In Japan, a fighter have to either have won the JBC belt (Japanese national title) or the OPBF belt (ocean pacific regional title) to be eligible for fighting for a world title.
Yes, they do. In America you need the NABO and NABF. in Europe, they have the EBU. But each country in Europe also has their national belts. In the UK you probably need the British title or the Commonwealth title.
I think champions should be labeled like This : 1 belt = Champion 2 belt = unified champion 3 belts = unequivocally champion 4 belts = Undisputed champion
Yea that’s how I view it but my problem is with these belts that look the same and have a dumb name Regular, super , silver all the same. Lineal WBC , WBA, IBF WBO world champion Interim WBC, WBA , IBF , WBO You win the inter WBC then have to fight the lineal WBC or else you are dropped from the interim belt. Like a mini tournament in the division top 10 Want to be 1 in that division capture 2 or more of the lineal champions or undisputed No ducking the guys with all the lineal belts must fight each other or be stripped
@@jonathanthrasher70 Unrivaled definitely sounds alot cooler 💯 Even tho I could see a boxer with just the WBA belt vs a boxer with the other 3 definitely being rivals . Kinda like tank & lomochenko
@@twenty-2923 That’s a great and fun way to go about picking a champion . I don’t know how but I would like the Ring belt to be seen as the lineal champ belt for each weight division . Like the only belt that can be took by defeat or retiring .
@@suitedandbooted363no other organization has good enough comp to compete with the ufc look at the recent panotja asakura fight bellator pfl and one fighters dont compare to ufc fighters and it sucks to say look at de-ridder
I chuckled at the WBC special occasion Oprah championships, "You get a belt, and you get a belt, and you get a belt" Everyone has to have a frikken belt.
I think 4 best is fine (to much but ok whatever) for me the problem is the “super” “regular” “silver “ “world champion “ titles are horrible. Have the 4 belt be the REAL or lineal world title and have an interim belt with a different look to not be confusing to the public. The fighter or fighters that win each 1 of the titles are ranked 1,2,3,4 and must fight each other to be unified or undisputed thus making the one that hold the most or all the belts in that division is the #1 in that weight class. These sanctions are making belts just to collect money from the fighters
Sorry, but you are incorrect if you comparing The ring magazine to the IBO or any other unrecognized sanctions. a ring magazine belt is a special belt then not all fighters can get, is a pretty much a lineal belt meaning that you are the top champion in that division and keep in mind that the ring magazine is one of the oldest belt’s that dates back from 1922.
If your a boxer with no star power, the the ibf is a good organization for you. I mean once you became a number 1 contender in their organization, you have a guaranteed title shot. As long as you don't accept step aside money.
Cloister, I feel like boxing YT is missing a video that discusses the merits and history of the less-well known belts. I’ve always been curious as to what people actually think of the IBO and WBF.
Thanks for the video. I'd be interested in a follow up as to how the 'Mandatories' and the rankings etc work for different bodies, and a bit of an explanation as to why, for example in super bantamweight, you have Sam Goodman as the #1 ranked contender in IBF and WBO but he is #7 in WBC. Or why Marlon Tapales is ranked #2, #5, and #3 in in WBC, WBA and IBF respectively. I have a fairly basic understanding of it but find it very hard to explain to people. Also why often Mandatories don't fight the champ, like at the moment Zepeda is #1 contender in all 4 bodies for lightweight, but he is fighting Carbera
The WBA And The WBC Is The Problem With These Belts Bein Useless... Imagine You gotta pay a sanctionin fee for a REGULAR WBA Belt... Not knowing that there's a SUPER WBA champion belt that you should've been goin after 😤
I like 2 belts....gives fighters a choice of 2 paths to get to the top, and it also still gives us a unification bout...3 is alright too...Tysons era..but 4 is 1 or 2, to many.
No it’s not the ring isn’t even an organization, they don’t have a system, they don’t organize fights and they don’t have rules or drug test fighters. They’re a glorified boxrec
They should try a ranking system similar to College Football’s AP poll. Have all accredited boxing media vote on a top 15 every month for every weight class. Combine this concept with the Ring Magazine Title holder policy. Or put it another way, the Ring Magazine should expand its ratings panel to include all boxing media. ABC sanctioning bodies can play role by ranking fighters all the way down to the club fighter level but the top 15 are voted on and published by boxing journalists with only one recognized world champion.
Well being the Lineal champion means you should hold the Ring magazine belt... normally the man who beat the man will hold the Ring magazine belt.... so it does mean something and have recognition in history...
