THE RISE OF BANGTAN - Chapter 15: Pied Piper REACTION
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I remember talking to a co worker and we were discussing music. She asked who I listened to and I said BTS. She asked who they were, so I pulled up something on you tube. Her response? Ewww, they're Asian!. Really pissed me off. Another said "why, when you can't understand them?" Ever heard of subtitles? This same person listened to Desposito on repeat. I said "you don't speak spanish, why do you listen to it?" Cause it's a good song. SO IS MUSIC FROM KOREA! So is music from any other country. What makes english so superior? Open your mind and yoy'll discover a whole world of beautiful music.
Can you imagine if she said, "Eww, they're black"? Racism against Asians is normalized in this country.
Best comment !!! I love music from all countries and languages.
Late reply here ... it is not much of a surprise & stretch that that type of xenophobia, racism & prejudice goes back decades & centuries, especially in the United States, where the country was founded on all 3 of those aspects. Manifest Destiny. That superiority complex & mentality is still here today, although a tiny bit more relaxed, especially in western countries. When someone says "Ewww, they're Asian!", that is the evidence of the thinking that went on centuries ago that still lives on today. "StopAsianHate" was also huge evidence that that hate is still here, it just happened to come out of the woodwork during the recent pandemic. KPop is an industry that is rooted in western music. The origin of KPop is the United States, not South Korea. In fact, most of Korea's modern music is westernized. If any music from Korea uses 12TET & also uses guitars, piano, sax, drumsets AND electronics, then that is the concrete evidence of westernization. There is a reason why BTS & KPop resonate with fans worldwide & that is because most of the world has also become westernized, through physical, cultural AND musical conquest. Had BTS & KPop been making music in traditional Korean music theory & styles, they would have never left Korea & still become a niche industry, much like Korean Pansori & Trot music these days (of which Trot music itself is also from the US). So there is some dichotomy & juxtaposition when it comes to BTS & other KPop groups, as they are all originally a western concept, yet they are sometimes discriminated against by the west. It is something that haters & lovers of KPop/BTS are not much aware of, until now after I've explained it for those reading this, heh.
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Is it just me, but I always end up in tears no matter how many times I've seen the same clips ovrer the years. Happy and sad tears... Miss BTS as a whole too at the moment even though I know they're all still there doing their thing. 💜
No, I always like that too😭
I literally just watched this yesterday and I'm still in tears.
@@zoeypoeee i think i watched it more 10x. Plus the reaction video, still the impact is the same. Crying and at the same time proud for their achievements💜
Same
I always like that I end up crying 😭 they are my everything they r so precious I love them so much 😘
An info that is missing is that bts was not originally invited to bbmas, then bang pd did an interview when he stated that bts had cleared the day of the bbmas in case they would be invited. After the intervew army went hard on social asking for them to be invited and only then bts actually got an invitation. Basically, usa's industry didn't really want them there but army kinda forced them 😂
ON was my rabbit hole 2 years ago..I am 63 years old and never noticed the make up. In my past musical appreciation there were hippy bands, hair bands, hard rock bands and pop bands... I went through so many musical changes that its just a musical expression - much like a great guitar or dancing or make up ( think KISS ) 😂. People now a days just need to learn to let it be. If its not your thing - move on, no reason to attack what you don't like or understand.
17:26 this clip always looks like Suga being the gang boss with his gang members 😁
This is one (of many) of my favorite moments in ARMY history. I was still a "closet army" at the time (so sad!) but they were so pure and GENUINELY thankful for the opportunity to be there. It wasn't "how much of an impact can we make - let's take advantage" - it was "ARMY gave us this opportunity - let's not waste it" and there is a HUGE difference.
can I just say, I appreciate you three for being genuine in your reactions? I started watching your BTS reactions yesterday and now I'm binge-watching your RISE OF BANGTAN series. I also agree that not all who feel uncomfortable when they first see the make-up & other stuff unique to kpop doesn't automatically mean they're racist, there are people who are used to it. It's not always about the initial feelings/thoughts, it's human nature, what matters is what you do about them. Will you be an "a" or explore and try to understand?
I'm enjoying your reactions guys! Thanks for appreciating BTS!
