If CrossFit Where To Start Over - What Is One Thing They Could Do Better?
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Lifting is cool. Running is cool. CrossFit is cool. Walking is cool. Hiking is cool. It’s all good. Anything that gets you off the couch is a good thing.
Amen
What about basketball?
Anything that puts u in the hospital for not using ur body right is not cool
@@fish-chips980and when doing these things you are using ur body right your making yourself strong and less prone to injury when done carefully you are making your body fit to make ur mind fit and overall also increasing your testosterone and reducing stress levels
But I think you look good with that 400 lbs fortnite player look 😂
Staying in the couch is cool too. Breathing and resting heart rate burns calories too you know
There’s a thing called scaling. Your ego gets in the way of progress.
People have egos. Coaches need to draft their exercises in the way that suitable for their groups. Understandable that Athletes have injuries on the pitch. But injuries in the gym is due to stupid coaching and programming. Stop blaming the athletes.
Yes. The trainer also helps.
@@nguyenxuanphu_peter6.12 if people would take responsibility for themselves, it wouldnt be an issue. That might involve get a personal coach or go to a different gym if you're a beginner, but blaming the coach for people aiming above their capacity doesn't give people the opportunity to grow at their own speed.
Yep ego is a dirty word……
When crossfit began, form and technique were a huge deal. Completing the reps correctly was a huge deal. I remember literally being told to do the movement correctly and finish the reps no matter how long it took me. Things changed when anyone and everyone could become a crossfit instructor by taking a test on a computer.
Mobility and flexibility is just as important as muscle mass and strength if not more so
You train yourself and prepare yourself for those types of movements
You start easy then move up to those movements once you get better and more flexible
“Three to six months to learn a movement.” It’s been years and my snatch still sucks 😂
All exercises have skill limitations, skill and technique is one of the most important things worth testing. Ring muscle ups, proper running form, olympic movements, lifting a sandbag from the ground, hand stand pushups. I think one of the things we miss is actually testing people's ability to learn movements. What I mean is if you asked people to compete in shotput if no one had ever done it or knew how to do it, then it would just be power, coordination, and your ability to quickly learn a movement pattern, but if one of them threw shot in high school it is a huge advantage. If someone rowed in college that's a huge advantage, if they did olympic lifting its an advantage, if they got proper coaching on running form it's an advantage, but when you put enough things in those advantages in one even don't mean a lot because the variety is so high.
He's got a point. Still, the high skill movements are fun, too. That keeps me motivated.
Agreed. After a few years of training, it feels like a grind. The new movements and skill acquisition is the only thing that keeps us going. Glassman (and CF HQ) has addressed this Q. For eg. focus on strict movts more than the Kip.
I think it's less the high skill movements and more the constant man on man butt sex. I had a guy try to get me to do CrossFit, he was telling me all about it for about fifteen minutes. About ten years ago I walked into a restroom at a quick trip and two dudes were banging in the bathroom. After the fifteen minutes of having CrossFit explained to me, seeing two men have sex is now the second gayest thing I've ever seen
The high skill movements are part of what makes me enjoy it. It's things I've never done before, and I've always got something else to work on. People are over training because they are driven to do more and do better. Runners overtrain all the time, because they know if they run more, they will perform better. Ultimately, it is about learning your boundaries, and not making the same mistakes while training.
Also, it is more fun because you can develop skills. There is always a progression.
Agree to a point. Volume is the biggest killer especially if you're getting into the sport. I remember going to my first CrossFit gym, one of the workouts was 150 wall balls for time...no intermediate numbers or movements...thats exactly how you injure backs and knees!
Damn bro them ab implants
If you're not joking, wtf is wrong with you
😂
And chest implants
🤣
You just came full circle to the conclusion of what all the old-skool gym guys in the 80s and 90s knew long before CrossFit was ever concocted. Teach a Millennial, save a life . 🦖
So basically, do weightlifting circuits 😂😂😂😂😂 stuff that's been around since the 80s
Exactly and I see what he’s saying however the lifts aren’t bad they’re good for you and great to learn. The issue is more that people go into it for the look and not the health benefits. Which is actually how it started…. Cross training to get the benefits of several styles in order to be more functionally prepared. A lot of the lifts have to be learned because people generally aren’t flexible or healthy.
