I'm doing these focus brackets daily in my R7 handheld. Occasionally it will say composite stopped because of camera movement but most of the time it does the bracket stack with no problem. 10 to 16 shots will often get an entire dragonfly or large bug in focus using the spacing about two clicks bigger than the minimum.
That's very important! I am using this function to take macro photos for my online store products - imagine you have to stack the hundreds of pics manually - it's a nightmare even if possible in Photoshop! I picked the wrong camera (Sony), now I have to sell it to buy the new Canon R8 for this and the 4k 60p functions. Beware the older RP does NOT do in-camera stacking, that's why it's now so cheap.
Will this trigger a canon flash if attached to the camera? What if the recharge period for a certain power level is longer than the bracket parsing period, do you know?
Hi, I have a question; Does the Canon R10 handle focus stacking internally like the Canon R7? Can this be done without requiring a computer to combine these photos later? lg
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography Thank you very much. I sold a couple of my smaller Sony cameras and plan to buy an R10 just for stills and macro shots. I don't doubt anymore :)
Another reason to love my R7! In all honesty, I didn't even know it could do this! I bought the camera because the sensor, the C-LOG 4K and several other reasons. I knew it had more abilities than what I was using, but this is one I hadn't even thought about! I followed your instructions and produced several great macro photos of a vintage pocket watch! So sharp, so clear and so little effort! Thank you!
I don't know if this is dumb question, but here it is: Is it necessary to have an auto-focus lens in order to do an in-camera focus bracketing? Does it work with a manual lense?
Ha! The video tutorial I was looking for. Very eloquently explained Fabian. The only thing that saddens me a bit is that you must shoot JPEG's...oh well, to Jpeg we go then. Thank you Fabian and warmest regards!
Fabian, it's my first time to your channel, and you've convinced me to subscribe. QUESTION: My Canon R10, using Auto Focus, can do the in camera bracketing and stacking BUT can it be done with FLASH? Many thanks for your anticipated response!
Great explanation and how to. Is there a lot of difference between the r7 doing the stacking in the camera versus than an outside program for the stack. Thank you.
Sometimes proper programs can indeed give better results. But you can do it in-camera and see if it looks good to you. If not, you can still use the individual raw files and stack it in post
I've had the R7 for less than a month and didn’t know it could do this. I've used the camera mainly for birds and wildlife so far, but now Im anxious to mount my EF f2.8 100mm macro lens on it and try some macro shots. Up to now, I have always been disappointed by my macro shots because of depth of field issues. Now I'm excited to try macro photography again. Thank you for the video.
My Olympus can bracket up to 999 images like the Canon but can only internally stack up to 15 shots. Am I to believe the R7 can internally stack up to 999 shots?
Put that owl in the sink and wash it :) I can see too many details lol Great video I just got a macro lens and was fighting DOF, and have never focus bracketed - its pretty easy. You can use your phone as a remote shutter too if your worried about shaking.
This is all new for me just got r7 having lots of fun so far will this work for jpeg. I am taking a class photos have to be jpeg when turned in thanks well I finished the video and got my answer thank you
Am I correct in thinking it's not possible to save stacking and bracketing settings in any way, not even to a custom mode? The camera doesn't seem to remember my bracketing settings if I turn it off and back on again, it's very tedious to have to set them up every time I turn the camera on.
Nice tutorial its just too bad that you can't use flash on Canon mirrorless camera i consider flash essential especially for macro photography especially insects
Great video. I'm getting my R7 next week and would love to try this. A question... what shooting mode do you use to take the pictures? The video showed CM1. How do you enable this? Can you also shoot in Jpeg or die the original pictures be in RAW?
Another question, is the there a formula to calculate the no of stops v number of shots? or is it try and check, because if stacking say a lizard you could stop too soon etc.
hi thanks for the video. did you use the sigma macro 150 mm ef? with adapter ring ef - efr? it works properly? should i use the shorter sigma 105 with adapter ring. Thank you!!
Thank you for this. I need to start with my focus at the nearest point I wish to be within the sharp focal range, right? Do I use AF or MF setting to get to that point?
Can this stacking help in shooting a full moon? Just curious. I would like to get more or better details on a full moon. My full moon always seems to be an orange glob. lol I want to try this on landscape. I bet it will work well on that. Thanks
Thanks for the tutorial video. I tried this option in the field to take a macro shots of an insect with my on camera flash Godox V1, but the flash didn't fire. How to get this fixed, please advise.
hi I just rented the Canon EOS R7 to try out this feature. I found that the camera didn't do the internal stacking for me! The "busy" screen @6:52 in your video didn't appear. Can you tell me what could possibly go wrong? I ended up with 40 separate jpegs for each picture I took! Thanks in advance!
