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- I kinda miss the old Lapras. Not the fully broken OP Lapras but just a little taste of its former power would be cool. Here is a water pulse ice beam Lapras Build! Yeehaw Become a channel member today!:
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The way Slowbro got a buff but Lapras hasn't had anything in forever 😭
In the time that they have not touched Lapras, they have somehow found ways to buff Slowbro, Trev and Umbreon
Slowbro buffs are due his new skin. It will probably get nerfed in the next patch
@@IthquaisChibi what about machamp(nerfed him for no reason) ,charizard(true damage back, if tyranitar can have it ) greeninja(inc hp and decrease cooldown), tsareena ,zerora
@@siddharth4733 Tsareena is actually good, just high skill, Char is about to get buffed and Gren is still viable if you know how to play. Also, I'm pissed for Meow cuz how'd they nerf meow but let leafeon keep its broken attack stat
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I’d love to see Lapras get a buff to her basic attack range. It’s just short enough that it feels too often you have to overly expose yourself to try and poke or draw wild Pokémon aggro, especially for a Pokémon with no mobility in their base kit (like Squirtle with Skull Bash)
She needs range in all of her moves.
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I stopped playing Lapras after the last set of nerfs even though it's my favorite defender, until yesterday that is. I queued into a match of three attackers and a speedster, and one of them started spamming defender needed. I was going to lock in my go-to, Umbreon, but then I was like "nah frick this and frick these guys I'm gunna goof" and switched to Lapras. We ended up winning and I remembered just how much I love playing Lapras so I'm back to playing it when we don't need an impenetrable wall for a defender.
Regarding buffs, I think they need to bring back some of the damage, or rework the moves to actually suit the defender role. Perish song is a joke and water pulse is just a tickle. Lapras's CC is pathetic and that's a big part of what makes a defender good, so what can Lapras actually do besides soak up damage? I've had so many frustrating moments where I'm trying to defend while my allies take an objective and opponents can just completely ignore me because there's nothing I can do to stop them. Not enough damage to scare them off with the threat of a KO, and no real CC to keep them out of range. Other defenders like Crustle, Slowbro, Umbreon, Mamoswine, Blastoise and even Snorlax have really strong CC in their kits for moments like these and Lapras... has either a tiny patch of ice that can easily be side stepped or some bubbles that hold you for like, a half a second? I just feel like on a fundamental level, Lapras doesn't work as it is now. The considerable damage output made up for the lack of control it had. To be clear, I do NOT want to see the return of release Lapras. That was gross. I DO want to see Lapras be good at what it was designed to do.
I clicked "Read more" and gasped for dear life 💀Miss thing typed out an essay lmfaooo!!! But you made some very valid points 👏
@@elijahmims1928 I am very passionate about Lapras lmfao
Stopped playing Lapras after those nerfs too. I'd opt for reworking moves to make it function more like a Defender. Changes I'd love to see would be;
- Decrease Unite-Move Cooldown to among lowest in the game to between 82-89 Seconds but probably nerf damage again to make it more of a utility move
- Revert nerf to Lapras passive, making it take less damage from strong attacks
- Decrease Whirlpool Cooldown to only have 1 second downtime between the next usage
- Decrease Ice Shard Cooldown by about a couple or so seconds
- Widen Ice Beam floor area after-affect and when this move is used on your own base it'll cover the whole radius as well
- Bubble Beam Cooldown lowered about a second and when this move is used on your own base bubbles will appear and last awhile around the base circle
- Water Pulse increased slow CC on opponents
- Perish Song stun on third consecutive hit
@@jakiru8783 Love these ideas. One change I would make to bubble beam is have it so they can't go into/through walls and instead bounce off of them. I specifically imagine this for the channels that lead into the central area surrounding the Rayquaza pit. Also, imagine being able to get stuck in several bubbles. After one pops if you're not careful you just get stuck in another.
@@maskedfoxx7173 Thanks!
That Bubble Beam idea sounds like so much fun actually! That'd be great!
I think they could bring back its Unite cooldown and boosted auto healing a bit back up. Both beams are viable, perish song is a little bit weak, so maybe a tiny tweak there. It would be cool to see true damage on 3rd hit from perish but that would be very strong.
It’s crazy how well that early game went when you have a lane Dragapult in your lane taking points from you off the ground and even breaking the goal when you’re trying to stack.
Your Elde healing 124k is WILD
Lol, Eldegoss is gonna eventually get another nerf. That thing dominates.
Give Perish song boosted between each hit before 11.
If you wanna get crazy, give Perish song a stun if all 3 hits hit, and they don't die. It needs a little more CC now that it's damage has been so nerfed.
