Just goes to show how great those fighters from past eras were when they were multi weight champions. They really were fighting much bigger men when they moved up.
I don't understand how weight favour someone in a fight so much as to guarantee a victory. Fighters like Khabib, Bruce Lee & Mike Tyson are prime examples of people who can absolutely destroy heavier guys. There is a reason why almost all of ancient martial arts never gave a damn about muscle mass or weight. More Muscle mass doesn't mean more strength. It's proven biology.
@@Sheen023 🤡 khabib weighs 200 off of fight camp and cuts to 155 mike is wider than a car and Bruce Lee never had legit fights. At a pro stage, where everyone is ridiculously good, even 2 pounds make a difference. You will catch on
I see a lot of comments like "why don't they make it like ufc?" But don't take into consideration how much bigger boxing is than ufc. Imagine if they did get rid of some weight class then it would be nearly impossible to decide who gets a turn to fight the champion. Or even get a turn to fight the champion
As a Filipino I'll be damn proud if I see a Filipino champion in the heavyweight division but alas us South East Asian folks loose too much speed and stamina if our boxers go up the heavier divisions.
Cheers lads! I think boxing would massively benefit from simplicity, but making any big changes to the sport are impossible at this point - due to a lack of centralised governance
Physics, the reason for heavyweight division to be 201+ lbs and unlimited is because once a fighter reaches that weight, he develops enough power and punch resistance to knock out nearly anyone, and even if a 200lb guy doesnt knock out a 250lb guy, the force and speed behind that 200lb guys punch is still lethal, it doesn't fking matter at that weight anymore, it still hurts. Plus, he will also have a speed advantage especially if he is skilled, and better stamina due to the less weight. Id honestly say that 210-235lbs is the best weight for a heavyweight. Mike Tyson was defeating champion's at 215lbs, Current undisputed unified heavyweight champion is a guy that weighs just 214lbs, an has never lost a single fight, he is undefeated completely. In fighting, speed is all that matters He completely destroyed Anthony Joshua, who was much larger, an heavier.
I weigh around 225lbs naturally at 6'2 and never done boxing in my life but when I'm sparring with other lighter people in MMA (I use a lot of leg kicks and some basic boxing), I'm always told I'm hitting hard while I'm actually not putting any force in my kicks. That's how I realized that the weight was a huge advantage in term of power.
@@soonaherospeed is all that matters (pound for pound) maybe you misunderstood what he said,power is mass x acceleration if u accelerate faster u can still create power, react faster etc, if a heavy slow heavy weigth is figthing a faster one and their are equal in skill being faster give u an advantage
@@crazybros543 speed isn’t about power here. The claim is the power becomes irrelevant and increasing power doesn’t help you win more as a knockout is a knockout. It’s not about power, it’s about connecting.
LOL 115lb adult males exist? other than dwarfs.. also heavy weight 206 thats ridiculous. 206 is small, if youre tall then 206 is lanky as hell, there should be after the lightheavyweight many more. 220lb 240lb 260lb atleast
Good series this, interesting to watch as any type of fan, sometimes it is good to review things like this. Even though I would like a few less weight classes, boxing is too divided between promoters, broadcasters, etc. to go back now I think. That is why there are so many multi-division champs nowadays, they have to move up a few divisions to fight all the talent that is scattered across them. However, I think this is more of a problem between the smaller guys in those divisions where there is a distance of a few pounds between weights.
@@BrokenNoseBoxing Steady on there, I'm not too far removed from being a child myself 😁. Can see the younger generation of new combat fans tilting towards MMA, as it is more approachable than boxing due to the monopoly UFC has on the sport which negates a lot of the promotional politics, not to mention the lack of countless belts and divisions. Hence why if these factors aren't going to change in boxing, videos like these could be exactly what more casual or newer fans of the sport need.
@@nigelseymour4850 Catchweights are usually when two fighters agree to fight inbetween two of the normal weight classes - say if a fighter was too big to go down to Middleweight but didn't want to fight up at the next weight division, then they might agree in the contract with another fighter to fight at somewhere inbetween the two weights. Generally catchweights are for fights without any title on the line. They still have to come in under the weight limit that the contract says though.
Hmm, I think given your height & natural weight - you may be more suited to middleweight or super middleweight when you’d theoretically get into boxing shape. P.S. cheers for watching!
To me, I like when both fighters meet in the middle. I don’t like fighters moving up (or down) and fight someone in their division because they don’t have any experience with this newly added weight (or newly shedded weight) So, to me, I like less divisions. Have shorter guys bulk up and taller guys shed weight. Because I don’t like divisions that aren’t “stacked”. Because in the UFC, lightweight and welterweight are stacked. It’s the most watched. So, let’s say: 135, 165, 195, 215. So, a 30 lb difference. That should force fighters to move to their natural weight. There shouldn’t need to be taller fighters shedding weight to gain an advantage or so happens that they can’t make weight. So less divisions. 135, 165, 195, 215. 4 divisions. Should be UNIVERSAL from now on. 4 champions. Simplicity. 135 and 165 is a big gap. A big difference.
Hell no maybe 15 pound difference 20 at most but 30 is rediculous ur forgetting height factor ud have guys literslly 6ft3 195 fighting guys 5 ft 9 195 extreme dissadvantage they wud have noo reach forget sbout it if the got khawhi leanerd wingspan they wudnt be touched
Well done buddy. Too many though,imo I'm a bit of a traditionalist, so preferred it when there were 8 or 10, but it's how it is, not how I'd like it. Still, back in the day there were only 2 weight divisions, so at least it's better than then. I just hate the sport keep being diluted, especially with all the belts per division. Bless up bro 👊
I'm all for fairness, but boxing just has way too many weight classes. I think MMA has the weight classes about where they should be. The gaps in divisions shouldn't be any less than 10 lbs. I find it hard to believe that boxers aren't discipline enough to gain or lose 5 lbs to fit into a weight class. Also, get rid of weight cutting.
