RunCam 2 Review | $80 ACTION CAMERA
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2024
- The RunCam HD 2 is a leading candidate for a budget Action Camera for FPV video recording. RunCam is releasing a new version of this camera with a 170 degree wide angle lens. We'll take a look at the pros and cons of this style of camera, and investigate the features of the RunCam 2 specifically.
Thanks to RunCam for sending this camera for review. The RunCam 2 is available from here: shop.runcam.com/runcam2/
For a comparison of the video quality of the RunCam 2 and the GoPro Session 5, look here: • GoPro Session 5 vs. Ru...
I ordered one of these about a week ago and received yesterday in Australia. It also came with a cable to power it off the quad main battery or PDB making it even lighter. The cable also has the ability to start and stop recording off a RX output. Haven't tried this yet but means you can control the recording. Really good value for the money. I bought as a replacement for my gopro3 which I lost with my quad in a lake!
Been using mine as a dashcam. Dremelled small holes with a PCB drill because the mic was too quiet.
Haven't tried it on RC as yet but assume it will need some strategic foam inside now.
There is also a RX switch cable available for on/off/pics BTW.
Special battery tab grabbing tool for the fingernail 'challenged' is the back plate :-)
Thanks much again Joshua. Best non-droning technical drone (quad) channel around I think!
Good review. I think it is worth trying open cell foam over mic hole, in this case.
"you're going to learn something today"!-- and I do-- every time! Forget the clothes "man"-- Rock on. You, without a doubt are the best Technical Adviser for Racing Drones on the Utube, for our learning. Thanks for your comments. If you have any more ideas-- 1) cleanflight works, no receiver. 2) 2 new builds, X 210's, 4 in 1 Flycolor stack. Cleanflight will not connect.
Thanks Joshua,
I just broke my runcam2 and ordered a new one. It is supposed to be here tomorrow. I wish I knew an upgraded one was about to come out with higher FOV. Doh!
Try the 330ohm resistor between the microphone pins. It seems that the mice has a to high line volume.
Hi Joshua,
Thank you for the review. I’m getting into drone flying and fpv. My question is: when running the runcam 2 with fpv out to a 5.8 ghz transmitter, can I control options via the WiFi app? Such as take a still shot while in the air or am I stuck with continuous recording while in the air? If possible is there an action camera you can recommend that is capable of this option if the runcam 2 isn’t?
This is the only cam I will use on my wings. Its low profile creates less drag and I can tell you that I have flown a wing or two straight into the earth rather fast and the only thing that survived was the RunCam 2. I also keep one or two in my flying bag to capture B roll footage. Oh and as far as the wind noise because I am not super worried about audio I hot glue over the mic, this cuts out the wind noise but still leaves enough audio on playback to hear the motor.
Your the damn man I had firefly q6 it looked great
I only use the RunCam2 (pre-ordered it when it came out) on fixed wing only due to know painful it is to mount on the quad (session 5 for quads). Cutting weight by being able to fly without the battery is a big feature in my opinion. The other feature is that you can get ok latency on the analog out. Normal fixed wing flying at 1080 is just fine. I do drop down to 720p recording to get lower latency when flying proximity though. When you remove the battery and FPV camera you have a huge weight savings. I have be able to add HD recoding to really small airframes. Not exactly helpful on a quad but wanted to mention it.
JB, the GoPro has a mic on the front and the back and has an algorithm that negates wind noise choosing the best source for audio.
Joshua, you should give the Foxeer legend 2 a review. It's pretty good compared to the Runcam 2 and the audio on it is way better.
I used electrical tape on the mic dir3ctly, and foam adhesive tape over the casing holes.
Okay it's not related but your previous video was also awesome. Okay now I am watching Runcam 2 review, cheers :p
I turned off comments not because I was afraid of detractors, but because, like I said in the video, I'm not really interested in discussing this topic. I appreciate the support, but when I make a vlog like that and get slammed with support, it kind of feels like I'm pandering. So I almost turn off the comments more for preventing the outpouring of support than for the haters. I know most of you support me--thank you!