Finally someone is talking abt it. Lapras was a pkmn i loved playing but it got nerfs after nerfs and obviously it came out too strong, but getting so many nerfs all over his kit, now its subpar in comparisom to other defenders.
Lapras buffs could certainly be used and I'll list some things I'd love to see, in Patch Note style.
- Decrease Unite-Move Cooldown to among lowest in the game to between 82-89 Seconds
- However, also nerf damage significantly to make it primarily a utility move
> Lapras' unite is one of the most unique things about it which very much fits for its role as a Defender so highlighting this aspect will give it a stronger identity.
- Revert nerf to Lapras passive, making it take less damage from strong attacks
> Ever since the passive nerf its been noticeably less bulky and by buffing this without touching the boosted basic healing its a step closer to being an actual bulky Defender without fully going back to when it was OP, allowing for it to still rely on a little healing from Supports.
- Decrease Whirlpool Cooldown to only have 1 second downtime between the next usage
- Decrease Ice Shard Cooldown by about a couple or so seconds
> Lapras' early game has always been lacking and its not actually that good at defending at this stage due to high cooldowns so these changes should help remedy that and levels that still use Ice Shard.
- Widen Ice Beam floor area after-affect
- When this move is used on your own base it'll cover the whole radius as well
> Gives the move much needed space control and base defense.
- Bubble Beam Cooldown lowered about a second
- When this move is used on your own base bubbles will appear and last awhile around the base circle
> Gives more instances of CC and adds extra base defensibility that is sorely missing.
- General adjustments to make people less inclined to stack for damage on Lapras
> Make Defenders focus on protecting teammates more instead of being All-Rounder-like damage dealers.
With this collection of many buffs and a couple nerfs it should be moved in the right direction of actually feeling like a Defender. Water Pulse & Perish Song are its main attacking moves so I didn't think those need changes yet but if Lapras was still too weak after all this they could add a stronger slow to WP and a stun to the final consecutive hit of Perish Song.
Jake out here proving every Pokémon is viable.
Except Water Bear 😂
@@georgeg9779 it’s funny because that was my first buy back in the day. I picked up unite recently and made it to masters with slowbro and venusaur
The only thing I don’t like about Pokemon Unite is that no matter how well your entire team is doing, even if you’re so far ahead in scoring and taking down goal zones, the opposing team can make a complete comeback if they just happen to get the Rayquaza kill.
It’s like all the hard work and teamwork your team put in counts for nothing.
I think a little more range on it's basics and water pulse would be cool. Also increase the additional pulses by one
That would be a good change
Charizard in the sky. I can fly twice as highhh. Take a look, it’s not a Muk, it’s Charizardddd
I spent this whole video trying to figure out how water pulse works
I want Lapras to be buffed so bad. I think if they just gave it a low unite cooldown again then it will have the engage tool it needs to win team fights. And maybe buff to its boosted auto. It doesn't need much
I don't think it needs more damage, just more utility and survivability. Buff its healing, its CC, maybe defenses, but no need for it to be an all-rounder like it was!
Lapras is in a similar place to that of water bear. The devs nerfed them multiple times bcoz they were strong but got carried away a bit too much and nedfed every single thing of their kit. This resulted in both of them without a "direction". Like for urshifu its damage, heal, cd heck even his basics got nerfed this raises a question what should we play it for? You can't brawl with it, can't jump in and get kos with it nor you can dance around with it which make it feel like it is useless.
Same with lapras, first his healing got multiple slaps along with its ability and stats and then damage. The only thing that is fine with lapras it is damage considering ita role as a defender but he just doesn't have the sustain to be the tank that it was supposed to be. You spend twice more time running away from the frontlines then actually being there. Playing it feels like playing psychic mime with less stuns and even less sustain.
Just give them some direction/role and they will be good again.
Were you an Urshifu main?
@@mimikyu6484 nope i don't main any mons.
And don't tell me that you are asking this bcoz you still have ptsd about it.
I think cookie is a must for Lapras , it goes well with her autos. When I don't stack them, yes, I can be kited very easily. But if I do at least 2/3 times in early game she is very fine. I love Bubblebeam, it goes well when I have more melee team.
I run Lapras with exp share + resonant guard + slick spoon and it's a VERY good support/defender, yes they should buff it back up a bit but by no means is it a bad pokemon. It is also very fun! I play with Water Pulse always and pick the beam depending on the enemy comp
(playing in Masters 1650+ which I believe is a decently good rank)
I run spoon, exp , curse, sea lady is my only gold badge Mon.
I use exp share, resonant guard and aeons cookies. She is very tanky.