I enjoyed your video on weight divisions but I have a point of dispute on safety. Generally more evenly matched boxers will last with each other in the ring then fighters who weighs are very different. Who are The Boxers who usually suffer the worst long-term injuries? It's those who have been good enough to continue to fight but bad enough to take a lot of and have had longer careers. In a strange way this is what happens mostly with more evenly matched fighters. I have to say that I I'm not objective about boxing. I thought when I was young and I managed later in life including the top 10 heavyweight. When I first got my managers license I was supposed to have met the head of the New York State athletic commission who was then former heavyweight champion Floyd Patterson. They would not allow me to meet him as had been a tradition. About a year later I read the New York Times that when he was deposed in a lawsuit he did not know that he had been a boxer or that he had been heavyweight champion. I believe in the power of sport in competition in all that it can do to benefit people. But I frankly have given up on sports particularly those which damage the brain. MMA has gotten even more popular than boxing and is even more brutal. I think because of how young that sport is we haven't yet seen the crop of brain damaged athletes that we have seen in boxing. I appreciate that boxing has been a tradition for inner-city poor people to reach places they wouldn't have otherwise. And so we've gotten the likes of people like Muhammad Ali who we all saw suffer from tragic pugilistic parkinson's. I'm a believer that there are better alternatives that won't damage the brain and we've seen people who have come from poor backgrounds like the Williams sisters in tennis to grow and even dominate the sport. I cannot deny that to watch a great fight is like watching art and science combined. But I can't any longer justify my desire to see something selfishly that in the long run destroys the very people who are putting on that great performance.
A lot of ppl might not like it but it would be sweet if there was like half the amount of divisions. We would get to see matchups that we normally didn’t get to and there wouldn’t be 50 world champions. 8 has a nice ring to it?? Idk how they would do it but I’d start with 105-114 115-124 125-134 135-149 150-164 165-179 180-199 200+
If you look at some of the UFC fighters who can’t stand up straight on the scales shows why there should be so many weight divisions. Seeing the russian v filipino would be an amusing spectacle tho 🤣 good breakdown Chris 👌
Why cannot just make 'em like UFC Flyweight 49.5_52KG Bantamweight 53__ 56KG Lightweight Welterweight Middleweight Lightheavyweight Heavyweight Why ! In this way they gon' make a big fights .. and savages champions bro be honest do you watch junior flyweight all and .. Super and light and .. It's fuccin maze bro so boring
Physics, the reason for heavyweight division to be 201+ lbs and unlimited is because once a fighter reaches that weight, he develops enough power and punch resistance to knock out nearly anyone, and even if a 200lb guy doesnt knock out a 250lb guy, the force and speed behind that 200lb guys punch is still lethal, it doesn't fking matter at that weight anymore, it still hurts. Plus, he will also have a speed advantage especially if he is skilled, and better stamina due to the less weight. Id honestly say that 210-235lbs is the best weight for a heavyweight. Mike Tyson was defeating champion's at 215lbs, Current undisputed unified heavyweight champion is a guy that weighs just 214lbs, an has never lost a single fight, he is undefeated completely. In fighting, speed is all that matters He completely destroyed Anthony Joshua, who was much larger, an heavier.
Depends on how you feel man. I’m 6’1 as well and fought 178lb but I underrate and overexercised to get there and I also got genetics like big legs that add a bit of weight. I moved up to 178 to 201 heavyweight it’s a lot better here because I’ve learned my natural weight is around 208 or so so I lose 7 pounds easy and 6’1 is said to be about the average for an ameatur heavyweight or in pro boxing a cruiserweight probably even less because tbh most people exaggerate there height by an inch or 2. But if you think you can lose weight naturally and healthy to 178 then do that you’ll probably have the height advantage by 2 to 3 inches most likely.
I'm a trained fighter, but I'm 6'6 and 300lbs. I used to be 6'1 and 210bs. If land one shot on the greatest lightweight in the world, it will hurt them incredibly bad. But if Shaq decides to swat me at 400lbs, he will break my fuckin head. Weight is about fairness. That's it.
But it doesn't make any sense to have a 3lbs interval when they cut and rehydrate much more and the fight night, the weight diference is many times much bigger than 1, 2 or 3 weight classes, you have many boxers that are champions in "different" weight classes. MMA only has 8 despite size being much more important do to the grappling and the wrestle
We need to merge a few of the lightest weight classes and make new heavy weight classes. These current heavyweights are as big as dinosaurs and there is no way for someone around 210 to 225 to get a fair match up
Physics, the reason for heavyweight division to be 201+ lbs and unlimited is because once a fighter reaches that weight, he develops enough power and punch resistance to knock out nearly anyone, and even if a 200lb guy doesnt knock out a 250lb guy, the force and speed behind that 200lb guys punch is still lethal, it doesn't fking matter at that weight anymore, it still hurts. Plus, he will also have a speed advantage especially if he is skilled, and better stamina due to the less weight. Id honestly say that 210-235lbs is the best weight for a heavyweight. Mike Tyson was defeating champion's at 215lbs, Current undisputed unified heavyweight champion is a guy that weighs just 214lbs, an has never lost a single fight, he is undefeated completely. In fighting, speed is all that matters He completely destroyed Anthony Joshua, who was much larger, an heavier.
@@ihatecandy02I weight 250 but still have Abs I can’t imagine fighting a deonte wilder or Anthony Joshua I’m 6”2 250 and I think I’m tiny but people think I’m huge
So why can't boxers choose go up weight divisions without needing to make the minimum cut off weight? I get safety is an issue but surely a division or two is fine?