IMHO I think the only belts that matter in descending order are the four main belts, the ring belt, the continental and intercontinental belts, and the national belts.
WBC Franchise belt was never officially explained, even Mauricio couldn't explain it. Eventually, it was dropped, but it was labeled as the "duck" belt. What I've always wondered is whether or not WBO champs like Naseem Hamed and Marco Antonio Barrera were recognized even though the WBO wasn't officially accepted until 2004, Oscar v Hopkins
Actually the wba and wbo has differentl super champions. Currently the wba has two belts, the regular and super belt. But don't get confused the super belt is the real champion not the regular belt. If the super champion decides to vacate it then the regular title belt holder will be upgraded to super champion. I really hate this two belt system that wba has but I read from an article that they plan to remove it. The wbo on the other hand does have a two belt system like the wba. Like the video said if you the wbo title holder had multiple defenses of your current wbo title then the wbo will upgrade you to super champion meaning for example you decide to move up in weight you will become the direct mandatory for the wbo title in the higher weight class. For example a lightweight boxer who has a wbo title belt and he got upgraded to super champion. He will become the direct mandatory for the Evo super lightweight title if he decides to move up. If you guys are still confused there is a TH-cam by the name of officehanchoboxing. He has video explaining about world title belts, go check him out.
Not entirely true. The WBO does have a super championship but they don’t have a two belt system, as in when a fighter becomes super champion, they are still the sole WBO champion in that weight class, They don’t create a secondary championship like the WBA.
Only amateur boxers compete in the Olympics it's the highest point ifor an amateur career. If u win a medal your lining yourself up for a quick title shot in the pros and promoters will be throwing money at you
Yes if you have good amateur credentials then you can potentially have a world title in the least amount of fights. Basically you skip the side quests.
Boxing should drop all these Velcro alphabet soup titles and utilize an AP style ranking combined with the Ring Magazine. In other words, expand The Ring ratings panel to include ALL boxing media to vote on monthly rankings as well as standardize rules for title retention
do boxers still do mandatory fights to keep the belts? I feel like they should bring that back. i havent seen a good heavyweight fight since klitschko and lennox and that was a mandatory. People dont fight for the sake of strength and legacy anymore, just "if the moneys right" which I get but your robbing the people and making boxing a joke of a sport. Ever heard of no risk no reward
Yes they do. but sometimes they pay them step aside money in order for the champion not to fight their mandatories. But sometimes they do fight their mandatories it actually depends on the fighter who holds the belt. I mean the only boxer I know who fought his mandatories was former boxer Bernard Hopkins.
Lol your alrdy severely wrong the ring championship and lineal championship are sianimous with eachother as the the ring only awards the belt to people ranked #1 or 2 and the only way to win it is to beat the lineal champion or become undisputed dam casuals makin videos now makin the boxing fan base brain rot grow
The ring belt is considered as a lineal belt, it usually coincides with who is considered the lineal champ at the time but sometimes it doesn’t. Being “lineal” champ is more of a title rather than a belt with its roots tracing back even before the ring
Klitchko WAS NOT LINEAL. He Was not the best his brother was, his brother retired Bermaine Stiverne took his belt then Wilder took it and Klitchko was supposed to fight wilder for undisputed but he ducked for fury who was supposed to Be on drug suspension for Nandrolone for Christian hammer fighter 😂😂😂😂
Vitali was the best for a short stretch after Lewis retired in 2004, but he himself retired in 2005. Wladimir was seen as the man as early as his Byrd fight in 2006, but his official coronation was in 2009 after the Chagaev fight. After that he beat 3 top contenders to solidify his claim. Vitali returned in 2008 but was fighting second and third tier heavyweights, never being considered better than his brother. Wlad was definitely the lineal champion and trying to rewrite history now because of the Fury hate is silly.
@jw6143 The weight divisions in UFC are : Flyweight(125) , Bantamweight(135) , Featherweight(145) , Lightweight(155) , Welterweight(170) , MiddleWeight(185) , Light Heavyweight(205), Heavyweight(260) .. Actually it's my bad I should have written UFC there and not MMA . Coz there are other organisations that do MMA events too ... Like OneFC, Bellator, PFL, BraveCf , etc....
@jw6143 actually my bad , I should have written UFC and not MMA ... Because there are other corporations too . Like OneFC , Bellator , PFL , BraveCf etc ...
4 belts feel cooler in a way but it doesn’t work out when belt holders refuse to fight each other
And turrible mandatory fights
In Japan, a fighter have to either have won the JBC belt (Japanese national title) or the OPBF belt (ocean pacific regional title) to be eligible for fighting for a world title.