Great video. As always. Wanted to drop you a line....Runcam 2/3 are both manufactured with remote control options onboard. Something I use religiously as a long-distance FPV'r. Unbelievably Runcam has stopped producing the cable required to operate either camera remotely. I have written to them multiple times and receive the standard " the required cable is no longer sold". The use of remote control is a blessing considering the limited operational time due to the battery size and weight. Any chance this issue has crossed your desk...and if so, any suggestions on how to replace the cable? Thanks.
I haven't used one of this style of camera in years I'm afraid.
Still using the Yi, it's a fantastic little camera for the price (well, not anymore since they stopped making it and prices skyrocketed). I guess Session 5 is where it's at now, but it would be interesting to see a comparison between different low budget cameras. There are popping up a lot of new cheaper ones these days.
I bought an international version in December for $65 @Gearbest. At the moment it's $73. It has a far better battery than the old model (about 90min recording) and it does up to 2304x1296p@30 without modification (with scripts 2560 x 1440p@30). With some scripting you get "Superview" and "Protune" too, and up to 40Mbps bitrate. It's impossible to get more bang for the buck. Can't understand the "hate" from Josh.
I think that shape of camera is better for putting on the top of a RC car or buggy, something with a low CG without affecting performance.
4:50, is that an armattan oomph? will you be doing a review on it, they are really great motors!
Shhhhhh :-)
Your statement about the angle is wrong if you think about it. It is angled to match the fast forward flight like the fpv cam you are looking through. Unless you are just hovering, at which point both your fpv cam and your HD cam for recording are getting nice images of the sky - but you are not flying fast to where the profile makes a difference. Moving into flight as normal with a quad, then the profile tilts, and it is then again low profile as the angle matches the angle of the quad, or roughly so, needed for the fast forward flight.
My point is not about aerodynamics, just about how far out from the top plate the camera extends. The Mobius style cameras get more unwieldy as they get more uptilt.
fibranijevidra
Mini quads aren't aerodynamic at all. They are flying bricks with a high power to weight ratio.
The mobius style remain low drag to the relative airflow, the deck pitch is nose low for forward travel, the mobius is actually level.
You can easily solder in a new mic, improves it alot
Read/viewed the Foxeer Legend 2 is a much better camera. Your thoughts? Thanks!
I haven't tested it myself.
Thanks for repping my script man! :) I'm really happy that all of the mods and scripts etc to get the Yi looking decent comes stock on this. I'm super interested to see how good the quality is when u record in 1440p and stretch it to 1080p. Superview anyone?
Is the Waffle script working with the latest Yi firmware again?
www.goprawn.com/forum/main-forum/1345-xiaomi-yi-mods-for-z26l-fw-1-4-8/page3
;-) We posted all essential information in this thread. Waffle could make an official version now, if he would like.
ZeroFPV Wow yeah I haven't even touched the script for ages now. Probably should try and get it up to date
+WaffleFPV I read that thread and I'm still not sure... Is there a working 35 Mbps script for the current firmware?
Joshua Bardwell
not officialy from WaffleFPV himself yet (we reversed the firmware 2 or 3 days ago) but yes. I've made an adapted version of the Superview (with 35Mbps) script for the highest current revision/firmware of the Yi.
I literally about to drive to Best Buy for a new GoPro. I'm leaning toward the session 5 but I wanted your opinion. I'm considering getting the 1st gen session to save a little cash. Is the difference in image quality huge? I've had the hero 3 silver since it came out and I was perfectly happy with the image quality. Should I save $100 or will I regret not getting the 5? I'm sorry I just sometimes seek 3rd party justification on large purchases sometimes. If you were on a tight budget but needed an hd cam which one would you choose?
+DrFuNK I don't really know what the session 4 does to compare it to the session 5.
Joshua Bardwell I don't either and can't really find any good comparisons online. Thanks for the reply anyway. I suppose I'll get the 5 just to be safe.
The RunCam II is a very light camera and even lighter if its the only camera. The biggest advantage is that you can fly FPV through it without any noticeable latency. Can you make a video of you flying from the RunCam II output?