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography I tried to but it forbid my choice of 1:1 picture ratio, so I didn’t use it - is that the reason why it wouldn’t process the stacks in-camera?
I selected a stack of 150 pics, but when I started taking the pictures indeed, it just stopped taking pictures after about 70-75 pics. It seemed as if some buffer or memory was full, because after some time the process was resumed again.Any idea?
hi I checked out the same feature on the Canon RF, and found that it does NOT combine the pictures internally on camera! Does this only work on the R7 (and maybe the new R8?) I called Canon Hong Kong, they seem not sure too. Sad!
Thanks for your time. I currently use an OM-1 for handheld macro stacking/bracketing in the field. It's really fast in taken the images. With what speed is the R7 taking the images?
Hi and thanks for the usual quality of your tuto videos. If I understand well the R5 (and probably the R6 as well) allows to make focus braketing but doesn't create a final stacked image... Right ???
@@ForrestWest Just an opinion: Using the in camera compilation may be easier but disabling it lets you delete the extra shots that cause too much background to be sharp and also allows you to delete any images that you might feel introduced some problem (a live insect flicking an antenna). The big thing is with DPP4 you can save the result as a 16 bit TIFF for further processing in the software of your choice. JPG only? No thanks.
Is there a limit to the lenses that in-body stacking works with? Could I do this with an EF-s 60mm macro and adapter? And a second question: what is the maximum number of frames with which stacking can be done in the body? For the bracketing I saw it was maybe 999?
I don’t know for which exact lenses it works to be honest. Also regarding the number of shots, I never tried anything over 60 I think (not necessary for my needs)
During your testing for this, did you ever encounter a situation where the camera stopped the process saying some thing about how the image overall is too flat? i’ve tried this focus stacking several times, and have had a few successes, but will often times get this message. I think it takes all of the photos that it’s supposed to, but stops the processing.
I did encounter this message today, mean that the subject is not enough shallow to produce stacking. Understandably, my subject was quite far and my aperture was big enough to cover the entire subject so the internal software just say it wassn't worth it's time and resource :p
Mr. Krishna the correct preposition would be "At" this young age, not "In". I offer this only b/c I reckon you welcome any opportunity to improve your already excellent English.
No problems with buffer filling up during shooting, or does it just pause until the buffer empties a bit? I have an R7 and they are criticised for the smaller buffer.
Thanks for the video, Is there a way that you can adjust the speed of the photos? What I'm talking about is the time between each photo, because I will be using flash and it's impossible for flashes ro recycle at that speed. Please help!
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I'm doing these focus brackets daily in my R7 handheld. Occasionally it will say composite stopped because of camera movement but most of the time it does the bracket stack with no problem. 10 to 16 shots will often get an entire dragonfly or large bug in focus using the spacing about two clicks bigger than the minimum.
Thanks for the valuable comment, that’s good to know
I would have imagined that no one would suggest trying this technique hand-held! But I have yet to watch the video. Still a tripod would not hurt!
thanks for the tip!
Wow! I had no idea it could be done "in camera". That makes it almost "mandatory" to use. I will watch this with great interest.
Have fun 😊
That's very important! I am using this function to take macro photos for my online store products - imagine you have to stack the hundreds of pics manually - it's a nightmare even if possible in Photoshop! I picked the wrong camera (Sony), now I have to sell it to buy the new Canon R8 for this and the 4k 60p functions. Beware the older RP does NOT do in-camera stacking, that's why it's now so cheap.
simple explanation and super clear, great video, thanks for sharing,
Happy to hear that it was helpful!
Hi Fabian, thanks for your interesting sharing.
Glad to hear that the video was helpful 😊
Very useful information and great video, thank you 😊
Thanks!
Great video.
Thanks!
Will this trigger a canon flash if attached to the camera? What if the recharge period for a certain power level is longer than the bracket parsing period, do you know?