Yes, they do. In America you need the NABO and NABF. in Europe, they have the EBU. But each country in Europe also has their national belts. In the UK you probably need the British title or the Commonwealth title.
That's a dope concept
I only know that because of Hajime no Ippo.😂
@@outlaw._.lazinessame bro 😂
@@Franics_699There is also the USBA and NABA, these are linked to the sanctioning bodies
I think champions should be labeled like This :
1 belt = Champion
2 belt = unified champion
3 belts = unequivocally champion
4 belts = Undisputed champion
Agree. I like how boxing has multiple belts due to unifications.
Yea that’s how I view it but my problem is with these belts that look the same and have a dumb name
Regular, super , silver all the same.
Lineal WBC , WBA, IBF WBO world champion
Interim WBC, WBA , IBF , WBO
You win the inter WBC then have to fight the lineal WBC or else you are dropped from the interim belt.
Like a mini tournament in the division top 10
Want to be 1 in that division capture 2 or more of the lineal champions or undisputed
No ducking the guys with all the lineal belts must fight each other or be stripped
I vote calling 3 belts Unrivaled Champion as having 3 of the 4 belts means no one is an equal rival
@@jonathanthrasher70
Unrivaled definitely sounds alot cooler 💯
Even tho I could see a boxer with just the WBA belt vs a boxer with the other 3 definitely being rivals . Kinda like tank & lomochenko
@@twenty-2923
That’s a great and fun way to go about picking a champion . I don’t know how but I would like the Ring belt to be seen as the lineal champ belt for each weight division . Like the only belt that can be took by defeat or retiring .
My favourite new combat sports channel. Please dont slow down on the content, its fantastic
You should check proppa boxing as well
@@matiasfuentealba898 that’s another one of my favourites. I love their humour
Thank you for breaking this down, I can’t keep track of the belts any more
Great work. Keep it up, good boxing content is hard to find
Thank you bro!
This vid does a pretty good job of layin everything out clearly, nice work!
Thanks mate, appreciate you watching!
Thanks man I started boxing a year and a half ish ago and I have been learning a lot,this help me a ton ,thanks
All good brother, wish you the best in learning the sweet science!
UFC got it right
Ufc is absolute trash man, 2 white guys with tattoos and naked rolling on top of each other for 15 mins
Not really. UFC Champions dont fight Champions from other organisations to prove they are they best. The sport isn’t called UFC, its called MMA
@@suitedandbooted363no other organization has good enough comp to compete with the ufc look at the recent panotja asakura fight bellator pfl and one fighters dont compare to ufc fighters and it sucks to say look at de-ridder
@@suitedandbooted363 thats the issue with private orgatnitations, same as glory, ONE, belator etc
Yes, on point @@suitedandbooted363
love your content bro! always watch you when I’m eating LOL
I chuckled at the WBC special occasion Oprah championships, "You get a belt, and you get a belt, and you get a belt" Everyone has to have a frikken belt.
6:15 he got the "lgbtq champion belt" 😂
My guy😂😂
I think 4 best is fine (to much but ok whatever) for me the problem is the “super” “regular” “silver “ “world champion “ titles are horrible. Have the 4 belt be the REAL or lineal world title and have an interim belt with a different look to not be confusing to the public. The fighter or fighters that win each 1 of the titles are ranked 1,2,3,4 and must fight each other to be unified or undisputed thus making the one that hold the most or all the belts in that division is the #1 in that weight class.
These sanctions are making belts just to collect money from the fighters
True just t give them medals or something like that only the champs should get a belt
Sorry, but you are incorrect if you comparing The ring magazine to the IBO or any other unrecognized sanctions. a ring magazine belt is a special belt then not all fighters can get, is a pretty much a lineal belt meaning that you are the top champion in that division and keep in mind that the ring magazine is one of the oldest belt’s that dates back from 1922.
True but you don't need it to be considered undisputed
If your a boxer with no star power, the the ibf is a good organization for you. I mean once you became a number 1 contender in their organization, you have a guaranteed title shot. As long as you don't accept step aside money.
Cloister, I feel like boxing YT is missing a video that discusses the merits and history of the less-well known belts. I’ve always been curious as to what people actually think of the IBO and WBF.
Never heard of the WBF belt before, I like that its blue though
It’s mainly used for boxers to rise up who are fighting in third world countries, like African and south East Asian countries.