There is literally no way the live output from the RC 2 has low enough latency to be used for FPV. I can't believe it. Has anybody got an actual number?
I fly it all the time on both quads and planes. Try it.
There is a separate analog signal just for FPV. I suspect that this is where some of the RC Eagle tech came from.
Really??? Wow. That is something. So the video output is split off from the sensor separate from the HD recording. If that's true, it's truly impressive.
Joshua Bardwell I've actually tried this and the latency although fairly low, it's not low enough to fly comfortably. the frame rate i felt suffered a bit also. seemed kinda jerky. never tried it again and prefer my hs1177
Hello Joshua, I saw a video from a YT user that desolder the stock mic and installed a new one. The audio improved a little but not good as the gopro audio. Do you know if would be possible to mount the 170º on the "old" Runcam 2?
+rcBlackFalcon the runcam and Mobius typically have interchangeable lenses so I bet so.
Hope yes! Thanks, cheers
if you comparw both cams quality when sun is down?
What's the orange light for? Green is picture but what does orange do?
any news about the new runcam 3 with session size style?
+George Chatzisavvidis no news at all.
mr bardwell i cant afford to replace gopro session 4 but do u have cam u reccomend?
+David Downs get session 4 with best buy insurance
I wish they would design them with a built in 30deg angle, as in the body of the cam would lay flat, but the lens would be at a angle. That's alright for general flying, and for speed we would only need to tilt it a little more. Means it would suck for fixed wing tho. Even better, have the front on a hinge so we can adjust it.
Yup. Would be awesome.
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Thanks heaps! Sorry I didn't see the video go up right away.
I've sent you a address. Please get back to be with shipping cost, and how you would like me to pay (ie paypal).
Thanks again!
just to mention the gopro 5 session holds for ages if you turn every feature off and use it manually
Gopro: "...., I'm $300."
Joshua: "Shut up."
🤣🤣Baaaaaaaahahahahahha! Legend🤣🤣
That was the best part of this video! Good stuff Josh!
so, I thought i'd bought the wide FOV version, but it turns out, I got the 120 degree RC2. Is it possible to get the 170 degree camera module anywhere?
I would think you could change the lens, but I don't know where you can buy just the lens.
Joshua Bardwell just for reference if anyone else is reading this and wanted to do the same-, the runcam website sells the entire 170 degree module (lens and CCD) for 40 bucks or so. hopefully its pin compatible, cos I really want to order one!
HAHAHAHA!!!! Love the Gopro sarcasm :D
Josh would it be better for me to use a D4Rll RX OR depin a X8R RX and use it with sbus with my kiss fc & kiss esc's? i have both rx's but since going through cancer treatment money is short! i have like 4 L9R RX's as well but they do not have telem so i figure that a depinned X8R RX would be Better than a D4Rll because atleast the X8R has sbus is this ok to use? I respect your Answer. Also i have a new M.A.R.S 58 V2 PARACHUTE RECOVERY SYSTEM THAT COST 400USD THAT I WILL SELL FOR 200USD IF YOU KNOW ANYONE OR WILL TRADE FOR PARTS?
+david ringler I would use anything with SBUS first if you could fit it on the copter easily.
What camera do you use now? In the yi style
GoPro Session is my current HD cam. Apparently, the ability to script the Yi to work at 35 Mbps has been fixed, so if I weren't using a Session, I would use the Yi.
Ok thanks! I was aiming for a yi again :) Now I know for sure
I don't agree with the angle comment. You point the camera into the direction of motion. The RunCam has the lowest profile
that's correct... your cam is pointing with his lens to the direction of the wind...
The point is just how far above the top plate the camera is sticking. it's not about aerodynamics so much as it is about snagging on things.
Joshua Bardwell when it's on my quads they're pitched forward so the runcam is kinda level so surely less drag than the gopro?
