Just to clarify, it’s fine if someone outside NASCAR wants to participate in the Daytona 500, but if a NASCAR driver wants to participate in the Indy 500, they must forfeit their season? 😂 Get bent! Trying to build a country club out of a trailer park is not endearing to non-NASCAR folks, and preventing your drivers from crossover experiences will NOT bring in new fans either.
And if Larson WINS the Indy 500, and makes it to back to race the entire Charlotte race - The Charlotte race will be the most watched race in history as EVERYONE will be watching to see if he pulls off the double. Win-Win for all involved. But not in NASCAR's eyes.
Thats fine NASCAR keep doing what your doing you are just pushing people away. Keep it up because i would rather see KL race a sprint car any day. It cast me $30 to go to a dirt track for 3 hrs and be accessible to all the drivers. Where as NASCAR charged $200 plus plus for tickets to see a boring race for 5hrs. Take your pick thst is why your local dirt tracks are packed every weekend.💯💪✌️👍
Dave Troyer also when you go to a local track on dirt you see better racing and see fans who know racing when you go to a NASCAR race its like your at a country club
@TimothyMeyers-i2s your so right I can go to any dirt track in central PA and see 200 people I know it's like a big family and that's every fri,sat,sun nite.
I hate it you keep saying Larson missed a race. He didn’t miss it - they called it off and shoved a winner down our throats because they didn’t want to finish it the next day. 12:53
He did Miss The race technically. He wasn't getting credit for the win If he would have won since didn't start the race and since he never got in the car he missed the race
@kenwayne7709 It doesn't f****** matter he didn't start the race so that's all that matters anyway and Even if he would have got in the car and won He would not have gotten credit for it and shouldn't have even gotten a waiver. NASCAR did the right thing with this rule change
@@johnhaas2523 listen John. Obviously you are not Larson fan. I think NASCAR’s hands were tied about the waiver when they cleared Alguire to run the 5, until he arrived. We got your point. It’s probably a valid one about the race as far as IF had run in it. But if he had won, I think they would have let it stand as a win. HMS won the ownership title in points instead of 23/11. The thing that gets me are giving the wins to drivers when they call off a race that’s not even 1/2 finished. That’s BS. They should have run the rest Monday morning to get the true winner. Would have been too bad for the fans that were present on Sunday, but that’s what they have streaming and highlights for.
So does laying back at the superspeedways and not going 100% be considered manipulating the outcome, or agreed upon pitting together??? Both these things are done to manipulate the outcome. This rule is so stupid.
That would have killed Pearson's career. He preferred to stroke, laying back till the last part of a race, then run to the front, because he could. Few run 100% ALL race long.
I think it affects the overall product, so it shouldn’t be allowed. It’s not really manipulating the outcome. It is pretty shitty if you paid for the race weekend and your guy runs 90% of the race in the back.
Another reason for NASCAR to lose some more fans. It all started when they wanted to go nation wide and leave their base fans and has down with each change they have made since then. Everyone does not agree with me but I think all the added night time racing did not help either for the local fan base. Someone needs to start another sanction body to replace NASCAR.
@NeedsLessWedge The car is not a turd So f****** watch what you say. The reason it can't if you stop is because there's rub blocks the car can get stuck on and they exist for a reason. It's not like can run iner tires with the wheels used. Its not a big deal now with rule changes as Even if they tow you to the garage because of tires you can change the tires and come back out
The fans that want nothing to do with entertainment aren't going to ever get what they want. NASCAR is in the entertainment business everything is required to like it and know it and tv pays the bills
Entertainment is real competition. Nascar is like the recent Mike Tyson “fight” that he threw: the outcome was fixed- Tyson stepped back every time he could have stepped forward and ko’d Paul to the canvas in one punch and a three-swing combination. It was disgusting, just as the fake logano championship was disgusting. Logono was eliminated, and they gave him a provisional. Stupid.
Guarantee fans will return if they dropped stages and playoffs. We already have that in football. Just race. First one over the line wins. Stupid simple.
The foolishness is them (nastycar) trying to make people accept the revisionist definition of what “race” means. Automotive racing is a team sport but not like football or baseball. Racing - a race- is a bunch of INDIVIDUALS competing on equal ‘ground’ until one - ONE- is in first place at the end of the designated distance.
