Is NATO Ready for War?
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- Please join the CSIS Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program and CSIS’s Defense-Industrial Initiatives Group on Tuesday, June 11, 2024, at 1pm for a conversation on the launch of a joint report: Is NATO Ready for War? An Assessment of NATO’s Efforts to Strengthen Defense and Deterrence since the Madrid Summit. The conversation will be between Max Bergmann, Director of the CSIS Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program and Stuart Center, Dr. Cynthia Cook, Senior Fellow with the CSIS International Security Program and Director of the Defense-Industrial Initiatives Group, Dr. John R. Deni, Research Professor of Security Studies at the U.S. Army War College's Strategic Studies Institute, and Sean Monaghan, a Visiting Fellow with the CSIS Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program.
In 2022, NATO adopted a new strategy following Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. To implement it, allies committed to strengthen their deterrence and defense. Two years on, the alliance has made substantial progress on defense spending, forward defense, high-readiness forces, command and control, collective defense exercises, and integrating Finland and Sweden. All this means NATO is likely ready to “fight tonight.” However, to fight - and thereby deter - a protracted war, allies still need to spend more, boost industrial capacity, address critical capability gaps and bolster national resilience.
Allied leaders will gather in Washington in four weeks for NATO’s 75th anniversary summit. Ahead of that historic meeting, this paper takes stock of the progress allies have made to strengthen their deterrence and defense since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
This event is the second in a series in the lead up of the NATO Summit in Washington, happening in July of 2024. This event is online-only.
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NAT0 is not ready, absolutely. It should prepare.
It's ready. And improving.
So nato is ready 2 fight..... for 2 weeks Max😅😅
After that ??
We can use harsh language
Britain has 10 days ammunition
Germany 3 days 😅
It seems that conclusively the answer, despite being officially answered in the affirmative, is a resounding no.
This is worrisome. "Yes we are ready for a war but not a protracted war". Well surely that's the kind of war we should be prepared for.
Every one of these is made with the idea that other countries will be watching them, and therefore like it or not, will be considered.
That means that these videos must be considered In the deterrence strategy, and therefore has a "chill" effect on the honesty of the speakers.
Your reading in between the lines is necessary and I fully agree.
This is my opinion as an educated guess.
Has NATO ever fought a war?
Technically, Article 5 of NATO ("an attack on one is an attack on all") was invoked after 9/11 so that's why most NATO countries were in Afghanistan. This was the only time in history that Article 5 was invoked.
@SG-sp2wzI fail to remember serious ground wars fought by NATO in either of those places! Or do you really think you'll send a bunch of planes for few days to bomb Ru and they'll just throw their hands up? ... The fantasy world you guys live in! 😅
Mostly NATO is used as a collective band-aid so one country doesn't have to do all the heavy lifting. Kosovo for example was partitioned into NATO sectors where capable participants would secure areas [USA to the south in the more contested Pristina area]. Normally fighting a "war" isn't a good Idea for "NATO". That's done by the Americans and Brits and NATO fills in gaps so the stronger forces can refocus. Personally I would not want to fight a war using some kind of cobbled together NATO force(s)...I'd argue it would end in disaster. Basically everyone fights differently but the UK and USA fight very much in a similar way.
ISAF Afghanistan?
only third world countries
Yes it’s ready. Just negotiate for peace 🕊️
Putin: "War in Ukraine is like Call of Duty videogame .... until someone hits your head with the Russian made shovel."
He should know, he started it ;p.
@@lepetitroquet9410 in 2014?
@@alexeyeryomin2962 Yes. Well, the war itself. His interference in the ukrainian politic in 2013 was ultimately the trigger, but as the war itself is concerned, yes, 2014.
@@lepetitroquet9410 Its not caused by Putin but US govt. They have done this multiple times yet now they are failing and they are pissed. They wanted to inject their ppl there so they could easily control and manipulate. That drama and everything around is not for their "Democracy" and ppl of UA but for 11-13 trillion $ worth of minerals UA, well RU is now sitting on. For example, middle east and all those conflicts there were caused by US with their so "made" enemies to keep their military circus goin. What about over one million civilians dead in Iraq which, yes US army killed them. Whats about that ? And thats only one conflict. Now Iran, Syria, Libya and list goes on and on. Im not justifying this ongoing conflict in UA but i hate when ppl overlook those i mentioned above. NATO, EU and UA failed in diplomacy. Why we should keep paying those mofos when they are failing ? Govt forgot that they are serving us, the ppl not serving them selves for their interests and business etc. They failed so they should be replaced for someone who can do better and wont drag us into war. Because if they will, its gonna be ugly. And war should be last resort, as u can see in UA. They simply failed. They are talking about war, war and war, war again but not a single word about peace. Bad will happen quickly.