To my knowledge focus stacking doesn’t work with flash
Hi, I have a question; Does the Canon R10 handle focus stacking internally like the Canon R7? Can this be done without requiring a computer to combine these photos later? lg
Yes, it works pretty much the same
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography Thank you very much. I sold a couple of my smaller Sony cameras and plan to buy an R10 just for stills and macro shots. I don't doubt anymore :)
Thank you fabian. Your explaining is so clear and very to understand
Glad to hear that you liked it 😊
Can you use a flash on the r7 when focus bracketing
No 🙁
Another reason to love my R7! In all honesty, I didn't even know it could do this! I bought the camera because the sensor, the C-LOG 4K and several other reasons. I knew it had more abilities than what I was using, but this is one I hadn't even thought about!
I followed your instructions and produced several great macro photos of a vintage pocket watch! So sharp, so clear and so little effort!
Thank you!
You‘re welcome
Can we use flash while stacking
Unfortunately, no
I don't know if this is dumb question, but here it is:
Is it necessary to have an auto-focus lens in order to do an in-camera focus bracketing? Does it work with a manual lense?
You need an AF lens, otherwise the camera can’t move the focus
My R7 arrives tomorrow, and I have already been experimenting with macro, so this video has been fantastic, thanks.
Have fun with the camera!
Ist es möglich diese Funktion mit Blitz zu verwenden?
Nein, meines Wissens nicht
Nein, meines Wissens nicht
Hallo Fabian.
I have the eos R7.
And i have the Sigma 105 mm for macro.
The problem i have is That the focus breathing.
What can i do?
I think the R7 has a correction for focus breathing. If not you will probably need to merge them in post
Ha! The video tutorial I was looking for. Very eloquently explained Fabian. The only thing that saddens me a bit is that you must shoot JPEG's...oh well, to Jpeg we go then. Thank you Fabian and warmest regards!
Thanks
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always 👍👌
Thanks for your comment 😊
Fabian, it's my first time to your channel, and you've convinced me to subscribe.
QUESTION: My Canon R10, using Auto Focus, can do the in camera bracketing and stacking BUT can it be done with FLASH?
Many thanks for your anticipated response!
Thanks! No, unfortunately it doesn’t work with flash
Great explanation and how to. Is there a lot of difference between the r7 doing the stacking in the camera versus than an outside program for the stack. Thank you.
Sometimes proper programs can indeed give better results. But you can do it in-camera and see if it looks good to you. If not, you can still use the individual raw files and stack it in post
I've had the R7 for less than a month and didn’t know it could do this. I've used the camera mainly for birds and wildlife so far, but now Im anxious to mount my EF f2.8 100mm macro lens on it and try some macro shots. Up to now, I have always been disappointed by my macro shots because of depth of field issues. Now I'm excited to try macro photography again. Thank you for the video.
Good luck
My Olympus can bracket up to 999 images like the Canon but can only internally stack up to 15 shots. Am I to believe the R7 can internally stack up to 999 shots?
I honestly don’t know what’s the limit for the R7 but it is for sure a lot more than 15 😊
Put that owl in the sink and wash it :) I can see too many details lol Great video I just got a macro lens and was fighting DOF, and have never focus bracketed - its pretty easy. You can use your phone as a remote shutter too if your worried about shaking.
Haha, good idea! I‘ve always had a bit problems with the connection of my R5 and iPhone. No idea why
This is all new for me just got r7 having lots of fun so far will this work for jpeg. I am taking a class photos have to be jpeg when turned in thanks well I finished the video and got my answer thank you
Glad to hear that the video was helpful!
Am I correct in thinking it's not possible to save stacking and bracketing settings in any way, not even to a custom mode? The camera doesn't seem to remember my bracketing settings if I turn it off and back on again, it's very tedious to have to set them up every time I turn the camera on.
Yes, I think you need to activate it every time you restart the camera or change the mode (M, Av, etc.)
hello peut on faire focus stacking avec les nebuleuses galaxies etoiles ???? can we do focus stacking with star galaxy nebulae ???
I don’t think you need focus stacking for astrophotography. There you rather stack for reducing noise, right?
Hi, do you know if there are other camera models/brands that also has this function - focus bracketing depth composite?
Yes there are various models of different brands. But I can’t remember all of them by heart
Great info, thanks for making this tutorial.
Happy to hear that it helped
Nice tutorial its just too bad that you can't use flash on Canon mirrorless camera i consider flash essential especially for macro photography especially insects
I‘m not sure if it works with stacked sensors (R3)
Is focus bracketing works only in electronic mode ?
I want to use it with flash
I think only electronic (at least on my R5)
Great video. I'm getting my R7 next week and would love to try this. A question... what shooting mode do you use to take the pictures? The video showed CM1. How do you enable this? Can you also shoot in Jpeg or die the original pictures be in RAW?