How about a Joey Logano Rule? Do nothing. Say nothing. Bring nothing. Eat vanilla ice cream. What Star power he brings to the sport. Nawwww. Let’s stick it to Kyle Larson.
I ALREADY MADE UP MY MIND LAST YEAR BEFORE THE LAST RACE OF THE SEASON …! I TURNED OFF NASCAR AND HAVENT WATCHED SINCE…! I FIGURED A Penske car was going to win since lagoono and Blamey seem to have that track figured out .. AND THERE IS NO WAY LAGOONO DESERVED IT IN MY BOOK SO MY RULE CHANGES ARE AFTER 40 + YEARS IM OUT ! IM A BIG KYLE LARSON FAN SO ILL FOLLOW HIM ON DIRT AND INDY…🤢😷😂
The Joey Logano Rule is that you get to win “the championship” (sic) after not qualifying for the illogical fake “playoffs.” They might as well give out the championship trophy before the green flag drops at Daytona.
Hey Charlie, any comment on The Bob Pockrass report that came out earlier this week stating that Nascar has now limited teams to 3 charters except for a couple of teams, basically rewriting the charter agreement contracts AFTER they have been signed? And also reported that the France family are making plans to form their own Cup team??
How are any of these rule changes going to bring in more fans, and make Nascar better. Nascar should not be able to stop any driver from competing in any race of their choice if given the opportunity, Nascar is trying to own the driver's like a slave.
Ok so DVP is gone, why 8 minutes at Atlanta? Folks, Teams will do what theyve been doing for decades, except in the new NextGen/Sports Car Series era. There was a time teams would changes engines in the race. The Wood Bros could change one in about 15 minutes. So this rule isnt new, its getting ris of an incredibly stupid rule from the NextGen Sports Car Ringling Bros and NASCAR Circus
The Junior Johnson & Associates race team could change an entire engine in 11 minutes!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS A FACT!!!!!!! This is the very reason why NASCAR officials stopped teams from doing this because of safety concerns or issues!!!!!!!!
Breaking News: Nascar bans fans who "just like good, real racing" from watching sport. A NASCAR spokesperson commented "We don't feel there will be a huge need to enforce this rule as nearly every decision we have made for over 20 years have driven these folks away already. We're seeking bring new, transient fans in with exciting and manufactured drama." Former NASCAR fan, Tony Stewart, said "I lost interest in it already so this won't affect much, especially since I'm into drag racing now anyhow."
So if a Doctor says he is not fit to race due to dehydration, on the plane from Indy 5 min prior to start, driver gets a medical exemption. no penalty for attempting the double and missing the race.
It's not about Larson not doing the double. It's about Larson the Nascar driver not being in the car at Charlotte. When that happened all I thought was I'd be pretty mad if I was at that race as a Larson fan. Definitely felt bad for his fans. Big names entering in other series is awesome for the racing community but it can't impede with the drivers OG racing.
Everything anyone does during a race manipulates the outcome. How fucking dumb... How does Nascar plan to police THAT? There's another suite down the line
I guess, I don't understand what NASCAR OFFICIALS are trying for. Mario Andretti, AJ Foyt, Parnelli Jones, Jim Hurtubise, Bobby and Donnie Allison, and others drove everything with wheels. So now this generation of NASCAR officials, sees this as a detriment to the sport ??
True Nascar Fans are absolutely SICK of the Non Racing that goes on now. How many Zillion times do we have to listen to "I was able to get to him but, I got Aero Tight, Aero Loose, Bad Air made it impossible to do anything once I got to him" There is a very fine line between the Corporations that run Nascar and the Fans that want to watch it anymore. It's getting tough to watch it on TV nowadays much less go to a race in person. Make racing, racing again and get rid of this AERO CRAP!!! Nascar needs to find a way to replicate the Late 80's early 90"s racing in a Greased Lightning Quick kinda way!! It was watchable then, not so much now. LFG!!!
