COLLEGE VS TRADE SCHOOL (What I Wish I Knew)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I go over what I think is overrated about college and what I think is underrated about trade school. I shed light on the discoveries I made after attending college and now working in the trades.
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I’ve been in HVAC since I was a kid and been in for 20 years full time. I couldn’t do anything else. You get to choose if you want more money or more freedom. As I am getting older. I like a little less money but not working so hard. Other professions don’t have those types of options.
So would you say HVac is a bit easier then plumbing and electrical ?
My bachelors is in IT. Funniest thing is that my local trade school has an IT program that costs $3500 and is one year. It also prepares you for the A+, Net+ AND Sec+. After you're done with that you can then start getting higher end certs to pump up your resume.
Here in Canada they also offer IT program for 1 year. I will not go to college I don't want be in debt.
A college degree opens more doors and higher math helps develope more crucial thinking skills. You wouldn't fully understand subneting and binary to decimal conversations without college. Also college improves your writing, verbal and various communication skills.
@@doanpham972A college degree is also significantly more expensive in both money and time. Plus, a lot of things in IT can be learned from TH-cam and Google.
"I didn't go to religion to make me comfortable; a glass of port will do that for me. If you want to be comfortable, I certainly do not recommend Christianity." -C.S. Lewis
I’m getting myself into trades. It’s sad how many young people this generation want to be you tubers, twitch, tik tok stars and want a quick rich scheme. Amazing video btw
It’s sad that kids want to make money expressing themselves? We live in an age where many people are making Hundreds of Thousands and even millions of dollars being themselves and will probably never have to work again. Now quitting a job to become a TH-camr or streamer is not a good idea until you actually start seeing it’s become lucrative for you but it’s not sad. It sound like you’re stuck in the old mindset that kids need to grow up to be workers.
@@showtiimetjay4206shut yo ah up lil jit
they are actually making more doing youtube than us bro
It really isn't sad
a little kid is making millions for playing with toys tf u talking about sad
I too went to college and now work as a union carpenter.. one thing I noticed when interviewing for jobs the jobs that required a degree asked a lot of dumb questions like “tell me why you want to work here “ .. the trade interviews went like this “do you have reliable transportation “?
That’s due to “professional” corporations seeing how automated of a worker you can be.
if you don't want to be an engineer, lawyer, nurse, or doctor college isn't worth it
And if u don’t wanna make money 😂
@@gamingwithmangoandrrr8304No. Even if you don’t make a literal half a million a year doesn’t mean you can’t live a comfortable life. There’s doctors out there with a huge load of debt, and there’s electricians and gas fitters that has zero debt and lives happy lifestyles. It isn’t always about how much money you make.
@@MistaGSpecialEducation yes but they pay their debts off after the first year. They get a better job then the uneducated
@@gamingwithmangoandrrr8304 By all means, go make money with your gender studies degree. 😂
@@multimeter2859 gender studies? Bro. I graduated from UC Berkeley with a Finance degree and make over 300K a year.
Very valuable information for me being a recent high school graduate thank you so much! They really don’t tell you much about the trades and the more of my own research I do the more I feel it’s the right path for me.
hey i know this is old comment but how was trade and i'm also a high schooler
#2 really resonated with me. i did 2 semesters at my local community college trying to get an engineering degree but they were having me take all these filler classes that were tanking my GPA & it just felt like my family’s money was being wasted. i stumbled across your video bc i’m seriously considering enrolling in a trade. maybe welding or carpentry🤷♂️
I really enjoyed this video. I’m in a very similar position as you, went the business route and have a tech consulting job lined up after I graduate. My dad went up through the trade route within HVAC and has always suggested me going that route if I don’t like my position. Thanks for making me confident that there is a possible path that is still available me!
I’m in the same position. What did u end up doing?
I am so happy that high school, vocational school and university is free in my country, so I do not have to bother with choosing university by the price.
University is free?
@@justhereforfun5725 Yes, all schools, except private, are free. Is it weird?
