30. Review: Bronze Age Mindset by Bronze Age Pervert
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ย. 2019
- In this episode I explore Bronze Age Mindset, the independently produced exhortation that calls for a renewed dedication to the pursuit of vitality, beauty, and excellence in our ugly modern bug world. I look at Bronze Age Pervert's recommendations for political and social action.
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I read the book once - passively listened more than once during my strolls.
A review goes against the spirit of the book. You can't critique it. It's an exhortation of his life, his knowledge, his perspective.
The book is a tour. We view life from his eyes. He wants us to have a beautiful tint - and, paradoxically, therefore a hatred of all that surrounds us, the ugliness can't exist without a notion of the sublime, that tint.
He is liberation. Liberation from historical thinking. Contra the Trads, he rejects involution from a Golden Age. History for BAP is dullness, with elements of opportunity intermixed. Sure, he venerates certain ages over others, but these are mere moments that give way to the mundane.
History isn't telos (Hegel, Marx, Fukyama), nor is it even cyclical (Spengler, Guenon, Evola). Each age has opportunities, some epochs more than others. The more the better the age. The man of greatness is a surfer, hoping to avail of posseidon's wrath, to master it. The opportunity to become. To be.
Emil Cioran said of Codreanu, "he forced us to be". BAP forces us to admire those better than us. In a way it's torture, but he doesn't want to hurt us, I believe. Maybe he wants to recognise what is right, beautiful, and good?
But what is right? What is beauty and the sublime? Is there a 'good'? Questions borne from the intellect. A better question: are we merely adopting BAP's notion of the aforementioned? Has he colonised our mind? Have we exchanged one, though less ghey, master for another?
All language is prior - neologisms are parasitic upon existing meaning. Man is borne a slave...then he learns to fuck. The process repeats. We are slaves eternally. Our only choice, and a limited choice at that, is: to whom are we to be slaves?
BAP or lesbos? Alcibiades or Rosa Luxemberg? Vigour or lethargy?
I SUBMIT!
Wot means?
Both choices at the end of tour comment are the choices of regression to the state of nature; the "good savage" myth.
The masculine and feminine versions of it.
But this two aren't the only options: there is also the option for civilization: Aristotle and St. Thomas Aquinas. Of Truth, reason, logic and evidence. Justice, charity, virtue and self-control.
The first two are freedom TO follow our base instincts; the later is freedom FROM our instincts.
I can see no feminine version of this option ever existing...
Note: this review has been modified slightly from its original form. I removed a criticism of the author that I decided was unwarranted.
John Zerzan said that.
To sum it up, do you think we can say he is just a kind of Nietzschean will-to-power guy?
I think that's a major part of it. I think his focus on activity and dominance is a move in the direction of a more vital and fundamental understanding of the place of humanity in the world and the correct way for us to be. To accept and express our will to power is part of that, but there is an appreciation for the aesthetic and the honorable in others that seem to step outside the bounds of self-concern that is, to me, fundamental to the will to power. I think it's an appreciation of the primal and even pagan instincts within us, but not simply submission to instinct. Perhaps the harnessing of instinct. I will certainly have to read more Nietzsche than I have to get deeper into this topic, and I definitely will.
@@natureandthenation I don't know your age. But I would recommend Nietzsche after maturity. Maybe 35-40 years. And after being intimate with some other philosophers, like Thomas Aquinas, Burke, Aristotle, Bertrand de Jouvenel, Hoppe, Sertillanges (The Intellectual Life: Its Spirit, Conditions, Methods) etc.
At younger ages his writings can be a powerful fuel for the hormones already raging our bodies....
@@vladmordekeiser1054 Donna tartt agrees lol
The book is entertaining like Neitzche is. But I don’t see how a strongman dictator brought to power my pirate mercenaries, will solve any of our problems.
"Im not sure Im being trolled or not"
You are, and youre not, depending on the passage. It makes it kind of an elaborate inside joke and a riddle at the same time. I find the grammar alternately infuriating and endearing.
This book is about as serious as Harassment Architecture by Mike Ma which is another underestimated tome of disenfranchisement. BAM was never supposed to be Thus Spoke Zarathustra, yet oddly it has become the On The Road of the disaffected dissidents of this generation. Maybe BAP needs Kerouac's editor?
Its confusing, and I think that part of its very aim is to invoke dissonance in the reader. Passages like the following however are incredibly moving, IMHO.
"Group of horses in broad plain, and the lead stallion is captured by a wild spirit, starts to gallop this way and that, and the whole herd follows in a great rush of power and freedom-Nietzsche talks about this. I’ve seen many things like this myself: was at big waterfall, gathering place of many birds and other animal. Through all the cycles of history this place remains and birds who witnessed the coming and going of human civilizations remember it through the aeons and always return there. I saw many group of small birds, when the weather slightly changed, this waterfall so big that a small wind would make spray of water everywhere. Sun came from behind clouds and spread many small rainbows, birds would become excited, come out from crevasses in rock face and would glory in the sprays of water and the rainbows, they swoon doing acrobatics this way and that. Like when Homer says that on some Asian meadow tribes of geese, and crane and long-necked swans glory in the power of their wings above it, then land between the rivers, in Skamandrian plain, with a great clang."
POAST FIZEEK
That is a fantastic passage!
Wonderfull!
1:06 Nature & The Nation
4:13 Bronze Age Mindset introduction
5:20 Blend of Content
7:34 BAM - kinda Pagan, archaic violent, elevates and glorifies conquerers dictators conquistadors 9:25 _Critique #1: Better Role Models ought be elevated than these_
11:06 What are the author’s intentions? Sure he is well read, but he behaves & writes in a contrived form
14:33 About Beauty
18:57 Archaic Greece, Heroic Old Stone Age, Man of Power & Magnificence in Great Numbers, Exceeding us in every way. Elite Athletes nothing in comparison to them.
25:22 Gym Culture and Working Out, Strength & Vitality & Preparation & Athletics & Combat-Practice; THIS BOOK is an Exhortation to be THE BEST That you CAN BE
Personal Greatness