Ukrainian people got rid of Kremlin's puppet president Viktor Yanukovych when he refused the to join EU because Ruzzia told him not to.
22 February, 2014, Ukraine's parliament voted to remove him from his position.
Fact: Euromaiden
So many Ukrainians wanted EU that there were massive protests.
Then with their puppet gone back to Ruzzia, they sent military into Ukraine.
NATO did not start the war.
No. I saved u an hour.
Nobody is ready until it happens. Don't want to need to have to be. War is senseless and useless
@@fn0rd-f5o war is not senseless and useless. Two of my great grandparents are from Korea and war absolutely was useful in preventing 50 million S. Koreans from living under slave state of N. Korea. Also the war to end slavery in the US was hardly senseless or useless.
@@CantonBn my point is people shouldn't be doing that kind of crap to each other to begin with
@@fn0rd-f5o As long as there will be two people left alive one will use whatever means available to impose their will on the other. It's our nature.
@@CantonBn To be honest, the US civil war was about:
- preserving and expending slavery for the confederacy (as all the evidence demonstrate, their secession was all about slavery)
- preserving the union for the union
It only became a war to end slavery during the war.
Doesn't change the overall point though. In an imperfect world, wars can't always be avoided and protect/bring a necessary change for the better like the end of slavery or put and end to the holocaust.
The whole system sounds bloated, inefficient and hampered by bureaucracy and conflicts of interests. They had a headstart with Ukraine taking the brunt and they're still flailing.
lol thats not "the brunt" Russia is saving "the brunt" in reserve for the US...Ukraine got an SMO
@@AugustusOmega Funny how Muscovites believe their failure in Ukraine is because of holding back and not because of weakness.
that viewpoint is irresponsible.
@@05KARfailure in Ukraine? Explain this further.
@@i_know_u_are1029 The war is still ongoing, right? Moscow didn't won, right?
The answer is no.
NATO mental circus goes on...
ok Kremlin slave....
Without America? no
With America? yes
saved us an hour, thanks
Nato is practically the Europeans arm of the US military might. Without the US, the members will fight more with each other than any other country.
What NATO ally outside the US can take a week of combat losses as seen in Ukraine and stay up?
Poland would be one. I do think the Europeans are getting more serious. I would even say the US hasn't been serious enough either. Frankly why I think the Polish would stand up strong is because of their crazy rate of growth in their military compared to the rest of NATO.
Always take democracies time to wind up and it’s starting to wind up.
At the border with Russia, Poland and Finland would give Russia a run for their money.
There are a half dozen NATO countries that together with Ukraine could beat Russia in widening of conventional ware. EG the US or Germany, or France or Poland, And pretty much any two or three could beat them *conventionally*. But with NATO boots on the ground we would see use of Russian tactical nukes, and have to decide whether this is worth ending the planet over. So it is a moot point.
Fuck around and find out greetings from Finland.
I thought General Cavoli has answered that question already, directly, in January 2023, lol. And nothing has changed since then, except for the worst, but thank you for your valiant effort to justify your existence.
So NATO's budget is more than 20 times that of Russia and we still have gaps???? Nothing to say about this?? Just that you need even more money? What do you propose to cut, hospitals? Schools? Think tanks?
Budget doesn't equal capability. Most eu military spending is on overpriced hightech gadgets. Ammo? Not so much.
@@gumby2241 The money is inefficiently spent because there is no united Europe and no united European army. At present, politics would make that impossible.
However, we can make it less inefficient. In particular, we need more joint projects, rather than so many countries insisting on their militaries using equipment invented locally.
How well are they adapting to drone war?
I'd be very surprised if NATO militaries are adopting smaller and cheaper drones anywhere near as fast or on the scale as they could/should be. happy to be proven wrong though. watch it be dozens more overly expensive projects for too-big, too-ambitious drones - when clearly, simple and cheap FPVs have an insanely powerful effect in UA. just look at logs of vehicles/artillery being taken out and FPV makes up a very impressive proportion of succesful UA fires
@@TheDominionOfElites the US is the drone king. you heard about our China hellscape plan?
