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Freightliner Cascadia *Next Gen version* Optimized Idle on Detroit DD 15 Engine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ม.ค. 2021
- This is for the Next-Gen Cascadia, for the classic Cascadia go to this video: • Freightliner Cascadia ...
How to operate optimized idle in Freightliner Cascadia Next-Gen truck. This video explains how to activate the system and operate the different options. This is a truck with a Detroit DD15 Engine.
This also explains some of the issues people run into when their optimized idle system shuts down.
A couple things to note about this system. Your truck parameters control what your idle parameters are like, so check with your parameters or call your carrier to find out what the idle parameters are like. The next-gen truck has ambient temp idle parameters and a separate optimized idle ambient temp idle parameters. So you can really customize how you control that.
Hopefully this helps explain some more effective ways to operate the optimized idle system and makes it so you can stay comfortable in your truck without running into problems.
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Man that's the best explanation anyone ever gave about this optimized idol mode thing...I even try to read and understand the manual and it seems like they were going in circle now I understand that whole system alot better.
and tonight is one of those nights that is extremely humid and the opti idle wasn't working.....
ha....i reset the dials like you showed, and boom...engine cranked up, air feels so good
i have a channel where i help teach people like you do on yours
thank you
Thanks!!! This is the best explanation I have found so far.
Glad it helped, just trying to make sure everyone can understand the operation and get a good night's sleep.
My mentor had a 2020 Cascadia and we could never figure it out, my company just gave me a 2022 Cascadia and watched this video and tried it out and the inside stayed nice and cool all night long.
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I’ve had mine a full year now.
What a crazy system as it will start and stop the engine 5-10 times during a 10 hour break in the summer. You can literally get cooler air with a fan in the passenger side window if you have one in the bunk. If its 90 at sundown you might as well push the yellow air break in and idle all night if you have good trailer breaks. Good luck your gonna need it.
Oh yeah you shouldn't have it start/stop when above 85. We set our trucks so if it is warmer than 85 it will just run continuously so it doesn't start and stop so much.
Man this video was so helpful. My air kept shutting off in the middle of the night and I couldn’t figure out why. Thanks for the advise bro
Thanks alot I picked this truck up from being deserted never had one of these
Very helpful thank you. I was wondering why interior comfort mode wasn’t working for me because I’m in Utah and it’s just hot and I couldn’t get the the optimized idle to run on it’s on. I got it fixed thanks to you for explaining how it really works.
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Great video I struggled how to set this opti idle i have watched a lot videos but this one solved my problem. Thank you 🙏🏽
I have it in my truck and love it. It's far better than an APU. When I had an APU, it was always breaking down so it ended up being more expensive than just idling the truck. I've heard other drivers say the same thing.
What in case messaged:Optimize idle : Not available?
Ty
Great explanation. Thanks the person who showed me truck the first time explained it all the way wrong lol 😂 safe travels brotha
Finally!!! An explanation that actually works!🥳
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THANK YOU!!!!
I was so fkn frustrated because i couldn't get it to work! I was using the front air control knobs instead of the bunk controls. Thank you so much!!!!
Thanks bro, I was doing it all wrong. I was wondering why it was just blowing warm air. Now it’s blowing nice and frosty lol
Best video I’ve seen, thank you you answered all of my questions and solved all the issues I was having 😂😂😂 this is my 8th video I watched btw before someone hit the main issue
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This was very helpful. Thank you!!!
Thanks 😊 you so much. I'm in south Florida it's 82° at 4am
Hate optimized idle (cuts off my radio when I'm watching a movie or listioning to a game or just listening to music as I relax, also turns on and shakes me awake at night great job freightliner ....it's not like my old truck when on idle the hum of the engine helped me sleep
The new trucks fun on battery power and don't require a generator.
Put your jake brake on all the way and it doesn't shake as badly shutting down
@@Muddyowns my a/c won't run with the engine off. All fans shut down.
@@byronmcmickle4053 Dang, that's not good.
I try shit on last night
I couldn't sleep I thought somebody hit me from the back of the truck turned on
Real quick and concise. Thank you
That’s the whole point to the entire channel. Keep it quick and get the information across easily
I've found it works best when "on" btw...plz see @ when he mentions that elective. Thought I'd mention that. Hope that helps, Drivers. Safe travels and happiness be withyu!
