A Miraculous Proof (Ptolemy's Theorem) - Numberphile

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  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  4 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    Part 2 - using the theorem to show some cool stuff: th-cam.com/video/o3QBgkQi_HA/w-d-xo.html
    And a bit extra on inversion: th-cam.com/video/qmfFH1SyXP0/w-d-xo.html

    • @PhilBoswell
      @PhilBoswell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I like the extra length, gives us more to chew on!

    • @HighMansx
      @HighMansx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Name typo! It's Zvezdelina Stankova, missing the 'Z'.

    • @kasajizo8963
      @kasajizo8963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo Numberphile we need some more Simon Pampena

    • @LindaRistevski
      @LindaRistevski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You made my day, Numberphile! Quality!

    • @qwertyuoip1234
      @qwertyuoip1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man, long shoot!

  • @sphyr4973
    @sphyr4973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3556

    I love this host. She is incredibly eloquent, spends a lot of time on the proofs and introduces tricky concepts from Euclidean geometry (one of the most hated subjects) and make them surprisingly interesting and intuitive. More prof. Stankova, please!

    • @TheAradune
      @TheAradune 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      The only access i have to math is geometry. If there is a visual, it is more likely that i can understand it or at least get a grasp why it could be useful.

    • @mrk4022
      @mrk4022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      It's hated right, but to some it's the most beautiful thing in the world. I love it.

    • @xpqr12345
      @xpqr12345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I'm not that picky: as long as I get Numberphile videos, I'm happy. So just give me more Numberphile videos....

    • @marios1861
      @marios1861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@TheAradune when you stop trying to USE everything a new world will open up to you. and this is rich coming from an engineer lol.

    • @steamer1
      @steamer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. More.

  • @f5673-t1h
    @f5673-t1h 4 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    We need more of this professor. Absolutely love how passionate she is and how she takes time to explain the concepts.

  • @joshhickman77
    @joshhickman77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +771

    What an amazingly engaging mathematics instructor. A couple minutes in and I'm hooked, a simple mapping to prove Pythagoras's pappy theorem? Yup.

  • @superj1e2z6
    @superj1e2z6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1491

    Friendship ended with Pythagoras, Ptolemy is now my best friend

    • @Pyrostar0
      @Pyrostar0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I see what you did here

    • @lyrimetacurl0
      @lyrimetacurl0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol

    • @CalamityInAction
      @CalamityInAction 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Pythagoras was a joke. He had a rational number cult, maybe had a fear of beans, and he didn’t even think of the Pythagorean theorem

    • @bsharpmajorscale
      @bsharpmajorscale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@CalamityInAction Don't forget that time they killed the dude who proved that root 2 was irrational.

    • @asherrajah1832
      @asherrajah1832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bsharpmajorscale literally came from that video

  • @24jh42
    @24jh42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +513

    Enthusiastic mathematicians are a delight to watch. Their passion and love for numbers just shines through.

    • @wendolinmendoza517
      @wendolinmendoza517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I agree with on the first part; on the second part, remember math =/= numbers.

    • @fgc_rewind
      @fgc_rewind 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      math isnt about numbers

    • @mattiasselin4955
      @mattiasselin4955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I love George R.R. Martin's love for letters

    • @peterroemer1
      @peterroemer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen!

    • @PC_Simo
      @PC_Simo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fgc_rewind If you think Math is about numbers, you probably think that Shakespeare is all about words. You probably think that dancing is all about shoes. You probably think that music is all about notes. 😃

  • @carsonfang5540
    @carsonfang5540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1754

    This reminds me of a joke:
    A cattle farmer hires an engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician to build a fence around his livestock. The farmer would like to save as much money on materials as possible so they each come up with their own solution and report to the farmer.
    The engineer draws up a square fence seeing that its the most practical solution and the easiest to implement.
    The physicist decides on a circular fence, saying that the circle offers the highest area-to-perimeter ratio.
    The mathematician builds a fence around himself and defines the outside as the interior.

    • @b.griffin317
      @b.griffin317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      oy vey!

    • @CraftQueenJr
      @CraftQueenJr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This is like the red rubber ball joke.

