Somebody higher up got pissed off that IGN or somebody leaked the ending. So Casey Hudson and Mac Walters were told to write up a new ending at the last minute. Just them, no input from anyone else, and they still had the balls to defend this ending that apparently got the price of the game cut in half days after its release, yeah i got screwed on that front.
like I said in the vid, the ending is so bad it ruins the whole idea of playing through the entire series for me. My brother bought Mass Effect 3, not me. he is currently in denial about the ending lol
I don't recall being forced to do a renegade option at the end so I actually didn't realize there were situations where it was forced. I'm guessing it comes up if you don't convince the illusive man to just do himself in.
Just finished it for the first time. Holy fuck. What a steaming pile of shit. I'd actually planned to play through from ME1 again just for something to do, but I don't see the point now. Fuck it. Just so I can get to decide between 7 fucking terrible endings again?
@Jongkboy right now the posters I have up are saw v, indiana jones kingdom of the crystal skull, macgruber, vacation, machete, dragonball z evolution (cuz it makes me laugh) resident evil afterlife, napolean dynamite, inglorious bastards, predators, and army of darkness, though I have tons more.
1.Shepard lost so much blood, add that with the fact of what the secret ending is and you can instantly presume it was practically 100% certain that it was a hallucination/dream... Bioware even said to hold onto your save just in case. 2.Well I could insert the idea that the element zero cores are what cause the large explosion usually, but since the "space magic" is so powerful maybe it burns the cores up before they dangerously explode...
[cont]Also if number 1 of what I said is true then it also explains the relays, but if 1 is not true then what I said in number 2 was an explanation to the cores also...
that is very true, it does almost seem like they messed up the ending on purpose, but knowing EA u can't help but wonder if this was planned just so they can sell the real ending as DLC....
This makes me curious on what you think about the endings to other series of games, im sure youve already talked about things like this, but what are your thoughts on others, like the god of war series, only the console ones, cause the psp ones have no meaning to the story line
I think you're right about the conspiracy idea, its just too bad to not intentional. I don't think they expected the scale of the backlash and outcry they brought on themselves though
With that being said, I would also like to add the moment I saw the ending, I literally took all 3 games and just sold them to the record exchange. I should've taken them to GameStop because I would've gotten less because that's how much I think of those games. I felt like I ripped off the Record Exchange.
they made the good ending the way it was so that they could make more DLC episodes (little boy asking for more stories about Shepard). They're most definitely going to charge us for them. If a company is willing to put Day 1 DLC, there's not much else they won't be willing to do.
hey rob have you heard? there realeasing dlc for the ending and have said that there not fixing ANYTHING there just adding slightly more cutscene time. PLS DO A RANT ABOUT THIS I NEED YOU TOO!!!!
If I ever make a game there would be several rules in place. 1. Make a kick ass ending or ending(s) that just fucking blow your mind out the back of your skull 2. NEVER! EVER! Fucking EVER! have DLC. And if by whatever reason there 'has' to be DLC it will be free for all. Unless the DLC is so fucking huge it is basically another game or a huge ass expansion pack. When I say expansion pack this thing better fucking give you 100s of hours of the best fun you've ever had.
I know. Believe me, the Bioware we love is gone forever considering the founders of the company have left. I doubt we'll ever see them reclaim their former glory especially with EA at the wheel.
But why would the purposely create an incomplete ending, only to create a dlc ending and make it free? I think actually they were planning to sell it at £5/$10+ but because the reception of the ending was hugely publicised, they decided to make it free instead to win back some support. And this isn't as crazy as it may seem, after all this is EA we're talking about. Not only this, but more developers are going to jump on the DLC ending trend to see how much they can nickle and dime their fans.
I have to agree that Bioware lost their minds when it came to the ending(s). I think they really should have hired a lead writer that has at least a modicum of skill.
The entire game was pretty much reviewed by lots of people in a team, and changes were made accordingly. The ending however, was a creative expression of just 2 people, having full control...