@@TheTimsxNo, it's not weird, it's just different. There are free colleges here too, or near free. Only thing is that those who went to paid university already have a few feet ahead of those who went to a free college when competing for the same position. I'm pretty sure it's the same where you live. Social classes and status are a worldwide thing. Still think your situation is so unique? 🤔🤷♂️
2 years into university in Australia studying Construction Project Management. Thinking of doing carpentry and just stumbled upon one of your reels. Thanks for sharing to help others, says a lot about your character. Many want you to make the same mistakes so that they feel better
You can easily do a Cert IV or Diploma.of Project Management with a training company for around 1k
Do your apprenticeship
Great point! Thank you for sharing. Just subscribed to your channel. Look forward to more great vid
Thank you for the advice!!!!
In my country all trade schools are free and yet all of us are paying to get a college degree. What a waste.
I really appreciate what you do man!
Reg college i cant stay interested and doubt id even use the degree in my job. Gonna start electrical in the fall so excited!!!
We have a shortage on draftsman who know BIM, just another option if you like building but not being outside.
If the federal government wouldn't guarantee student loans, you'd see the prices drop.
I am a big proponent of trade schools. It seems college is really only needed for careers that require a degree (e.g., educator, doctor, lawyer, etc.).
We just put up a video about Trade Colleges.
Ever since covid, I’ve been realizing more that college isn’t for me. I’ve been looking for alternatives that are particularly cheaper. I would like to work in the tech field. Haven’t made up my mind yet on which sub field, I’m choosing between IT or software development. I know software development can lead you into many cs fields. Not sure if I should apply for apprenticeships, trade school ,or associates degree. I’m wondering if we get paid doing an apprenticeship or we pay them? I’ve done a bit of research, I saw that there are degree apprenticeships. Which I think will be good route
I’m not sure if you will get payed for the apprenticeship. The only thing I can recommend is to do as much research as possible on all three options. Do you have a specific trade you are interested in?
There isn't much apprenticeship jobs in IT or Software development, theres lots of math you would need to know to do complicated concepts (like AI). You can probably do community college and take classes but they can only take you so far. Without a college degree you could get help desk jobs then moving up the ladder is quite difficult without a 4 year degeee. Tech pays fairly well, so a 4 year college degree isn't too bad.
I'm going to slightly disagree with you on your second point about college. It's not practical depending on the university that you go to. My major in undergrad was a mix of business and engineering. Therefore, I didn't have that many Gen Ed classes to take outside of maybe Freshman English and the one required PE class that every Drexel student has to take. I took Intro to Weight-training, and I still use what I learned to this day. All my required business and engineering classes were worth it for me.
Only in U.S here in France it's free to go College and Uni,, good luck
Bro what’s your Instagram I’d ?
it's not free. it'paid with taxes. decent workers have to pay taxes in order to finance spoiled kids desire to study useless bullshit.
@@kevinschafer6345 More educated population is not a bad thing 😂
@@matthewcudak8671 at least 95% of colleges education is never needed in life so what's the advantage, and why does education need an expensive college degree. can't you read books on your own?! especially the humanities are just a joke
@@kevinschafer6345 I disagree 95% of college is not needed in the real world that’s how you feel about
If I did it again I wouldn’t go to college to do anything hard you’ll make what an engineer makes with gender studies being a manager or officer. College teaches nothing of use. The price is so high and you’ll be making min wage for a few years just trying to get what industry needs to make the same a trade makes.
Couldn't agree more. Push kids to work with their hands, not their mouths.
yeah, if you teach them to become a plumber, he doesnt have to pay someone to do the job, he can do it himself and probably better if he has a knack for it.
Great video! I also have a question: Once you were done with college, how did you know that you needed to go to trade school?
Hey man I’m interested in going to trade school right out of high school, I have no idea what all the different trades are, which ones do you think are the best to learn about??
There is plumbing, electrical, HVAC, carpentry etc. I would do some research online on each trade and then try to decide. TH-cam is a good place to get an idea of the jobs each trade works on. I am just a general contractor so I have the opportunity to work on several different jobs. My personal favorite is carpentry . Hope this helps!