Not really since mass matters more than height. Not to mention height plays a huge role in weight classes since someone like Deontay Wilder would be fighting at bantamweight if he was a foot shorter.
Excellent video, very informative. Just curious, where's this guy from? I'm not a native speaker looking to learn more about accents and sharpen my hearing understanding, I know he's probably from the UK but I notice a slight difference compared to the standard UK accent I can think of.
Nice video mate , farout very interesting, as im a New Zealander we like to use Kilos, so basically anyone over 90.6 kilos has to fight heavy weight , thats pretty extreme, personally im idling around 95 kilos, so yeah makes for a serious challenge to take on a 125 kilo bloke but i spose after 10 rounds , the 125 kilo bloke be a bit more puffed ! Very interesting, cheers, yeah recently watched a interview with Chris Eubank Senior which re lit my interest in boxing, cheers
Heavyweight ceiling seems low when you look at average male weight in New Zealand is about 90kg (198lbs) and would land in the heavyweight division. But when you consider the average male may carry about 25% body fat while boxers might be closer to 8-14% (or heavyweights closer to 15%), it makes sense why the upper weight limit is so low. Boxing divisions are dividing athletes who are in peak physical condition relative to their weight, not dividing by measurements of the average person. People gravitate to watching the higher weight classes because it “looks like them” when in reality, if the average person cut down their weight as much as a boxer did relative to the average New Zealand height of 1.78m (5’10”) tall, most men would land between featherweight and welterweight and not heavyweight. Because the average Boxer who is 1.78m would more likely than not be in that Featherweight/Welterweight category. In boxing, if you’re going up in weight it better be muscle mass or else you’re giving yourself a massive disadvantage.
Yo man, thanks for the vid. I wanted to ask you a question, I am 6 foot for 80 kg. Would I be too short for a light heavyweight ? Should I go for super middle weight instead? Thanks for your time.
Wdym average light heavyweight is said to be 6’1 same with cruiserweight Arthur beterbiev is 5’11 1/2 so you would be taller then the light heavyweight champion just see what is comfortable for you
@@Memoryman12367 I think just fight where you’re comfortable even if you’re like 5’10 you could still stand a chance at heavyweight and let’s be honest lots of athletes lie about there height like Murrat gassiev claims to be 6’4 he looks 2 inches shorter then 6’3 oleksandar usyk or people like Ryan Garcia claiming 5’11 when he looks more like 5’9
who cares about anything below Heavy weight, anything below HW is handicap weight class, special olympics. people watch fighting sports to see THE strongest people in the world competing against each other to claim the title of the STRONGEST person in the world.
Great video. I actually thought was less than 17 weight classes. 1 thing you don’t always get weighed in day before,can be on the day weigh which happens in small hall boxing due to costs.
Cheers Colin! Yeah I'm trying to get some much needed education out there for new and casual fans of the sport. I'll be doing a video on why weigh ins are the day before a fight in future, I'll try to remember that same day point you mentioned
17 classes is a joke, There should be no more than 10 weight classes. Why don't they just do a weight class every 15-20 pounds? I would fight someone within 15-20 pounds of me.
Well, to sum it up, the reason why we have so many weight classes is bcuz the same reason we have so many shoe sizes........⬅️RIDDLE Boxing being the Global Combat Sport that it is and with the World Population today......⬅️GENETICS The HW division is the most dangerous.....think about that 🧠💡
You really didn't explain why there's so many weight classes. You may have tried but you did an absolute horrible job of it. You compared two men that had a 100 lb weight difference. Not two men that had a 15 lb or 20 lb weight difference. And let's not forget about weight cutting. Fighters cut a lot of weight and they only weigh that for about 1 hour while stepping on the scale. Once they get into the ring the next night they do not weigh that anymore. They are standing in that ring fighting each other not at the exact same weight. Heavyweight fighters can fight one another with a 10 20 or even 30 lb weight difference. Why are heavyweights the only division that can fight with a 15-20 lb or even 30 lb weight difference from one another. Why can middleweights or lightweights not do the same thing
Look it really goes down to someone like canelo doing well in super middleweight or a category above or lower. But he is not going welter or cruiser. The cruiser category is the most cursed because a lot of good boxers got crushed by somebody like Foreman and they dont make the money like the middleweights
AJ's just hanging out, he was a bit sweaty that day. Just came from the gym, chest day. Forgot his phone though. He's just said 'fs!' as the press took this image
Current status 1. WBA CHAMPIONS Heavyweight: Anthony Joshua. Middleweight: Canelo Alvarez. Welterweight: Manny Pacquiao 2. WBC CHAMPIONS Heavyweight: Tyson Fury. 3. IFO CHAMPIONS Heavyweight: Anthony Joshua. 4. WBO CHAMPIONS Heavyweight: Anthony Joshua. Rest I don't remember🤔
Although not the main reason, it certainly could be considered a factor. I think the number of belts per weight division/sanctioning body is more related to your point. But that's just my opinion
Sure! Two fighters agree to fight at a specific weight, to the exact pound. Often non-title bouts. Example; if you are a fighter at 140 pounds & I’m at 135 pounds, but I’m thinking of moving up but I want to put you at a disadvantage (maybe I can cause I’m very popular or have a better promoter) - then we might fight at a catchweight of say…. 138 pounds
Sure! Two fighters agree to fight at a specific weight, to the exact pound. Often non-title bouts. Example; if you are a fighter at 140 pounds & I’m at 135 pounds, but I’m thinking of moving up but I want to put you at a disadvantage (maybe I can cause I’m very popular or have a better promoter) - then we might fight at a catchweight of say…. 138 pounds
@@BrokenNoseBoxing I get that but when they have 17 divisions to breakup or "make even" a 100lb spread I don't understand why the weight advantage disappears after 201 lbs?