It does feel that there has to be more to this. Bioware must have been able to see that this was not good enough for the gamers that have spent time on this game. It did remind me of the Indiana Jones Crystal Skull South Park episode - times 100.
Jade Empire is a good game. As sad as it is I remember staying up all night to play it. The twist was amazing, and the ending was satisfying. Why can't Bioware do something like that again?
This is happening to every game though. All the new games in the series try to be new and innovative, when what everyone wants is the same shit as the old games. A new story, new maps, weapons, characters etc with some new gameplay mechanics is what everyone wants, not remaking the whole way the game plays to try to appeal to a minority of gamers
the only reason i played Mass Effect at all is because ME2 came to the PS3 with all the DLC included. so i played it, it was fun. more 3rd person shooter than RPG really, but it was a decent game. now at this point though i regret having played it all as i was interested to see how my choices impacted the story. i mean that was the point wasn't it? i guess if i want alternate endings i'll play Heavy Rain.
Apparently Bioware is actually going to "fix" the ending. Thought from what I could tell, it's just going to provide more "answers and closure". Hopefully they realize what's wrong this disrespectful buttfuck of an ending and actually give us one that doesn't rape the canon.
at least you admit it, the games not boring, there's a lot of shooting and using powers and being badass and whatnot, but there is also a lot of decision making and exploring. its optional, but recommended, to get to know your crew, or they can die. and some people do like 2 more, i like them all equally since its really just one long game split into 3 parts.
@LeisureSuitGaming2 the way the old man talks in the end there will be more little kid: tell me one more story about the Shepard old man: blah blah ok just one more but if i have this right he just told him about all 3 games what else is there to tell and the almost dead guy on earth in n7 armor (special ending) no way he could be on earth he had nothing he never left earth and there was only one way into where Anderson and Shepard meet and he said he came in a another way i could say more
Spoilers you mean other then the fact that all the work i put into this game means nothing in the end. the other big one for me is all the holes in the story 1.why is joker running from the fight 2.when a mass relay blows up it destroys a lot of stuff so all the planets are blown to hell and if the did not blow up then the shock wave just made all those space ships fall to earth and blow it to hell (most of the major people in the galaxy are there) 3.the way the old man talks there will be a 4
I'm with this dude. I won't give up on 1 and 2 cause in and of themselves those games rocked, but as a whole...this trilogy is like a perfectly clear crisp glass of water...and the ending is like a drop of sewage into it.
Thank you. Pretty much summarizes my feelings. Also, this whole Tali shit is crazy. A stock photo. A shopped stock photo is what your girlfriend for two games looks like.
the ending we see is fake and in shepards mind as he is battling an indoctrination by the reapers thats why if you choose to destroy and have a high enough ems he survives and wakes up where he was lazored by harvenger.
This guy never fails to provide me with more reason to be among my select list of most favourite people in the universe. He is EXACTLY my cup of tea, in so far as my criteria for how I'd want a friend of mine to be like. I envy the people who live around this epic legend, of legends. And no, I'm not homosexual, I am merely admiring and respecting this guy. Fuck, Rob is the FUCKING SHIT. FUCK!!!
I haven't played any ME games. But i came across the ending rants / theories and all that's is currently going on. As a true outsider, as someone who made his homework and tried to educate and what sort of franchise this was... I can say this: -Re-using CGI, changing colors of the explosions for the sake of trying to mask the fact there was only 1 ending. It's just plain Lazy -Cheap way to take away the control of the game out of player's hands with the catalyst twist I feel the fans pain...
Shitty ending explains why they made DLC already available. Square was doing this with Final Fantasy XIII-2 as well. This BETTER not be a gaming industry trend that expands to Capcom or Sega when it comes to their games, or I will be pissed! I have never seen such DLC abuse in my life in the past few years! It's absolutely disgusting!