@@TheDominionOfElites NATO is still concerned about building conventional armies, Ukraine had to develop inexpensive drones out of necessity. NATO countries aren't at that point.
Thanks to all participants. I do wish you had discussed more on China's "indirect" involvement supporting Russia in Ukraine and therefore the need for increasing the level of sanctions on China as a result...telling them to stop or sanctions will be applied.
Oh yes, sanction the biggest manufacturer in the world, together with the biggest resource and energy supplier, and let us not forget, the biggest market, yes, that would surely work
Agree on the basis that we stop sending weapons to Ukraine.
There will not be any sanctions against China
You don't get it, increasing tariffs against China will backfire on the west. It would increase inflation and decrease economic activity, exactly what people don't want.
Guys ,Russian shell cost 1000 USD and they make 15000000 pcs a year EU shell cost 4000 USD and we are able make 300000 pcs a year at most ,extend it to all stuff .The batle force ready acount for 3 months of Ukraine loses and all this cannot be fixed tomorrow .
they are no the same ammo EU shells are better in almost everything, specially accuracy.
This is a wrong question. Question should be: Does the USA ready for war?
The conversation is mostly about conventional weapons. But nuclear calculation is different. It takes only 4 minutes for a Russian nuclear warhead to reach NYC from a Russian sub. For the US to reach Russia with its nukes it would take about 20 minites. This is why the US is so afraid to help Ukraine.
totally forget the USA has zero SSBNs
USA never intended to help Ukraine
Instead of talking about war, and your desire to its continuity so you can make millions in your weapon industry, you should talk about peace and end this madness.
Have you met people, or read a history book, or used your brain, like ever? Wishing things where how you want gets people killed, don't waste anyone's time with this crap
Talk with whom? About what? The madness will not end until Moscow is stopped, NATO can merely react and for that it should prepare for every scenario.
@@05KAR Talk with whom ? Hmm..Maybe Russia could be a partner for discussion, just try it...about what ? maybe about how to stop killing people ? try to think about that...
Room full of people that don't understand the reality of modern warfare.
The Elephant in the room question is; "Is NATO Ready for Nuclear War?
Nobody is ready for the end of humanity
Why would Russia waste time fighting 30 plus countries when they have one weapon to use
@@peterlaing6661 Because Russia along with the rest of the world would be wiped out.
@@peterlaing6661 because it will cease to exist in this case? And don't forget, nobody has tested this things for decades
Boo! Sorry you scare so very easily, Nancy.
Semper Fi
Nice disclaimer bro, ready to sign a peace deal yet?
NATO is absolutly ready from begining, now more and more better.
So while talking about the political landscape, are we going to talk about European populations tendency to support war, or replace its leadership. Because everywhere i look i see those political supporters of war are getting replaced.
While your job revolves around military, you are ignorant to the civilian population who really decide if war is worth their investment. I would argue the majority in Europe are just waiting for a viable leader to build their own countries as they go about their lives. But end up with weak war mongers with low IQs and all these political protections.
So defending or supporting a nation that was invaded is warmongering today... And you may forget about replacing the European leaders with creatures like Orban or Schroeder, it's not happening anywhere, not even in France.
So, most members of NATO are now spending 2% of GDP, the minimum amount of their contribution agreed upon, but never paid, even after President Trump publicly embarrassed them for their delinquency. I have no doubt that substantial arrears remain unpaid. Something tells me that NATO members in Europe have been freeloading their defence needs for too long. In my view, if they cannot collectively pay their dues, how can you expect them to co-ordinate a serious military campaign between 32 different countries speaking different languages? And then you have Ukraine. They say Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe, but the pole position in the World League has to be America. Nothing but warmongers. Good luck to the ordinary people whose lives will be wasted in this latest military escapade, WW3. Our prayers are with every one of you.
2% was a minimum goal for 2024 agreed upon in 2014
Very informative. Thanks. Unfortunately, it's very informative for the Ruzzians and China as well.
YES
What a waste of time. The lady and the guy named Sean are just academics. Zero knowledge on real war. Of course they should make some money by publishing theories😂
No one talking about Peace negotiations except Russia. And why would NATO be ready for war? Ukraine is not NATO. That's an instigative and aggressive alliance. NATO should fall apart !