Nascar just go back to the way it use to be if you miss a race you don't get any points,get rid of the charters,go back to 43 cars for a race,get rid of the playoffs and let the teams fix the cars back at the garage
@@johnhaas2523 yes they still ran manufacturer cars in the 90's. went down the toilet when the "Car of Tomorrow" showed up. 2012 was the last year for Dodge. And Toyota showed up, and bought their way into NASCAR. Toyota Camry never was a V8 and rwd car. Supra is a RWD car but has a inline 6 in it. Mopar is only involved in NHRA. Toyota is only legal in the Truck Series.
So a 'medical' emergency is a free pass for the playoff points to remain? What about another Kyle Busch incident where a drivere races in another series, gets injured, sits out a number of races with no repercussions. Seems like there needs to be a blanket policy across the boards then such as miss a race - your out but this is a cookie cutter policy seen to specifically target the Kyle Larson weather fiasco AND an Indy-Charlotte attempt.
When Nascar started people showed up and qualified if you qualified you raced if not you went home didn't matter if you were 18 or 80. Come on Nascar get back to the roots
FIA WEC, IMSA, Formula One, Indycar will be exciting in 2025. I will watch and listen to NASCAR but DEI is inventing these rules to play God over who wins and who loses. Larson deja vu in Indianapolis and Charlotte regardless of draconian rules.
They've already said the playoffs are permanent though they are open to changing the format. You required to be educated and know that and like it because NASCAR is in entertainment business and that you're also required to like
@ I know what they said. It’s disgusting that NASCAR has reimagined itself as being in the entertainment business. The fact that every team in NASCAR competes against each other at every event makes the use of a playoff system to determine the season champion comical.
Their play off format sucks balls anyway so who gives a shit ? The only real championship format is the original one and it's the one all other racing formats use !
@@mpf1947 great. Can't wait. Unlike cable and national broadcast, prime won't cut off the post race or pre race parts and will stick the broadcast, not rushing things. Now TNT..maybe a diff story, will see. Thursday night football on prime has been good to go this year.
Strange that NASCAR would change rules after Matt Kenseth has retired. They usually only change things based on what Kenseth has done or has not done. We are in uncharted waters now.
@@johnhaas2523 That can change. Look at all the woke companies trying to pivot now to exist under Trump. Companies will deny deny deny until they change. You must be extremely young and gullible.
They need another racing league like what High Limit did to World of Oulaws Sprint Car Racing . Just give teams an option to leave the drama behind and go race somewhere else!
10 of us used to be really big NASCAR fans and attended many many races … now with all these rules and constant rule changes have turned NASCAR into a joke. Have Just as much fun going to the interstate and watch traffic. See more action without all the pace laps and yellow flag lap. Get back to racing and you might get fans back.
I hope Larson just leaves and goes Indy racing permanently, continuation of stupid rules made by non racers. Welcome mats for newbies deemed worthy, but it isn't reciprocal for NASCAR stars.🤦🏼♂️
@ please note Rick was involved in all decisions made, and was a partner on the Indy ride and approved all decisions. He will be there again this year.
@ I enjoy seeing KL driving in all forms of motorsports and performing at a top level, life is short drive where you want, when you want, as did Mario and AJ. Let the chips fall where they do…. In my opinion after a long time in and around racing this is a poor strategy by NASCAR. It has never worked in local racing and it won't work here. He will run the double again this year, and they will pull his points, it will only make winning the NASCAR Championship sweeter. I look forward to seeing him next week in Tulsa, and I won’t be at Daytona for the first time since ‘72. While I appreciate your perspective, the best talent will gravitate to fulfillment of their dreams, it ain't about money, it is about those dreams and trophies.
NASCRAP SUCKS! I was a nascar fan for 30 years but they lost me and many others. Last 15 years I was a fan sucked too. Screw NASCRAP! Check out your local dirt tracks. By far best racing you will find!
The waiver change is BS. Doing the double brings huge attention to NASCAR, the drivets should get bonus points for it not penalized for acts of God causing a missed race while attemptimg to make the two races.
Doing the double is fine if Indy starts on time. Everybody should have known this is coming because NASCAR was pissed off last year at Kyle and HMS and rules stated as is you most attempt to start every race and Kyle didn't and skipping the start to run the 500 isn't a good reason for a waiver
Just to clarify, it’s fine if someone outside NASCAR wants to participate in the Daytona 500, but if a NASCAR driver wants to participate in the Indy 500, they must forfeit their season? 😂 Get bent! Trying to build a country club out of a trailer park is not endearing to non-NASCAR folks, and preventing your drivers from crossover experiences will NOT bring in new fans either.