Believe it or not LSG there are people who liked ME3's original vanilla ending. I guess they wasn't there when the promise was made for 16 "Different endings" or no A, B, C ending to pick from. Or they just have low standards in gaming who knows :/
@Venim85 1 poorly 2 poorly in a diff color 3 poorly in yet another color 98 percent of the game is awesome, but the "final run"(beam of light, harbinger attacking you) is the exact moment bioware should have come up with something different right after that i still love me3 and the whole series, and bioware, but the ending... tsk tsk, I BLAME EA
i beat the 1st game got about halfway through the 2nd and all this shit about the 3rd game really makes me not want to finish the 2nd and even play the 3rd game even if it is good if all my trouble isn't worth it in the end.
i like the game Mass Effect 3 because it was fun to play. I LOVED the Mass Effect series and when my Shepard died i was kinda pissed. But it brought an understanding then i went off on a rage yelling at my friggin' TV "WTF?!?! NO.NO.NO!!! THT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!!!! RLLY?!?!?" but then i calmed down and realized- oh hold on a minute.... NO.NO.NO!!!!! THT IS NOT SUPPUSED TO HAPPEN!!! RLLY BIOWARE?!?!?! U HAD TO KILL THE ONE PERSON WHO SAVED THE GALAXY?!?!?!?!
in the ending everyone around or on earth is fucked and everyone anywhere near a mass relay is too they make a huge fucking explosion. plus why was joker running he would never do that P.S. by huge fucking explosion look at the arrival dlc ending
Glasses come off...shit gets real
Oh god, I don't remember silent rob wearing a fedora in this.
K
Lol
it's not only the ending insulted you rob but they also us,bioware definitely stabbed us in the back
Somebody higher up got pissed off that IGN or somebody leaked the ending. So Casey Hudson and Mac Walters were told to write up a new ending at the last minute. Just them, no input from anyone else, and they still had the balls to defend this ending that apparently got the price of the game cut in half days after its release, yeah i got screwed on that front.
"and then...they brought it to a new level of goddamn it" lmao
like I said in the vid, the ending is so bad it ruins the whole idea of playing through the entire series for me. My brother bought Mass Effect 3, not me. he is currently in denial about the ending lol
Remember EA had their fingers in this. They DLC's the shit out of that game with its forced multiplayer and all. That game has EA written all over it.
before or after the giant X-Men robot thing?
@Anigamer1983 cuz this ending makes it not worth playing the series, as there is no ultimate payoff, like I stated in the video.
Why do I feel like I'm watching a Matthew Santoro video with the music in the background? But the funny thing is silent rob used it first. 😳
You're not ugly, Rob!
I don't recall being forced to do a renegade option at the end so I actually didn't realize there were situations where it was forced. I'm guessing it comes up if you don't convince the illusive man to just do himself in.
Music at 6:31
Just finished it for the first time. Holy fuck. What a steaming pile of shit. I'd actually planned to play through from ME1 again just for something to do, but I don't see the point now. Fuck it. Just so I can get to decide between 7 fucking terrible endings again?
@Jongkboy right now the posters I have up are saw v, indiana jones kingdom of the crystal skull, macgruber, vacation, machete, dragonball z evolution (cuz it makes me laugh) resident evil afterlife, napolean dynamite, inglorious bastards, predators, and army of darkness, though I have tons more.
Here in 2019 love the fedora Rob
1.Shepard lost so much blood, add that with the fact of what the secret ending is and you can instantly presume it was practically 100% certain that it was a hallucination/dream... Bioware even said to hold onto your save just in case.
2.Well I could insert the idea that the element zero cores are what cause the large explosion usually, but since the "space magic" is so powerful maybe it burns the cores up before they dangerously explode...
I was half-expecting the after credits scene to be like Ong Bak 2: "Pray for Sheppard if you want him to live."
Personally, I think Silent Rob is pretty goddamn handsome.