    • @tlf4354
      @tlf4354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      I'm an engineer, and I only want to say that the mathematician should be careful, if he stands right in the center of the fence he would be redefined as existing at the edge of the universe....And worse of all, i mean ALL the edge of the universe....

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      And maybe safe from lions, too!

    • @victos-vertex
      @victos-vertex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@tlf4354 I think this isn't true.
      Not only did the mathematician - not - use an inversion but simply a redefinition, on top of that the ground of the earth is considered the plane he's working in, not the entirety of space as none of the stock doesn't live on the Earth.
      However the Earth can be considered a sphere and where do the lines projected from the center intersect then? Well they do so exactly on the opposite side of the globe.
      Let's assume the stock lives anywhere but the north pole and you want to build a fence around them. The mathematician could just go to the north pole, build a fence there and then declare everything inside that circle as the outside. If he however used an inversion then the center of the north pole would be exactly mapped to the center of the south pole.
      This is easy to imagine (and show) if you just take a tennis ball and put a ring on it. It shows that in case of a sphere what's inside or outside "of the circle" is pure definition as any circle divides the sphere into two areas of circular shape.
      A small circle around the north pole could just be a very big circle around the south pole.

  • @tomkirbygreen
    @tomkirbygreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    Fabulous video. Can’t help thinking how wonderful it would be to be a student of hers.

    • @knugie
      @knugie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      You are, now :-)

  • @TamaraTkacova
    @TamaraTkacova 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Her enthusiasm is honestly so catchy, she makes it sound like going on an adventure haha

  • @muesk3
    @muesk3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Videos like these, going through an entire proof are the best!

  • @quartzofcourse
    @quartzofcourse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +815

    Me clicking on this video: no way I’m watching 30 minutes of this
    Me 30 minutes later: I have reaped the benefits of this new knowledge

    • @lxathu
      @lxathu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Indeed, I also had the fear of a long story BEFORE it started.

    • @collingwoodfan72
      @collingwoodfan72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES!!

    • @danielconnor8516
      @danielconnor8516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Mr. H yes, but it's a nice way to be introduced to inversion. Like a new tool sitting there waiting for you to use it somehow.

    • @dayceem
      @dayceem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nope. 30 minutes in, it's apparent that I've flunked grade 3.

    • @thecallankids4718
      @thecallankids4718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "I have reapdeffects" of this knowledge

  • @SlingerDomb
    @SlingerDomb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    This is one of the most worthy 40 minutes + additional 7 minutes for me. I'm so so happy right now.

    • @samimas4343
      @samimas4343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah. It was like a thriller film where things are all around the place at first but they all come together nicely at the end.

  • @jeromesnail
    @jeromesnail 4 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    Every single host on this channel is my favorite.

  • @spracketskooch
    @spracketskooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I know it's a lot of work putting together these longer vids. So I just wanted to say that I enjoy them immensely, and thanks for all the effort you guys put in.

  • @stephenhicks826
    @stephenhicks826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Absolutely fantastic Zvezdelina! I was transfixed what an amazing proof. - I'm a 66 year old ex school teacher and I'm still learning! Thank-you.

  • @steamer1
    @steamer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    "The King that doesn't participate in the battle, but oversees everything"
    Wish my teacher made geometry this easy to understand.

    • @anilsinha4968
      @anilsinha4968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah, some people love jargon more than the real stuff.

    • @SlingerDomb
      @SlingerDomb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Gotta admit that this subject is one of the hardest to teach. And it is the reason why we use algebra regularly.

    • @urieldaboamorte
      @urieldaboamorte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anilsinha4968 would you like your teachers to speak in logical sentences instead of using natural language? let people learn in peace

    • @sandorrclegane2307
      @sandorrclegane2307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really like this teacher here, but the line you chose to quote says absolutely nothing about geometry

  • @seanp4644
    @seanp4644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This is one of the most beautiful and interesting math results I've ever seen, thank you prof Stankova for your incredible explanation and diagrams!

  • @laurisgatiszarinovs2891
    @laurisgatiszarinovs2891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1536

    "You can see technical proofs using trigonometry. *Ew, who likes those* "
    _Sameeee_

    • @mrk4022
      @mrk4022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Trigonometry is not true geometry. It's even taught within algebra course.