Man I feel you. I graduated a year and a half ago with a degree in Construction Management and I haven't liked what I've been doing so far sitting behind a desk. Should I join the electrical apprenticeship and start over? Help :(
If you want get things done by hands, yeah you should! Construction management sounds cool and the trades would love to have you.
@@ShellymanStudios thanks :) I have my application in
@@caydenthompson126 Good!!
@@Big_Thony thanks👍
Licensed electrician here. Best move you can make! I got into the trade at 17 and I'm 33 now. I've never missed a day of work! Even during the worst of the recession I never took a single layoff! Some guys will discourage you saying that there work isn't steady but that's not true. You may have to change companies or in rare instances move to another area, but if you're a go getter you will have no issues with job security. These last 16 years have been awesome and I'm learning to love this trade more and more as I go along. Keep it going!
Great advise bro
College is not for everyone. Trade Schools are for people who generally are not college material.
Your making it sound college > trades which isn’t true college has a wide number of degrees which are useless while trades every trade will get a good pay
@@truechaosmulala3831 Clearly, your train of thought verifies you are not Division I N.C.A.A. material. it will take you a lifetime to understand that a 4-year degree is far more valuable than "academic" books and a "good pay"
@@eLasVegas thing is most people in life only go to collage to get a good job with good pay not to get the "experience" of collage.
@@truechaosmulala3831 Keep trying to figure it out. You are way off. Clearly, your circle of "college" friends, and personal experience, do not include elite Division I schools or founding=your own multi-million dollar business, etc, etc. You think like a blue-collar worker. Good luck. End of thread.
@@eLasVegas so your saying only the 1% of collage is worth it makes sense.
Thank you for making this video. I’m at the point of my life now that I want a stable career. I’m 26 and I’m working in the health field. I was going to pursue more education but I decided not to anymore due to how expensive the program is. Now, I’m considering getting in the trade industry but have no idea how to get started. Should I go to trade school (which is pricey but still doesn’t cost as much as college) or apply for an apprenticeship/help job with no experience?
Apprenticeship...you don’t need experience for most of them
I would suggest applying for some apprenticeships to determine your initial pay. Then you can weigh out the cost of trade school vs working in the field. The specific trade you are interested in is going to dictate your decision
@@lanceramsey6799 would you say electricians make a solid living ?
Yes I would say they do well. Ideally you would get to the point where you could start your own electrical company
I’m making 80,000 as a junior software developer but people on tik-tok are saying they are off-shore welders making 250,000 a year, is that true?
Yup
@@alejandrocarrizales1691 after I made this comment I learned that they do that shit underwater and a lot of them die, and that once you reach a certain age they won’t let you go down there anymore. That’s a shit ton of money but I’ll just stick to my nerdy job sitting in front of my laptop at home in my PJs lol …
@@ilovepizza8263 I work with combo Welders onshore at petrochemical refineries that make 5k a week
@@ilovepizza8263 I also have a BSME and realized there is so much more money in trade work and much more opportunity for self employment. You're not the only one my friend. Get into trade work.
@@ilovepizza8263ya u gotta think about the labor aspect of it too. 100k labor job that actually requires u to put in hrs < 100k tech job to help companies solve problems from ur home
It's better to go to Trad school than college
I just finished high school. And im conflicted between joining a college or trade school. Any suggestion?
hey dude, have you made a decision yet?
Can I Apply from Europe?Does a trade school support visa?
ive been saying the same thing its very competitive. Yet fools are talking about free college. For example if theres 10 million people graduating with a degree in science. Your degree won’t hold any weight because theres so many people with the same degree. Maybe free 2year community college but university? hell no.
That's business 101, supply and demand. You pick a profession that you like and pays well. Europeans get free education across most countries. Free education empowers people to do more complicated jobs like the trades do. Look at poor 3rd world countries that don't even have basic education. There are trades that pay nothing also with back breaking work. Go work doing concrete for 30 years, by the time you're 50 years old, let me know how your body feels or works and still make it to 67 years old for retirement.