The high skilled movements make CrossFit so elite… if you find the right gym who’ll check your ego and is greats at regression/coaching then you’ll be Ight if you’re willing to learn and constantly improve
He didn’t put ego aside in front of step into a gym
Been practicing CrossFit for almost a decade but the allure for isn’t so much the workouts but the high skill movements - which introduced me to calisthenics and gymnastics, that I’ve been doing for the last year (still keeping up with CrossFit for maintenance tho) which I would never do in a WOD 😂
Aggressive cardio had me dying 💀
I agree. Make it less high skill and more traditional strength and endurance training
Agreed. This is also on a gym to gym basis. You train how your coaches train you. If they aren’t holding you accountable for your training then you need to exit that gym and find another. All these crazy lifts can be scaled, so the framework is there.
All you need to get in shape is
Deadlift
Squat
Bench
Barbell Row
Military Press
Pull ups/Push ups. Progressive overload with each movement. Simple
Throw out military press. It primarily targets the anterior delt, swap it out for an incline press and a lateral raise.
You forgot the dip - the squat of the upper body.
@@billowspillow correct as long as we agree that the military press is inferior to incline press or dip
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I love the basics of CrossFit and agree there are movements that are a waste of time for the everyday athlete. I'll NEVER be able to do some of those complex movements
Completely agree. The idea that a random guy/girl walks into a CF box, and before they can lift, they have to improve mobility to be able to do the highly technical lifts. That's about 6 months of paying money and not getting the benefits of just doing deadlifts and squats and bench press.
If your box has plastic bars for your members to practice, you're delaying their progress. Squats are functional. Deadlifts are functional. But going into a squat and lifting a bar over your head simultaneously is insane. I cannot fathom when a random person would be utilizing that sort of technique.
The part that makes it so fun is the high skill movements 💀
I agree, If CrossFit would’ve kept it just squatting, pressing and deadlifting for the lifting movements the sport would be more safe and popular. It’s the reason CrossFit is on a decline and Hyrox is ascending.
He's 💯% correct
If your goal is to simply look good, that is correct.
If your goal is: making you the fittest, healthiest person you can be so you can thrive instead of just get by, then Crossfit is perfect. (Bold is actual stated purpose of Crossfit on their website.)
The problem is that people dont have patience to go slow step by step. They ant to start like a pro, dont want to do without weights, to rest or respect the process.
Intriguing to say the least
Thank you 😊
I agree with this guy … and I don’t even do CrossFit
Agreed 100% CrossFit works great but it sucks in its current form!
Gotta say - he is right
Yeah but I’m not worried about looks
I want to be able to do the most with my body weight and have full control
The biggest hypocrisy in CrossFit is saying functional fitness and doing hand stand anything especially handstand stair walking
I agree a little bit with him. I think it's the competitive aspect of CrossFit which is good, but messes it up.
The good part is that it feels so natural to me, like training in nature, becuz Im not exactly buying that a machine is directly responsible for health gains the picture looks so narrow to be followed..
Perfect answer
no thanks I'm good. I'll stick with my training of handstand pushups😂
High skilled movements, or low skilled coaches?
Wait a minute....all those people that said "olympic lifts for speed is dangerous" were correct?🤯
Maybe do actual pullups?
It isn’t all about looking good. High skill movements train the neurological components of fitness far more than low skill. Coordination, agility, balance, and accuracy are just as important as endurance, stamina, strength, and flexibility. Also, without neurological development, you can’t maximize power and speed.
Doesn’t matter. It doesn’t get trained well because crossfitters do them in a bullshit manner, as fast as possible.
Just like the kipping pull up. Do you think it actually helps in anything? No. Apart from many ninja warrior stuff. People just do it because that way they can do more “pull ups” in less time
@@Anonymous-jf2gy “It doesn’t get trained well because CrossFitters do them in a bullshit manner, as fast as possible.” Tell me you don’t know enough about CrossFit without telling me… CrossFit’s charter has ALWAYS been “mechanics, consistency, THEN intensity” so no, we don’t always do things “as fast as possible” nor any other “bullshit manner.”