Really needed this info. Thnx👍👍🍺🍺😊
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Excellent explanation! Thank you
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Thanks for very good explanation.
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this is an awesome informative video! My optimized idle doesnt ask me about interior comfort tho?
YOU ARE AWESOME, THANKS SO MUCH!!!
Do you have to keep the key in the opposition or can you turn it off after enabling
So awesome THANKS!!
I was going to use the air brake lock and make something that plugs in to the 12v and it will push the override engine shut down button for me on a regular timer use
Dude, thank you!!!
Does the dash knobs have to be sitting on or do they need to off
I appreciate your input! I got to say - what a confusing system. It would be so much easier if Freightliner had a Auto Climate control setting all together like most modern cars. Set the temperature in the cab to 68 degrees and continue to maintain temperature (heat or A/C) until the ignition is turned to the Off position. I read the “Interior Comfort” setting as a setting I want while I’m not driving down the road, but it’s not so simple. Weird design.
Yes thanks. That helped a lot.
Mine is blowing hot air what do I do to get it to blow cold air?
How long its take time for engine may start for standby
Looks like you must keep the key turned over to the on position, is that correct?
Does comfort mode on turn the truck off n on To cause when i use bsttery mode the fruck dient turn on till 12.3 or maybe lower n my tv n everzthinh n inverter shuts off when the truck starts cause its starting too low voltage
My battery load shed comes on with interior comfort off. Is that OK?
Hey.... so loved the explanation. Thanks. But do you know how the built in refrigerator works. Like how to make it colder and if it will turn off when the truck is off? Please let me know. Thanks
So, I am assuming yours works like ours. The refrigerator has a temp adjustment in the fridge usually towards the top.
And you can't make it shut off when you turn off the truck, the only way to turn it off is with the power kill switch to the whole truck.
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Best video ever 👌👌
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Is there a way to control whether or not the blower runs when the engine is shut off? If Optimized Idle is in heat mode, you might not want to have the blower running when the engine is shut off, because you're creating a cool draft. If Optimized Idle is in A/C mode, you might want the fan to keep running even when the tractor isn't running, because circulating that air will keep you from getting too hot in the sleeper.
Great video. One question, does the ignition key need to be in the on position for the optimized idle to work? Or just when you're setting the main control to on or off?
Key HAS to be in the ON position. The truck cannot start if the key is not in the on position. That is one of the safeties of the system.
THANK YOU!
Amazing !!
What position should the key be in
So do we leave the switch "on" all night ?
lol thanks finally someone with brains
Thanks man,! Ive also realized there is a bunk button on the front of my dash. It keeps blinking whenever I push it. The other night, I guess it decided to work because it was like laying on a heated blanket. 🙃 Could you do a video on how to operate it effectively?
Thanks for all you do.
I am not sure I understood what button you are talking about? A bunk button on the front of your dash? What do you mean exactly?
I am driving Cascadia in 2022. I would like to ask you, does Cascadia have an engine block heater plug function? Under my driver's door, there is a power socket. I don't know what it does? I want to know that it is winter now, and in the cold weather below freezing, what can we do before starting the engine?
Yes they do have block heaters if the truck was built with one. You can certainly plug into that plug below your door and it will start warming the engine.
Thank you so much sir.
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@@skylerdroubay8209 absolutely 😊
It's 16 degrees tonight. I just set optimized idle to battery mode, no interior comfort, and I'm running the Espar heater. The truck turned on and has been idling for a while now... Is this thing ever gonna turn off?
Well...yes it should. Of course there can be sensors that go bad or other problems that can cause it to not work properly. However, when we have run into this where it runs in battery mode for a long time it usually means there is a bad battery(s) and last month a truck with a bad alternator was also doing that. But my suggestion would be to: 1. Look at your battery voltage on the dash both when it is running and when it is off. If when running it should be above 14, if not we have a battery or alternator issue. When it is off if it drops down below 12.3 then it will have to start back up and stay running because the voltage is too low which would mean bad batteries.