It's the Kyle Larson rule.
If Indy Car was as popular as NASCAR, Roger would do the same thing.
Nascar is talking out of both sides of their mouth again and showing what a bunch of hypocrites are.
Say it LOUDER nascar had the ear plugs in!
And if Larson WINS the Indy 500, and makes it to back to race the entire Charlotte race - The Charlotte race will be the most watched race in history as EVERYONE will be watching to see if he pulls off the double. Win-Win for all involved. But not in NASCAR's eyes.
Thats fine NASCAR keep doing what your doing you are just pushing people away. Keep it up because i would rather see KL race a sprint car any day. It cast me $30 to go to a dirt track for 3 hrs and be accessible to all the drivers. Where as NASCAR charged $200 plus plus for tickets to see a boring race for 5hrs. Take your pick thst is why your local dirt tracks are packed every weekend.💯💪✌️👍
Dave Troyer also when you go to a local track on dirt you see better racing and see fans who know racing when you go to a NASCAR race its like your at a country club
@TimothyMeyers-i2s your so right I can go to any dirt track in central PA and see 200 people I know it's like a big family and that's every fri,sat,sun nite.
@@DaveTroyer18-vg4le Yep and you can watch Billy Dietrich he kicks ass. I live In Troy, Ohio and go to Shadybowl and Eldora.
NASCAR is really trying hard to destroy what fans they have left
Just too old to understand
Yes they are
Nascar is such a joke. It still is a joke
They lost me 10 yrs ago it’s only getting worse every year after year etc..
@@whitetailwarriorsdeercamp88 it's getting better and better
Getting rid of that ridiculous damaged vehicle policy is the best news out of this.
A part of me understood it but I mean c’mon, so many drivers losing points and fans not seeing their favorite driver race
I hate it you keep saying Larson missed a race. He didn’t miss it - they called it off and shoved a winner down our throats because they didn’t want to finish it the next day. 12:53
Exactly 💯
He did Miss The race technically. He wasn't getting credit for the win If he would have won since didn't start the race and since he never got in the car he missed the race
@@johnhaas2523 He was ready to race but rain happened and NASCAR made the decision - not Larson or his team....or any other competitor.
@kenwayne7709 It doesn't f****** matter he didn't start the race so that's all that matters anyway and Even if he would have got in the car and won He would not have gotten credit for it and shouldn't have even gotten a waiver. NASCAR did the right thing with this rule change
@@johnhaas2523 listen John. Obviously you are not Larson fan. I think NASCAR’s hands were tied about the waiver when they cleared Alguire to run the 5, until he arrived. We got your point. It’s probably a valid one about the race as far as IF had run in it. But if he had won, I think they would have let it stand as a win. HMS won the ownership title in points instead of 23/11. The thing that gets me are giving the wins to drivers when they call off a race that’s not even 1/2 finished. That’s BS. They should have run the rest Monday morning to get the true winner. Would have been too bad for the fans that were present on Sunday, but that’s what they have streaming and highlights for.
So does laying back at the superspeedways and not going 100% be considered manipulating the outcome, or agreed upon pitting together??? Both these things are done to manipulate the outcome. This rule is so stupid.
That would have killed Pearson's career. He preferred to stroke, laying back till the last part of a race, then run to the front, because he could. Few run 100% ALL race long.
@@davidbaird5985 only if it hurts the desired outcome of the bookies and/or hurts the France family feelings.. 😂
I think it affects the overall product, so it shouldn’t be allowed. It’s not really manipulating the outcome. It is pretty shitty if you paid for the race weekend and your guy runs 90% of the race in the back.
@@rockinredneck57 the tortoise and the hare situations
Another reason for NASCAR to lose some more fans. It all started when they wanted to go nation wide and leave their base fans and has down with each change they have made since then. Everyone does not agree with me but I think all the added night time racing did not help either for the local fan base. Someone needs to start another sanction body to replace NASCAR.
I'm out. Nascars becoming a joke.