Physics, the reason for heavyweight division to be 201+ lbs and unlimited is because once a fighter reaches that weight, he develops enough power and punch resistance to knock out nearly anyone, and even if a 200lb guy doesnt knock out a 250lb guy, the force and speed behind that 200lb guys punch is still lethal, it doesn't fking matter at that weight anymore, it still hurts. Plus, he will also have a speed advantage especially if he is skilled, and better stamina due to the less weight. Id honestly say that 210-235lbs is the best weight for a heavyweight. Mike Tyson was defeating champion's at 215lbs, Current undisputed unified heavyweight champion is a guy that weighs just 214lbs, an has never lost a single fight, he is undefeated completely. In fighting, speed is all that matters He completely destroyed Anthony Joshua, who was much larger, an heavier.
I don't understand how weight favour someone in a fight so much as to guarantee a victory. Fighters like Khabib, Bruce Lee & Mike Tyson are prime examples of people who can absolutely destroy heavier guys. There is a reason why almost all of ancient martial arts never gave a damn about muscle mass or weight. More Muscle mass doesn't mean more strength. It's proven biology.
If you are naturally heavier, you can hit a lot harder and you are able to take more damage than someone who is, say, naturally 20 or so pounds lighter. Having the proper weight also affects how well your body performs (if you're too light then you will not be able to take as much hits and could not hit as hard, and if you're too heavy then you would be too slow and gass out too quickly). That's why weight favors someone in a fight. Even Bruce Lee himself stated that he would never win against Muhammad Ali, a heavyweight champion, as there was too much of a size and weight advantage in favor of Ali ( bruce was around 5'7" at 145 lbs while Ali was 6'3" and usually fought over 210 lbs at the time).
Ok mike Tyson was a big guy weight wise and he was a freakish fighter. Bruce lee would have no chance against heavyweights because and most of his stories r myths. Khabib is one of the best pound for pound fighters ever but against a heavyweight in the ufc he wouldn’t do well.
@@yeheheyee9998 you missed the Mike Tyson point. None of the major martial arts give a damn about weight! Khabib would smash any heavyweight without doubt!
Mike had insane strength though, very few guys are like that so it's best to have the weight classes otherwise you're going to end up with middle weights dying to heavy fighters.
Just goes to show how great those fighters from past eras were when they were multi weight champions. They really were fighting much bigger men when they moved up.
Good point, Rah! Few weight divisions, fewer belts = much more difficult to become a world champion
I don't understand how weight favour someone in a fight so much as to guarantee a victory.
Fighters like Khabib, Bruce Lee & Mike Tyson are prime examples of people who can absolutely destroy heavier guys.
There is a reason why almost all of ancient martial arts never gave a damn about muscle mass or weight.
More Muscle mass doesn't mean more strength. It's proven biology.
@@Sheen023 🤡 khabib weighs 200 off of fight camp and cuts to 155 mike is wider than a car and Bruce Lee never had legit fights. At a pro stage, where everyone is ridiculously good, even 2 pounds make a difference. You will catch on
@@goatmansasquatch1485 🤡💩 and?
@@Sheen023 exactly. That’s your comment.
I see a lot of comments like "why don't they make it like ufc?" But don't take into consideration how much bigger boxing is than ufc. Imagine if they did get rid of some weight class then it would be nearly impossible to decide who gets a turn to fight the champion. Or even get a turn to fight the champion
I do think it's a lot of weight classes but I'm okay with it, it's safe for the fighters and more opportunities to become a champion
As a Filipino I'll be damn proud if I see a Filipino champion in the heavyweight division but alas us South East Asian folks loose too much speed and stamina if our boxers go up the heavier divisions.
Do you think Boxing should follow the UFC model and have less weight divisions. Btw good video mate 👍
Cheers lads! I think boxing would massively benefit from simplicity, but making any big changes to the sport are impossible at this point - due to a lack of centralised governance
There's way too many weight classes in boxing, they should definitely remove some.
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the real reason is because title fights draw more people so they made redundant ones.
@@danieljones-mh7rb They’d draw more people if the champions were more well-known.
Physics, the reason for heavyweight division to be 201+ lbs and unlimited is because once a fighter reaches that weight, he develops enough power and punch resistance to knock out nearly anyone, and even if a 200lb guy doesnt knock out a 250lb guy, the force and speed behind that 200lb guys punch is still lethal, it doesn't fking matter at that weight anymore, it still hurts. Plus, he will also have a speed advantage especially if he is skilled, and better stamina due to the less weight.
Id honestly say that 210-235lbs is the best weight for a heavyweight.
Mike Tyson was defeating champion's at 215lbs,
Current undisputed unified heavyweight champion is a guy that weighs just 214lbs, an has never lost a single fight, he is undefeated completely.
In fighting, speed is all that matters
He completely destroyed Anthony Joshua, who was much larger, an heavier.
I weigh around 225lbs naturally at 6'2 and never done boxing in my life but when I'm sparring with other lighter people in MMA (I use a lot of leg kicks and some basic boxing), I'm always told I'm hitting hard while I'm actually not putting any force in my kicks. That's how I realized that the weight was a huge advantage in term of power.
This is force not power. Power is work per time and force is a matter that has physical impact on the material.
“Speed is all that matters” then flyweights should dominate everyone
@@soonaherospeed is all that matters (pound for pound) maybe you misunderstood what he said,power is mass x acceleration if u accelerate faster u can still create power, react faster etc, if a heavy slow heavy weigth is figthing a faster one and their are equal in skill being faster give u an advantage
@@crazybros543 speed isn’t about power here. The claim is the power becomes irrelevant and increasing power doesn’t help you win more as a knockout is a knockout.
It’s not about power, it’s about connecting.
I just memorized all of the weight divisions.
Nice!