Shane Mosley Jr has a intercontinental belt. Hopefully he fights for a world title one day
Love this Video
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Thanks for the video. I'd be interested in a follow up as to how the 'Mandatories' and the rankings etc work for different bodies, and a bit of an explanation as to why, for example in super bantamweight, you have Sam Goodman as the #1 ranked contender in IBF and WBO but he is #7 in WBC. Or why Marlon Tapales is ranked #2, #5, and #3 in in WBC, WBA and IBF respectively. I have a fairly basic understanding of it but find it very hard to explain to people.
Also why often Mandatories don't fight the champ, like at the moment Zepeda is #1 contender in all 4 bodies for lightweight, but he is fighting Carbera
Watch officehanchoboxing he has a video about world title belts
The WBA And The WBC Is The Problem With These Belts Bein Useless...
Imagine You gotta pay a sanctionin fee for a REGULAR WBA Belt... Not knowing that there's a SUPER WBA champion belt that you should've been goin after 😤
Nothing but facts
What’s even worse, the regular champion isn’t even mandated to fight the super champion
Great video. 1 correction - the IBF was formed in 1983 and not 1988. Just WBO was formed in 1988.
I like 2 belts....gives fighters a choice of 2 paths to get to the top, and it also still gives us a unification bout...3 is alright too...Tysons era..but 4 is 1 or 2, to many.
I like the four belts but it would help if the champs ACTUALLY FOUGHT EACH OTHER! We need undisputed champs
Great video
The Ring Magazine belt is a legitimate world championship, i don’t know where you are getting your information from ?
No it’s not the ring isn’t even an organization, they don’t have a system, they don’t organize fights and they don’t have rules or drug test fighters. They’re a glorified boxrec
This helps me out a ton since I'm a sports journalist who is still confused with boxing stuff. Great video!
They should try a ranking system similar to College Football’s AP poll. Have all accredited boxing media vote on a top 15 every month for every weight class. Combine this concept with the Ring Magazine Title holder policy. Or put it another way, the Ring Magazine should expand its ratings panel to include all boxing media. ABC sanctioning bodies can play role by ranking fighters all the way down to the club fighter level but the top 15 are voted on and published by boxing journalists with only one recognized world champion.
Well being the Lineal champion means you should hold the Ring magazine belt... normally the man who beat the man will hold the Ring magazine belt.... so it does mean something and have recognition in history...
IMHO I think the only belts that matter in descending order are the four main belts, the ring belt, the continental and intercontinental belts, and the national belts.
In the words of Mike Tyson: “This is garbage. I bled for garbage!”
4 belts looks great and it helped me see a goal of mine. My problem tho is all the minor belts be making people want to turn boxing into the ufc
Love your work
Appreciate you tuning in!
What about the undisputed belt??? I’ve seen it in the Bivol vs Beterviev fight. What does it mean???
What want to know more about tye IBO and WBF belts
awesome video mate
WBC Franchise belt was never officially explained, even Mauricio couldn't explain it. Eventually, it was dropped, but it was labeled as the "duck" belt.
What I've always wondered is whether or not WBO champs like Naseem Hamed and Marco Antonio Barrera were recognized even though the WBO wasn't officially accepted until 2004, Oscar v Hopkins
I’m genuinely shocked the WBC doesn’t have a intercontinental title. Would of thought they would of loved the extra money
Actually the wba and wbo has differentl super champions. Currently the wba has two belts, the regular and super belt. But don't get confused the super belt is the real champion not the regular belt. If the super champion decides to vacate it then the regular title belt holder will be upgraded to super champion. I really hate this two belt system that wba has but I read from an article that they plan to remove it. The wbo on the other hand does have a two belt system like the wba. Like the video said if you the wbo title holder had multiple defenses of your current wbo title then the wbo will upgrade you to super champion meaning for example you decide to move up in weight you will become the direct mandatory for the wbo title in the higher weight class. For example a lightweight boxer who has a wbo title belt and he got upgraded to super champion. He will become the direct mandatory for the Evo super lightweight title if he decides to move up.
If you guys are still confused there is a TH-cam by the name of officehanchoboxing. He has video explaining about world title belts, go check him out.
Not entirely true. The WBO does have a super championship but they don’t have a two belt system, as in when a fighter becomes super champion, they are still the sole WBO champion in that weight class, They don’t create a secondary championship like the WBA.
What happened to the iBO?
IBO is considered minor.
When a unified champ fights, do they put all their belts in that weight class on the line?
The significance of ring belt should have been mentioned
How important is it for a boxer to compete at an Olympic level?
Only amateur boxers compete in the Olympics it's the highest point ifor an amateur career. If u win a medal your lining yourself up for a quick title shot in the pros and promoters will be throwing money at you
Yes if you have good amateur credentials then you can potentially have a world title in the least amount of fights. Basically you skip the side quests.