"becoming"? Dude, it's been one for years. I haven't watched since 2017. Glad I stopped.
Flat tire puts you behind the wall? Horse Hockey!!
Only if you can't drive back to Pit road but change tires your good
If it's just flat tires, they should drop the car in their pit stall so they can change them there.
@@johnhaas2523 if the car wasn't such a terd design, it could drive back to its stall on the rims. Without getting stuck in the defuser/chassis
@NeedsLessWedge The car is not a turd So f****** watch what you say. The reason it can't if you stop is because there's rub blocks the car can get stuck on and they exist for a reason. It's not like can run iner tires with the wheels used. Its not a big deal now with rule changes as Even if they tow you to the garage because of tires you can change the tires and come back out
The Kyle Larson rule is BILLSHIT
No it's not
So just ignore the changes we want like no playoffs, no stages, more horsepower, no charters and more idiotic fake manufactured drama
The fans that want nothing to do with entertainment aren't going to ever get what they want. NASCAR is in the entertainment business everything is required to like it and know it and tv pays the bills
Entertainment is real competition. Nascar is like the recent Mike Tyson “fight” that he threw: the outcome was fixed- Tyson stepped back every time he could have stepped forward and ko’d Paul to the canvas in one punch and a three-swing combination. It was disgusting, just as the fake logano championship was disgusting. Logono was eliminated, and they gave him a provisional. Stupid.
Is Gavin Newsome now running NASCAR?
Crazy but it might not be worse. Pretty sad
Get rid of stupid stage racing. What happened to the iron man winning out?
20 years ago fan’s were screaming that’s what they wanted. I was not one of those, I hate it.
There are no iron men today.
I think the last Iron Man was Bobby Labonte
I wish they would get rid of the flat tire rule about getting towed back and being out. Talk about race manipulation lol.
The rule changed
@johnhaas2523 I must have misunderstood it. Have to watch again
Guarantee fans will return if they dropped stages and playoffs. We already have that in football. Just race. First one over the line wins. Stupid simple.
Fans are required like everything that is good for entertainment
The foolishness is them (nastycar) trying to make people accept the revisionist definition of what “race” means. Automotive racing is a team sport but not like football or baseball.
Racing - a race- is a bunch of INDIVIDUALS competing on equal ‘ground’ until one - ONE- is in first place at the end of the designated distance.
Looks to me thar Nazi (nascar) are making rules for certain people, they must hate Indy car
How about a Joey Logano Rule? Do nothing. Say nothing. Bring nothing. Eat vanilla ice cream. What Star power he brings to the sport. Nawwww. Let’s stick it to Kyle Larson.
I ALREADY MADE UP MY MIND LAST YEAR BEFORE THE LAST RACE OF THE SEASON …! I TURNED OFF NASCAR AND HAVENT WATCHED SINCE…! I FIGURED A Penske car was going to win since lagoono and Blamey seem to have that track figured out .. AND THERE IS NO WAY LAGOONO DESERVED IT IN MY BOOK SO MY RULE CHANGES ARE AFTER 40 + YEARS IM OUT ! IM A BIG KYLE LARSON FAN SO ILL FOLLOW HIM ON DIRT AND INDY…🤢😷😂
The Joey Logano Rule is that you get to win “the championship” (sic) after not qualifying for the illogical fake “playoffs.”
They might as well give out the championship trophy before the green flag drops at Daytona.
NASCAR sucks! Waste of time and money! Watch dirt racing if you want to sit up and watch some good racing!!
Hey Charlie, any comment on The Bob Pockrass report that came out earlier this week stating that Nascar has now limited teams to 3 charters except for a couple of teams, basically rewriting the charter agreement contracts AFTER they have been signed?
And also reported that the France family are making plans to form their own Cup team??
I didn't think so but thanks anyway😅
Thank you Charlie !
you're welcome, Ermin!
IN THE FACE OF A SERIOUS ANTITRUST LAWSUIT.......NASCAR COMES UP WITH CHICKEN S_____T RULE CHANGES.........WAY TO GO NASCAR !!!!!!!!!!
Hahaha
How are any of these rule changes going to bring in more fans, and make Nascar better. Nascar should not be able to stop any driver from competing in any race of their choice if given the opportunity, Nascar is trying to own the driver's like a slave.
