It's obviously not for strike reasons that we have driveless metros but for efficency, speed, optimising the maximum frequency during rush hours. Also it's very hard to convert a 100 years old metro line into driveless system without interruption of traffic (only night shift work) so there's only one of them (the line 1) and one set to be driveless by the end of 2023 (the line 4). The line 14 is an high speed driveless line that was built this way in the 1990's. Also the metro is set to double it's size by 2030 with the opening of 4 new driveless high speed (over 62milesph) lines and 68 new stations.
You kind of touched on this, but the "mostly grid" system in NY is so much easier to understand. You want to go south? Look for the entrance to the subway the is on the southbound side of the street. So simple
I've used both the NY and Paris Subways. Paris Metro is excellent. I used the Navigo in Paris which was easy. THe Metro card in NY has to be a smooth swipe. You can't bend the card. Last time I was in NY I used my debit card to move the the turnstlye. But the pickpockets in Paris are worse, then in NY or Chicago. THe third day I was in Paris my cellphone got pickpocketed. I've never been pickpocketed in Chicago or NY. I might give it to Paris,because you can get it every 3 minutes.
There is some missing information here. You didn't touch on the daily mobilis pass. It's a great alternative if you are going to be in town for just a couple of days, or can't get a weekly pass. It's 7.50 euros a day
I agree. There's a lot of missing info. It's not a comprehensive guide. (Doesn't touch on the RER either.) Thank you for sharing the daily mobile pass! That's GREAT info!
The Metro in DC also requires you knowing the endpoint to determine the direction you are traveling. Unfortunately since COVID the trains run every 20 minutes.
Good to keep metro closing hours in mind and know if you have to transfer from one line to another. Make sure you will arrive at your transfer point in time to make your last leg before closing or you can be stuck in a part of Paris you don’t want to be in the middle of the night. Been there, done that. Rescued by an alarmed off duty cabbie who loudly gave us a lecture in french of which I could understand nothing, except “stupid americans” which he continued to mutter the entire drive. 😮
As far as the size of the cars goes, bear in mind there are 2 sizes of NYC subway car; the IRT are smaller than the letter lines (narrower tunnels) , and the Paris cars appear to be about the same width as IRT.
That's a good point. Without having actually measured any subway car ever, the Paris ones FEEL a lot smaller than any NYC car I've been on. Ill have to see if I can find exact measurements.
O.k. so having looked it up - It seems the Paris M77 metro cars are 8 feet 0.9 inches wide and about 50 feet long. The IRT A division is also 8 feet 9 inches wide and is 51 feet long. Division B are 10 feet wide and 60 feet long.
Which is why you won't ever see an R160 run on the 2 or 4 as they wouldn't fit in the tunnels, same with an R62 on the D. There's too much of a gap between the platform and train. It's also a contributing factor as to why the Lex is the most overcrowded line in the U. S.
Having used both systems in the last month, I have this observation. New York subways in general have better signage letting you know when the next subway is coming. The Paris subway is more crowded, and the New York subway is far more accessible for the mobility impaired. The stairs almost killed me in Paris.
OMG - the crowds in Paris are BONKERS! I thought NYC had crowds, but it was nothing compared to the Paris Metro and buses. I almost had a panic attack because I haven't been around that many people in over two years - never mind THAT CLOSE to them! I didn't even THINK about accessibility. I don't know if PARIS has an ADA type law. I don't recall seeing lots of alternatives to stairs in Paris. REALLY good point!
@@TheMeganDaily Of course France has ADA type law but because much of Paris metro is very old, it's not fitted for mobility impaired people. Any line or station built in the last three decades are accessible.
Lines 1 and 14 are driverless and line 4 is currently being converted to driverless operations.
Identifying transit line directions by line identifier (number) and line terminus (last station) is extremely common in most systems.
Very interesting! I am so jealous of those train frequencies.