Hi! I usually shoot craw, just the composite image will be jpeg.
I have a video here that explains the C1:
th-cam.com/video/YJYNRkbHAgY/w-d-xo.html
Whats memory card you use?
I use primarily this SD card: bhpho.to/3RZe0uZ
For my R5 I prefer CFexpress
Thanks for answer @@FabianFoppNaturephotography
Would this be good for landscape photogrpahy and long exposures?
For landscape photography were you need a lot of depth of field for sure. I never tried how well it works for long exposures (the merging part)
A very good review of the focus stacking capabilities of the R7. I wasn't aware it would only take JPGs for focus stacking. Good to know! Thank you.
Thank you!
Another question, is the there a formula to calculate the no of stops v number of shots? or is it try and check, because if stacking say a lizard you could stop too soon etc.
No, unfortunately I don’t think there is a formula. I assume with time you get kind of a feeling for it
hi thanks for the video. did you use the sigma macro 150 mm ef? with adapter ring ef - efr? it works properly? should i use the shorter sigma 105 with adapter ring. Thank you!!
Hi! Yes, exactly. I assume it should also work with the 105mm
Thank you dear!
Great video for me the beginner with focus stacking on my new r7. thanks.
Happy to hear
hello, how i can record screen from view-finder and save it as video?
I did this with an Atomos Ninja
Thank you for this. I need to start with my focus at the nearest point I wish to be within the sharp focal range, right? Do I use AF or MF setting to get to that point?
Yes, and if I recall correctly it only works in AF mode
I wish my Sony a7rV would do the stacking already in the camera.. Sadly it doesnt, but at least takes them in RAW
You can always stack them later 😊 the r7 also takes the individual photos in raw
Can this stacking help in shooting a full moon? Just curious. I would like to get more or better details on a full moon. My full moon always seems to be an orange glob. lol I want to try this on landscape. I bet it will work well on that. Thanks
No, I think it would not help for your moon photos
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography The moon being that far, the depth of field does not really come into play like a macro would. Gotcha
Does r6ii has focus stacking apart from bracketing
I thought so, yes
Hi. Would that work with my manual Laowa lens?
No, the lens needs to have AF
May I ask if focus stacking is possible when using the R7 with a sigma 105 lens please? Great video and explanation ! Thanks
It worked with the R7 + Sigma 150. but I couldn’t test the 105
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography thanks :)
Great video. Congrats. Is this working i guess the same on r10 . But the camera combines them by itself ?
To my knowledge yes 😊
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography yes it does , find it also to the manual . The thing is it stores all photos but nevermind. Thank you again keep up
video starts at 3:00
If you want to skip the introduction, yep 😊
Thanks for the tutorial video. I tried this option in the field to take a macro shots of an insect with my on camera flash Godox V1, but the flash didn't fire. How to get this fixed, please advise.
Hi! To my knowledge the stacking doesn’t work with flash
Thanks
I use the OM1 and godox V860iii and you can focus stack with that combination or other flashes .
I recently tried this. I too set my number to 40. However, I didn't see 40 images show up in my library on my camera? Ideas?
Die only see the final image? Or multiple images but less than 40?
Subscribed. Thanks for the great tutorial !
Thanks for your support
hi I just rented the Canon EOS R7 to try out this feature. I found that the camera didn't do the internal stacking for me! The "busy" screen @6:52 in your video didn't appear. Can you tell me what could possibly go wrong? I ended up with 40 separate jpegs for each picture I took! Thanks in advance!
Did you enable the depth composite setting?
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography I tried to but it forbid my choice of 1:1 picture ratio, so I didn’t use it - is that the reason why it wouldn’t process the stacks in-camera?
Yes, that’s the reason. Just leave the aspect ratio at 3:2 and crop later - you don’t loose anything with that
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography I tried it and it worked beautifully- thanks so much, no other reviewers offer this level of details 👍👍👍😊😊
I selected a stack of 150 pics, but when I started taking the pictures indeed, it just stopped taking pictures after about 70-75 pics. It seemed as if some buffer or memory was full, because after some time the process was resumed again.Any idea?
Maybe the card is too slow. Which one did you use?
I use a Sandisk Extreme Pro 200MB/s V30. Do you think that’s still too slow?
Did you try if it’s better with craw?
Great video, just tried this and it works very well
Thanks, glad to hear that
Thanks for the video ✨, is it only available with autofocus or also with manual focus ?