Thank you so much! 💜💜💜
I watch you guys since the first time reactions to BTS, was a long ways but now for sure we a family ,amazing reactions as usual thank you 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
On the subject of the makeup thing and the whole K-pop soft esthetic, it challenges the western male beauty standard of the tall strong muscle man with the sharp masculine face. BTS are God's sent to a lot of girls and women who prefer guys who are closer to them and it's an eye opener for guys too. Shaking mentality is a good things 🦋
You guys hit a lot of points that’s real and we can just hope that someday everybody will just RESPECT each other. It’s free to dream and I have FAITH that we as ARMY will continue to support BTS and will forever be INSPIRED and be PROUD of them! BTS FIGHTING!!! 🫶💜🫰🏼
Sorry - I am obviously commenting as this goes lol - but it's INSANE to hear JK say something like "this is a once in a lifetime opportunity." they really had NO IDEA.
I will always cry when I see army singing back to the tannies. I hope to be in that crowd someday💜
I forget who discussed it and where - but this day caused a bit of an issue for RM. He got very overwhelmed as the day went on and felt like there was so much pressure on him. I think Hobi (?) and a few others said this is part of the reason they started to focus on learning English - so RM would never have to go through this again. I can't imagine how hard it was on him - there is so much we didn't see too.
proud army here since 2018..🥰🥰🥰i am so proud myself following their journey.BTS fandom is amazing
Elvis was critised for make up coloured outfits and called a girl. Michael Jackson, David Bowie Elton John and many others. BTS had to start with that look and conform to that image and gradually move away from heavy make-up. In other words they grew. Just look at them now in 2022. I'm a senior Army and definitely understand where they were coming from. AMP theory have really smart honest intelligent reactions. Thankyou💜
After Paper award (Top social artist)many kpop groups made Twitter account.
BTS is the blueprint.
Watch Trend that BTS has created by Boracity magazine
Thank you guys for watching those videos with respect, attention and interest .
💜🫰🏼 Great reaction. Growing and learning is a part of life. Without it, you are just not really living.
I was in my teens in the 70s and my 20s in the 80s, I listened to lots and lots of rock n roll, most of the groups/artists I listened to wore loads more makeup then most of the K-pop groups do. So, I just don't understand why people have hangups about the makeup. If anything, it enhances their looks, not that they need any enhancement, LOL, they are gorgeous men and women to begin with. I am relatively new to K-pop (3 years now) and I have to say that I am exclusively ARMY as I only listen to BTS as of right now. I have heard other songs by other K-pop groups and some I like and some I would probably need to listen to again to make a rational decision. For me, right now BTS is the most I can handle. And as Peter said, racism is unexcusable!! What is sad is that they are STILL receiving racist hate!!
I appreciate you guys being honest about the makeup thing. It can be a little jarring if you're not used to men wearing makeup, but I hope people can understand that it's an aesthetic just like anything else. The whole "men shouldn't wear makeup" idea is rooted in homophobia (whether we want to admit it or not). But as long as we approach these things with an open mind and allow ourselves to grow as people, I feel like it's okay. After all, we're all a product of our surroundings and not all of us are lucky enough to grow up in a perfect environment. The only thing we can do is try to keep an open mind.
I loved your discussion at the end. Thank you for being so open and honest about how your opinions and thoughts may have changed through your journey. Being open minded and willing to learn about new things is a great quality to have. I always wish I would of discovered bts sooner- when I think back to hearing about them on a show etc in 2017, 2018 and thinking there is no way I'd be into it - I want to hit myself cause think of all I could of experienced it live. But I found them when I needed to and am so happy I did.
Thank you so much for saying that Peter. I remember watching the first bts reaction n I remember just feeling angry and defensive. But thank you 💜 I watched all ur BTS reactions to this day and You guys make me smile all the time.
I was so active on twitter around 2012-2014 then i suddenly stopped. Durinf the time i stopped i heard twitter was so toxic and i didnt know about why. I joined twitter again months ago just for bts, now i understood why. The old twitter only shows you the tweets of whoever you are follwing, no topics, npthing else not unless you search for it. Now, twitter shows you everything not just the tweets/people you follow. It helps people to see all the negativity, and you as a person who reads the hate it's easy to reply and tweet hate as well. Hatred on your timeline is crazy even if you dont want to see them they're there on your feed because it includes the topic you follow. I check twitter maybe once a month or just to chrck bts' tweets. The platforn is annoying actually.
never follow Twitter topics especially bts related all you will see is haters. just follow army accounts and especially bts official accounts.