    • @shantanunene4389
      @shantanunene4389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Synthetic is love

    • @aatmansupkar8747
      @aatmansupkar8747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This guy speaks wisdom.

    • @shantanunene4389
      @shantanunene4389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aatmansupkar8747 Hi

    • @aatmansupkar8747
      @aatmansupkar8747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shantanunene4389 Hii

  • @manuc.260
    @manuc.260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is one of my favorite videos (with one of my favorite hosts!). I had a significant assignment last year in which inversion was one of the keys to start cracking the problem, so it has a special place in my heart, and I love projective notions peaking at each corner.
    The one thing missing, which is certainly a more complicated concept, is that the "twin" of O truly is infinity, with the idea that there is only one infinity-point. In that sense, an horizontal line for example, approaches the infinity-point by going to the right and by going to the left, so we must think as if by going to infinity in one direction, you wrap around and appear in the other direction. By this logic, a line can be seen as a circle that passes through the infinity-point, cause a circle is a shape by which you can approach one point by going either way, and you wrap around.
    This finally leads to one of my favorite quotes by Ahlfors: "The last result makes it clear that we should not [...] distinguish between circles and straight lines [...] Accordingly we shall agree to use the word circle in this wider sense.", meaning all lines are just special circles.

  • @erichobbs4042
    @erichobbs4042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the first numberphile in a while where I don't feel completely lost. More of this professor please.

  • @thinkingahead6750
    @thinkingahead6750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really enjoyed this not simply for the classical geometry, a subject that is so delightful if taught well but for the sheer enjoyment conveyed by Zvezdelina Stankova. People are so lucky to be able to see this in their formative years., I wish I was seeing this 50 years ago.

  • @mdkc
    @mdkc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    As soon as she mentioned circle inversion I started getting flashbacks to a crazed Australian laughing maniacally surrounded by compasses

    • @alexismandelias
      @alexismandelias 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Ah that nice problem you solve by drawing 50 circles and inverting them all. Amazing

    • @shrinivasabhat4628
      @shrinivasabhat4628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@alexismandelias which problem?

    • @TrackpadProductions
      @TrackpadProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@shrinivasabhat4628 I think they're referring to the "Epic Circles" video.

    • @urble
      @urble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@TrackpadProductions man that video sure was epic

    • @anteconfig5391
      @anteconfig5391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@urble ooh, that must be where I heard of this circle inversion thing.

  • @banjofries
    @banjofries 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I really like the format of these videos, I feel like I just attended an entire math lesson and understood a cool concept in a half hour without all the quirks of being in a classroom environment. I’ve been using a lot of transformations in art programs to edit stuff (granted, I don’t have to do the math every time and it’s with colors and selections rather than circles and lines) but these concepts are definitely floating around in the back of my mind and it’s good to see them explained.

  • @swfreak258
    @swfreak258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I wish there were more videos with her!
    She's my favourite mathematician

  • @rhhoff
    @rhhoff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not a mathematician. I have never studied maths, or any other exact science. My knowledge of maths is tending towards zero. The professors didactical skills are such that I am now firmly convinced that I understood an actual real life mathematical proof. I would like to sit down with any Numberphile host, but I would especially like to spend time with professor Stankova just to listen and have a fascinating world dis-covered for me

  • @LindaRistevski
    @LindaRistevski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you, Zvezdelina! Even bigger fan of Ptolemy after your matchup. Thank you Numberphile for filming. I have been watching for years. This is now in my top 3 favs!

  • @lineikatabs
    @lineikatabs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Благодаря Ви, проф. Станкова, за невероятната страст и чудесни обяснения :)

    • @improve_zew1er356
      @improve_zew1er356 ปีที่แล้ว

      ты понимешь по англиский? я не понял на англ, а на русском да)

  • @Sharklops
    @Sharklops 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Professor Stankova is tied with Cliff Stoll as my favorite Numberphile presenter, so I was extremely happy to see this video show up today! She always seems to blow my mind and didn't disappoint with her explanation of Ptolemy's Theorem. I feel like I was done a disservice by my 8th grade geometry class which made no mention of it whatsoever

  • @omargaber3122
    @omargaber3122 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a mathematician, I would like to say that this video is more beautiful and exciting than the greatest Marvel films, or even the greatest Hollywood films.
    And do not forget that the radius of inversion does not matter here

  • @quahntasy
    @quahntasy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +594

    *"I need another brown sheet"*
    -Stankova, 2020

    • @LindaRistevski
      @LindaRistevski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Might need this as a t-shirt 😂🙌

    • @kernoelnerd
      @kernoelnerd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Production costs for a Numberphile video starring Prof. Stankova are about twice as high as the ones with the other Numberphile stars.

