This is me!! pt 2. lloyd didnt mention but im not an expert, just a humble fan of lindybeige that also happens to study and teach beginner classes in Shastar Vidiya.
Hell yeah! Thanks for introducing us to the wonderful world of Indian martial arts. I don't know why it never occurred to me to look this shit up XD I guess next on the list for me will be mesoamerican and african martial arts.
I can see how a hooked blade would be a useful implement for traversing thick african jungles as well. I would be more interested in their hand to hand combat though honestly.
Thanks for the video! I love to see different martial arts and this is a very different take on fighting than I’m used to. I can see how it would be effective in battle, especially in a hot climate!
roughly 6 years, and prior to this I'd been studying martial arts for about decade. mainly wing chun and boxing but also dabbled in other martial arts throughout my school and college years
+A law The Wing Chun background shined through! 😉 For how long have you practiced Indian Martial Arts? Do you teach or recommend a certain teacher for private lessons?
GorillaGuerilla In the first form the punches look very similar to wing chun, the only real difference is power generation. I've been doing Shastar Vidiya for roughly 6 years and teach beginner classes in south west london. There's another class (also suitable for beginners) in hammersmith masbro centre Check out our facebook page facebook.com/shastarvidiya
Your videos really are pleasure to watch and listen to, I hope you find lasting joy in creating them as they really are beneficial in terms of knowledge and entertainment.
I would love to see more of these, maybe with a little demonstration of the teacher showing us how a professional would do it. You know, just to see how amazingly fast of a learner Lindy is :P
Fun Fact shaolin Kung fu was founded by Indian monk 'Bodhidharma' who renounced his royal life as a king to become a buddhist monk.He was also the abbot of Shaolin Temple at a time.
So great that you're covering this. Indian martial arts are very interesting, intimidating, and not very well covered on TH-cam. They seem extremely appropriate for engaging several opponents at the same time. Looking forward to seeing more!
Loyd I am a huge fan. Love the fact that you are branching out and showing us something unusual, as well as actually demonstrating a technique, which is unusual for your channel, but again really nice change. I am frustrated however that we did not see a demonstration of the techniques by the expert. It would have still been great to see you learning and demonstrating the technique, just perhaps alongside and instructed by the expert. Thanks!
Lindy, you should do more videos like this! it was a great watch, as well as your follow up video to this. Really enjoyable and i'd love to see more videos with a similar theme
I've noticed that some prominent of Boxers utilize this bag like motion in some of there more relaxed rendition for jabs. Pawing Jabs, flicker Jabs, it's very different in spirit from your normal jabs, and this captures that perfectly. Thank for shining light on this ancient method
The drop and flick at about 6:30 could also help explain the shape of the pommels on Indian swords that Matt Easton has been trying to figure out. Interesting how body mechanics work.
Ah- but given your spelling we can assume you are not English. Perhaps you need to be English to appreciate the great untapped potential of the beige- designed for faking being mild and non-threatening .
Sox you can get in beige so I'm going yes on the sox, no on the underwear. Now, I'm sure someone at some point has made some beige underwear but it's not a really common thing. So, unless he really goes out of his way, I doubt it.
I love that you're becoming like Floyd. 10 minutes somewhere and already you're demonstrating how to cook their food and presenting it to their chefs :))
Iam by far not an expert martial artist, but i love experimenting on the heavybag and with my friends and i notice something funny, without real formal training just by trying we arrived at the same principals and body mechanics. seems like a very instinctive thing to do once you notice the boxers punch breaks your head wen hitting something hard
Very interesting. The technique is clearly suited to a curved blade. It's interesting to speculate whether the energy philosophy carried through to the sport of Cricket. The classic "Indian" batting technique is usually described with "wristy" flowing strokes, and finesse shoots like the leg glance or fine cut.
I quite like this as a method of punching - I've a mobility disability which prohibits me throwing a punch in the traditional western style, but that concept would allow me to throw a punch and not break myself
You are incorrect about the Wing Chun punch. A proper Wing Chun punch thrown without the arm muscles engaged, you only engage them at the last moment before impact and then release them immediately to keep the energy from your punch in the target instead of allowing it to be transferred back into your arm. It's a core WC principle that your arm from your fist to elbow is a blade of grass and from your elbow to your shoulder an iron bar. This technique is typically the first one you learn because every technique (Tan sao, Bong sao, Lap sao, etc etc) are punches at their core. That's why the hanging wall bag is used extensively in WC training. The goal is to be able to punch the bag and have it be bouncing off of the wall after each punch thus showing you are not allowing the energy to escape back into your fist (if you don't engage and disengage your muscles correctly the bag won't bounce). Thanks Loyd and keep your amazing content coming!!
you have learnt from a real master..the others is GM Yuli Romo and Soufian..understand the principles, other more intellectual arts is wingchun and russian systema..