@@VictoriaLovesMusic i only follow around 15-20 official accounts (including bighit hybe 7fates etc) but my feed is full of the topics i am tired of reading so i rarely check my twitter. Cant seem to get rid of them.
Vote for BTS on FNS
Have you followed Army voting acc
@@ilikehatecommentsmorethann5825 i am voting everyday with my 3 accouts
Always looking forward to bts reactions yayyyyyy
I love finding genuine reaction TH-camrs like y'all who don't fake their excitement and praise for bts for clout- y'all keep it as real as possible
I really enjoyed the discussion you guys had at the end of the video 😊💜
Yessss 💞 great reaction as usual
I was happy that you broke down your thoughts about the Twitter and racism part of this video. They were pushing the more racist tweets quite a lot in the video, but I do think that the majority of it was that people genuinely had never heard of BTS before this point. And they seemed to come out of nowhere in the eyes of many in Americans, so they were frustrated that these people who they’ve never heard of had “taken” an award that they felt should have gone to their favs (like Justin Bieber or Ariana Grande, more recognized names in the US at the time). The fan wars within Korea and the rest of the world can get just as nasty (remember the trending of JHope is ugly, etc, in earlier episodes). So while some of it was definitely racism (Twitter is kind of a breeding ground for echo-chambers of all sorts), a lot of it was people not knowing who the hell BTS was and feeling like they “took” the award from their fav artist. I appreciate your more thoughtful take on it, as a lot of reactors just get furious and don’t even take the time to think it through. You can be mad that the boys had to go through that and see those kinds of comments while still acknowledging that the majority of Americans had no clue who BTS was at that time. Thanks for your reaction💜
Happy you are back guys
This episode always makes me cry
props for the nuanced conversation at the end
Love your reaction
Thank you for your honesty! That's why we love you. Fun reaction as always. I'm proud of of seeing this family grow 💜
By the way, J-Hope featured on a new song from Crush called "Rush Hour". Very groovy and funky, please check it out :)
Wow, you guys! You move fast!!! Thanks for this and rest between reactions! ^^
NO MMS GOT ME CRYING AT CLASSSSS
Bangtan and armys relationship is really unique and unrealistic, is imposible to think of bts without mention army and viceversa, is like we are one body.
Extraño mucho a BTS este episodio y su reacción me hizo sentir muy emocional y nostálgica al tiempo. Tuve la fortuna de conocerlos desde Febrero de 2017 y cambiaron mi vida por completo, pude verlos ganar el Top Social Artist en vivo y jamás olvidaré que ese día llore tanto de lo feliz y orgullosa que estaba de los chicos. Gracias por sus reacciones son increíbles
Great reaction as always ...👏👏👏👍👍👍💜💜💜
Super, ultra, uber is going to be my new favorite phrase lol! I loved the reaction manitos! Ngl I love seeing you go into army defense mode especially lol!
💜BTS 💜 BTS 💜🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱
Siempre va a ver gente mala sangre!!y a esa gente la mueven los famosos que tiemblan por que van a tener buena competencia,y no les gusta perder,pero así es el éxito, una amantes que se va ir con el que tiene que darle,es muy ambiciosa,y lo que se ve no se jusga,biene unas generaciones que grasias a la tecnología estamos conosiendo,y la verdad con mejores letras en sus canciones,ya es tiempo que la música vuelva a enamorar,y recuerden la música no es RAZISTA,ES UNIVERSAL Y TIENE TODOS LOS COLORES Y MATICES!!!!Y VOTO POR ELLO,ME HACE FELIZ!!!
Magandang umaga guys. I haven't seen any episode of The Rise of Bangtan . This is my first, i cried buckets when they won their first BBMA. Thank you guys. Love your reaction as always. Borahae.
you should also check out their episodes (behind the scenes) of the awards shows ✌🏻💜
Fuck. It gets me every time. I'm gonna go cry and listen to 2,3!! now haha.