6:00
Thanks 😀
Thank you 🙏
You guys are just talking as if everything would go just as planned
24:55 Your new member Finland, never did go to war against terrorism force structure. We always concenced only fighting Soviet Union/Russia in full scale war.
This whole topic is stupid, we would all be dead from Nukes
2% is enough for those that never reduced their army but for those that went to almost 0 need like 4% to catch up.
Ahh yes the quick war which were thoroughly prepared for…
It’s like they’ve never read a single history book.
One thing we learned about the Ukraine war is women manufacturing can't be held only in private hands. Women manufacturing and factories need to be built in secure locations in a different to produce shells. Missiles. In an expedited way. Ukraine war toward us. Engagements are not always short-term. For freedom loving people, we need to fight against authoritarianism in all forms. Thank you for your patience
Deni is excellent participant... went to look at his website, interesting.
16:30 😄These numbers are BS. These are the guys who told us Russia will run out of artillery & missiles within months.
Nato is not ready and people in the west need to wote better politicians in the country's fast!
What a bunch of delusional and self entitled people.
why nato start the war if nato didn't know if it was ready or not
The use of the term "superpower" to describe nations has been prevalent for 79 years since the advent of the Atomic Age, yet NATO seems to have forgotten this historical context? Instead of fixating on archaic instincts, we should focus our efforts towards finding legitimate ways to benefit our modern economy. As our economy is inherently competitive and requires both separate and shared efforts, it necessitates more thinking and analysis. We need to work together and think critically in order to improve our economic standing and advance our society as a whole.
Poland vs Russia had 20 wars, lands wars, other part of Europe armies are based on navy fleet, Fracne,Spain,GB,Greece,Italy,Denmark, Sweden, i am concerned about it.Shortage of artylery sheels show that.
Is it normal to show all of these things. Putin can look too!
NATO proved its incompetence through Ukraine war. Korea can beat all NATO in terms of conventional war.
🥺 gulp!
You are speaking out of your rear end with this one. I haven’t seen a troll or comment with this level of derp in a while.
Good thing they're allies? ???
Someone has to say the stupidest thing. Congratulations today it is you
@@dreb222 its true nato doesnt have two artillery shells left ukraine proves it
A lot of dreamers in this show a lot of high school high school boys
23:22 when you build military capabilities that are meant to win a decisive victory in war. Then don’t let your military fight in a decisive way you are going to have ammo shortages
one could also ask darpa what they thought about the situation....
Q - How are you going to achieve your purpose of splitting Russia into several countries, as stated by Zibi (not Mika) Brzezinski in 1997 ("The Grand Chessboard", it is in the www). That was back when a VERY US-friendly Yeltsin was in power. Any surprise why Putin and aligned oligarchs took Russia out of ruins ever since? WHAT IF in return Russia and China pledge to split the US (Louisiana to France, Florida to Spain, TX-CA-NM-AZ to Mexico)? How would that make us feel?
Nobody wants to split Russia, the US sent plenty of humanitarian and financial aid to prevent it, they even forced Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons and de facto accepted the land grab of Crimea. You should read or listen to the Russian government media and what they say about the US since decades.
I would feel great, why do you think the are so many Spanish speaking illegal aliens on the southern borders? One day they will be in the majority and vote to return central/South America block. The USA stole the Spanish speaking southern state from Mexico during the Mexican USA war. Time for them to go home.
i mean i think we are looking a little dumb, we developed all this advance weaponry, but it seems like at the end of the day who has more artillery shells seems really important. I guess the theory is that we will win the air war then we can bomb and missile instead of shell.
Empty talk discussing “mass media headlines”. Bla, bla, bla. No serious numbers, allocations, plans… bla, bla, bla. Skip it. 🙄
Why do keep expanding NATO?
As long as states do not have mandatory conscription, the game is lost. And you don't take into account the countries bordering Russia at all.
In the west, conscription means civil war, it ain't gonna happen in the US for sure.
That's a stupid question because what they do is in preparation for war.
how many humans will survive a nuclear or biological war? 1000 people, 500 people? and for how long?
Two, rishi sunak and one of the cardashians. That's the future of human kind
More than that. But civilization would be over. Homo sapiens would be back to the Middle Ages. Or worse...
This people talking shows the NATO is not ready and confident for what they saying people around the knows the truth and it's hard to fool the masses were watching
I know this is a political question but..... If a conflict breaks out and China sides with Russia how does NATO nations deal with that? Does Apple have a voice in not making trouble for them? Does decouple happen? If not how much kow-towing is allowed by NATO nations to China?