Interesting style of fighting, are you going to be studying it Lloyd? It'd be interesting to see you do more. little interesting fact I just found out, the last Sikh warrior Nidar Singh Nihang (86), who has spent his life learning Sanatan Shastar Vidiya, lives in Wolverhampton. :)
Loyd, i do not know which wing tsun you learned, but these snap punches, which are stopped to PREVENT damage ,you might inflict onto your training partner, are only used in training without punching coushions, otherwise you are also supposed to go through your opponent. ( this sentance has too many commas, i am very much aware of it. Thank you very much. )Have a nice day to all who read this.
The real deal..most asian martial arts believe to stem from old india, with their adjustments to body, weapons and terrain..well done niko on intellect trumping over the plenty of martial artists..there is much you can learn from this fellow and his teacher to then bring up wingchun to this..principles are principles..then there are no rules, like you pointed out in your dance of lindyhop..something which many boxed in martial artists fail to understand from HEMA to kungfu..congrats !
This style from what i see in this video (and i may be wrong) would work very well together with some stuff from cane fighting or even some of the late western martial arts that came out of Europe (me thinks Bartitsu and similar). In my opinion anyway
The way the weapon fighting was shown makes it look like it is focused on neck strikes. The offense having many efficient attacks; while the defense is keeping the chin tucked, and staying a small target. It seems good for knife fighting. Is there a more defensive side to this style, or is it more "try to stay safe, and kill before you get killed"? BTW: Overselling those punches! What a martial arts thing to do.
Shukijo hey thanks for taking interest, you pretty much got it in one. the idea in Shastar vidiya is to bait then defend and attack as close to simultaneously as possible. The form and strategy does change slightly when in a duelling format as you can afford to take you time a bit more. But the general idea is as you said, stay safe and kill. As for over selling, I can only promise to that I'm not. Try it yourself it's not very hard, just relax the arm and focus on the shoulder blade rather than the fist or elbow as the driving force. I'll send a video of me doing it so you can see and hear the difference a little better. Check out the fab page facebook.com/shastarvidiya
Great vid Lindybeige. Being a Lancashire lad I do indeed know the ancient art of Ecky Thump. However the knowledge is only passed on to those with Northern Blood I'm sorry to say. It is deemed far too dangerous for Southern types. No offence old chap, it is genetic you see, as our knuckles are used to dragging on the floor. Funnily enough I was reminded of you earlier today. I was in town shopping for Pies and Coal as is want for a Lanky Lad, and in the corner of my eye I spotted a blur of Beige in the distance. Its harsh tones captured my attention and I stood quite amazed. The Biscuity figure reached down to the pavement and then returned upright, holding aloft a single lonely pink glove. He looked around in search of its rightful owner and then ever so gently placed it on one of the nearby railings, in the hope of its owner returning to rescue it later. Then he faded away into the crowd. I had indeed witnessed the rare sight of the Beige Bandit in action. Patron Saint of Lonely single gloves, kicked off Babies Shoes and spat out dummies. I really wish I had my camera. Peace from up North. Ken
similar concept to miyamoto musashi's style of kenjutsu, from my understanding the cuts in that are typically aimed more to land and do enough damage then go overkill with it, he also used the weight of the arm and sword to power one handed blows, allowing the sword to do alot of the work and really only creating enough energy to do fatal amounts of damage but not too much more, like no splitting people in half one handed. the short sword was then used to basically occupy the enemies blade long enough to allow for a kill shot, basically like having a shield however he could also strike with it. pretty sure he made some comment about people overpowering strikes as well, something to the effect of why split the man in half when you can make less of an effort and achieve the same effect of dead enemy. he also wasnt the biggest fan of really long swords, and although katana can be a little hard to weild one handed properly he found ways to make it easier and more effective, obviously enough practice will build the strength however if you can make things easier its less tiring meaning you can fight for longer.