We should have 10 Weight Classes
Flyweight 115 Pounds
Bantamweight 125 Pounds
Featherweight 135 Pounds
Lightweight 145 Pounds
Welterweight 155 Pounds
Middleweight 165 Pounds
Cruiserweight 175 Pounds
Bridgerweight 190 Pounds
Light Heavyweight 205 Pounds
Heavyweight 206+ Pounds
LOL 115lb adult males exist? other than dwarfs.. also heavy weight 206 thats ridiculous. 206 is small, if youre tall then 206 is lanky as hell, there should be after the lightheavyweight many more. 220lb 240lb 260lb atleast
What's the point of a 190 pound division?
@@ABABABABABABABABABABBBBBB Haven't you heard of weight cutting? Someone who weighs 206 pounds can easily fight at Cruiserweight.
@@ABABABABABABABABABABBBBBB Bruh look at Jesse rodriguez. He's a 115lb monster. Great fighter
@@H.K.5 cruiser weight is 200 pounds today but they created the bridge’s weight for boxers under that 210 mark
this is the kind of thing we discussed. thx for making this.
Exactly! Your feedback in action! Fantastic suggestion, thank you
Good series this, interesting to watch as any type of fan, sometimes it is good to review things like this. Even though I would like a few less weight classes, boxing is too divided between promoters, broadcasters, etc. to go back now I think. That is why there are so many multi-division champs nowadays, they have to move up a few divisions to fight all the talent that is scattered across them. However, I think this is more of a problem between the smaller guys in those divisions where there is a distance of a few pounds between weights.
Cheers Pavan, it's time us for to teach the children!
@@BrokenNoseBoxing Steady on there, I'm not too far removed from being a child myself 😁. Can see the younger generation of new combat fans tilting towards MMA, as it is more approachable than boxing due to the monopoly UFC has on the sport which negates a lot of the promotional politics, not to mention the lack of countless belts and divisions. Hence why if these factors aren't going to change in boxing, videos like these could be exactly what more casual or newer fans of the sport need.
Can someone educate me on the Catchweight side of things...
Ta
@@nigelseymour4850 Catchweights are usually when two fighters agree to fight inbetween two of the normal weight classes - say if a fighter was too big to go down to Middleweight but didn't want to fight up at the next weight division, then they might agree in the contract with another fighter to fight at somewhere inbetween the two weights. Generally catchweights are for fights without any title on the line. They still have to come in under the weight limit that the contract says though.
@@pavansidhu6705 Thanks Pav, top man. It's all come a long way since the NBA 1921!
I currently weigh 181 at 5’10” so I guess i could do a water cut and go down to light heavyweight or fight at cruiserweight💯
Hmm, I think given your height & natural weight - you may be more suited to middleweight or super middleweight when you’d theoretically get into boxing shape.
P.S. cheers for watching!
@@BrokenNoseBoxing how bout 200lbs or 190lbs depending on if i wanna lose weight and 5’9
@@capolean2902 Definitely should cut down to the middle or lightweights
@@capolean2902 cruiser weight
No go 38.566 kg
To me, I like when both fighters meet in the middle. I don’t like fighters moving up (or down) and fight someone in their division because they don’t have any experience with this newly added weight (or newly shedded weight)
So, to me, I like less divisions. Have shorter guys bulk up and taller guys shed weight. Because I don’t like divisions that aren’t “stacked”. Because in the UFC, lightweight and welterweight are stacked. It’s the most watched.
So, let’s say: 135, 165, 195, 215. So, a 30 lb difference.
That should force fighters to move to their natural weight. There shouldn’t need to be taller fighters shedding weight to gain an advantage or so happens that they can’t make weight. So less divisions.
135, 165, 195, 215. 4 divisions. Should be UNIVERSAL from now on. 4 champions. Simplicity.
135 and 165 is a big gap. A big difference.
I agree, mate. I’d love a return to the classic 8 divisions like what boxing used to have. UFC use that model
Hell no maybe 15 pound difference 20 at most but 30 is rediculous ur forgetting height factor ud have guys literslly 6ft3 195 fighting guys 5 ft 9 195 extreme dissadvantage they wud have noo reach forget sbout it if the got khawhi leanerd wingspan they wudnt be touched
Well done buddy. Too many though,imo
I'm a bit of a traditionalist, so preferred it when there were 8 or 10, but it's how it is, not how I'd like it. Still, back in the day there were only 2 weight divisions, so at least it's better than then. I just hate the sport keep being diluted, especially with all the belts per division. Bless up bro 👊
Cheers Nick! I feel the same
I'm all for fairness, but boxing just has way too many weight classes. I think MMA has the weight classes about where they should be. The gaps in divisions shouldn't be any less than 10 lbs. I find it hard to believe that boxers aren't discipline enough to gain or lose 5 lbs to fit into a weight class. Also, get rid of weight cutting.
I agree! UFC uses the old boxing weight classes in name
More testiment to canelo yes he has losses but my gosh he has done a great job stepping up and fighting in higher weight classes
I’m a 5 feet 2 in height & 130 pounds adult man! 🥊
I enjoyed your video on weight divisions but I have a point of dispute on safety. Generally more evenly matched boxers will last with each other in the ring then fighters who weighs are very different. Who are The Boxers who usually suffer the worst long-term injuries? It's those who have been good enough to continue to fight but bad enough to take a lot of and have had longer careers. In a strange way this is what happens mostly with more evenly matched fighters. I have to say that I I'm not objective about boxing. I thought when I was young and I managed later in life including the top 10 heavyweight. When I first got my managers license I was supposed to have met the head of the New York State athletic commission who was then former heavyweight champion Floyd Patterson. They would not allow me to meet him as had been a tradition. About a year later I read the New York Times that when he was deposed in a lawsuit he did not know that he had been a boxer or that he had been heavyweight champion. I believe in the power of sport in competition in all that it can do to benefit people. But I frankly have given up on sports particularly those which damage the brain. MMA has gotten even more popular than boxing and is even more brutal. I think because of how young that sport is we haven't yet seen the crop of brain damaged athletes that we have seen in boxing. I appreciate that boxing has been a tradition for inner-city poor people to reach places they wouldn't have otherwise. And so we've gotten the likes of people like Muhammad Ali who we all saw suffer from tragic pugilistic parkinson's. I'm a believer that there are better alternatives that won't damage the brain and we've seen people who have come from poor backgrounds like the Williams sisters in tennis to grow and even dominate the sport. I cannot deny that to watch a great fight is like watching art and science combined. But I can't any longer justify my desire to see something selfishly that in the long run destroys the very people who are putting on that great performance.