[cont]Also if number 1 of what I said is true then it also explains the relays, but if 1 is not true then what I said in number 2 was an explanation to the cores also...
Hey Rob, what do you think about the Indoctrination Theory?
that is very true, it does almost seem like they messed up the ending on purpose, but knowing EA u can't help but wonder if this was planned just so they can sell the real ending as DLC....
This makes me curious on what you think about the endings to other series of games, im sure youve already talked about things like this, but what are your thoughts on others, like the god of war series, only the console ones, cause the psp ones have no meaning to the story line
Ironically there was a Mass Effect 3 commercial before this video lolololololololol
The funny part is they did make DLC for the ending!
What is worse, Halo 2 ending or Mass Effect 3 ending?
Im scared to finish the game. I got so scared to the point where I actually avoided talking to anybody or doing anything
10:02 bookitty182 reference? :))
i agree, the ending not only destroyed the relays, the universe and the game . but also had a chain reaction effect that destroyed all re playability.
Guess what his favorite word is!
I think you're right about the conspiracy idea, its just too bad to not intentional. I don't think they expected the scale of the backlash and outcry they brought on themselves though
With that being said, I would also like to add the moment I saw the ending, I literally took all 3 games and just sold them to the record exchange. I should've taken them to GameStop because I would've gotten less because that's how much I think of those games. I felt like I ripped off the Record Exchange.
If they leave the ending the way it is I will remember bioware as the studio that rape my mass effect hopes
my favorite video of yours. laughed so hard
At least we got Mass Effect 1 for ps3...
I know, bad me, bad me
they made the good ending the way it was so that they could make more DLC episodes (little boy asking for more stories about Shepard). They're most definitely going to charge us for them. If a company is willing to put Day 1 DLC, there's not much else they won't be willing to do.
@TurningJappanesse yea, I am partnered with Machinima.
Hey Rob did you hear Square Enix is releasing Mass Effect related Dlc?
before and after, it got me totally involved and left me craving for more
tbh killzone didnt even have an ending it just went black outta nowhere
Wonder what he thought of new game
hey rob have you heard? there realeasing dlc for the ending and have said that there not fixing ANYTHING there just adding slightly more cutscene time. PLS DO A RANT ABOUT THIS I NEED YOU TOO!!!!
@LeisureSuitGaming2 Is it worse than Halo 2 ending?
@Damian420 Like a dog crapping on a delicious cake. Haven't played the game since I found out about its ending(s).
If I ever make a game there would be several rules in place.
1. Make a kick ass ending or ending(s) that just fucking blow your mind out the back of your skull
2. NEVER! EVER! Fucking EVER! have DLC. And if by whatever reason there 'has' to be DLC it will be free for all. Unless the DLC is so fucking huge it is basically another game or a huge ass expansion pack. When I say expansion pack this thing better fucking give you 100s of hours of the best fun you've ever had.
"why would it make sense if it doesnt make sense?"
well said.
@Ketorulz well Capcom has been doing it for awhile just a different approach.
I know. Believe me, the Bioware we love is gone forever considering the founders of the company have left. I doubt we'll ever see them reclaim their former glory especially with EA at the wheel.
did you see all the endings Rob?
Nice, I missed your old look with the hat and glasses! Classic Rob FTW!
But why would the purposely create an incomplete ending, only to create a dlc ending and make it free? I think actually they were planning to sell it at £5/$10+ but because the reception of the ending was hugely publicised, they decided to make it free instead to win back some support. And this isn't as crazy as it may seem, after all this is EA we're talking about. Not only this, but more developers are going to jump on the DLC ending trend to see how much they can nickle and dime their fans.
@LeisureSuitGaming2 This whole video had me rolling but from 9:30 on I had to hop in the casket and bury myself. Your quotables are timeless.
if you want to bring shepard back to life, thats going to be an extra 10 dollars
Damn, this brings me back to a time when it was rare for people just to SEE the ending to a game, much less see a good one. x)
I swear to god, every time I see this ending I feel like vomiting and crying. It's that bad.