oh and i believe you are referring to tonfa, they are pretty sick, mostly for blocking and accentuating punches, however yeah they have some strikes using the long end and swinging them and shit, however, im pretty sure you could probably cause more damage with a punch if you hit someone in the right spot like the collar bone or face, when you punch with them it often has the effect of either A) making you punch properly(in okinawan hand to hand arts at least, youre supposed to try and basically punch through the opponent, thing along the lines of keep the elbow from locking straight and imagine punching with a stump armed or with your elbows). or B) it greatly accentuates the previous effect and puts all the energy on a really hard surface so you can hit hard spots of the body without hurting yourself and it concentrates the energy into a smaller contact point, plus they allow you to basically block strikes from a sword or other bladed weapons to a degree.
So, it's like a martial art based on the same physics which cause a flail to deliver more energy to a target, than a mace would? Also, the sinking/dropping bit is very much found in many iterations of Kung Fu. And the 'side-handled' baton is called a Tanfa. And, while I don't doubt they have popped up in many east Asian country's histories, their earliest references come from ancient China. I'm not calling you out on details! I just thought you might find it interesting, as you've mentioned them in a couple videos.
It would be interesting to know whether this technique used with Roman and other contemporary swords would be effective. Does it tell us something about how they actually used those weapons? The fact that a big swing that misses when in armour throws the body out of balance is interesting and would not go unnoticed by ancient peoples.
This form of thinking remind me alot of Jeet kune do...where it isnt about ridgid thinking, its about taking advantage of what you can do best in the situation your in to fight someone. like if your on a muddy area you dont thrrow sweeping kicks cause youll be on your ass...but also if you find that they are wearing chest protection you target the arms and face and if wearing a helmet you attack the limbs...not adhearing to a closed minded style its about using all the styles to your advantage and using what works..I like it..Im sure Bruce Lee woulda loved to study this also.
for the master of Ek EE Thump you have to look for John Morris, ive also contacts for the ancient arts for EE Be Gum and if youre lucky, Ikley Bart Tat, but yould need a whippet for that one
A martial art designed for formation conflict against another formation isn't a good self defence martial art in the modern world. Who would have thunk it! Thank you arm chair warriors for explaining this to me.
Thanks for the video. One little correction. Karate is not an umbrella term for Japanese martial arts. Karate is actually a family of martial arts from Okinawa. Gichin Funakoshi introduced it to Japan back about 1920. You might have been thinking of JiuJitsu, which is actually Japanese.
It'd be really cool if you take a few brazilian jiu jitsu classes and make a video about it. It'd be great to get your opinion on a fighting system that has been made extremely popular by modern MMA etc.
A few people already mentioned the "karate is not an umbrella term for Japanese martial arts" bit, but I didn't notice anyone mentioning the proper ones: Generally seems to be Budo (Martial Way) for modern martial arts (and/or when adding flim flam to the mental side) and Bujutsu (Martial Arts/Skills/Techniques), though the latter also occasionally includes military strategy as well. Compare and contrast for example Kendo (modern fencing with limited application to real life sword fighting) and Kenjutsu (actual swordfighting), Judo (modern sport that's heavily formalized and stripped down from its origins, though still effective if used right) and Jujutsu (any number of old hand to hand fighting styles including punches, kicks, throws, locks, grappling, etc.) and so on.
Have the expert demonstrate it!! Lloyd, you're a great presenter, and your explanation as a newbie is valuable, but you should give equal time, after your explanation, to the instructor demonstrating and explaining it, so we can see how it's done. And give him a mic, too.
Was there ever a battle whip? I know gladiators used whips in the arena, but it seems like some would have used whips, especially farmers as they used improvised farming equipment.
I studied wing chun with sifu garry mckensey he is a very good teacher and a stand up guy he is very kind and understanding but remember just because I had a very good teacher it doesn't mean that I am any good at wing chun thank you for the video
very good video, but I think that the umbrella term for "martial arts" in japan is "jutsu", which would be something like "techniques", so: ken-jutsu (sword techniques), jiu-jutsu (I believe it's 'fists' techniques, but it might be a broader term), kyu-jutsu (bow techniques) and so on. the sportive version usually replaces the "jutsu" with "do", which means "Way of", such arts keep the spirit, the philosophy, but present it in a less deadly manner, they became popular after WW2, because USA prohibited Japan from praticing it's militaristic arts so as to prevent the beligerant philosophy from WW2 from resurfacing, allowing them to make less deadly versions so as to keep their culture, but some of the "Do"s were older than that, like Ju-do. Also, Ken-do "already existed", but not as we know today, it was seen as the philosophical part of ken-jutsu, not as a sportive version of it.