I'm from Europe we're used to listen to songs not in our language. When i didn't know any English i still listen to English songs and i didn't care about language. I don't care what language song i listen to is. Good music is good music.And most of us are like that but when it comes to any Asian language people are... weird. I don't know if it's rasizm or language preference but it's like that unfortunately.
You cured your ignorance (like MANY OF US) - and that is the difference
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Gracias por reaccionar a los chicos y sj historia ,por favor siganlo haciendo 💜
I believe that everyone that goes on stage, TV, or acts in movies or music videos wears make-up, so picking BTS out for it is just ridiculously stupid, it all comes down to the fact that they are afraid of their success.
me encanto su reacción al video recién lo pude ver sus palabras sobre el racismo son ciertas, no se entiende por tendría que haber esto es música y allí lo que prevalece es el talento y la creatividad y allí no tiene sentidos las barreras porque la música es una sola y tiene un solo mensaje. gracias saludos 💜
Iam an Asian and i really appreciate your opinion thank you
ASMR over the lolly pop noises vs. Misophonia 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ahhh this lolipop made me so anxious that I had to pause every 5 minutes.... Like I get shivers every time I think about it... Uuuu
How hasn’t anyone from the US seen, heard or read about male singers, actors and the like wearing damn makeup??? That’s so ridiculous. Anyway good reaction guys, see you on the next episode.
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There’s something wrong with that boy 😂😂😂😂😂💜
This was when they still thought BB was the pinnacle of the music industry along with the grammy's... That's why they were so emotional. Now, they've seen all. And we've seen all. But we mfing won against JB, Ariana, Selena and Shawn. YES!
And just as a note, I've been watching award shows all my life, and not even 5% of the artists refer to their fans (even if it's not a fan voted award). Keep an eye on that, that's why Bangtan rises. Because they stay on the ground even if they are all that. And much more.
The racism never stops. Not only people on twitter or trolls, which would be... meh. Personalities. People with a platform are such a$$holes.
The makeup jokes... like all artists present wear fuc*ing makeup. ALL-OF-THEM.
GUYS please react to crush and j hopeeeee
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Y ACUERDENSE,NO SON MONEDITA DE ORO,PARA CAERLE BIEN A TODOS!!! ADEMAS USTEDES SON UNOS HERMOSOS PRESIOSOS SEXY BOTE!!JAJAJA
There are all kind of racist people and yes can't be defeated.. It's about defending sistematic racism.. And that is about the people we give power to, in politics and administration, from presidents and other elected leaders to schools directors and teachers
guys not to be that person but you missed chapter 7 deleted scenes and bonus content
Make up on male performers isn't strange to me here in the UK, as in the past we had glamrock and new romantics, amongst others, who wore far more at times than those in kpop. Twitter is particularly toxic at times and the right to free speech that most of us have is no excuse for some of what I see on there. We should never use people being different as an excuse to being unkind, racist or otherwise. Great reaction, thank you guys!
React to crush jhope rush hour
I love how you guys react to exo 💕💕💕💕
Pls pls react Jin visual..tnx
This makeup 'thing' is wierd in US... Elvis got critisim coz makeup and moves, Michael Jackson use makeup, visuals, Prince... never heard glam-rock?... maybe in Europe we are more use to it or do I just feel that way? Mozart was makeup (and wig😂), meny UK /european bands even back at 80-90s, Duranduran, David Bowie... punk/rockbands... Everybody on tv use makeup, theater/movies... but people maybe really dont THINK about it, so they are😳? 😂 Sorry my english and greetings from the edge of Europe
you guys should react to txt
Next time plz react to it's summer rock Jin go by all about BTS Jin channel. It will show another aspect of his voice. Rock genre is his favourite genre.
please reaction another sing in born pink black pink like The Happiest Girl and Typa Girl
Justin Bieber is Canadian. It's not necessarily an "American" thing. Have a great week. 💜
I’m not & never have been on Twitter for this reason as their will always been hateful, stupid people allowed to speak their toxicity and prejudices freely without judgement or consequences unfortunately
Why you don't reaction to kim namjoon( sexy nukim)???????????? 🧐🧐
Guys plz react to exo too🥺☺️☺️☺️☺️
Please react to Lay's New MV "VEIL" 🎭
Unfortunately the racism wasn’t just on Twitter
Can you guys please react to Exo- Lucky One and Love me right❤️❤️❤️❤️
Y RECUERDEN LA GENTE RAZISTA,ES RAZISTA CON ELLA MISMA,POR QUE NO ENCUENTRA SU PROPIA IDENTIDAD,Y CRITICA AL QUE SABE LUCIR CON DIGNIDAD QUIEN ES,EL COLOR QUE TIENE Y DE DONDE ES,Y DONDE QUIERA HECHA RAIZES SIN IMPORTAR EL COLOR DE LA TIERRA!!