NASCAR isn't stopping anybody. Kyle is still doing the 500 but if delay he leaves for Charlotte like should have last year
NASCAR SUCKS-sucks-sucks.
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Ok so DVP is gone, why 8 minutes at Atlanta?
Folks, Teams will do what theyve been doing for decades, except in the new NextGen/Sports Car Series era. There was a time teams would changes engines in the race. The Wood Bros could change one in about 15 minutes. So this rule isnt new, its getting ris of an incredibly stupid rule from the NextGen Sports Car Ringling Bros and NASCAR Circus
I believe because takes longer to get down pit road
The Junior Johnson & Associates race team could change an entire engine in 11 minutes!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS A FACT!!!!!!! This is the very reason why NASCAR officials stopped teams from doing this because of safety concerns or issues!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the info 😊
Nascar is a dying entity, all the rules and cars are boring as heck.
False
I’m sure some were hoping these were changes to the playoffs. I know I do
Still could be
Hélio is pronounced Élio. The "H" is silent. 😅
Not my fault some people can't pronounce the "H"...
it's really easy if you practice....
NASCAR have seen how SVG brought so many more fans to NASCAR from around the world and want more of this action
The lawsuit just got a lot of new ammunition against NASCAR! Does Nascar even talk to their Lawyers?
They better settle out of court. If the fans see the income disparity NASCAR as an institution is finished. Fans are going to be pissed.
Kenny won't give this his Love😮
But I sure in the hell will😂
❤
Breaking News: Nascar bans fans who "just like good, real racing" from watching sport. A NASCAR spokesperson commented "We don't feel there will be a huge need to enforce this rule as nearly every decision we have made for over 20 years have driven these folks away already. We're seeking bring new, transient fans in with exciting and manufactured drama." Former NASCAR fan, Tony Stewart, said "I lost interest in it already so this won't affect much, especially since I'm into drag racing now anyhow."
Once again, it's not based on performance, but strictly upon who NASCAR wants in the race. BULLSHIT!!
False
The Indy 500 is bigger than any Nascar race.
Dumb question, but isn't intentionally wrecking someone manipulating the race outcome?
No meaningful changes except for DVP. No aero or HP changes. Always fluff, no meaningful change.
Hahaha
So if a Doctor says he is not fit to race due to dehydration, on the plane from Indy 5 min prior to start, driver gets a medical exemption. no penalty for attempting the double and missing the race.
There's no penalty for Kyle Larson doing the double anyway as long as Indy starts on time and not like last year
It's not about Larson not doing the double. It's about Larson the Nascar driver not being in the car at Charlotte. When that happened all I thought was I'd be pretty mad if I was at that race as a Larson fan. Definitely felt bad for his fans. Big names entering in other series is awesome for the racing community but it can't impede with the drivers OG racing.
They cleared up and fixed some B.S. IMO.
Everything anyone does during a race manipulates the outcome. How fucking dumb... How does Nascar plan to police THAT? There's another suite down the line
I was thinking about blaney and lagoneo in vegas last year. How do you police that?
What does the lawsuit have to do with this?
I guess, I don't understand what NASCAR OFFICIALS are trying for. Mario Andretti, AJ Foyt, Parnelli Jones, Jim Hurtubise, Bobby and Donnie Allison, and others drove everything with wheels. So now this generation of NASCAR officials, sees this as a detriment to the sport ??
Who gives a CRAP NASCAR SUCKS!!!
True Nascar Fans are absolutely SICK of the Non Racing that goes on now. How many Zillion times do we have to listen to "I was able to get to him but, I got Aero Tight, Aero Loose, Bad Air made it impossible to do anything once I got to him" There is a very fine line between the Corporations that run Nascar and the Fans that want to watch it anymore. It's getting tough to watch it on TV nowadays much less go to a race in person. Make racing, racing again and get rid of this AERO CRAP!!! Nascar needs to find a way to replicate the Late 80's early 90"s racing in a Greased Lightning Quick kinda way!! It was watchable then, not so much now. LFG!!!
Mike Wallace prevision
False
Don’t hate Joey if he still wins Championships
Might also mention it was once racing now it's money
Wonder if retired drivers might use this rule to make a run.