China wouldn't get involved. They may take the opportunity to make a go at Taiwan, but they depend on global trade more than anyone else, so it's not in their interest to fight literally all their best customers. They only care for Russia in order to play them against the US, they actually have a historical rivalry of their own and disputed territory as well. They aren't gonna bleed for the Russians.
I think most companies de-risking are laying the foundations for de-coupling to move their production elsewhere; like how Apple is moving to India, and I think Vietnam too.
@@Iwantalloftheinformationas the chief advisor to president Xi said in a private meeting, if today US goes to war with China, tomorrow US will no longer be a superpower. That person, by the way, correctly predicted current Ukraine situation and US political divide twenty years ago
Lmao when you're paid by word count... This could've been a 10 second TikTok clip.
NATO can not fight with against Russia, it's very weak and is not ready right now.
I humbly suggest to the good people at NATO Joint Regional Command that the location of the South HQ in Naples is less than ideal. What will you do if the Campi Flegrei, Mt. Vesuvius, or both go off in the future? Why not choose somewhere geologically safer such as Genoa?
You have complete tech dominance over the public domine, how is that level of communism supportive of development? when your political decision makers have invested interest in the historical players. Has Storm Shadow ceased production? i heard of single digit results they are that ineffective, i mean that company should be bankrupted based on lawsuits.
whoa whoa whoa.... war with Russia? NO guys, come on
roll play
No
What work NATO ..???
pls no ww3 i begg you global elites
Delusional
The more you hear russia threatening the world with nukes, the more NATO is getting ready ! 🤷🏻♂️ Please listen to russia a little bit more ! 😂😂😂
now seriously, start negotiating, you fools!
Poshol NAHUI Ivan!!!
@@o_______opanasovych wtf, I do not understand a word
Military industrial complex
Why was the USA so successful during the Cold War?
It implemented the Marshall Plan to economically strengthen its partners in Europe.
The USA was the largest economy and opened its market to the products of its allies.
The USA offered its allies a security umbrella with nuclear deterrence through NATO.
As a result, America managed to push back the influence of the Soviet Union on Europe and ultimately win the Cold War.
The alliance between Western Europe and the USA is proving difficult today.
For example, Germany follows a mercantilist economic model and is therefore dependent on cheap energy and large growth markets.
Russia and China can provide both of these for Western Europe like no other country.
The USA, on the other hand, is becoming increasingly less important as an economic partner.
And since the collapse of the Soviet Union, there is no serious military threat from Russia to Western Europe.
Nevertheless, tens of thousands of American soldiers are still stationed in hundreds of US military bases and US nuclear weapons are stationed on German soil.
If you look at the situation objectively from the US perspective, America is protecting Europe from the countries with which it has close trade relations.
Europe's core interest, however, is to further expand its economic relations with the USA's biggest competitors.
Don't be blinded by the politicians' rhetoric.
Feelings, shared history, values, culture and traditions play no role at all in whether alliances really work.
What matters is whether the interests coincide.
And it turns out that the interests of Europe and the USA can no longer be reconciled today and this partnership will soon end.
Sweden became neutral after losing the Great Northern War (1700-1721) to Russia. The war was initiated by Sweden, under the rule of King Charles XII, who intended to weaken Russia and expand Swedish influence in the region. As a result of the war, territories including Finland and the modern Baltic states, which were under Swedish control, became part of the Russian Empire under the Treaty of Nystad in 1721.
Since then, Sweden has largely maintained a policy of neutrality, respected by the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union, and modern Russia.
In recent times, Sweden has been governed by liberal parties, which some perceive as serving globalist interests rather than prioritizing the people’s will. A similar situation is observed in Finland.
Early 18th Century Population Estimates:
1. Russia: 13-15 million
2. Sweden (including Finland): 2-3 million
3. France: 19-21 million
4. German States (combined): 12-14 million
5. Poland-Lithuania (Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth): 6-8 million
6. Ottoman Empire: 24-32 million
These estimates provide a snapshot of the population sizes of these regions around the time of the Great Northern War (1700-1721).
In the next 100 years, Russia defeated all of these powers. Today, Russia has the capability to annihilate all of Europe at once. Only the USA is in the same league as Russia. However, the USA lacks the experience of fighting wars against stronger opponents or existential wars.