Im seriously considering trade school.
Hands on Trades is good to have but its not a mean to an end. Covid proved that for one and technology/robotics are evolving to make things more convenient.
Thanks for this video
So, basically if you go to college lets say do be a lawyer. You're competing with other people who want to be lawyers as well. Which means in the long run your basically just racing against your classmates. First one their wins, everyone else is in debt. Kinda a all or nothing. But, with taking a trade yes, your exposed to less majors but, if you already know what you want to be in life that shouldn't be a problem. You're almost guaranteed a job after trade school. And since no one likes old-fashion hard work. You'll actually be getting more opportunities. But, then again you have to look towards your future income once you get old.
Is there a trade school that is for ones who are interested in business? Such as banking or accounting ? If there is would you recommend it ? Thank you for this vid by the way very helpful 😊🙌🏼
I don’t think there is a trade school that covers those classes but a community college would!
Although there is a labour shortage and a greater one to happen because of demographic issues. But consider this, robotics are evidently disrupting construction and blue collar workers. There are 3-D printed houses and nearly full automation of tasks such as framing, dry wall, painting, surveying and operating excavator and skid steers. How do you see a role in construction/carpentry in the next 10-30 years?
I agree with you that the future holds robots constructing almost all new construction in a modular fashion that is delivered to the job site. However, there are millions of old homes that will need repaired/updated which I think robots will lack the ability to perform/it will be really expensive. Not to mention the small amount of people who will appreciate a handmade/unique home that have no interest in a mass produced house that everyone has.
@@lanceramsey6799 Well said, the automation won't completely and cannot entirely replace carpenters.
Yea that will go to shit if we rely on robots to build our homes they’ll be made out of plastic and wouldn’t last as long as if we had actual humans doing them
We still need humans to repair and program said robots. At least until the robots take over those functions
@@lanceramsey6799 Even with todays advancement in technology, we need other humans to do more human related jobs, i dont think jobs will completely dissapear because of machines, rather the priority will shift.
I went to trade school. My first job I made more then most of the college people.
Throw my working life I out did the college people.
Your dad built my house 11 years ago. Edwardsville,Il…..
What age did u get into trade
I was 23 and I’m 25 now
Good video
Did your parents pay for your college?
Yes they did
@@lanceramsey6799 did your parents go to college
OrangeGaming721 - my dad did not. He is a custom home builder and that is who I work for now. My mom went to community college for two years
@@lanceramsey6799 what made you drop out of a finance job
Me too
I’m a girl I will get myself into construction to learn to built a house
The College Vs Trade School debate is ridiculous and this video makes the same invalid premises.
To begin with, the Trades are skilled labor and there already is a target demographic and population for trades : High school graduates not going to colleges and universities as well as high school dropouts and GED . Thus lower middle to lower tier.
Essentially this is a captive population with only the standard jobs options. Thus they would benefit from the trades.
The idea that middle to Higher tier students should not go to college but go to trade school is simply not done not even with the weird propaganda from Mike Rowe and other.
Its a waste of intellectual talent to advise someone skilled in physics to be a plumber or someone who is great at calculus to be a carpenter. You dont need to be educated to be in the trades.
Its also unfair to the other students who arent going to college to be muscled out by normally college bound students for trade.
Let the college bound students go to college and let the other HS grads go to trade school.
Case closed.
Please. Learn your trade though. Too many people jumping in and “Starting their own business” and messing up and giving true Tradesmen a bad name.
I'm 37 and I wish I had a reset button for life.
im 27 no degree what can i do, currently unemployed.
mom couldn’t pay for my education, dad wasn’t around ofc
@@roibetsdaily you can go to trade school for many things such as a scrub tech, plumber, electrician, etc, you can also work a minimum wage job and go to a local community college for certain degrees your local community college might have
Yes but the trades is your income will be capped after your certification first few years as sn apprentice your income will jump if you keep jumping jobs every year.
After your certification your income is capped