If you put your engine brakes down all the way the truck doesn't shake nearly as bad when shutting down as well
I swear if I've been having constant issues during this summer in my first truck as a new driver because I've been setting the temp too low on the cab thermostat, I'm going to blow my shit. Its 81 degrees on the Webasto s-bar heater with interior comfort/ standby mode on and the truck still hasn't turned back on after initially cooling down. 81 and I'm sweating like a pig in the sun without a mud bath. All my company said too do was not use opti idle and just idle the truck with the idle adjusted higher. But doing that nearly d-rated the truck because it wasn't regening.
I just got a 23. And I’m hot. It’s nice outside but I’m not opening my windows for obvious reasons. But this Pos won’t turn on.
Loce the video, but where do I set the front ac controls to?
Doesn't matter, but I usually put them in a position similar to my rear controls. However, it is the rear that does all the work.
If i want comfort off do i leave the key on on position too?
Yes key always has to be in the on position. The engine cannot turn on by itself if the key is not on.
Hi, my 2022 only has the first three options listed. There is no option for an optimized idle? Is there another way to get an optimized idle? Thanks for your response!
So your truck does have to be spec'd with optimized idle from the factory. It is not a standard automatic option. So if it doesn't show up then it is not spec'd for it. As far as I know if this is the case then you can't add it after however I cannot say that is for sure the case. After all, all it needs is a hood sensor and a software change and then it can do it. So you might ask freightliner if you can add it after the fact.
I have the same issue, choose idle adjust and use the arrows on the steering wheel to up the rpms
Hello , how can I do to keep the truck running all night 🌙 ? Thank you 😊
Those are in the parameters. So the best way is to use optimized idle, but your parameters could still be set to shut down optimized idle during certain temperatures. You driving a company truck or your own truck?
Im still confused . Mine was blowing and completely stopped . And it was hot af outside and it wouldn’t blow ac in the bunk .
Did you have your AC turned all the way down? If so it will cause it to shut down because it wont' reach temperature. Leave the temperature dial closer to the middle and it won't shut down on you
On the ac snowflake button it has the color green then when pressed again blue. Do you know the difference between the two colors?
So it is a weird thing.
No light - AC off
Green light - eco AC
Blue light - full AC.
It is a weird feature. So when you turn on the AC you should be able to turn it to blue but after 45 minutes it will go green and the AC compressor won't run constantly, but will turn on and off so it doesn't run all the time. It was Freightliner's attempt to "save fuel." In moderate conditions it is fine. But in hot conditions you might feel like all the sudden your AC is doing a poor job and it is because it has gone into eco mode. You can click the button to turn it back to blue and then your compressor will run full time again. But unfortunately it will do this every 45 minutes and you have to switch it back each time.
@@DDTruckDriver so it's best just to leave it on green then right?
@@rockusa6442 If green is keeping you cool then yes. But if you are feeling like it is getting hot then switch it back to blue. It won't hurt anything, it just makes the ac compressor run all the time which is what they normally do anyways.
My comfort mode is hot asf in the front even tho I have it on cold and cold in the back but front so hot it's uncomfortable in the back how do I fix that
Did the other video fix this issue?
Does the key have to be on for optimized idle
Yes, the truck can't start if the key is not in the on position.
Ty
What if I'm not getting power to the espar heater controle?
Different problem. And that could be a few things, tough to say without being there. Do you have a espar? A lot of new trucks were built with the controller but didn't get the actual heater due to a huge back order
Thanks 👍🏼
You bet!
Go back to the Punjab. The US and Canada is turning into a Sikh nation.. The most dangerous drivers on the road.
So the key has to stay in the on position? Interior dash lights and radio stays on? I guess turn the radio off and cover the lights. Makes me nervous about the batteries. I know, the truck should start. Lol thanks for a good explanation.
Yes, so all of your normal functions with the Key on will continue to work the same way. But the batteries will be fine because the truck will monitor the battery power. So if your batteries get too low, the truck will start to charge them back up.
@@DDTruckDriver good to know with winter closing in. Thanks.
I have mine set to warm air but the air coming out of the vents is still cold how do I fix that? It was close to 50 degrees last night and I was freezing!
It is hard to diagnosis online and if something is broken I wouldn't know what is wrong. Did you have your blower turned up?
close to 50 just open the windows wtf
can anyone advise how to trick IDLE on 2023 FTL model. We cannot shut it down since there is restriction
Give us more info. Do you mean the truck is shutting you down but you need it to keep running?