Russia has emerged from wars against stronger enemies, defeating all of them.
Ya'll high as a kite
the very definition of talking heads
Nepotism got this lady her job she can barely read
TH-cam don't show me this nonsense please! Lairs 😂
It's an algorithm responding to your input. This comment gets you more like videos, and my comment gets you even more. You are welcome
All of this talking makes nth everybody dead if putin fails
Additionally you become a vital link between new scientists building manufacturing sites for new weapons and the old defence contacts who have streamlined the entire process to utter prefection of cost cutting measures.
Why do they keep saying ready for war? Do they not know if nato goes to war nukes will fly? So what's the point of having army. This won't be like ww2. So why do they think it's going to be a Victoris campaign.
You have been lied to your whole life…….
We Europeans must remain united and forget such discussions where people have no knowledge of Europe !
Do you know that most of the population of Russia is in Europe?
@@GalAxy-u9s Not in our country !
Interesting presentation. Based on this CSIS report It would be a HIGH stakes gamble to risk a war with Russia. There is also a fact a few NATO nations have stated they do not want to go to Russia. NATO's article 5. will be a first casualty of a war with Russia. I doubt if for example Poland make a mess and trigger a war, few will come to their rescue. If there will be a full nuclear war, the casualties would be in the billions. NATO must mull starting negotiating and end of this conflict. In my opinion too many have died already. It will take decades to figure out how many. The number of missing Ukrainian soldiers are in estimate 25 times higher than the KIA numbers. Peace please!
You are a russian bot. Ukraine has the best president in history and is winning on every front.
Doesn't take 1hour to say, they stand no chance in any battle.
Morale will be broken, before they start fighting. They will be dismantled & fragged by their own troops.
You’re right, it doesn’t take an hour to say THAT. But that’s not what was said here. In reality, Russia does stand a quivering chance against the U.S.A. Let alone backed by the other 31 NATO countries and Putin knows this. That’s why he relies on nuclear blackmail and saber rattling on a daily basis.
NATO needs to stop playing defense against Russia to save humanity...
How do people in NATO nations feel about being on the receiving end of Russian weapons?
The people of NATO are all 100% for waaaaarrrrrrrrr
Thanks for a reminder why we need to prepare.
Sounds like Communism with centralized power. YOU MUST BUY THIS TANK, AND THIS AIRCRAFT... Sweden is a success story of defence contractor rivalry i would argue, infact that is the strength of European countries is you can build these competing capabilities. From cars, to aircraft, is that sharing on information, know how and building those capabilities in a competitive way inwhich you actually complete. Little too much participation trophy's and no one should be a loser coming through at the high rank i would argue, all ready more delaying on the F16, while the SU57 has what 2 on ground 0 0 2 because everyone cares so much about the god damn states in the west. Oh but we killed this many, but you didn't hold the hill? what did we lose? you don't know ummm... NADE OUT
Not against me
Going to source that oil from? 😂
the USA we have more then anywhere in the world...we just want to source it elsewhere not to ruin our country but theirs...you watch how fast oil will come from the usa if a war happens...
@@Flyrodder68 actually we already are producing more oil than anybody else on earth, and meeting our own needs with more to export. This is a recent change over the last few years. But even so we are still *concerned* about oil because it is in our interests to ensure our allies and economic partners across the globe can access oil too. We produce a ton, but we can't feed Europe on our own.
@@Flyrodder68 I'll be a bit of conspiracy, for a moment. Its like we're preserving our resources for a future rainy day...🤡
NATO 1 Billion people, with an overwhelming military strength to match.....Europe, except North America is Geographically a third the size of the Russian Federation. Russia is geographically the largest Nation on the planet, its population is 147 million with a limited military population. The military strength is very formidable particular with their thermonuclear deterrence capability. In fact, if it were not for the fact that Russia has a formidible Nuclear Triad capability NATO would have attempted to invade Russia two years ago. But, NO, NATO has been timid and shit scared to declare war on Russia....For the obvious reason that they have 6,000 nuclear WARHEADS. Enough said. Secondly, the Ukrainian War will not be a VICTORY for Ukraine....IMPOSSIBLE!! NO NATION or NATIONS will ever have a hope in hell to ever defeat the Russians in the Russian Steppes....NEVER!!! It is the lessons from Vietnam...the econometric matrix used by Pentagon whereby they had considered the US military victory was based on the body count....well over a million Vietnamese killed...and yet, the Americans and their ANZAC Allies STILL LOST the War....Like Vietnam, the Donbass and Crimea and the East of Ukraine are peopled by Russian speakers and culturally RUSSIAN PEOPLE. The human factor has been IGNORED entirely by the military and Politically hardwired Propagandists and like Vietname, Afghanistan, Iraq and all the US military loses in recent decades....IT IS ALL ABOUT THE PEOPLE!!!! You can not defeat the PEOPLE who LIVE in these areas of conflict. They live there before the war, during the war and long after the end of the War....The Local Donbass and Crimean people are RUSSIANS!!!! Go figure!!! You will either admit defeat or prepare for a thermonuclear War...!!!
