I honestly forget why I didn’t finish the old versions of this story. Third times a charm, at least this one actually got finished lol. Hope you enjoy!
Could you continue what if humans got zenkais? I know this was the combination but i really liked how Nappa and Dendes brother were being handled. It was my personal favorite what if so im biased
Yamcha is Baba's missing fighter. She has a vampire, mummy, invisible man, a devil and Grampa Gohan counts as a ghost. All she needs to complete the set is a Wolfman.
I once saw someone saying they headcanon Man-wolf (from the 22nd tournament arc) as one of Baba's crew. Unfortunately, I don't remember where I saw the person who had this idea.
This is probably my favorite what if scenario created lately. Tien getting his potential unlocked and creating the 100 witches technique. Yamcha getting a beastly transformation to keep him relevant. Chi-Chi actually staying with the Z warriors power level. It just makes it so great. Also Piccolo having Kaioken would have made so much more sense in the canon show.
It never made sense to me why Picclo just meditates on his own instead of taking advantage of the chance to train with King Kai, or why no one who did train with him showed any results later.
@@zeeshanismail7768 yamcha dosent know love anymore so hes gonna beat them guys who think love is ognna stop him im reffering to when his girl litrally had a child with the guy that killed him and the BOIS
Can we just talk about how at the final part Tien put together a super Op team based off the situation, like my guy is hands down a pure strategic genius
I loved that part. "This Moro, what can he do?" "Well, he uses magic and can absorb energy." "Oh, that's easy. I got a couple of friends (and Vegeta) that can help."
Tien always did seem to have better grasp of his situations than other fighters, hardly ever let emotions cloud his judgement in fights and he was used to dirty tactics throughout his life(at least, before Z relegated him to being just a side-character that rarely get his moment to shine and then Super sh*ted on him). He should've had a commander-like role in Z-Fighters group.
43:13 I can imagine Frieza's reaction: "T-Two super Saiyans! And some kind of... Super... Earthling!? No no no, this must be some sort of nightmare! This can't be real!"
It sucks that humans are given short end of the stick when it comes to training and growing stronger, and getting too overshadowed by Saiyans, aliens and godly beings.
@@xygo6038 wait is it a steady thing? I've always heard his immortality is one and done. So he permanently lives forever, barring being killed of course
Ideas for different kind of Zenkai boost. Saiyans: the closer to dying they get the further their limit break goes. but they must get hurt for it to work at all. (I think that's how it goes in dragon ball) Humans: when they are in a stressful situation their limit goes further. Then they just have to train to reach it. but they must have down time in between or the return of the stress diminish. Namekians: their regeneration make their body stronger when guided by their mind. but it require the knowledge of what is needed to be improved specifically.
Love the "Stress based Zenkai" for humans. Reminds me of the Darkest Dungeon stress system, when they reach their limit they have a chance to develop a virtue, becoming a diamond under all the pressure instead of crumbing appart, this giving them a great boost in their habilities but they can't push themselves too far or their body won't be able to handle it. great ideas mate
Technically humans do have a stress-based limit remover: adrenaline. It could be that a trained body and mind could harness the boost adrenaline grants, making that stronger state the new base.
there is so much about this I really like. from the different forms for everyone, to the fact that this makes the world a lot less Goku-centric. but one of the smaller details that I really enjoy is the fact that we actually have a main fighter who uses magic... since the magic of the DBZ world is either ignored or used by the villains mostly. and add onto that the fact the mage of the group is Tien which is great since he gets ignored so often in the main story
This is really cool. I wouldn't be watching a video like this to begin with if I didn't enjoy the actual show, but the whole "If you're not a Saiyan, you're crap." thing has definitely been one of the more tiresome aspects of the franchise from Z onward. I love that this is an actual ensemble, and I love that almost everyone got a unique way to get stronger and stay relevant. Definitely love the treatment that Yamcha got. Not only did he escape becoming a joke, his niche actually harkens back to his original presentation. Thanks, that was a lot of fun to watch!
I always thought it would have been interesting if each of the z warriors had set up their own animal themed schools. Each with their own unique and interesting techniques. Turtle and Crane already exist, Yamcha is always going on about wolves, and eventually we discover that Tien has started a school but we got very few details on it. So maybe Yamcha should have started the wolf school, maybe Tien's school should be the heron, swan, or phoenix, Krillin could have been the badger, tiger or the Fu, and Chiaotzu the Quail, Dove or Owl. I think the 4 of them not becoming masters themselves was a greatly missed opportunity.
This was one of my favorite what if scenarios. the way you gave the humans unique forms and helped them keep up with them. Side note: I am looking forward to seeing Alpha Yamcha and the other forms in future what ifs.
The worst part is there's no such thing as an Alpha wolf... Yep, this is perfect for Yamcha, he probably heard the word on the Internet and it's false association with Wolves and decided it was the perfect name for his form cause to him, super cool. Little did the poor goof know...
@@0r4nI wouldn't say cringe but definitely something Yamcha would call it. Couldn't call it Beast Yamcha. I honestly would have called it Wolf Spirit Yamcha. Since Yamcha focused on using spirit energy it would make sense. At least it makes sense to me. :p
Nobody has any idea why this isn't how the series actually went. I'm talking about THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN SO HYPE if I was still a kid. I mean this has so much potential on its own. Imagine if this was really how the series was. Finding out about all these powers and the training arcs! I'd gladly rewaatch this on toonami
They are overpowered all in different ways Unique and potent And since you saw their journey from basic to BADASS You love the more Especially comparing it to the canon Since nobody but the main characters get the good stuff
Tbh Majin Vegeta could’ve become a thing. Vegeta could’ve probably just came by time to time to check the situation on earth to see if anything was happening or has happened.