The temperature adjustment knob on my bunk controls says “PARK” with a light under it that illuminates if I click it. Any idea how that works? Can’t find any good info. Thanks.
What year, make, and model?
@@DDTruckDriver Sorry it’s a 2020 Cascadia. Looks just like the one in the video only my rear bunk temp knob says “Park” on it.
@@Ward413 Gosh that sounds really familiar, I think that is a different system that just idles the truck constantly but I could be misspeaking there, I don't have experience with that version, sorry about that.
@@DDTruckDriver Naw you’re good man, I appreciate the reply and the informative video nonetheless.
Is that espar thing heater only ?
Yes it burns diesel to make FIRE
Mine didn’t work, you can also push in the yellow knob and pull the red one
Mine doesn’t have that option
So I have Espar but no Opti idle, sitting in 40 degree weather with no way to keep the engine running or the heater on. No Opti idle option under vehicle settings menu. I have a 2019 Cascadia
Having optimized idle is very nice to have as well. If you don't have that but do have the bunk heater, usually with good batteries your espar can run for 8-10 hours before your batteries need to be charged up though.
@@DDTruckDriver when the truck is running, air comes out the bunker vents full force. Once the truck is off I only get air coming out the small circle vent on the floor.
@@TheLegendaryt2 Yes that is correct, all the vents are controlled by the truck except for the small one under your bunk. So once you turn off the truck you will only get air out of the small one under your bunk. And if your bunk heater is working properly that will be plenty to keep your warm all night long. It takes about 5-10 minutes to get going but it will put out hot air all night.
@@DDTruckDriver crazy, the only night I got it to work properly was in 50 degree weather. I was in sub 30s the past 3 days. But I got it all figured out now. It helps to run the heat full blast in the bunk while driving and to keep the curtains closed.
Can you use espar heater with truck completely off?
Yes you can. It does depend on the truck and model year though on if the key can be in the off position or in the on position.
@@DDTruckDriver It just started getting cold enough for me at night to run a heater. The espar runs for a cycle to get up to temperature I assume but then won’t turn back on to maintain that temperature, I have to manually reset the display to get it to start again. I haven’t tried the Opti-idle feature yet. But I will tonight. I hope it works better with the Opti-idle.
I don't have any of that on my 2024! No where in my dash does it say that
I don’t have it either on Cascadia 2024
Anyone know how to fix when it says crank alarm fault opti-idle disabled
I don't know what that specifically is and how to address it. However, if the engine thinks it has a problem then the optimized idle won't run (as it has to run the engine) so most engine codes that need to be fixed at a shop won't allow opt idle to work
Your engine has and alarm that sounds to alert anyone around the truck that optimized idle is about to start the the truck. Sounds like you alarm is malfunctioning for some reason and the computer has disabled optimized idle until you get the alarm fixed.
My issue is, I turn it on, and set the temp. The truck turns off and 30 minutes later, I am sweating, and it never turns back on. So, I give up, just going to run the truck.
Damn I tried it but I guess it’s something in circuit it came on then shat off 😭😭😭
Best experience on this subject. Now why does my truck blow burning hot air in the summer wit a/c on? This only happens in the sleeper, the driver can be frozen solid.
Brand new truck,, I mean come on why doesn’t it work?
Glad it helped! As for the reason on your other issue, it is hard to say without more information. But make sure you aren't cranking the AC all the way on full blast, that can freeze things up as well it can make the truck think there is something wrong if it feels like it isn't reaching the temperature you are asking for. If you are fully cranked on AC try backing it off a bit.
@@DDTruckDriver hey I found out a solution for my a/c only working in the sleeper! So I found out there is a valve that basically splits the system in 2 between the main cabin and sleeper. The valve is located above the fuel tank on driver side where the a/c hoses enter the sleeper. It gets stuck or malfunctions and all you need to do is tap it with a wrench or light hammer to open it up. Might need replacing but this has worked so far.
@@withwhatyougot7993 That is a great tip, thanks for sharing.
How can ido to use just idle? Not optimized idle?
You just idle. But a lot of trucks have idle parameters that stop them from idling, you have to plug into the truck to change that.