    • @votepochitasupremacy9174
      @votepochitasupremacy9174 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stanky leg

    • @januszkubala9538
      @januszkubala9538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      colorized

    • @kayleigh8069
      @kayleigh8069 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@votepochitasupremacy9174 HAHA

  • @johnredberg
    @johnredberg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Brady's Inversion: The frequency of a recurring guest's appearance is inversely proportional to the editing time that guest causes for Brady.

    • @ipudisciple
      @ipudisciple 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It therefore follows that every guest needs the same amount of editing time per year.

    • @jeremymcadam7400
      @jeremymcadam7400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ipudisciple we've come full circle

    • @anusheelsolanki1
      @anusheelsolanki1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For a moment I thought, thats some new mathematical theorem, I didn't know about

  • @zs9301
    @zs9301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Please make more of these longer proof-based videos

  • @MrSasyB
    @MrSasyB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love this woman, she has so much knowledge and passion. I wish I had a teacher like her.

  • @Jako1987
    @Jako1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Ptolemy wins. MATHALITY!

    • @mrk4022
      @mrk4022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Easy to be right 500 years later. Pythagoras is still my favorite.

    • @geez6666
      @geez6666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

  • @mueezadam8438
    @mueezadam8438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Great video, Zvezdelina is one of my most favourite guests so far! _(They’re all good though)_ We even got to see the WR for the any% paper change!

  • @YourCritic
    @YourCritic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I could listen to Professor Stankova for hours. There's something fascinating about the way she explains mathematics. Brady, you have to include her in more videos, please!

  • @rstriker21
    @rstriker21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The circle that goes through the center could be thought of as becoming a circle on the outside that just happens to be infinitely big, if there is an infinitely big circle then it’s edge would appear as a line, related to how translation could be thought of as rotation around a point infinitely far away.

    • @seijirou302
      @seijirou302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This is how it's explained in the other inversion video linked in the description. That one is my favorite numberphile video of all time.

    • @skurbanvintr0
      @skurbanvintr0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      think you !!!

    • @skurbanvintr0
      @skurbanvintr0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      facts I was thinking the same !

  • @rulersonicboom4737
    @rulersonicboom4737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This is the best Numberphile video. Love the elegant geometrical proofs of classic geometry theorems.

  • @Robisquick
    @Robisquick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m not literate at math by any means, but this is the best explanation for why Pythagoras Theorum works.. it’s ultra intuitive and beautiful!!

  • @pcfilho425
    @pcfilho425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I just love professor Zvezdelina Stankova - her voice, her eyes and of course her math. :)

  • @roger1561
    @roger1561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Zvezdelina Stankova for a magnificent performance as educator. Totally elegant and effective. Just WOW. and thanks to all Numberphile staff.

  • @zidanez21
    @zidanez21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    At 4:05 I almost became a 5 year getting a chocolate
    I was bit extra excited than I should've been.
    But that was neat

    • @mrk4022
      @mrk4022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why weren't you sleeping at 4:05, Zinedine? Joke, loved that little bit too but so much more was yet to come!

  • @lvander877
    @lvander877 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was expertly explained, every single point was clear, and I every revelation or new trick helping with the problem at hand felt natural. Amazing job.

  • @TheJadeknight7
    @TheJadeknight7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, what a journey! It was all brilliantly explained too. Thanks a lot, Professor Stankova, I learned a lot!

  • @marcwatt
    @marcwatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm absolutely transfixed, mesmerized, and loving this presentation.... My new favorite math tutor. Thanks great presentation

  • @GodlessPhilosopher
    @GodlessPhilosopher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The thing that blows me away is that there is an equal number of points inside and outside the circle.

    • @wash3141
      @wash3141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't that GREAT!