Lapras was easily my favorite defender to play super fun. I think he's trash now, but I understand most of the nerfs he really was unstoppable
Spragels you’re a pretty cool person too
I've actually been using a bunch of lapras recently. When would you want to use ice over bubbles? Cause i've just been using bubbles every game.
What I need to get Blastoise or Lapras? Now I'm main Slowbro and new player.
I think with lapras it needs a small buff in both kits and auto healing same for water bear its decent at best but can be easily out boxed by other defenders and not enough of a significant frontline for tournament play let alone ranked
Lapras vs travenent who should I buy . please tell me
Buff Perish Song
Bro I forgot this Pokémon existed in Unite
Lapras was my highest played defender until the over nerfs, and since then it's been on the shelf. Time to bring the ole girl back on out and go for the blue badge. 🎉🎉🎉
Latest update today...Latest update today... is everything ready?
The most over nerfed pokemon is water bear mind you 😢😢
Water pulse should heal more or at least give a def buff for each hit. buff ice beam freeze duration
We don't need defenders nuking everything like they did in the past. Slight buff on Lapras boosted healing (2.5% maybe?) Lower the CD of every ability by 1.
If those aren't enough to make Lapras feel viable, then a few slight buffs to her damage.
but personally it doesn't feel difficult to kill someone with Lapras it's just her passive is basically Rocky Helm, but reduces the dmg instead. Maybe when it procs she takes 2% less damage for 3s?? That way she isn't just a counter against characters like Absol or Leafeon, but if high burst characters hit her she'll be more effective against other enemies within a short duration.
For me it's more like a cooldown to Bubblebeam, increasing the range of icebeam and maybe adding the ability to throw enemies that are stun by her moves. She is the only defender that can't properly defend goal zones.
@@matheus_ooliv I mean, yeah she can't but she can put the whole team inside the bubble and then use water pulse or song to hit the whole team at the same time.
I don't have difficulties defending the goal with her unless i get hit by enemies that kill you rapidly but don't have high burst hits.
Oh. I know. Enemies under the effects of Perish Song are slowed and frozen longer (ice beam) or are stuck in the bubble and stunned longer (Bubble Beam)
That might be a good middle ground for better CC so she can defend the zones better or use water pulse for damage and increased early game survivability with her Boosted autos.
I still would like a slight increase to the hp regen.
Agreed, I don't want to see Lapras doing more damage again, as it needs a stronger Defender identity. I'm not sure about extra healing, as I think its bulk could mainly come from reverting the nerf to its passive and allow it to get any extra healing it needs from Supports. I personally think its okay if most Defenders counter Speedsters.
Bubble and Ice Beam should get a 2 second cooldown cut.
If they were to add a farm mon as a playable one, which one would yall want? I would pick Claydol
Well he’s still not addressing the over saturation of Attacker and All-Rounder Licenses because we don’t have enough of Defenders, Speedsters and Supporters
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Only played Lapras a couple times my opinion is it’s a fine mon but it’s just fine
I'd say Urshifu is the saddest nerf story. At least Lapras is still playable. Blue Bear is not. I don't believe it needs to much in the buffs department, but if they do the passive needs to be nerfed
8:52 why are the timers weird?
i could say something about balance or something but she looks so beautiful is that dress
They probably don’t want to buff Lapras in case they want to release any other Defenders that they don’t want to steal the hype from. 🤔🐦🔥
Goodra needs a massive buff, it's the worst defender by far in this meta
Pls make a video on urshifu both style pls
I think Sableye deserves the title of most nerfed mon of all time
Lapras needs to be buffed so badly. Right now it does nothing, it has no damage output and it has no defender qualities, I mean the little cc it does is a joke.
Also please buff its healing capabilities
I don't like how water pulse works. If they could switch the order of moves to have whirlpool as your enhanced move set instead that would be better my opinion..
Pls request to game developer make huge buff on "Lapras"...
I know lapras was strong, but let it be the glorious mon it was meant to be
We got lapras nerf before gta 6 💀
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Nerf baltoy
They definitely over nerfed lapras, but those days of perish song dominance were definitely crazy!! Sadly, it's not even playable now though, which needs to be fixed
If they are gonna leave the damage alone, they need to buff its defenses. It isn’t Tanky. Idky timi does this where they overbuff and or over nerf mons. It legit KILLS your motivation to play the game
Second, 3 mins too
Is she really the most overnerfed mon? I’m not up to date with the game’s history 😅
Not strong enough for tournaments.
I’m first
your last ricky bobby
Just play requiem not water pulse, thanks me later
Brother they nerfed it too much 😮,it should be buffed 🎉, jai shree siya ram ❤🚩
To be fair Lapras was.border line unkillable on release I still have issues with goodra being too beefy but it's better than it was
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