Well, let’s just see what happens. 😉
Bla bla bla good that you've mentioned Afghanistan but you forgot to add Chechnya which also defeated you.
So baldy, you go somewhere, and you rent this huge space and you get every small electrician you can with industrial expertise, you look for control experts and you bring these people into your warehouse and you tell them what you have inmind.
Its literally about going to the right people, if you want to build a production line, you need control gear, what your producing may require science, foam for example... and lastly you need engineers to design it and labourers to build it. Anyone can do it, its not hard, but the capital investment is huge and the defence contracts are held by hugely capable in invasive global organization with military level capabilities. Yeah like they are going to let drones destory their companies sales ahahhaha
CSIS future/ IS NATO READY FOR PEACE?
NATO is at peace.
@@05KAR I hear something similar also from all military alliance people in the world.
The sound of itself being good and righteous. They all are at peace themselves and are made to defend not attack. They all defend. It is also always the other who attacks. In the meed time ordinary not military people are of not being at peace.
@@aljosa0 No, seriously, NATO is not at war and that's a fact.
@@05KARok I don't interfere in what others think about the facts which may or not be true. That is their thing not on me to change. They observe here the question is it ready for war on which I say that after being ready for war will come to the question is it ready for peace just as logical outcome of war after which always comes to peace.
@@aljosa0 NATO exists only to upheld the peace. The question is pointless because that peace exists and the real question here is if NATO is able to keep it that way.
So strong, they need 30 countries to face Russia 😂😂😂😂
thats funny considering the fact that Russia would not have a Navy by Friday if we were to have a conflict
@@Flyrodder68 in your wet dreams you're f...king nazi moron why don't you join your ukranazi they need dumb cannon fodder like you Russians are f....king your nato filth beyond recognition as we type here if the entire Russia is mobilized, you're f....king done
A juvenile emphasis.
One poor and corrupted country is holding you for three years, so strong.
Meow 😸
Whos going to have the more advanced military equipment after this conflict? What ever you replace your stocks with, will not stand up to what ever next generation weapons russian factories start producing in peacetime. I think what people don't grasp is the blackhawk helicopter had double the lifting capacity of the apache gunship, now if you have played COD you know how effective helicopter support is... Do you understand the old era NATO thinking involved here, where they put their entire investment into support helicopters? while operating nuclear armed bombers 24/7
NATO hasn't been investing the desired amount... How you think matters, you need a diverse ability to think from different perspectives to understand the full picture. Something we dont really grasp when we look out into space.
What next generation weapons? T-14 or SU-57? Both failed prototypes... Ukraine is also using mostly the soviet weapons and those few provided by the west are far from next generation. This war is not as much about the new technology as it's about a number of artillery shells fired and drones, often civilian drones.
@@05KAR Russia hasn't been in a conflict for a number of years, yes the Armada tank and Felon are prototypes, but apart from the limited air operations in Syria there is no real test bed for the effectiveness of stealth.
Can't tell me there are F22 pilots that would love to fly over Ukraine just to see if they get pinged and launched on.
But i wasn't talking about prewar prototypes.
Russian will have an array of missile, both foreign and domestic and they will know what works and what doesn't.
You call this a battle of artillery, i call it one of Ukrainian cowardice who had 5-1 10-1 odds in manpower and never pushed the advantage.
But thats not the plan, plan is money, and you get money per hour, so the longer the war goes on the more enriched players get.
Too put it simple, the goal in Ukraine was never to win, it was to move Afghanistan to Ukraine so contactors don't lose their revenue streams and Joe Biden's historical presidential account is him running out of Afghanistan.