    • @JSole-bd1zg
      @JSole-bd1zg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are right (as long as we ignore the center, which maps to infinite points in the infinity! ;)

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      GodlessPhilosopher i feel you'd be even MORE blown away by the fact that there are an "equal" number of points in the plane as in a small segment. ;-)

  • @JerryDreifuerst
    @JerryDreifuerst 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a young teen, algebra, geometry, and following the logics they revealed engaged and entranced my budding mind. Calculus threw a wet blanket over that growing fired up passion.
    Now, 45 years later on the cusp of turning 60, the beauty & logic of these maths have been restored.
    Thank you.

  • @GaryFerrao
    @GaryFerrao 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    C'mon Brady. After so long Professor Zvezdelina Stankova is so enthusiastic she herself wants a part 2. I like her explanations and allegories and geometry. It's a pleasure to watch Numberphile.
    And thanks for holding up that heavy camera for so long!~

  • @costaran
    @costaran 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    this is the BEST way to learn and LOVE geometry. brady should be THE minister of education around the globe
    PS: i love you stankova

    • @mr.johnson3844
      @mr.johnson3844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Unfortunately, if all education was implemented this way, there would be a lot of gaps. Understanding the basics sometimes requires tedium and that's unavoidable.

    • @lxathu
      @lxathu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He kinda is already.
      And he has also one shared proof.
      He, along with a lot like him, proved that however far away from school, people are thirsty for science. Not all, but a respectable amount.

  • @mu-maths2778
    @mu-maths2778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember the time I discussed inversion mapping with my friends this excitedly after a complex analysis class😍 Thanks for reminding!

  • @benhood7680
    @benhood7680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. Not an easy concept to understand, explained extremely well and obviously edited together very well. I’m sure this was a lot of work but so worth it! Huge fan of this one

  • @slerk9
    @slerk9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    She’s an excellent storyteller and this presentation is captivating! Very nice.

  • @route66math77
    @route66math77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a beautiful sense of wonder and discovery that highlights the joy of problem solving. I find myself coming back to this video again and again. In the realm of pedagogy, Dr. Stankova's methods are masterful.

  • @ckb1137
    @ckb1137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I bless the rays down in Africa

    • @gregoryfenn1462
      @gregoryfenn1462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Roger The Shrubber I see what you did there

    • @sillysausage4549
      @sillysausage4549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rains.

    • @ckb1137
      @ckb1137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sillysausage4549 I think you may have missed the joke

    • @Grizzly01
      @Grizzly01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sillysausage4549 No, it is now rays. Official.

  • @yaseen157
    @yaseen157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's been a long time since I've been able to just sit, shut out the world around me, and lose myself in any video. What a wonderfully engaging guest!

  • @johningham1880
    @johningham1880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    After the lion story, I kept hearing “lions” instead of “lines”.

  • @scottmuck
    @scottmuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only way to improve Numberphile is to make more videos with this level of thoroughness!

  • @MartinPoulter
    @MartinPoulter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    An amazing journey- excellent explanation, animation and editing!

  • @Adamreir
    @Adamreir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the reason we all get superexcited about new Numberphile videos. Increadably well done!👏👏👏

  • @SA38178
    @SA38178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had known about the inversion and the Ptolemy's theorem as two separate pieces of knowledge. Very pleasant to see how they are connected 👍

  • @isaactfa
    @isaactfa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant proof and a brilliant presenter to boot. Contagious enthusiasm and a wonderful way of putting the maths into its geometric context.

  • @Supremebubble
    @Supremebubble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Very nice bit on the theorem. There was a time where I found out about Ptolemys Theorem or should I say Ptolemys inequality which is the version that works for all quadrilaterals. I was obsessed with finding a simple geometric proof of it, but most proofs were too complicated for me. I also saw the inversion one but I deemed it too complicated too, there were too many formulas in the end. After days of not finding one, I gave up. But then one day inspiration hit me and I created what I think is the most simple and elegant proof of not only Ptolemys theorem but Ptolemys inequality which ist stronger. There will probably be a post on reddit and I will post pictures there but here is the idea:
    Ptolemys inequality:
    For any quadrilateral with side lengths a,b,c,d and diagonals e and f it holds:
    ac + bd >= ef
    with equality iff the quadrilateral is cyclic (Ptolemys Theorem).
    Proof idea:
    Take the quadrilateral and copy it 3 times. Scale one version by a factor of a, another by b and the last one by e or f (depending on which diagonal is inbetween a and b). Now the first version has a diagonal of length af, and the second has on with length bf, while the third has the adjacent sides with length af and bf. Now just sneek in the third version into the first and second the right way, and a triangle with side lengths ac, bd and ef will reveal itself. Now it‘s just triangle inequality. qed