Trust me, the ending itself was one of the things people complained the most about, it wasn't just the lack of variation and closure.
I have to agree that Bioware lost their minds when it came to the ending(s). I think they really should have hired a lead writer that has at least a modicum of skill.
The entire game was pretty much reviewed by lots of people in a team, and changes were made accordingly. The ending however, was a creative expression of just 2 people, having full control...
I've never played mass effect 3 or any what was the ending was it like red dead redemption, bioshock infinite,
+tonycmac reminds me of saw endings if haven't seen it DONT watch it trust me
hes not talking about the ending itself he's talking about how bioware lied to your face.
It does feel that there has to be more to this. Bioware must have been able to see that this was not good enough for the gamers that have spent time on this game. It did remind me of the Indiana Jones Crystal Skull South Park episode - times 100.
i prey to god that the jenkins theory is wrong and it all wasnt just some old guys dream
Jade Empire is a good game. As sad as it is I remember staying up all night to play it. The twist was amazing, and the ending was satisfying. Why can't Bioware do something like that again?
@foolofaguyinlove thanx! this comment is freakin awesome!
This is happening to every game though. All the new games in the series try to be new and innovative, when what everyone wants is the same shit as the old games. A new story, new maps, weapons, characters etc with some new gameplay mechanics is what everyone wants, not remaking the whole way the game plays to try to appeal to a minority of gamers
the only reason i played Mass Effect at all is because ME2 came to the PS3 with all the DLC included. so i played it, it was fun. more 3rd person shooter than RPG really, but it was a decent game. now at this point though i regret having played it all as i was interested to see how my choices impacted the story. i mean that was the point wasn't it? i guess if i want alternate endings i'll play Heavy Rain.
Apparently Bioware is actually going to "fix" the ending. Thought from what I could tell, it's just going to provide more "answers and closure".
Hopefully they realize what's wrong this disrespectful buttfuck of an ending and actually give us one that doesn't rape the canon.
umm before I ask anything, Dragonball Evolution poster?
They did to an extent - given you beat the DLC for DA:O in the correct importing order - then transfer all to DA2 of course.
i swear to god when you talked about your toothgap and all i forgott what this video was about xD
I completely agree with you sir.
Like you said, I will NEVER play through theis series again, there is just no point...
* takes glasses off* ah shit here it comes
Mass Effect 2 has a game killing GLITCH....fuck that shit...man what a fuck up.
How did it end?
at least you admit it, the games not boring, there's a lot of shooting and using powers and being badass and whatnot, but there is also a lot of decision making and exploring. its optional, but recommended, to get to know your crew, or they can die. and some people do like 2 more, i like them all equally since its really just one long game split into 3 parts.
@LeisureSuitGaming2 the way the old man talks in the end there will be more
little kid: tell me one more story about the Shepard
old man: blah blah ok just one more
but if i have this right he just told him about all 3 games what else is there to tell and the almost dead guy on earth in n7 armor (special ending) no way he could be on earth he had nothing he never left earth and there was only one way into where Anderson and Shepard meet and he said he came in a another way
i could say more
by the way i like how you got the walking dead pic and put the reaper over the house haha comedy
It's not like this is the first time they've completely ruined something great by rushing it.
@freecomkcf ffxiii-2* (youtube really needs an ending button)
Wow...
Did they not fix it? I'd heard they had, but I am yet to play it, I enjoyed the first one.
Nope, they just made the shitty ending longer.