Loads of respect to you and the info you provide to 1000's of flyers 👍
Look - it's for 77.49 USD with coupon code: GBACL1
www.gearbest.com/action-cameras/pp_277710.html?wid=21&lkid=10800900
I bought one
th-cam.com/video/bF8uc9mtcM8/w-d-xo.html
I wish HK would make those conversion kits to make the runcam into a gopro style camera
+Peter Woo runcam 3 is coming.
Joshua Bardwell I can finally stop waiting 😂
+Joshua Bardwell is it a gopro form factor?
It's a Session form factor.
+Joshua Bardwell now that sounds exciting :D
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Top plate is to weak.. I have ran through a few of them.
you can mod the plastic to add up tilt to it.
pros is its a very light HD cam. the cons are no protection via top of the runcam and the mic is hella horrible.
I Prefer a Mobius Mini,because it's a lot smaller then the runcam.
The price is almost the same ! ;-)
Since I have smashed a few of these ( among others) I know the lens is on a ribbon cable. Why can't anyone make the lens tiltable inside the cam? So we can just strap them on and adjust without trying all kinds of foam wedges and stuff to get our angles.....
+SKIDOOSH this is a mod that some have done.
TY for the link. I have seen the mods...I want mine to come out of the box ready dammit...hahaha
Why not doing a comparison of cheap action cameras ? Like sub 100$ ones ?
I am honestly a little burned out on product shootouts right now. I get a ton of gear from vendors and then I feel really stressed over having to put out videos in a certain time frame. It's a shame, because product-heavy videos generate views (product names are great keywords). But right now, I'm just not going to commit to any more shootouts for a while, unless I am DYING to do it.
No problem ;) that was just an idea I had after searching for a cheap ass action cam :)
Joshua Bardwell good for you Josh. Move at your own pace buddy. Take care! Keep up the great work!
You forgot one big pro: it is orange!
I thought that Runcam would have changed the microphone with a new cam. model! Such a fail.
170 degrees?? Ugh, just ordered one with the 120. Was the only negative I found. Wish I would have waited now.
Maybe the lens will be replaceable?
Its really hard to swap the lenses due to the glue that they use on the treads when its assembled.
I've owned 5 of these cameras and they have all had some kind of problem with the PCB-mounted power button. After 10-20 flights the button stops working and the camera becomes useless because you cannot turn it on or start recording. It's a shame because this camera is pretty awesome otherwise. I wouldn't recommend this camera to anyone.
Five cameras and all failed! Wow. That is a shame. Certainly worth keeping in mind. So many people seem to have good results with them, though.
We bought all of them up front in early 2016. There is a possibility that they've since improved the design. I'd certainly like to hear about it if you have a similar issue with yours!
neonbjb had mine for 6 months now and I've just began to notice that it is harder to power it on. i was really bummed out one time and thought my battery was completely dead until after i got home and tried turning it on and bam!
0:23 I've never seen a Mobius cam before, to me this is more like a Ricoh WG-M2 4K Action Cam (th-cam.com/video/k76XmGgMRTw/w-d-xo.html).
Great camera for me, I don't care about audio
If they could only fix the poor sound on these. I have owned the original RC and 2 RC 2s. Love the cams but have always had to mute the sound because it is absolute garbage!
Brent Simpson there's 2 mods to drastically improve sounds quality on these. one is to solder a 330ohm resistor across the mic pins and the other is to replace the mic entirely with a better quality that also has a lower gain.
in addition, physically rerouting the mic (whether you do the resistor mod or the replacement mod) to the back of the casing will eliminate almost all wind noise.
Do you have a link to a mic that would fit? IM very interested in doing this to both my RC2s thanks.
Brent Simpson www.ebay.ca/itm/262350289997
Brent Simpson or if you prefer the resistor mod, depending on the quality of mic you use, both methods combined may be necessary.
www.ebay.com/itm/332075468320
Mov. format, blahh
hahahahahahahaha. Is MOV objectively worse? Or just harder to work with? Ever since I got Premiere I don't worry to much about these things ;-)
Joshua Bardwell objectively yes! file extensions don't alter quality. they only store header info. if you use a free vid editor you will need to convert to mp4 otherwise premiere pro is what you need