    • @FerousFolly
      @FerousFolly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is kinda cool actually

    • @quadrannilator
      @quadrannilator 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much for sharing this particular inversion technique! It is really simple and elegant and obvious to a third grader!

    • @supermarc
      @supermarc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let me know when you have some pictures!

    • @ipudisciple
      @ipudisciple 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a very neat proof. Thank you.

  • @sirmexicanelmo
    @sirmexicanelmo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this. My professor tried to explain this idea to the class but I feel like it all flew over everyones heads. I had no idea what invcersion was and now it all makes sense. Thank you so much!

  • @drpeyam
    @drpeyam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love Zvezda 🙂

  • @jorn-michaelbartels9386
    @jorn-michaelbartels9386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stankova‘s presentation of Ptolemy‘s theorem is superb.

  • @MrMomoro123
    @MrMomoro123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love these longer videos with Professor Stankova's proofs! Would love to see even more.

  • @andreassumerauer5028
    @andreassumerauer5028 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much prof Stankova. That was quite an epic ride. Looking forward to parts 2 and 3.

  • @hindigente
    @hindigente 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Today I learned inversion is not elephantness invariant.

    • @stephenhicks826
      @stephenhicks826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love this comment!

    • @ipudisciple
      @ipudisciple 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Technically, you learned that elephantness is not inversion invariant. The grammar is like "length is rotation invariant" or "angle is scale invariant". I'll show myself out.

    • @hindigente
      @hindigente 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ipudisciple I stand corrected.

  • @ryanbrooks2434
    @ryanbrooks2434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ever since this dropped, it has been my all time favorite numberphile video.

  • @ЖантуарКумарбеков
    @ЖантуарКумарбеков 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is one of the most beautiful proofs I've seen in a while, thanks!

  • @worldnotworld
    @worldnotworld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No doubt the most intriguing, well-paced, and elegant Numberphile video I've yet come across.

  • @robertfelton8374
    @robertfelton8374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Brady seems to be able to bring out the best in these mathematicians.

    • @basteagui
      @basteagui 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      he's got child like wonder.
      child like everything to be honest.

  • @skimmington
    @skimmington 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    videos like this and Epic Circles are endlessly rewatchable, I love these beautiful constructions so much

  • @grmph
    @grmph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    She's my favorite person on this channel

  • @FONEternal
    @FONEternal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Inversion is a translation that I was never taught in school. It's fascinating! Excellent video and teacher.

  • @gabor6259
    @gabor6259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the most awesome Numberphile video in a long time! Because of the elegant proof, prof. Stankova's engaging and likeable personality and the humour in the video.
    Prof.: Now we can prove Ptolemy's theorem.
    Brady: THANK DEAR LORD!

  • @mikewagner2299
    @mikewagner2299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think these longer videos with interesting and useful proofs are better than a shorter video just about an interesting math fact

  • @Subpar1224
    @Subpar1224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    "Something a 3rd grader can do"
    *Finally, my skills can be used.*

  • @chicchi1682
    @chicchi1682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is beautiful. Proving such a valuable and highly encompassing theorem already. Incredible

  • @zaphodbeeblebrox5511
    @zaphodbeeblebrox5511 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Yes! The woman with the strange accent transforms elephants!

  • @faramund9865
    @faramund9865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This inversion stuff is WAAAAAY above what I can understand.

  • @zincminer
    @zincminer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    love Leibniz' cast face in the background

    • @GeorgePlaten
      @GeorgePlaten 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And one of Cliff Stoll's Klein bottles!

    • @MrQbee87
      @MrQbee87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Leibniz in carbonite.

    • @FranFerioli
      @FranFerioli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks like Leibniz is following the proof.