Boxing should drop all these Velcro alphabet soup titles and utilize an AP style ranking combined with the Ring Magazine. In other words, expand The Ring ratings panel to include ALL boxing media to vote on monthly rankings as well as standardize rules for title retention
Thank you🙏
FACT CHECK-The IBF was founded in 1983, not 1988.
Ibf wasn't 1988? More like 84-86. Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks had it before Tyson.
This makes me realize how good manny pacquio really is i mean 8 divisions isnt really a joke
The Ring Belt is the True Champion.
The lineal belt is the ring magazine belt I thought?
Ring is who they say is best in the class . Lineal is the man who beat the man and going back .
You can be the lineal champion with no belt
The ring + lineal champion= true champion In the division
@@humbledragger6411lineage the man who beat the man..
@@LUAP1991 I know
The one-off belts are virtually medals, why not just make a trophy or an actual medal lol
Sanctioning bodies are just contender for the THE RING & LINEAL CHAMPION aka TRUE CHAMPION in the DIVISION
What about the EBU belt?
It's a B level belt at best
It's a regional belt in Europe just like there is OPBF in Asia, and NABF and NABO in the us
@@don8244It actually puts you at the top of the regional rankings and a stepping stone for a world title
WBC-We back Canelo
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Has Benavidez activated his mandatory status?
do boxers still do mandatory fights to keep the belts? I feel like they should bring that back. i havent seen a good heavyweight fight since klitschko and lennox and that was a mandatory. People dont fight for the sake of strength and legacy anymore, just "if the moneys right" which I get but your robbing the people and making boxing a joke of a sport. Ever heard of no risk no reward
Yes they do. but sometimes they pay them step aside money in order for the champion not to fight their mandatories. But sometimes they do fight their mandatories it actually depends on the fighter who holds the belt. I mean the only boxer I know who fought his mandatories was former boxer Bernard Hopkins.
Uysk vs fury was a great fight cut it out, your just old and hating
TLDW: they're just participation trophies and don't mean anything.
It's called sanctioning fees.
Its just a money making thing so everyone can make their cut
Lol your alrdy severely wrong the ring championship and lineal championship are sianimous with eachother as the the ring only awards the belt to people ranked #1 or 2 and the only way to win it is to beat the lineal champion or become undisputed dam casuals makin videos now makin the boxing fan base brain rot grow
The ring belt is considered as a lineal belt, it usually coincides with who is considered the lineal champ at the time but sometimes it doesn’t. Being “lineal” champ is more of a title rather than a belt with its roots tracing back even before the ring
You don't need to be undisputed to become the new lineal champion.
@@MaccaveliPLHe’s talking about the Ring Magazine title
This is why mma is so much better 😂😂
Whats jake pauls title
FBC fake boxing council 💯
Tyson fury’s belt- Tk Maxx
Crazy when you realize Jake Paul has a WBC belt
Know how many belt there in boxing there probably 1 billion 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Should be 3 belts bronze silver gold DONE !
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Klitchko WAS NOT LINEAL. He Was not the best his brother was, his brother retired Bermaine Stiverne took his belt then Wilder took it and Klitchko was supposed to fight wilder for undisputed but he ducked for fury who was supposed to
Be on drug suspension for Nandrolone for Christian hammer fighter 😂😂😂😂
Vitali was the best for a short stretch after Lewis retired in 2004, but he himself retired in 2005. Wladimir was seen as the man as early as his Byrd fight in 2006, but his official coronation was in 2009 after the Chagaev fight. After that he beat 3 top contenders to solidify his claim. Vitali returned in 2008 but was fighting second and third tier heavyweights, never being considered better than his brother. Wlad was definitely the lineal champion and trying to rewrite history now because of the Fury hate is silly.
Boxing is Rigged ..
UFC has it right .
One belt only (Interim in rare cases)
Only 8weight classes .
Better Referees & Judges .
There's multiple belts in Mma what are you on about?
@jw6143 The weight divisions in UFC are : Flyweight(125) , Bantamweight(135) , Featherweight(145) , Lightweight(155) , Welterweight(170) , MiddleWeight(185) , Light Heavyweight(205), Heavyweight(260) ..
Actually it's my bad I should have written UFC there and not MMA . Coz there are other organisations that do MMA events too ... Like OneFC, Bellator, PFL, BraveCf , etc....
@jw6143 actually my bad , I should have written UFC and not MMA ... Because there are other corporations too . Like OneFC , Bellator , PFL , BraveCf etc ...
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All those boxing bodies are ruining the sport.