Nascar just go back to the way it use to be if you miss a race you don't get any points,get rid of the charters,go back to 43 cars for a race,get rid of the playoffs and let the teams fix the cars back at the garage
But you wanna know what else is massive
LOWWWW TAPERRRR FADEEEE
Do they still have a spot for past champi,
Ok.. CUP Cars are NOT actual "Manufacturer Cars". What a joke...
Haven't been i over 40 years and Xfinity series cars and same with the trucks never been
@@johnhaas2523 yes they still ran manufacturer cars in the 90's. went down the toilet when the "Car of Tomorrow" showed up. 2012 was the last year for Dodge. And Toyota showed up, and bought their way into NASCAR. Toyota Camry never was a V8 and rwd car. Supra is a RWD car but has a inline 6 in it. Mopar is only involved in NHRA. Toyota is only legal in the Truck Series.
but you know what else is massive
LOL
So a 'medical' emergency is a free pass for the playoff points to remain? What about another Kyle Busch incident where a drivere races in another series, gets injured, sits out a number of races with no repercussions. Seems like there needs to be a blanket policy across the boards then such as miss a race - your out but this is a cookie cutter policy seen to specifically target the Kyle Larson weather fiasco AND an Indy-Charlotte attempt.
That's still medical
@@johnhaas2523 Self-imposed injuries driving in another series - not a 'regular' medical like family emergency/medical or say COVID.
@kenwayne7709 It doesn't matter when it comes to if you get hurt driving another series unless it's not nascar at all.
When Nascar started people showed up and qualified if you qualified you raced if not you went home didn't matter if you were 18 or 80. Come on Nascar get back to the roots
So the provisional starter doesn't get the prize money?
Yes
@johnhaas2523 wow so who gets it and why wouldn't the driver get paid
So it looks like Nascar has hire Vince McMahon out of retirement.
Another reason I got to find a good Baseball game on Sundays.😂
Why did I follow the Kenny Wallace channel and some other dude is giving updates
Too many rules as it is, ridiculous. Nascar will go extinct if they keep this crap up.
False
I just seen this and I feel good I haven’t watched nascar for 2 years it SUCKS
if a nascar driver is at indy 500 driving he HAS TO LEAVE in time to get to for the nascar race
Mike Wallace ?
The more I follow NASCAR. The more I follow less.
NASCAR fan from around 1986/87
Manipulating the outcome- does that go for the outcome of non winning positions?
Kyle can’t be penalized if he gets the flu after winning the Indy. Problem solved with lame new rule.
haha
Too damned many rules. Way too many damned rules.
Pastrana wants
NASCAR should get back to RACING
FIA WEC, IMSA, Formula One, Indycar will be exciting in 2025. I will watch and listen to NASCAR but DEI is inventing these rules to play God over who wins and who loses. Larson deja vu in Indianapolis and Charlotte regardless of draconian rules.
A bunch of garbage looks like I'm fishing this year
Their pretty boy Larson 😂😂😂😂 wha wha wha 😢
The only rule change I want to hear is that they have abandoned the playoffs all together.
They've already said the playoffs are permanent though they are open to changing the format. You required to be educated and know that and like it because NASCAR is in entertainment business and that you're also required to like
@ I know what they said. It’s disgusting that NASCAR has reimagined itself as being in the entertainment business. The fact that every team in NASCAR competes against each other at every event makes the use of a playoff system to determine the season champion comical.
Yeah want to bring more in but forgot where they started
I haven’t watched NASCAR in 6 years. It’s a f*ckin’ joke. Come on NHRA and dirt track racing.
NAScrap sucks what can they fix in that time?
Boo Nascar ...
It’s still wing racing, double file restarts, and stages. 🤮👎👎👎👎👎 .. go back to 1990 and try again.
"nascar" loss me years ago, with too many new race tracks, & too many races ! & conformity of cars ! never swatch anymore !
Their play off format sucks balls anyway so who gives a shit ? The only real championship format is the original one and it's the one all other racing formats use !
I thought Fox wasn't televising the races anymore?
NBC and Fox have a few each for 2025.
When does prime start handling the broadcast and Dale Jr?