This is me!! pt 2. lloyd didnt mention but im not an expert, just a humble fan of lindybeige that also happens to study and teach beginner classes in Shastar Vidiya.
teach him everything you know so we can have more videos :D
i only had 2 hours lol. Hopefully he'll invite me back to go through some more in depth stuff
Hell yeah! Thanks for introducing us to the wonderful world of Indian martial arts. I don't know why it never occurred to me to look this shit up XD
I guess next on the list for me will be mesoamerican and african martial arts.
I can see how a hooked blade would be a useful implement for traversing thick african jungles as well. I would be more interested in their hand to hand combat though honestly.
Thanks for the video! I love to see different martial arts and this is a very different take on fighting than I’m used to. I can see how it would be effective in battle, especially in a hot climate!
This is me!!! thank you so much for coming down. Really enjoyed it :)
roughly 6 years, and prior to this I'd been studying martial arts for about decade. mainly wing chun and boxing but also dabbled in other martial arts throughout my school and college years
+A law
The Wing Chun background shined through! 😉
For how long have you practiced Indian Martial Arts?
Do you teach or recommend a certain teacher for private lessons?
GorillaGuerilla In the first form the punches look very similar to wing chun, the only real difference is power generation. I've been doing Shastar Vidiya for roughly 6 years and teach beginner classes in south west london. There's another class (also suitable for beginners) in hammersmith masbro centre
Check out our facebook page facebook.com/shastarvidiya
A law so yr name is Asanti Law... Interesting
who is "this" ? who is "me" ?
I am "me" too. Nobody takes away my "me" !
Great vidiya!
goldensheik I see what you did there.
goldensheik great minds think alike
Yes it's completely shastar!
Argh ya beat me too it
Aye tell you hwwaaaaat.
Beige floor, beige shoes, beige trousers, beige Lindybeige.
Beige.
Don't forget the signature beige Lindybeige shirt
My god.... how could I have forgotten. The shirt Lloyd was born wearing!
TRYHARD!! you look a little beige
England - the only country whre you get shown how to hit people effectively ...with a sign in the background saying "TEA CLUB"
Lindybeige this is all well and good but what we really want to know more about its the Tea Club this venue is hosting!
I've always found the diversity of styles and ideologies in martial arts just fascinating.
𝑆𝑖𝑘𝘩 𝑀𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑠
Best pun. Much respect.
I think you meant Best pun(ch).
And what about a Sikh that doesn't move?
you dislodge him with a pun-jab
Sikhs would love this thread lol. They'd bring the booze too.
I just love the instructors stance and how fluid he makes the motions look its all very cool.
Your videos really are pleasure to watch and listen to, I hope you find lasting joy in creating them as they really are beneficial in terms of knowledge and entertainment.
I would love to see more of these, maybe with a little demonstration of the teacher showing us how a professional would do it. You know, just to see how amazingly fast of a learner Lindy is :P
"A law" user ( the guy in this vid ) claims that he's no professional in it himself. But I'd still want to watch it
there's a video on my instagram of me hitting pad @asantehunter
Fun Fact shaolin Kung fu was founded by Indian monk 'Bodhidharma' who renounced his royal life as a king to become a buddhist monk.He was also the abbot of Shaolin Temple at a time.
Bodidharma was a expert in Indian martial art known as Kalaripayattu
Is there proof of this?
@@Monkforilla There are many temples for Bodhidharma in China. Chinese worship him
@@Monkforilla Yes there are. It's part of recorded history.
@@moksha-theheavenlybliss5717 Kalaripatattu is said to be thought by Parashurama
So great that you're covering this. Indian martial arts are very interesting, intimidating, and not very well covered on TH-cam. They seem extremely appropriate for engaging several opponents at the same time. Looking forward to seeing more!
Man, I love this channel.
The instructor looks exactly like one of the characters I once created for a roleplaying game!
That and an amazing video, thank You! :)
That was the most accurate mimicry of a slap I have ever heard.