And yes, the kipping pull-up increases power output, which in turn increases fitness. Should we never perform strict pull-ups? Of course not, we do them often, but kipping pull-ups are useful and can be included as part of an effective training program. If you think otherwise, I suggest you watch a video of ANY high-level gymnast performing dynamic movements on bars, rings, vault, or pommel horse, and tell me they’re wasting their time.
Limiting training to ONLY simple movements that don’t take much neurological engagement will obviously limit the fitness you can produce. If that’s what you like, fine, but don’t call it CrossFit and certainly don’t claim it makes you the fittest, most well-rounded athlete.
He’s saying that to the regular person having them do basic compound lifts combined with the calisthenics or gymnastics movements is a better way until people get a base of strength and fitness to move into onlympic lifts. The Olympic lifts is what fucks people over.
Pretty sure if I ever did cross-fit I'd be injured in no time.
If you gonna lift heavy and practice skill moves like handstands or muscle ups which are hard on the joints, you should take your time, take more rest than you think you need, and spend a bunch of time strengthening the joints and ligaments required for those exercises.
Why in cross-fit they don't only lift insane weights, but also time that shit and combine it with cardio is beyond me. I imagine gyms who promote that will lost customers fast - Maybe its to keep the cross-fit population low and therefore exclusive?
If all I wanna do is get exhausted yet ripped the same effect could be achieved with running, squats, pull-ups and push-ups.
You do that long enough at high intensity you'll end up vomiting which I understand is the ultimate goal for a cross-fit enthusiast.
This guy's got the right idea.
Tell me you know nothing about CrossFit without telling me you know nothing about CrossFit. 😂
@@mb5970 Oh I do know it. Don’t worry. 🤡
whut?
@@mb5970 put down your phone.
I thought it was the nearly non-existent training to become a cross fit certified instructor or facility
Actually taking 6 months to learn something and accomplishing it, it's a huge achievement for someone and showing that if you stick to something you can achieve it.
Dude seriously? You need attention.
Only downside is it makes the midsection look really thick.
It's called being athletic. If I wanted to be the standard I would go to a basic gym
Lol your demo of “snatches” is a power clean homie
Was looking for this comment 🤝
Bingo the most honest advice you’ll ever here. CrossFit athletes are incredible athletes however the best way to see results in the gym is by pure strength Training and cardio. Learn those movements on your rest days or something
Nah those are Calisthenic. The only reason CrossFit sucks is because they sacrifice quality for quantity. That is why they get injured.
But they don’t really. You could argue that kipping is not a good movement. But there are scales, and you evolve. You just have some boxes that focus on weight achievements rather than skills. Those are not good boxes.
Best thing for crossfit is to cancel and stop crossfit.
So he is just talking about general fitness but with a stopwatch next to it
This is called German body composition training.
Look at guys chest . If that not a steroid chest I don’t know what is . BANG ON IT
now i want newbie gains
And this is why Hyrox is so popular. 🤷♂️
Fitness and training is a marathon, not a race. And, to say you don't see results while learning the movements, is inaccurate. You do see results; your skills to perform those movements improves. It was said before, not everyone trains for looks.
Facts
Sounds like body building 🤔
Those high skill movements are what makes it CrossFit and the people that are doing it clearly aren’t doing it to look good, if they wanted to look good they would choose another sport.
The form
Olympic lifts are still compound movements… so
So true
I agree
The moment someone says "if you change _____ about your crossfit workouts, you will LOOK better." You've lost the plot entirely.
High skill movements increase balance, coordination, your ability to move your body in space. The point is not about looking better, it's a byproduct. Also, injury rates are lower than running or cheerleading....I don't think we would claim those things are unhealthy.
The “AMRAP” ego and culture thing that cross fit promotes so they are different and cooler is ridiculous.
I’ve never met someone who has done CrossFit and hasn’t had some major joint injury. Source: coming from someone who used to manage a large corporate gun and did CrossFit as teen with a messed up shoulder 😊
Yea handstand oushups aren’t easy for anyone over 225
But it's possible
Absolutely true. That was one of the reasons I quit CrossFit and startet Hyrox.
So is he saying they oly lifters should forget about it, cause they do snatches and clean and jerks
Power lifters have to learn the movements for months before they put weight on the bar. What is wrong with enjoying the process of learning something just to keep moving even if it takes awhile?