I kinda wanna see a super heavy weight class that is 300 plus. Imagine what that'd look like
that would be crazy bro. butterbean would rule that division lol
americans would win
Great explanation, if only I knew what a pound is.
Ha! 1 pound = 453.5 grams
A lot of ppl might not like it but it would be sweet if there was like half the amount of divisions. We would get to see matchups that we normally didn’t get to and there wouldn’t be 50 world champions. 8 has a nice ring to it?? Idk how they would do it but I’d start with
105-114
115-124
125-134
135-149
150-164
165-179
180-199
200+
If you look at some of the UFC fighters who can’t stand up straight on the scales shows why there should be so many weight divisions. Seeing the russian v filipino would be an amusing spectacle tho 🤣 good breakdown Chris 👌
Good point, Mathias!
Basically our society explained. It’s the strongest people on top.. is what it is
The ascent is so strong I can barely understand but I like😅
Ha! Cheers Sizwe, thanks for watching
it’s not even strong
Cap
Why cannot just make 'em like UFC
Flyweight 49.5_52KG
Bantamweight 53__ 56KG
Lightweight
Welterweight
Middleweight
Lightheavyweight
Heavyweight
Why !
In this way they gon' make a big fights .. and savages champions
bro be honest do you watch junior flyweight all and .. Super and light and ..
It's fuccin maze bro so boring
Those were the original number & names of the weight divisions in boxing. I’d like to see a return to that, but it’ll never happen
Why are the classes so close it the lower weights going up by 3lb but the higher classes go up by 25
Physics, the reason for heavyweight division to be 201+ lbs and unlimited is because once a fighter reaches that weight, he develops enough power and punch resistance to knock out nearly anyone, and even if a 200lb guy doesnt knock out a 250lb guy, the force and speed behind that 200lb guys punch is still lethal, it doesn't fking matter at that weight anymore, it still hurts. Plus, he will also have a speed advantage especially if he is skilled, and better stamina due to the less weight.
Id honestly say that 210-235lbs is the best weight for a heavyweight.
Mike Tyson was defeating champion's at 215lbs,
Current undisputed unified heavyweight champion is a guy that weighs just 214lbs, an has never lost a single fight, he is undefeated completely.
In fighting, speed is all that matters
He completely destroyed Anthony Joshua, who was much larger, an heavier.
6'1 (185,5cm ) 87kg (193lbs) 🧍♂️ should I bulk or cut
Depends on how you feel man. I’m 6’1 as well and fought 178lb but I underrate and overexercised to get there and I also got genetics like big legs that add a bit of weight. I moved up to 178 to 201 heavyweight it’s a lot better here because I’ve learned my natural weight is around 208 or so so I lose 7 pounds easy and 6’1 is said to be about the average for an ameatur heavyweight or in pro boxing a cruiserweight probably even less because tbh most people exaggerate there height by an inch or 2. But if you think you can lose weight naturally and healthy to 178 then do that you’ll probably have the height advantage by 2 to 3 inches most likely.
I'm a trained fighter, but I'm 6'6 and 300lbs. I used to be 6'1 and 210bs.
If land one shot on the greatest lightweight in the world, it will hurt them incredibly bad. But if Shaq decides to swat me at 400lbs, he will break my fuckin head.
Weight is about fairness. That's it.
But it doesn't make any sense to have a 3lbs interval when they cut and rehydrate much more and the fight night, the weight diference is many times much bigger than 1, 2 or 3 weight classes, you have many boxers that are champions in "different" weight classes. MMA only has 8 despite size being much more important do to the grappling and the wrestle
We need to merge a few of the lightest weight classes and make new heavy weight classes. These current heavyweights are as big as dinosaurs and there is no way for someone around 210 to 225 to get a fair match up
Physics, the reason for heavyweight division to be 201+ lbs and unlimited is because once a fighter reaches that weight, he develops enough power and punch resistance to knock out nearly anyone, and even if a 200lb guy doesnt knock out a 250lb guy, the force and speed behind that 200lb guys punch is still lethal, it doesn't fking matter at that weight anymore, it still hurts. Plus, he will also have a speed advantage especially if he is skilled, and better stamina due to the less weight.
Id honestly say that 210-235lbs is the best weight for a heavyweight.
Mike Tyson was defeating champion's at 215lbs,
Current undisputed unified heavyweight champion is a guy that weighs just 214lbs, an has never lost a single fight, he is undefeated completely.
In fighting, speed is all that matters
He completely destroyed Anthony Joshua, who was much larger, an heavier.
@@ihatecandy02 To see AJs relative downfall from the Olympic champion was really sad.
No cap i weight 250 and I was thinking bout boxing but these niggas big asf 😂😂
@@ihatecandy02I weight 250 but still have Abs I can’t imagine fighting a deonte wilder or Anthony Joshua I’m 6”2 250 and I think I’m tiny but people think I’m huge
Missing bridgerweight and straw weight
So why can't boxers choose go up weight divisions without needing to make the minimum cut off weight? I get safety is an issue but surely a division or two is fine?