I'd love to know how it was done
4:51 :)
Loyd I am a huge fan. Love the fact that you are branching out and showing us something unusual, as well as actually demonstrating a technique, which is unusual for your channel, but again really nice change. I am frustrated however that we did not see a demonstration of the techniques by the expert. It would have still been great to see you learning and demonstrating the technique, just perhaps alongside and instructed by the expert. Thanks!
Lindy, you should do more videos like this! it was a great watch, as well as your follow up video to this. Really enjoyable and i'd love to see more videos with a similar theme
this is a beautiful art, the flow incorporates what i first learned as the aikido concept of extension, though im sure every system has a name for it.
Interesting! They are a very clever people! I had not considered the leading foot inertial drop until now
I've noticed that some prominent of Boxers utilize this bag like motion in some of there more relaxed rendition for jabs.
Pawing Jabs, flicker Jabs, it's very different in spirit from your normal jabs, and this captures that perfectly.
Thank for shining light on this ancient method
The drop and flick at about 6:30 could also help explain the shape of the pommels on Indian swords that Matt Easton has been trying to figure out. Interesting how body mechanics work.
"You're watching this channel, so your probably interested in various ways of hitting people!"
Ah, Lindy, a man after my own heart.
Excellent! You should do more of these videos.
Can I assume your socks and undergarments are beige as well?
his blood is beige too
Beige. My least favorite color.
Ah- but given your spelling we can assume you are not English. Perhaps you need to be English to appreciate the great untapped potential of the beige- designed for faking being mild and non-threatening .
He must suck on beige colored cloth for substance.
Sox you can get in beige so I'm going yes on the sox, no on the underwear. Now, I'm sure someone at some point has made some beige underwear but it's not a really common thing. So, unless he really goes out of his way, I doubt it.
I really enjoyed this! Would love to see more demonstrations with guests!
I hope you upload more videos of this art.
An Introduction in Beigean Martial Arts ;)
"Shastra Vidya" literally means "Weapon Knowledge" in Sanskrit.
Shastra or Shastar ?
It's a typo. It's "Shastra" not Shastar.
actually it means "weapon video" in ancient sanskrit
It's shastra(शस्त्र) in Sanskrit, but shastar in Punjabi.
Naman Sharma the word Wisdom has maybe Sankrit roots. Vidya = Wisdom?
My god how tall are you? I've been watching you for three years only and never knew you're a giant!
He's about 195cm I think
Betulya Karol I believe he’s around 6’3, maybe 6’4. So to me, a measly 5’10, he is in fact a giant.
ARR0WMANC3R Can you translate that for those with an outdated measurement system?
Liquidsback What are you... French?
He's tall but i think that the other guy was also short so his height is exaggerated in contrast.
Last time I was this early, India and Pakistan were the same country
Chin Chin The Dark Lord Fuck, you old.
Liquidsback
I've been on this planet for eons
You have been around for Eons afterall.... waiting to punish Papa Franku.
Please accept these chromosomes as offerings!
Ive been hear for many chromosomes
I love that you're becoming like Floyd. 10 minutes somewhere and already you're demonstrating how to cook their food and presenting it to their chefs :))
I think this punch makes more sense than the regular punch
I am a master of Ecky-Thump, being from Lancaster. It requires great skill and you have to be a bit drunk.
Cheeki Breeki and I can play Icky Thump on Guitar.
Also known as Drunken-Brit style
how good is your windmilling?
GamenRyder Top class
How big is your Flat Cap?
Iam by far not an expert martial artist, but i love experimenting on the heavybag and with my friends and i notice something funny, without real formal training just by trying we arrived at the same principals and body mechanics. seems like a very instinctive thing to do once you notice the boxers punch breaks your head wen hitting something hard
Very interesting. The technique is clearly suited to a curved blade. It's interesting to speculate whether the energy philosophy carried through to the sport of Cricket. The classic "Indian" batting technique is usually described with "wristy" flowing strokes, and finesse shoots like the leg glance or fine cut.