    • @frobeniusfg
      @frobeniusfg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FranFerioli Leibniz approofs )

    • @SubtleForces
      @SubtleForces 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrQbee87 I had to literally laugh out loud in my Montreal apartment since I had just made another reply about Ptolemy saying "I am your father" to Pythagoras and a comment about the bust myself. I'd be stealing from another commenter by saying we have come full circle.

  • @promerops
    @promerops 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a charismatic lecturer! I would certainly look forward to her classes. Thanks!

  • @arwinraj861
    @arwinraj861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    “Trigonometry blehhh who likes those?” Gotta agree with that when it comes from a mathematician !!😂

    • @sanelprtenjaca9776
      @sanelprtenjaca9776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tottaly!

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I raised my hand. I *like* trigonometry and still use it on a daily basis, although I generally do this by using only angles which have tidy sines and cosines, like 45 or 60 degrees.

  • @dominatriex
    @dominatriex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is sooo good. I was tempted to stop it half way through and find all the proofs on my own because I've never had the chance to play around with inversion of circles but I couldn't help myself. You're real people video style is so good. You guys are doing awesome work.

  • @nvgirishs
    @nvgirishs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wow! What a brilliant brilliant teacher!

  • @luismaro14
    @luismaro14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate Bradys work on putting out such an interesting video. You can notice how much effort was put into it, with all those animations on a nearly 40 minute video. Thanks

  • @aaabbb-lq9cp
    @aaabbb-lq9cp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I love listening to this teacher.

  • @DavidPimentel
    @DavidPimentel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My compliments to the video editor. Excellent presentation.

  • @oldcowbb
    @oldcowbb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    i need a 3blue1brown style animation for the inversion transformation

  • @geniegb
    @geniegb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maaan I adore looking at people passionate in their trade.

  • @AlKaBen
    @AlKaBen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I felt like a 5th grader again
    I love videos with her
    Such a great teacher!

  • @razikridzuan4662
    @razikridzuan4662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how this Professor explains. I know nothing about inversion using circle and I learned something new.

  • @jonopearson83
    @jonopearson83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    "Beg your pardon" it was at this point I snorted my mouth full of tea and nearly choked laughing

    • @rv706
      @rv706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Why? (I'm not a native English speaker, so I'm curious to know why; does it sound old fashioned?)

    • @urieldaboamorte
      @urieldaboamorte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@rv706 This expression is usually used when the other person is saying something ridiculous or outrageous. So, in this context, she was "overreacting" to someone complaining about the function.

    • @ubertoaster99
      @ubertoaster99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rv706 Yes.

    • @yimoawanardo
      @yimoawanardo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      XDDD

    • @urieldaboamorte
      @urieldaboamorte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ubertoaster99 I don't think it sounds old-fashioned, just overtly formal

  • @LeAnthonyMathews
    @LeAnthonyMathews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love Zvezdelina Stankov's teaching style. Want more!

  • @lowercaserho
    @lowercaserho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Zvezda is always such a delight!

  • @gliderfan6196
    @gliderfan6196 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For someone who solved THE SIxth Problem everything is easy, but prof. Stankova makes it look easy to everyone and that is amazing

  • @danparish1344
    @danparish1344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She explains things so well, love it

  • @recklessroges
    @recklessroges 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is the first numberphile that I'm going to have to watch a few times for me to be able to fully grok. (Thank you Dr Stankova. Lovely piece of math you demonstrated.)

  • @chrisf84
    @chrisf84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Me: comes to Numberphile to learn interesting things about math
    Also me: learns that the 'P' is silent only because I'm lazy at english

    • @OlliWilkman
      @OlliWilkman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      The 'P' in Ptolemy and pterodactyl etc. is silent in English, but it's pronounced in the original Greek, and most other languages that borrow it. A lot of Greek has been simplified for English for some reason; Plato, Aristotle, Ptolemy… instead of Platon, Aristoteles, Ptolemaios which would be closer to the original.

    • @Ezullof
      @Ezullof 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Linguistic evolution is mostly driven by lazyness and fashion anyway

    • @ChristopherMeadors
      @ChristopherMeadors 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Also, spiral winged aircraft are called helico-pter.

    • @GirGir183
      @GirGir183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      you mean helico-ter?

    • @frechjo
      @frechjo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Phonotactics.