Personally i think the "racist" term is way over used. I just think there are people who are mean and rude without necessarily being racist and many post things to incite response. The whole make-up on men thing is not unique to Americans being put off by it. Even in Korea where it is more common and accepted, there are still a whole lot of people also put off by it. Remember the interview with SUGA and RM when they were criticized as not true hip-hop because of makeup? In some Run BTS and other behind the scene videos of the guys-- you see them remove their makeup as soon as the filming is finished before going home. So my point is, we need to stop accusing people of being racist just because they make a negative comment about KPop make up. I
You are right to some extent but you should not speak if it’s racism or not for a Korean or Asian person. It’s for them to determine and what it’s is from their perspective.
@@somyasingh8193 no one can speak for an entire group of people. We all can only speak for ourselves and our opinion, although sometimes we do express things in group terms. I put mine out as you did yours. As RM would say… “Speak yourself.”
Frankly ethnicity should not limit someone ability to think and express thoughts. But since you require a race card- yes I am Asian, unless you’re one of those people who don’t consider Philippines to be part of Asia. So, by your standard i qualify to express my remarks. This is an example of how you judged me to not be Asian and you’ve never even met me. The same goes for so many ARMYs who accuse people they’ve never met of being racist. It’s a sad representation of what BTS stands for.
@@sjm5750 to be fair, i think the reason they said what they did, is because only the people who are from that race will specifically get first hand experience with racism, and others won't necessarily know what they go through truly. and also they didnt judge you at all, they didnt want to assume whether you're asian or not.
@@sjm5750 I did not assume your race in anyway. You are literally putting words in my mouth and assuming whole lot by yourself. What is sad is you speaking over BTS experience with racism itself and other ppl who identified with it. What’s this “same goes for ARMYs” this is not a fandom thing, I think you understand it very well. It’s literally ingrained in the system effecting whole lot of ppl than just the Korean Music group. It got more highlighted through them. Which made more ppl speak about it. I don’t know how you are invalidating experience of so many ppl just cuz they belong to a “fandom”. You get to have your opinion but not to invalidate others experience.
But goodbye. Have a nice day
@@somyasingh8193 I got a bit heated with my response to you and I'm certainly not looking for a fight so I apologize for coming across that way. It's just the racism card is thrown out so much and it's a hot button for me. When you responded with "you should not speak if it’s racism or not for a ... Asian person" that certainly came across to me that I should not express my opinion on the matter unless I'm Asian. I found this remark to be divisive and insulting.
I had made my post specifically regarding what Peter was mentioning at the end of the chapter because of clips shown in the chapter. Clips of ARMYs of all nationalities and colors accusing people they don't know (of unknown nationalities) as racist ... not because of remarks said directly about as them, but internet remarks said of BTS and more specifically remarks about BTS' use of makeup. My point is, we need to accept that not everyone will like BTS. Just because someone express a negative remark about BTS like the use of make up or looking like girls--- we shouldn't accuse them of being racist. Accusing someone as racist who most likely isn't is worse than those who are making fun of BTS' make up.
Anyways I hope you have a good weekend. I do want to live up to the positive message of BTS. Borahae!
Please please reaction to nct Their real songs are very good some of the ones that may interest them are
Kick it
Cherry boom
Gimme gimme
Universe (lets play ball)
Superhuman
Resonance 2020
90's love
7th sense
Hello future
Make a wish
7th sense
That's lots of bull. American exposed to artists with makeup way before KPOP. Like KISSS, THE ROLLING STONE, ALICE COOPER, OZZY, MICHAEL JACKSON and many many more. That was acceptable by the American. Along came some Asian boys than is not ok.
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