I decided to purchase a variety of brands based on their single pigment sources, their lightfastness, their granulating levels, their ratio of pigment to binder and filler ingredients, etc. I wanted to do my own comparisons based on my own experience although I do appreciate the experience and opinions of others. I'm glad I did all this before watching this video.
What brand of inexpensive paints do you think are the best quality for the money for pan and tube paint. I'm taking a local class and they recommended Winsor Newton Professional or Daniel Smith tube paint. I did buy these, in limited colros, but Phew, expensive! So then I bought a couple Hobby Lobby "Premium" tubes for extra colors. I found that they were much more difficult to rewet after drying. So, I would really like some advice for reasonably priced, but decent quality paints. Thanks!
DS are expensive, and very good. Most rewet well.
Sennelier are not super expensive, but her info here isnt accurate. They are bright, but very sheer.
St Petersburg White Nights are very reasonable, and I am told good quality, some colors artist-grade in lightfastness.
Van Gogh are a high quality student grade- very affordable, concentrated. Not available Everywhere in the US, but I have at least 3 of their colors I wouldnt go without.
Cotman and Grumbacher are high quality student grade, ... I dislike them. Not vivid or sheer enough FOR Me- thats personal preference. White Nights seem better quality at a similar price point, if I were starting over with nothing, and a careful budget, it would be either White Nights or Van Gogh
Ppl are pretty good at posting ways to get decent supplies at a bargain. I wish you luck and hope you find paints you love! Look for sales, dont be afraid to try different brands- my palette has at least 5 😆
@@crowquillgal1016 , Thanks for your reply. Are all the paints you mentioned tube paints? I know they are supposed to be better but have have had fun using an old set of pan paints I got as a gift one time, but never used. I’m just starting out in watercolor. I do lots of work in acrylic.
@@suecallahan2764 hi Sue- I believe they are all available in both.
Sennelier and Van Gogh are both paints that rewet *very* easily when panned. You cant use them with a lot of water in a travel palette if you panned them. But, if you buy Sennelier in half pans, they are not as tacky afterwards. The two formulas are different in that regard... but I think the color payoff is similar.
I would check a few YT artists: in Liquid Color, The Frugal Crafter, watercolor Misfit to see their impressions of different brands, because you will get an informative overall view. Emily Artful has decent brand recommendations too.
Tube.paints are really good for larger images, and I find them economical to buy and pan myself. I just never fill my pans more than halfway with Sennelier tube paint 😆 dont want the mess😉
Good luck to you, have fun learning about paints!!! I’m terrible at acrylics, I love seeing others enjoy them :)
on another channel the artist said nothing wrong with white but not recommended when starting off because it affects your appreciation of the transparency of the medium.
I'd be curious to see a review of why you didn't like the Sennelier watercolors. I've used them before and while they're not my favorite paints (daniel smith takes that spot), I thought they worked just fine depending on your preferences. Great video on setting up a palette though, thank you!
I did some color comparisons (but didn't put it in the video) most dark colors (prussian blue, hookers green, phthalo green) were all way to light and just totally no good for mixing. But I bought series one, maybe yours are a higher quality series?
I think she got the student grade. I have the essential set of the professional set and they are pretty good
@@1005jocey That makes sense, I've never tried the student grade so that's good to know. Thanks!
@@1005jocey Series isn't about what grade they are, it just tells what price point the pigments are - the larger the series number, the more expensive the pigment.
As others have commented (extensively) the tubes she bought are the Artist line, not the student - those are L' petite Aquarelle. I hope she either found a happy taker for the paints, or found a lovely way to use them. Shayda has a lovely approach to botanicals and it was disheartening that her video started off with misstatements and frustrations. I adore sennelier even more than some Daniel smith, so I hope the tubes found a lucky artist!
Great video. Interesting info about the Sennelier paints.
Her information on Sennelier series number, quality, and consistency is incorrect.
Reading thru the comments will fill you in if you are curious.
Really?
I have mostly Daniel Smith with a few M Graham and Windsor Newton. I love the Daniel Smith paints. The M Graham paints have honey in them so they never dry down completely but they are also very nice. I don’t use white to mix as I like the transparency of water colour and white tends to make them more opaque. I do use white to highlight. As you said it is a personal preference. $100 is a lot a money to spend on paints that you’re not happy with. I started with Cotman paints and I found them to be very nice.
There's no fillers in sennelier.. they are made with honey and are meant for layering. They may be very different if you are used to chalky opaque cheap watercolors.
She was used to Cotman. They actually are student grade with fillers. I prefer Prang over Cotman. She didn’t really even try them.
I wonder what kind of paper you used? Can make a huge difference.
those greens you were talking about...
the darker one is more of a pthalo green blue shade and pthalos are just more vibrant, like quinacridones.
the one you said was emeraldy(hookers green) is just that way. i use windsor and newton professional paints and the same is for them. many people, including me believe “you always want to start off with fairly vibrant paints because you can mute them but not always be able to brighten it.
thank you for purchasing these for us to see!
You definitely spiced up Friday! Love your work, Shayda. Always look forward to videos from you.
Where did you buy your sketch book plz share
These Sennelier paints are the more expensive professional line ... because of better lightfastness.
My favorite tube paints are Grumbacher (USA). I also like Windsor Newton which seem similar to the Grumbacher. I only use tube paints because the pan sets I find just don't last very long especially if you paint alot.
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Check out the White Nights/Yarka paints. The are cheap and very vibrant. I also have the Lukas 1871 paints which I like. And I like Daniel Smith a lot.
Sennelier uses honey and it won't dry that well for the method you're using. Most artists use this paint straight out of the tube
I use sennelier poured into pans- and yes, they have to be half filled or less, because they dont fully dry out. Gotta plan ahead if you are travelling. But, they rewet like a dream! I dont particularly prefer pans to tubes, but tubes are wasier when you need larger amounts.
*easier, not wasier. 🤦♀️
I put my Sennelier paints in pans, but I don't expect them to dry out overnight, that's for sure.