@@05KAR This isn't a chess game, where with your cheat move you can control the game and its just a matter of pressure so they make the moves you want them too.
You have no control over the Russians and what they will do, they are more capable then you can comprehend and your leadership is a pathetic joke while your entire focus is on worthless numbers of a screen from your pacman days.
It is what it is, i speculate China has more then enough influence within Europe that Europe would claim Neutrality. I mean they have been leeching of the US for decades, buying their loyality.
@@Unknown-gi1uj Aha, so the USA invaded Ukraine to earn money... or do you mean that these evil contractors bribed corrupted Putin and paid him for invading Ukraine?
Your numbers are made up and you insult the people defending their country against a nuclear power that was supposed to be worlds second best army.
The point is Americans have these F-22 or F-35 and plenty more while Moscow has prototypes and propaganda.
@@Unknown-gi1uj Aha, so these evil contractors bribed corrupted Putin and paid him for invading Ukraine?
Your numbers are made up and you insult the people defending their country against the supposed to be world's second best army.
The point is Americans have these F-22 or F-35 and plenty more while Moscow has prototypes and propaganda.
Yeah nah, your talking about giving money to the rich, who already have contracts.
Instead of EXPANDING your capabilities to produce.
Ultimately why the EU is a pathetic joke of open border migration.
They were in Afghanistan
@@mylessalmon2569 Yes Afghanistan, the most military competent military in the world, ranked currently as #1 having an undefeated record against all global super powers.
Yeah maybe not rely on experts in defeat as to a road for victory.
@@mylessalmon2569 Lets forget the fact they were lead into the war by the turncoats of the CIA and their traitorous informants and what ever culture that was breeding. You had a political agenda of denouncing their god while empowering their woman when where not just entrenched in their culture from birth, but is genetically locked within a narrow aspect of existences. I mean the level of delusion by strategists as to the mission, its really without the British, the US Military have no head, like the head of the snake is non existent. Its like the US military collages are missing entire officer schools of thought.
@@Unknown-gi1uj Maybe not that competent, but the natives know the county and not only blend in with civilians, they terrorize them. I agree no foreign armies have been able to conquer them. The USSR was doing well until the US sent them javelins.
Europe is securing its borders better than the US is.
Are you listening to yourself.
Russia has this problem with NAZI's Nationals Socialists.
You want to keep Ukraine as a NATO Socialists state, that runs on your funding.
We see this in the United Nations, with places like Gaza, Yemen and Lebanon.
Gaza say its population quadruple in a couple of years. While globally 10,000 people die of starvation.
The problem IS THE AID!
Because you give the man a fish, rather then teaching the man how to fish. Because you have invested interests in the fishing industry.
In simulations as Russia, you don't need to expand, you have the largest economy, you just produce weapons. You produce so many weapons and manpower that you just walk over the entire map game after game. So this idea you expand into the Baltics, and link up with Kaliningrad is fine, but there is no reason to expand or start said war because the US, UK and Russia have been allies in WW1 and WW2... and haven't engaged in direct conflict like since. Plus, you only expand in war simulations is to stop you neighbours being a threat, because everyone builds up military capabilities in their grid squares to the point you can't move without excessive investment into explosives.
Nah see when you consider hybrid warfare, like what are you talking about? Fantasy land?
NATO is more prepared for a protracted war, that the entire concept of a defensive alliance, that you can defend from the aggressor for a protracted time and we see that in Ukraine that isn't even part of NATO, which is to be expected with you have expansionists like the French the UK, the Dutch, all who were at one stage expansionist empires.
So are you refusing to accept that NATO is a party to the war in Europe? your just using all your signal intelligence investment for what?
I mean your doing what anonymous did in 2015 against your little uncontrollable terrorist group.
No mention of train logistics, and you failed to address the underlying issue with defence manufacturing and that is intellectual property, so are best you keep them operating 24/7 but with NATO density and expansionist ideals within the capitalists constraints i would have expect NATO defence industry to have downsized decades ago and run 24/7 operation leaving no surge capability. But in this pretext, that was the first focus of the Russian war effort and you see that in their failed offensive. They went to capture Kyiv without ammo, and now you look at Russian industry and even the economy because the defence sector has restarted all these old soviet era manufacturing sites that is causing the economy to bloom.
The American notion of changing the Russian economy to a capitalist one was about the destruction of defence industry. The soviets could have switched and kept these plants operating but they didnt.