Thx
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Se ve interesante.. hubiera gustado q esté en castellano
Haha bueno, ven a enseñarme un poco de español y el próximo video puede ser en español
I want to keep it cool below 70 all year long it doesn’t work for me if let’s if way to hot and the. I’m up starting the truck
What years are this in?
What year trucks have the optimized idle? They’ve been doing optimize idle for many years. But it’s not a standard feature, your company or you if you built your truck, would have to spec it with that from the factory. But it’s only like $100 to put on the truck so it’s the greatest hundred dollars you’ll spend.
How do I make it idle constantly?
Those are all settings. So a couple ways. If your optimized idle settings are set up properly when the outside temp is above and below a certain temperature it will run constantly. If you settings are set up you can use the idle adjustment page on the dash to elevate the idle and it will stay running. But both of those require the parameters to allow this.
@@DDTruckDriver thanks for the reply. Anyway I raised the rpm and it still dies after a short period of time. I think it’s the way it’s been programmed from factory. So annoying lol
@@mapkrk1316 You can easily change it if someone has the software. But finding someone who will do it for free is tough sometimes.
I used to wonder why some trucks would turn on & off at truck stops now I know.
Don't you feel empowered by your new knowledge.
I don't have that setting, hmm same dashboard cluster though in a cascadia.
oh well, idle it is, 🤷
Which is totally possibly, this has to be put on the truck at the factory. So the dash is the same, truck is the same, it is just a simple sensor they add to the hood and then they turn on optimized idle in the parameters and there it is. So if your truck was not built with optimized idle you wouldn't see it in your options.
WHY DOES IT TAKE 1 HR TO 2 HR FOR IT TO START UP AGAIN
Depends on how you are running it. The truck will not maintain it exactly at your set temperature, it will do something like + or - 3 to 5 degrees. Meaning if you have your temp dial set right in the middle that is basically setting your temperature at 72 degrees. So the truck will try to maintain that, but once it shuts off it will let the temperature go to 69 or 76 degrees before it fires back up. This way your truck isn't working its guts out all the time to try and be perfect with temperature.
The other scenario, let's say you have your temp dial turned way down in the blue so it is trying to maintain 60 degrees. If it is warm outside that is very hard for the truck to do and if it is trying and trying to cool down the truck but cannot do it, then after about 1 hour it gives up and it shuts down and doesn't start back up for a while or sometimes it won't start back up at all in case something is wrong and you have to start everything over again.
@@DDTruckDriver got it thank u
I still don’t get why US trucks don’t have park heaters and park AC like European trucks have.
I don't have that menu. And the apu broke down
It is likely your truck was not built with that feature then. Especially if you have an APU, people don't usually put on the APU if they have optimized idle.
@@DDTruckDriver come to find out,my boss had that disconnected. Lol
And that if the truck is programmed to have this option my friend😢
When I get to the truck settings, it doesn’t have any of those choices. It says something about soot levels
So this is something that they have to spec on the truck when they build it. It is possible that on your truck they removed that option from the spec and it won't show up for you
@@DDTruckDriver ok, thanks. Guess I have to get this APU fixed
Never turn the Espar heater all the way & go to sleep it will get 150 degrees even when it's 10 degrees outside.😢
Except my esbar is junk. No flame and no one wants to bother fixing it.
Only a good deal if you truck has that option
So true, and what is worse is when you find out how much it is to add it at the factory...it is ridiculous that anyone skips this option.
Have I ever used it down in Laredo, Phoenix, Nogales ??? Nope I just am telling how it works in theory. No sweat or lost sleep on my end.
Ok , got that part to at least work ,
Now , how do you just get this bucket of cusswords to just stay running ?
10 gal. of fuel is still cheaper than a motel ,
So you can adjust all the settings to allow it to run. However you have to have the program to plug in to the truck to adjust those parameters. And that program costs a few hundred dollars and it is not easy to use. The nice thing is it is very customizable though so you can really make it work however you would like it to
Absolute junk! It cools the truck then shuts off. But it gets way too hot before it kicks on and starts cooling again. Then it struggles to get the cab cool again. It needs to start up sooner before the cab gets too hot.
Piece of junk, mine cuts off states hood open, damn thing don't realize that I'm parked on a fucking hill . Seems like some engineer smart would have thought about that .
Just shows how smart are smart people really are 😢