Thank you for making this Shastar Vidiya! ;-)
I quite like this as a method of punching - I've a mobility disability which prohibits me throwing a punch in the traditional western style, but that concept would allow me to throw a punch and not break myself
You are incorrect about the Wing Chun punch. A proper Wing Chun punch thrown without the arm muscles engaged, you only engage them at the last moment before impact and then release them immediately to keep the energy from your punch in the target instead of allowing it to be transferred back into your arm. It's a core WC principle that your arm from your fist to elbow is a blade of grass and from your elbow to your shoulder an iron bar. This technique is typically the first one you learn because every technique (Tan sao, Bong sao, Lap sao, etc etc) are punches at their core. That's why the hanging wall bag is used extensively in WC training. The goal is to be able to punch the bag and have it be bouncing off of the wall after each punch thus showing you are not allowing the energy to escape back into your fist (if you don't engage and disengage your muscles correctly the bag won't bounce). Thanks Loyd and keep your amazing content coming!!
"Carefull I know have a stick" sounds much less threatening that it is^^
Beige vs black
There should be some Shastar Vidiya games
More of this please Sir Biege
If they're the expert and you're the noob, maybe let them demonstrate a thing or two?
A V I'm no expert, just someone who is studying the art. but if you'd like to see me demonstrating the same thing have a look on my channel
th-cam.com/video/qHXV4PSM82M/w-d-xo.html
you have learnt from a real master..the others is GM Yuli Romo and Soufian..understand the principles, other more intellectual arts is wingchun and russian systema..
Interesting style of fighting, are you going to be studying it Lloyd? It'd be interesting to see you do more. little interesting fact I just found out, the last Sikh warrior Nidar Singh Nihang (86), who has spent his life learning Sanatan Shastar Vidiya, lives in Wolverhampton. :)
Awesome guy! Thanks x
Jack Dempsey talked about the falling step (lifting your front leg ), in his book. He was a legendary boxer, known for “punching above his weight”
Loyd, i do not know which wing tsun you learned, but these snap punches, which are stopped to PREVENT damage ,you might inflict onto your training partner, are only used in training without punching coushions, otherwise you are also supposed to go through your opponent. ( this sentance has too many commas, i am very much aware of it. Thank you very much. )Have a nice day to all who read this.
More of this please
The amount of beige in the opening of this video is, frankly, quite glorious.
Edit: The Goodies reference at the end of the video is also glorious.
More shastravidya please! ^_^
There was a guy called Graham once in the local public gardens giving out free ecky-thump lessons
The real deal..most asian martial arts believe to stem from old india, with their adjustments to body, weapons and terrain..well done niko on intellect trumping over the plenty of martial artists..there is much you can learn from this fellow and his teacher to then bring up wingchun to this..principles are principles..then there are no rules, like you pointed out in your dance of lindyhop..something which many boxed in martial artists fail to understand from HEMA to kungfu..congrats !
Exact translation for shaatar Vidya, is knowledge of weapon. I'm proud you're interested in it.
I want more of this.
This style from what i see in this video (and i may be wrong) would work very well together with some stuff from cane fighting or even some of the late western martial arts that came out of Europe (me thinks Bartitsu and similar). In my opinion anyway
The way the weapon fighting was shown makes it look like it is focused on neck strikes. The offense having many efficient attacks; while the defense is keeping the chin tucked, and staying a small target. It seems good for knife fighting.
Is there a more defensive side to this style, or is it more "try to stay safe, and kill before you get killed"?
BTW: Overselling those punches! What a martial arts thing to do.
Shukijo hey thanks for taking interest, you pretty much got it in one. the idea in Shastar vidiya is to bait then defend and attack as close to simultaneously as possible. The form and strategy does change slightly when in a duelling format as you can afford to take you time a bit more. But the general idea is as you said, stay safe and kill.
As for over selling, I can only promise to that I'm not. Try it yourself it's not very hard, just relax the arm and focus on the shoulder blade rather than the fist or elbow as the driving force.
I'll send a video of me doing it so you can see and hear the difference a little better.