F*** weight classes, we need height classes😤
HA! That made me laugh out loud
Not really since mass matters more than height. Not to mention height plays a huge role in weight classes since someone like Deontay Wilder would be fighting at bantamweight if he was a foot shorter.
we need only 10 weight classes, 10 lbs apart from each other.
Excellent video, very informative. Just curious, where's this guy from? I'm not a native speaker looking to learn more about accents and sharpen my hearing understanding, I know he's probably from the UK but I notice a slight difference compared to the standard UK accent I can think of.
Nice video mate , farout very interesting, as im a New Zealander we like to use Kilos, so basically anyone over 90.6 kilos has to fight heavy weight , thats pretty extreme, personally im idling around 95 kilos, so yeah makes for a serious challenge to take on a 125 kilo bloke but i spose after 10 rounds , the 125 kilo bloke be a bit more puffed ! Very interesting, cheers, yeah recently watched a interview with Chris Eubank Senior which re lit my interest in boxing, cheers
Heavyweight ceiling seems low when you look at average male weight in New Zealand is about 90kg (198lbs) and would land in the heavyweight division. But when you consider the average male may carry about 25% body fat while boxers might be closer to 8-14% (or heavyweights closer to 15%), it makes sense why the upper weight limit is so low. Boxing divisions are dividing athletes who are in peak physical condition relative to their weight, not dividing by measurements of the average person.
People gravitate to watching the higher weight classes because it “looks like them” when in reality, if the average person cut down their weight as much as a boxer did relative to the average New Zealand height of 1.78m (5’10”) tall, most men would land between featherweight and welterweight and not heavyweight. Because the average Boxer who is 1.78m would more likely than not be in that Featherweight/Welterweight category.
In boxing, if you’re going up in weight it better be muscle mass or else you’re giving yourself a massive disadvantage.
3:30 bro there like battleship classes ahah
Thanks buddy !!
Yo man, thanks for the vid. I wanted to ask you a question, I am 6 foot for 80 kg. Would I be too short for a light heavyweight ? Should I go for super middle weight instead? Thanks for your time.
Hmm, I’m actually not sure! Best to ask a local boxing coach, John! Thanks for watching
Wdym average light heavyweight is said to be 6’1 same with cruiserweight Arthur beterbiev is 5’11 1/2 so you would be taller then the light heavyweight champion just see what is comfortable for you
@@lukedavenport8576 It really depends on other things once you get to 6 foot and over.
@@Memoryman12367 I think just fight where you’re comfortable even if you’re like 5’10 you could still stand a chance at heavyweight and let’s be honest lots of athletes lie about there height like Murrat gassiev claims to be 6’4 he looks 2 inches shorter then 6’3 oleksandar usyk or people like Ryan Garcia claiming 5’11 when he looks more like 5’9
Cheers man ,wanted this for years,
who cares about anything below Heavy weight, anything below HW is handicap weight class, special olympics.
people watch fighting sports to see THE strongest people in the world competing against each other to claim the title of the STRONGEST person in the world.
That's just an insult to many lower division fighters pal
Very nice. I was wondering why so many.
Cheers Diego!
Thank you
Great video.
I actually thought was less than 17 weight classes.
1 thing you don’t always get weighed in day before,can be on the day weigh which happens in small hall boxing due to costs.
Cheers Colin! Yeah I'm trying to get some much needed education out there for new and casual fans of the sport.
I'll be doing a video on why weigh ins are the day before a fight in future, I'll try to remember that same day point you mentioned
17 classes is a joke, There should be no more than 10 weight classes.
Why don't they just do a weight class every 15-20 pounds? I would fight someone within 15-20 pounds of me.
I agree, Marco!
Superb Video.
Thanks a lot
CAP if your a good boxer you should go against everyone including massive giants
Well, to sum it up, the reason why we have so many weight classes is bcuz the same reason we have so many shoe sizes........⬅️RIDDLE
Boxing being the Global Combat Sport that it is and with the World Population today......⬅️GENETICS
The HW division is the most dangerous.....think about that 🧠💡
I’m 5’10-5’11 and 140 pounds am I good?
Your to light
You really didn't explain why there's so many weight classes. You may have tried but you did an absolute horrible job of it. You compared two men that had a 100 lb weight difference. Not two men that had a 15 lb or 20 lb weight difference. And let's not forget about weight cutting. Fighters cut a lot of weight and they only weigh that for about 1 hour while stepping on the scale. Once they get into the ring the next night they do not weigh that anymore. They are standing in that ring fighting each other not at the exact same weight. Heavyweight fighters can fight one another with a 10 20 or even 30 lb weight difference. Why are heavyweights the only division that can fight with a 15-20 lb or even 30 lb weight difference from one another. Why can middleweights or lightweights not do the same thing
What is your accent? I am American, to us it sounds like Scotland. Am I right? 🥇
Scotland is correct, John!
Why is cruiser on top of light heavy? My common sense tells me it should be light heavy then heavy What is a cruiser? LoI I'll go to search that word.
Good point. Cruiserweight was added much later, as a stop gap in between 175 pound light heavy & 200 pound+ heavyweight divisions
For the metric system! ✊✊✊✊✊
I think I'm having trouble understanding you😅
😅 which country are you from?
@@BrokenNoseBoxing I'm from the Philippines, I'm just not used to your accent that's all😅
Can I identify as a super-light weight?
Sure!
I'm 5ft 11 1/2 about 76kg should I go up in weight
Look it really goes down to someone like canelo doing well in super middleweight or a category above or lower. But he is not going welter or cruiser. The cruiser category is the most cursed because a lot of good boxers got crushed by somebody like Foreman and they dont make the money like the middleweights
Why the homoerotic thumbnail of AJ 😄?