Months is definitely an exaggeration with just the bar
I would say CrossFitters should stop acting like invented circuit training.
i loved cros fit then i f my back know all i do is kick boxin
I was always interested in the CrossFit project, the idea of focusing on general fitness as a sport, lots of functional training, all just fantastic ideas. One thought tho, have you guys ever considered just not being gay as fuck about everything? Like, still workout hard, all the functional stuff, just take out all the parts where the guys sit around and pinky each others buttholes. I for one would love to do CrossFit, but all the constant gay sex and the musical theater watch parties and whatnot just seem like such a pain.
So it's not crossfit it's your ego & pushing your limits further than what you can take. Not everyone is this obsessed or want to be a bodybuilder or compete. Some people just want to strenthen their body, be active, be flexible. The group setting help motivate lots of people, more than the isolation of the gym. That's why I'm trying cross fit, at the same time i know my limits, i won't push myself to injury & i don't expect major results other than being active, lighter, lose some weight that's it.
Even if someone wants to compete & have major muscle gains, you can do that while being carful & logical in your expectations to not injure yourself. It helps having good coaches that knows what they are doing.
There is so much wrong in this dudes statement , it’s actually ridiculous . First of all , you scale your workout . You don’t go hard and ego lift in any type of sports ! Also , what is wrong with learning new movements and skills . It takes time and patience .
The fact that the only thing that matters to you is looks shows that you did CrossFit to look good not to learn skills, most of us who do calisthenics do so not to look good but to learn the skills and do those movements, so I mean maybe people do CrossFit for the skills and not for the looks and you were one of the minority who did it for looks ,a sport without any doubt will involve skills and considering it as some means to looks good is another characteristic of bodybuilders therefore bodybuilding is not a sport
100%
You are supposed to practice the movements . CrossFit is basically a sport , you will not learn movements in a wod. You have to be training for it. If u can not complete a movement safe , then you would scale to still get a great workout and build strength. It sounds like he didn’t not have a good gym and coaching.
Exactly, by his logic sports like basketball should get rid of three pointers and lower the rim so people can play the sport without having to learn proper technique and fundamentals before they can actually start to play
Not sure if you know but he's a world level athlete ,
What he's saying is just basic common sense
I like everything in CrossFit except the people doing CrossFit
The fact he is talking about people looking so much better shows he isn’t really aligned with CrossFit. Do functional bodybuilding and gpp they have their place alongside and within any good crossfit program. Where I am from there are a million and 1 of these types of gyms but a lot of people get bored with the repetitive nature and lack of skill progression and then end up trying CrossFit
The bad thing about CrossFit is crossfitters
Are you talking about functional training or bodybuilding? 🤷🏽♂️
It’s not the exercises it’s the people doing it
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People do BlueCrossfit so the can tell other people they're into BlueCrossfit...
Hyrox is the answer
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CrossFit wasn't just based on looks...the skill is part of fitness, he should go to a Level I seminar
This 🐈 can’t be serious…
The problem with CrossFit is they do zero advertising. Zero. The affiliates get choked out bc too much negative press has muddied the water.
CrossFit should have chased down NCAA and Olympic Games. That’s where they screwed up. The CF Games is dying, and the NCAA’s need another revenue generating sport. Gymnastics and diving are super sweet sports, but they don’t generate any revenue whatsoever. I believe CF events could draw a crowd, using the football or basketball stadiums.
CFHQ has the wrong staff. Bunch of wokies working there. That’s the problem
Hyrox then
That's all wrong. He's advocating bodybuilding. CrossFit has skill elements. I don't want to look like a balloon animal, I want skills.
He’s saying the skill level is too high for entry level
Which is true! What are u going about mate?
Squats, deadlifts, presses and cardio are “bodybuilding”?
lol - funny cuz it could also be powerlifting… or just plain getting in shape depending on sets/reps/weights. But calling those three basics bodybuilding is just dumb
Crossfit do not care about shape, thats why
Were*
bruh....the sport of crossfit and crosffit are two different things. just scale appropriately
So basically stop doing crossfit "exercises" and lift normally like everybody else
They could not do the vegan thing and bring it up every opportunity they get
bet i could benchpress the lil guy
Assuming he’s like 225, thats not exactly impressive lmao
Pull ups
Throw it all away
So basically real training is bodybuilding 😅 yup n that's from a crossfit competitor repetition guys