Check out the fab page facebook.com/shastarvidiya
Great vid Lindybeige. Being a Lancashire lad I do indeed know the ancient art of Ecky Thump. However the knowledge is only passed on to those with Northern Blood I'm sorry to say. It is deemed far too dangerous for Southern types. No offence old chap, it is genetic you see, as our knuckles are used to dragging on the floor. Funnily enough I was reminded of you earlier today. I was in town shopping for Pies and Coal as is want for a Lanky Lad, and in the corner of my eye I spotted a blur of Beige in the distance. Its harsh tones captured my attention and I stood quite amazed. The Biscuity figure reached down to the pavement and then returned upright, holding aloft a single lonely pink glove. He looked around in search of its rightful owner and then ever so gently placed it on one of the nearby railings, in the hope of its owner returning to rescue it later. Then he faded away into the crowd. I had indeed witnessed the rare sight of the Beige Bandit in action. Patron Saint of Lonely single gloves, kicked off Babies Shoes and spat out dummies. I really wish I had my camera. Peace from up North. Ken
The japanese thingy with the right angle grip is called a Tonfa btw.
When you said the bag of water thing I immediately thought of Wing Chun. Would love to see some compare and contrast stuff.
The Soviets spent a lot of time in India, and it seems to me this may be an ancestor to systema
This is actually what got me into HEMA. I found a youtube channel about it and ended up spiraling into HEMA that way.
similar concept to miyamoto musashi's style of kenjutsu, from my understanding the cuts in that are typically aimed more to land and do enough damage then go overkill with it, he also used the weight of the arm and sword to power one handed blows, allowing the sword to do alot of the work and really only creating enough energy to do fatal amounts of damage but not too much more, like no splitting people in half one handed. the short sword was then used to basically occupy the enemies blade long enough to allow for a kill shot, basically like having a shield however he could also strike with it.
pretty sure he made some comment about people overpowering strikes as well, something to the effect of why split the man in half when you can make less of an effort and achieve the same effect of dead enemy. he also wasnt the biggest fan of really long swords, and although katana can be a little hard to weild one handed properly he found ways to make it easier and more effective, obviously enough practice will build the strength however if you can make things easier its less tiring meaning you can fight for longer.
oh and i believe you are referring to tonfa, they are pretty sick, mostly for blocking and accentuating punches, however yeah they have some strikes using the long end and swinging them and shit, however, im pretty sure you could probably cause more damage with a punch if you hit someone in the right spot like the collar bone or face, when you punch with them it often has the effect of either A) making you punch properly(in okinawan hand to hand arts at least, youre supposed to try and basically punch through the opponent, thing along the lines of keep the elbow from locking straight and imagine punching with a stump armed or with your elbows). or B) it greatly accentuates the previous effect and puts all the energy on a really hard surface so you can hit hard spots of the body without hurting yourself and it concentrates the energy into a smaller contact point, plus they allow you to basically block strikes from a sword or other bladed weapons to a degree.
If y ou missed my reference to Coventry It was the Anniversary of the Bombing of the Coventry cathederal
I enjoyed your explanation I feel there is often a lack of distinction in martial arts between battlefield skirmishers and purely civilian arts.
Great video!
So, it's like a martial art based on the same physics which cause a flail to deliver more energy to a target, than a mace would? Also, the sinking/dropping bit is very much found in many iterations of Kung Fu. And the 'side-handled' baton is called a Tanfa. And, while I don't doubt they have popped up in many east Asian country's histories, their earliest references come from ancient China. I'm not calling you out on details! I just thought you might find it interesting, as you've mentioned them in a couple videos.
Of course, outside of hitting with more force, a flail could probably boast NONE of the other advantages this art offers. ;p
VERY interesting video!!!!
It would be interesting to know whether this technique used with Roman and other contemporary swords would be effective. Does it tell us something about how they actually used those weapons? The fact that a big swing that misses when in armour throws the body out of balance is interesting and would not go unnoticed by ancient peoples.
this punching method reminds me of 'thunder sound' from Xing Yi Quan
This form of thinking remind me alot of Jeet kune do...where it isnt about ridgid thinking, its about taking advantage of what you can do best in the situation your in to fight someone. like if your on a muddy area you dont thrrow sweeping kicks cause youll be on your ass...but also if you find that they are wearing chest protection you target the arms and face and if wearing a helmet you attack the limbs...not adhearing to a closed minded style its about using all the styles to your advantage and using what works..I like it..Im sure Bruce Lee woulda loved to study this also.
I actually learned this concept in Issinryu Karate it’s basically continuing the force through the opponent instead of stopping on the surface
for the master of Ek EE Thump you have to look for John Morris, ive also contacts for the ancient arts for EE Be Gum and if youre lucky, Ikley Bart Tat, but yould need a whippet for that one
This looks really interesting
A martial art designed for formation conflict against another formation isn't a good self defence martial art in the modern world. Who would have thunk it! Thank you arm chair warriors for explaining this to me.