Spoilers
you mean other then the fact that all the work i put into this game means nothing in the end. the other big one for me is all the holes in the story
1.why is joker running from the fight
2.when a mass relay blows up it destroys a lot of stuff so all the planets are blown to hell and if the did not blow up then the shock wave just made all those space ships fall to earth and blow it to hell (most of the major people in the galaxy are there)
3.the way the old man talks there will be a 4
I'm with this dude. I won't give up on 1 and 2 cause in and of themselves those games rocked, but as a whole...this trilogy is like a perfectly clear crisp glass of water...and the ending is like a drop of sewage into it.
you know you could have gotten your point through without all of the f bombs
Thank you. Pretty much summarizes my feelings. Also, this whole Tali shit is crazy. A stock photo. A shopped stock photo is what your girlfriend for two games looks like.
Shit at this point, Valve is probibly the only gaming company left that actually knows what they're doing.
the ending we see is fake and in shepards mind as he is battling an indoctrination by the reapers thats why if you choose to destroy and have a high enough ems he survives and wakes up where he was lazored by harvenger.
This guy never fails to provide me with more reason to be among my select list of most favourite people in the universe.
He is EXACTLY my cup of tea, in so far as my criteria for how I'd want a friend of mine to be like.
I envy the people who live around this epic legend, of legends.
And no, I'm not homosexual, I am merely admiring and respecting this guy.
Fuck, Rob is the FUCKING SHIT.
FUCK!!!
I haven't played any ME games. But i came across the ending rants / theories and all that's is currently going on. As a true outsider, as someone who made his homework and tried to educate and what sort of franchise this was... I can say this:
-Re-using CGI, changing colors of the explosions for the sake of trying to mask the fact there was only 1 ending. It's just plain Lazy
-Cheap way to take away the control of the game out of player's hands with the catalyst twist
I feel the fans pain...
@ispitthetruth Why is he a legend? ANYONE could put a camera in front of them and yell about stuff.
Shitty ending explains why they made DLC already available. Square was doing this with Final Fantasy XIII-2 as well. This BETTER not be a gaming industry trend that expands to Capcom or Sega when it comes to their games, or I will be pissed! I have never seen such DLC abuse in my life in the past few years! It's absolutely disgusting!
Believe it or not LSG there are people who liked ME3's original vanilla ending. I guess they wasn't there when the promise was made for 16 "Different endings" or no A, B, C ending to pick from. Or they just have low standards in gaming who knows :/
i thought there were multiple endings?...not so??
ok, can you explain on why mass effect 3 has a good ending?
@Venim85
1 poorly
2 poorly in a diff color
3 poorly in yet another color
98 percent of the game is awesome, but the "final run"(beam of light, harbinger attacking you) is the exact moment bioware should have come up with something different right after that
i still love me3 and the whole series, and bioware, but the ending... tsk tsk, I BLAME EA
i beat the 1st game got about halfway through the 2nd and all this shit about the 3rd game really makes me not want to finish the 2nd and even play the 3rd game even if it is good if all my trouble isn't worth it in the end.
To this day, Final Fantasy VII still has the worst ending ever for a franchise series.
i like the game Mass Effect 3 because it was fun to play. I LOVED the Mass Effect series and when my Shepard died i was kinda pissed. But it brought an understanding then i went off on a rage yelling at my friggin' TV "WTF?!?! NO.NO.NO!!! THT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!!!! RLLY?!?!?" but then i calmed down and realized- oh hold on a minute.... NO.NO.NO!!!!! THT IS NOT SUPPUSED TO HAPPEN!!! RLLY BIOWARE?!?!?! U HAD TO KILL THE ONE PERSON WHO SAVED THE GALAXY?!?!?!?!
thats what i found kinda stupid about me2 , the robot thing , i was like , dafuq is this?? , is dis a star wars prequal ??
it was a dream... seriously watch a perfect ending and watch the indoctrination theroy or read it on giant bomb.
in the ending everyone around or on earth is fucked and everyone anywhere near a mass relay is too they make a huge fucking explosion. plus why was joker running he would never do that
P.S. by huge fucking explosion look at the arrival dlc ending
Imagine an epic Sci-Fi TV show like Babylon 5 with the ending of Lost. Yep. That's a short & accurate comparison to the ME series. -_-