@@NeedsLessWedge The five races on Prime are from the 600 to Pocono, then the same team on TNT for 5 races, Atlanta to Indy.
@@mpf1947 great. Can't wait. Unlike cable and national broadcast, prime won't cut off the post race or pre race parts and will stick the broadcast, not rushing things. Now TNT..maybe a diff story, will see.
Thursday night football on prime has been good to go this year.
NASCAR has been trash since they went to stages, playoffs, no racing back to the flag, etc.
Strange that NASCAR would change rules after Matt Kenseth has retired. They usually only change things based on what Kenseth has done or has not done. We are in uncharted waters now.
Nascar can take all this and the rest of the rules, use them to their advantage. Meaning anyone that bad talks them, they have a rule.
I’m glad NASCAR’s motion to dismiss was denied. These rules are some crooked BS
Get rid of the playoffs NASCAR. Its so fake.
Never happening they've already said the playoffs are permanent They are open too changes though of the format. NASCAR's in the entertainment business
@@johnhaas2523 That can change. Look at all the woke companies trying to pivot now to exist under Trump. Companies will deny deny deny until they change. You must be extremely young and gullible.
Nascar is God, If you dont believe me just ask them...
These rules are a joke.
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Nascar 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So long Asscar
thank God I stopped watching nascar year ago and so did a lot of others I have talked too way too much bs
How did they make this shiz up? Is Brian France back?? 🍻🍻
Special drivers. That's sounds fair. Qualify to race just like the old days when men were men. Glad they don't force me to watch this stuff.
They need another racing league like what High Limit did to World of Oulaws Sprint Car Racing . Just give teams an option to leave the drama behind and go race somewhere else!
Oh the trashcar fans crying again
Just let the drivers race...let injunuaty from teams make cars better...we don't want kart racing that determines who has a better kart ...
10 of us used to be really big NASCAR fans and attended many many races … now with all these rules and constant rule changes have turned NASCAR into a joke. Have Just as much fun going to the interstate and watch traffic. See more action without all the pace laps and yellow flag lap. Get back to racing and you might get fans back.
Nascar is starting to be a fucking joke
Starting to?
lol.
Been that way since dale died
@johnwright3843 Drivers have stopped getting killed since Dale died.
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I hope Larson just leaves and goes Indy racing permanently, continuation of stupid rules made by non racers. Welcome mats for newbies deemed worthy, but it isn't reciprocal for NASCAR stars.🤦🏼♂️
Clown. Larson should have done the right thing last year leave Indy to be in Charlotte on time because NASCAR is his day job
@ please note Rick was involved in all decisions made, and was a partner on the Indy ride and approved all decisions. He will be there again this year.
@markjuron8231 It doesn't matter if Rick approved it or not.
@ I enjoy seeing KL driving in all forms of motorsports and performing at a top level, life is short drive where you want, when you want, as did Mario and AJ. Let the chips fall where they do…. In my opinion after a long time in and around racing this is a poor strategy by NASCAR. It has never worked in local racing and it won't work here. He will run the double again this year, and they will pull his points, it will only make winning the NASCAR Championship sweeter. I look forward to seeing him next week in Tulsa, and I won’t be at Daytona for the first time since ‘72. While I appreciate your perspective, the best talent will gravitate to fulfillment of their dreams, it ain't about money, it is about those dreams and trophies.
@markjuron8231 NASCAR wasn't happy he missed the 600 and chose the 500.if the 500 starts on time it's not an issue
Just let them get in another car and go bc all their crap is the same....wreck it...get in another one
STOP THE POS STAGE RACING OR JUST RUN SHORT RACES PERIOD !!!!!
NASCRAP SUCKS! I was a nascar fan for 30 years but they lost me and many others. Last 15 years I was a fan sucked too. Screw NASCRAP! Check out your local dirt tracks. By far best racing you will find!
The waiver change is BS. Doing the double brings huge attention to NASCAR, the drivets should get bonus points for it not penalized for acts of God causing a missed race while attemptimg to make the two races.
Doing the double is fine if Indy starts on time. Everybody should have known this is coming because NASCAR was pissed off last year at Kyle and HMS and rules stated as is you most attempt to start every race and Kyle didn't and skipping the start to run the 500 isn't a good reason for a waiver