It's obviously not for strike reasons that we have driveless metros but for efficency, speed, optimising the maximum frequency during rush hours. Also it's very hard to convert a 100 years old metro line into driveless system without interruption of traffic (only night shift work) so there's only one of them (the line 1) and one set to be driveless by the end of 2023 (the line 4). The line 14 is an high speed driveless line that was built this way in the 1990's.
Also the metro is set to double it's size by 2030 with the opening of 4 new driveless high speed (over 62milesph) lines and 68 new stations.
You kind of touched on this, but the "mostly grid" system in NY is so much easier to understand. You want to go south? Look for the entrance to the subway the is on the southbound side of the street. So simple
I've used both the NY and Paris Subways. Paris Metro is excellent. I used the Navigo in Paris which was easy. THe Metro card in NY has to be a smooth swipe. You can't bend the card. Last time I was in NY I used my debit card to move the the turnstlye.
But the pickpockets in Paris are worse, then in NY or Chicago. THe third day I was in Paris my cellphone got pickpocketed. I've never been pickpocketed in Chicago or NY. I might give it to Paris,because you can get it every 3 minutes.
There is some missing information here. You didn't touch on the daily mobilis pass. It's a great alternative if you are going to be in town for just a couple of days, or can't get a weekly pass. It's 7.50 euros a day
I agree. There's a lot of missing info. It's not a comprehensive guide. (Doesn't touch on the RER either.) Thank you for sharing the daily mobile pass! That's GREAT info!
The Metro in DC also requires you knowing the endpoint to determine the direction you are traveling. Unfortunately since COVID the trains run every 20 minutes.
The Paris métro inspired the Montréal métro. 🙂
Good to keep metro closing hours in mind and know if you have to transfer from one line to another. Make sure you will arrive at your transfer point in time to make your last leg before closing or you can be stuck in a part of Paris you don’t want to be in the middle of the night. Been there, done that. Rescued by an alarmed off duty cabbie who loudly gave us a lecture in french of which I could understand nothing, except “stupid americans” which he continued to mutter the entire drive. 😮
As far as the size of the cars goes, bear in mind there are 2 sizes of NYC subway car; the IRT are smaller than the letter lines (narrower tunnels) , and the Paris cars appear to be about the same width as IRT.
That's a good point. Without having actually measured any subway car ever, the Paris ones FEEL a lot smaller than any NYC car I've been on. Ill have to see if I can find exact measurements.
O.k. so having looked it up - It seems the Paris M77 metro cars are 8 feet 0.9 inches wide and about 50 feet long. The IRT A division is also 8 feet 9 inches wide and is 51 feet long. Division B are 10 feet wide and 60 feet long.
Which is why you won't ever see an R160 run on the 2 or 4 as they wouldn't fit in the tunnels, same with an R62 on the D. There's too much of a gap between the platform and train.
It's also a contributing factor as to why the Lex is the most overcrowded line in the U. S.
Having used both systems in the last month, I have this observation. New York subways in general have better signage letting you know when the next subway is coming. The Paris subway is more crowded, and the New York subway is far more accessible for the mobility impaired. The stairs almost killed me in Paris.
OMG - the crowds in Paris are BONKERS! I thought NYC had crowds, but it was nothing compared to the Paris Metro and buses. I almost had a panic attack because I haven't been around that many people in over two years - never mind THAT CLOSE to them! I didn't even THINK about accessibility. I don't know if PARIS has an ADA type law. I don't recall seeing lots of alternatives to stairs in Paris. REALLY good point!
@@TheMeganDaily Of course France has ADA type law but because much of Paris metro is very old, it's not fitted for mobility impaired people.
Any line or station built in the last three decades are accessible.
The stairs are the reason why we Parisians are not obese ;)
@@elouanp4588 the majority of Americans are not obese, but yes the percentage is higher than in Paris
New york people are nice, very rude in paris, pick pocket in paris not in NYC, clean in paris duty NYC ,
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