AJ's just hanging out, he was a bit sweaty that day. Just came from the gym, chest day. Forgot his phone though. He's just said 'fs!' as the press took this image
I like the Irish and their accent
Current status
1. WBA CHAMPIONS
Heavyweight: Anthony Joshua.
Middleweight: Canelo Alvarez.
Welterweight: Manny Pacquiao
2. WBC CHAMPIONS
Heavyweight: Tyson Fury.
3. IFO CHAMPIONS
Heavyweight: Anthony Joshua.
4. WBO CHAMPIONS
Heavyweight: Anthony Joshua.
Rest I don't remember🤔
Where’s Floyd douche
What about 5’9 at 225lbs?
Too many weight classes, look at canelo he went from 160lbs to 168lbs 8lbs isn't a big jump neither is he fighting a much bigger fighter.
I agree!
Unfortunately the real reason is so them sanctioning bodies can make more profit 😂
Although not the main reason, it certainly could be considered a factor. I think the number of belts per weight division/sanctioning body is more related to your point. But that's just my opinion
Can someone educate me on the Catchweight side of things...
Ta
Sure! Two fighters agree to fight at a specific weight, to the exact pound. Often non-title bouts.
Example; if you are a fighter at 140 pounds & I’m at 135 pounds, but I’m thinking of moving up but I want to put you at a disadvantage (maybe I can cause I’m very popular or have a better promoter) - then we might fight at a catchweight of say…. 138 pounds
Sure! Two fighters agree to fight at a specific weight, to the exact pound. Often non-title bouts.
Example; if you are a fighter at 140 pounds & I’m at 135 pounds, but I’m thinking of moving up but I want to put you at a disadvantage (maybe I can cause I’m very popular or have a better promoter) - then we might fight at a catchweight of say…. 138 pounds
@@BrokenNoseBoxing Thanks for that BNB.
Who is on running division?
Which division?
@@BrokenNoseBoxing Hahaha! in welterweight? 😂
One word,… money. Sanctioning bodies collect more fees
So why can't a 100lb fight a 200lb? But a 201lb can fight a 350lb?
The heavyweight division is "200+", meaning the criteria is anything 200 pounds or over
@@BrokenNoseBoxing I get that but when they have 17 divisions to breakup or "make even" a 100lb spread I don't understand why the weight advantage disappears after 201 lbs?
Because 350 pound boxers aren't common at all.
Physics, the reason for heavyweight division to be 201+ lbs and unlimited is because once a fighter reaches that weight, he develops enough power and punch resistance to knock out nearly anyone, and even if a 200lb guy doesnt knock out a 250lb guy, the force and speed behind that 200lb guys punch is still lethal, it doesn't fking matter at that weight anymore, it still hurts. Plus, he will also have a speed advantage especially if he is skilled, and better stamina due to the less weight.
Id honestly say that 210-235lbs is the best weight for a heavyweight.
Mike Tyson was defeating champion's at 215lbs,
Current undisputed unified heavyweight champion is a guy that weighs just 214lbs, an has never lost a single fight, he is undefeated completely.
In fighting, speed is all that matters
He completely destroyed Anthony Joshua, who was much larger, an heavier.
@@ihatecandy02 FINALLY a good answer! Thank you for the explanation!
I would appreciate it if u right the weights
They are listed near the end of the video 👌🏻
@@BrokenNoseBoxing i mean like super light weight is 140 pounds
Im 5'8 148 wat class should i box at
J middle weight
I don’t know how it works in the UK but here in the Americas, Mexico is considered as part of North America, not Central America.
A minor error
What boxing weight classe is 166 ibs ?
Super middleweight is 161-168
@@BrokenNoseBoxing Cheers
Told you it was 17😉😅
Haha aye, excellent pick!
Hmmm I’m 6’5 250 🤔
Big lad!
I don't understand how weight favour someone in a fight so much as to guarantee a victory.
Fighters like Khabib, Bruce Lee & Mike Tyson are prime examples of people who can absolutely destroy heavier guys.
There is a reason why almost all of ancient martial arts never gave a damn about muscle mass or weight.
More Muscle mass doesn't mean more strength. It's proven biology.
Don't forget Dempsey - perfect mix of momentum + weight.
If you are naturally heavier, you can hit a lot harder and you are able to take more damage than someone who is, say, naturally 20 or so pounds lighter. Having the proper weight also affects how well your body performs (if you're too light then you will not be able to take as much hits and could not hit as hard, and if you're too heavy then you would be too slow and gass out too quickly). That's why weight favors someone in a fight.
Even Bruce Lee himself stated that he would never win against Muhammad Ali, a heavyweight champion, as there was too much of a size and weight advantage in favor of Ali ( bruce was around 5'7" at 145 lbs while Ali was 6'3" and usually fought over 210 lbs at the time).
Ok mike Tyson was a big guy weight wise and he was a freakish fighter. Bruce lee would have no chance against heavyweights because and most of his stories r myths. Khabib is one of the best pound for pound fighters ever but against a heavyweight in the ufc he wouldn’t do well.
@@paulr3x788 wrong assumption. Power application doesn't work like that.
@@yeheheyee9998 you missed the Mike Tyson point.
None of the major martial arts give a damn about weight!
Khabib would smash any heavyweight without doubt!
What about a we don't care weight and I can still beat that tree
Exhibition
David and gol everyone will watch
And exhibition of such
Boro cann yuee speek “English” pleag.
You what, mate?
You are an idoit xyz. I can clearly hear him, don't be a prick.
Been better to have made a chart with the weight and name
Mike Tyson 5,10 and still woping player that 100 pound heaver and 6,6 tall
Mike had insane strength though, very few guys are like that so it's best to have the weight classes otherwise you're going to end up with middle weights dying to heavy fighters.