Thanks ☺️ You need to have AF enabled
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography allright good to know 👍
hi I checked out the same feature on the Canon RF, and found that it does NOT combine the pictures internally on camera! Does this only work on the R7 (and maybe the new R8?) I called Canon Hong Kong, they seem not sure too. Sad!
Hi! There is no camera called „Canon RF“. Which model do you mean?
Thanks for your time. I currently use an OM-1 for handheld macro stacking/bracketing in the field. It's really fast in taken the images. With what speed is the R7 taking the images?
It’s quite fast. But I‘m not sure if it’s the full 30fps or a bit lower (might also depend on the focus increments)
Hi and thanks for the usual quality of your tuto videos. If I understand well the R5 (and probably the R6 as well) allows to make focus braketing but doesn't create a final stacked image... Right ???
Thanks! Yes, on the R5 it works exactly As you described
That is correct. They will do a focus bracket but only the R7 will compile them in the camera.
@@ForrestWest Just an opinion: Using the in camera compilation may be easier but disabling it lets you delete the extra shots that cause too much background to be sharp and also allows you to delete any images that you might feel introduced some problem (a live insect flicking an antenna). The big thing is with DPP4 you can save the result as a 16 bit TIFF for further processing in the software of your choice. JPG only? No thanks.
But it is in any way recording the raw files. So you can always process them (or delete some) in DPP. Or am I missing something?
Is there a limit to the lenses that in-body stacking works with? Could I do this with an EF-s 60mm macro and adapter?
And a second question: what is the maximum number of frames with which stacking can be done in the body? For the bracketing I saw it was maybe 999?
I don’t know for which exact lenses it works to be honest. Also regarding the number of shots, I never tried anything over 60 I think (not necessary for my needs)
What does 60 frames mean? Bracketing or stacking in camera? I guess bracketing?@@FabianFoppNaturephotography
I never tried more for either stacking or bracketing. But maybe google knows how many are possible with the R7
The lens need to be auto focus . Mp-e 65mm is manual focus lens . So you can not use for in camera focus bracketing
@@balbirkandola2472
I don't use MP-e 65mm :) The question here is about EF-S 60mm macro.
During your testing for this, did you ever encounter a situation where the camera stopped the process saying some thing about how the image overall is too flat? i’ve tried this focus stacking several times, and have had a few successes, but will often times get this message. I think it takes all of the photos that it’s supposed to, but stops the processing.
Hi! No, I didn’t encounter this. But I did very limited testing. Did you manage to merge the raw files with DPP?
I did encounter this message today, mean that the subject is not enough shallow to produce stacking. Understandably, my subject was quite far and my aperture was big enough to cover the entire subject so the internal software just say it wassn't worth it's time and resource :p
@FabianFoppNaturephotography can you do this on Canon RP i.e. stacking on the camera itself instead of using software or is this only R7 feature?
I think it only works on newer cameras (R10, R7, R6 II, R8 etc)
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography thanks Fabian I already brought the RP bugger
its a great video, i would like to ask which lens has been used in this tutorial
Thanks! It was the Sigma 150mm f/2.8 Macro
Hi! Sorry for asking but does this focus stacking work on Laowa lenses?
Thank you for the video.
Glad if you liked it 😊
In this young age you have the ability to inspire, and that comes from honesty in your approach. Good work Fabian!
Thanks a lot for your kind words, Vimal 😊
Mr. Krishna the correct preposition would be "At" this young age, not "In". I offer this only b/c I reckon you welcome any opportunity to improve your already excellent English.
How does this process work for landscape photos in low light when you may need a wider aperture?
It should work basically the same. You will need less pictures though
Thanks for sharing
Glad to hear that it helped
So the R5 doesn't do it directly in camera like the R7?
Exactly. On the R5 you need to stack them on the computer afterwards
Does this work the same on the r10?
Yes, to my knowledge
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography Awesome, thanks!
Awesome tutorial
Glad to hear that you like it 😊
Excellent vidéo!
Thanks!
Does R10 also stack images in the camera as well ?
Yes!
thank you!
Glad to hear that it was useful 😊
No problems with buffer filling up during shooting, or does it just pause until the buffer empties a bit? I have an R7 and they are criticised for the smaller buffer.
I only used it for 30-40 shots and there I had no issues
Thanks for the video, Is there a way that you can adjust the speed of the photos? What I'm talking about is the time between each photo, because I will be using flash and it's impossible for flashes ro recycle at that speed. Please help!
I think focus bracketing doesn’t work with flash on the R7
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography Thanks