That's really cool, thanks!
I remember seeing a documentary about Ecky-Thump made in the 60's, you should approach the makers of it.
Afaik Follow through and snapping are two common technics in most Martial Arts, at least in the ones I practiced.
Actually, the wing chun punch is also a relaxed way. Both use mass and momentum to power the strikes.
Thanks for the video. One little correction. Karate is not an umbrella term for Japanese martial arts. Karate is actually a family of martial arts from Okinawa. Gichin Funakoshi introduced it to Japan back about 1920. You might have been thinking of JiuJitsu, which is actually Japanese.
so is shastar vidya he probably doesnt do enough research i think.
that move is great for a sweep will keep that in mind if i ever face an indian (or same style fighter)
Lloyd! I'm APMing your videos. Go. Get. Them.
The principle of this system seems pretty solid; it appears to stress economy of force, movement and use of space.
Great video Lloyd ! learned lots as usual but I did want to know one more thing ... HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU JOIN THE TEA CLUB !!!
It'd be really cool if you take a few brazilian jiu jitsu classes and make a video about it. It'd be great to get your opinion on a fighting system that has been made extremely popular by modern MMA etc.
WOW, Lloyd has legs.
Last time I was this early, the war would be over by christmas!
Merliginary how many times have soldiers been told that I wonder
...it is a reference to The Great War AKA WW1... Only an murican would think it is about the civil war...
This is a reference to litterally every war taking longer than a year
The Swiss civil war in 1847 ended after 26 days , at 29. of November. I guess the men felt bad not being at their workplaces...
that elbow drop, but with a shield would be devastating
A few people already mentioned the "karate is not an umbrella term for Japanese martial arts" bit, but I didn't notice anyone mentioning the proper ones: Generally seems to be Budo (Martial Way) for modern martial arts (and/or when adding flim flam to the mental side) and Bujutsu (Martial Arts/Skills/Techniques), though the latter also occasionally includes military strategy as well.
Compare and contrast for example Kendo (modern fencing with limited application to real life sword fighting) and Kenjutsu (actual swordfighting), Judo (modern sport that's heavily formalized and stripped down from its origins, though still effective if used right) and Jujutsu (any number of old hand to hand fighting styles including punches, kicks, throws, locks, grappling, etc.) and so on.
Interesting to think how the drawing style of cut would work with a curvy tulwar... Definitely would cause some serious hurt.
Have the expert demonstrate it!! Lloyd, you're a great presenter, and your explanation as a newbie is valuable, but you should give equal time, after your explanation, to the instructor demonstrating and explaining it, so we can see how it's done. And give him a mic, too.
Was there ever a battle whip? I know gladiators used whips in the arena, but it seems like some would have used whips, especially farmers as they used improvised farming equipment.
If you learn Shastar Vidya, you can do stuff shown in Hollywood movies.
I studied wing chun with sifu garry mckensey he is a very good teacher and a stand up guy he is very kind and understanding but remember just because I had a very good teacher it doesn't mean that I am any good at wing chun thank you for the video
It's called chatka means quick kill .
very good video, but I think that the umbrella term for "martial arts" in japan is "jutsu", which would be something like "techniques", so: ken-jutsu (sword techniques), jiu-jutsu (I believe it's 'fists' techniques, but it might be a broader term), kyu-jutsu (bow techniques) and so on.
the sportive version usually replaces the "jutsu" with "do", which means "Way of", such arts keep the spirit, the philosophy, but present it in a less deadly manner, they became popular after WW2, because USA prohibited Japan from praticing it's militaristic arts so as to prevent the beligerant philosophy from WW2 from resurfacing, allowing them to make less deadly versions so as to keep their culture, but some of the "Do"s were older than that, like Ju-do. Also, Ken-do "already existed", but not as we know today, it was seen as the philosophical part of ken-jutsu, not as a sportive version of it.
Lindy! You might want to check out Georgian(country) martial arts("blackshielding"). You might like it ;)
Wow, Lindy, id you go to a martial arts class ressed like that ? hahah, thats brilliant !
When will you do a video on the ancient Scottish martial art of Hoots Toots Och Aye The Noo?
Lindybeige let the gentleman demonstrate his art a few times Lindy! :)