After Mr Pride-&-Glory(Vegeta) joined the group, the jumping in Dragon Ball just wasn't the same... Also, because power-levels got wayy too ridiculous and wayy too quickly.
@@war_axe multi form splits his power in half, but fusion is one power multiplied by the other so it wouldn’t be useless. not as useful if it was with someone else, but good enough for a boost for one person
we don’t actually know if the fusion dance multiplies their powers exactly, but we do know it’s at minimum, a higher boost than simply adding power levels together. multi form divides power level of the one being split in 2. so if those two fuse, it’ll at least be stronger than the original no matter what. of course, that’s assuming the fusion even works instead of just merging the two back together
@@TohuBohuC the key is that the fusion dance multiplies your power exponentially while multiform only divides your power by half. it's completely feasible imo
I absolutely love this series. The old What If Roshi Wished For Youth story is one of my favorites along with some others, including What If Chi-Chi Became A Saiyan and What If The Humans Became Androids.
59:36 Tien probably has every type of technique known to Dragonball Cannon by now, psychokinetic moves, Ki moves, Magic moves, reinforcement type moves, blast time moves, melee, teleportation, fusion, evasion, creation, destruction (not _that_ type) he has it all... Except Kaioken. Granted, most of them are probably near useless as I'm sure a lot of people had mostly useless techniques that were at least quick enough to master that it wouldn't hurt to learn, like the clothes beam piccolo has, not exactly good in battle but a nice utility move to make life easier.
Was a bit disappointed that Chi-Chi didn’t take part in the tournament of power until she got her beast form with Gohan, didn’t expect that. Yamcha and Tien’s forms are awesome but ultra instinct Roshi really takes the cake
Glad I saw this comment so I could stop watching Yamcha suddenly getting a wolf transformation and then somehow chi chi can get beast form is stupid as hell
@@JtheBOSS There is no reason chichi wouldn;t have such a form as it isn't race specific and the idea of Gohan's incredible potential being inherited from his mother rather than his father is cool. I do wish there was more explanation for Yamcha's though.
I actually think that prior to the namek saga. A lot of the fighters saw a comparable amount of growth to goku. But the major difference was the mindset and how much they were willing to push themselves( and ancient alien prophecy, but let’s ignore that for now). I don’t think everyone worked as hard as goku did to achieve the power they got. Like how krillin admitted that he gets scared by villains in super, causing him to flee or let someone else take care of it, or how Yamaha has no interest in training. Piccolo is training but he’s always been relavent, and if we ignore forms, then he would be on somewhat equal footing
The thing is that the human z fighers seemed to be on the path of being relevant until the android arc. They actually managed to catch up to the likes of raditz's power level within a year through training alone. Meaning, they had entirely surpassed goku and piccolo individually by the time the saiyans arrive. I think that's insane. It sucks toriyama discarded them...
its really cool seeing all the new forms but I cant help but giggle at hearing about a full power cell getting dogged on by the z fighters and everyones like "ayo let me jump in I want to fight too" like he was already probably gonna lose with piccolo, yamcha and roshi, more people just keep coming in to wait for their turn lol
Would have LOVED for Chi-Chi to get more of an arc leading up to her beast mode beyond “don’t worry, I haven’t forgotten about her,” because it didn’t feel earned in the slightest. THAT SAID, there were a LOT of moving parts to this series, and giving everyone the spotlight while still keeping each part in a reasonable length is a challenge. Overall, this was a really interesting take on this concept. I’d love to see how others handle it and how they’d give different folks the spotlight.
2:58 for Master Roshi I thought you were going to go into the pseudo Ultra Instinct thing for him; being a very smart defensive fighter with UI-lite abilities.
I love the thumbnails you make for the full stories. They are SO GOOD! Sometimes even after I’ve watched the whole story I click on these just because it looks so cool 😂
The concept of Beast Gohan is really interesting. It's clearly not just another level of SS, but it works much the same way, just with an absolutely insane multiplier. Furthermore, we know from the canon events that at least one rare form of SS exists that both Broly and his universe 6 rule 63 counterpart have access to. Now onto the topic of humans. Of course we've all heard IRL stories of mothers lifting cars/trucks off their children after unfortunate accidents gaining seemingly impossible strength for a brief moment to try and save their progeny. There are similar stories of situations where otherwise unimpressive people perform feats of strength that surpass logic. We know that this is because we as humans don't use our full strength pretty much most of the time, as the strain on our bodies would be too great. Adrenaline and the rage that often accompanies it break through our normal limits on using it, though the toll on our bodies is intense. Though it has never been officially confirmed by Toriyama or anyone else high up in the Dragon Ball canon decision-making hierarchy, but what if Beast is just an extension of that? Since SS already has an exceedingly rare variant in whatever they're officially calling the Broly type these days, I remember when it was LSS but haven't kept up on everything. What I'm suggesting is that Yamcha's transformation in this "What If" AU could be something like Broly's SS, but applied to Beast rather than SS, losing some of the general boost to specialize more like a particular animal the user has a connection with. Obviously in Yamcha's case that'd be a wolf, but this variant of Beast could apply to almost any other animal depending on who else unlocked it. Could definitely see Krillin in the future of this AU unlocking a turtle-like variation that massively boosts his ability to tank hits without really affecting his offense except for maybe a slight increase.
In the dbs broly movie, broly was said to be pure of heart two times. The first time was when cheelai and lemo heard broly talk about his childhood, and the second time was when Gogeta used the Stardust Breaker/Soul Punisher on Broly as we see the next scene. Broly was unharmed from it, showing us that Broly was pure of heart.
This is definitely one of my favorite scenarios, probably not far off from What If Goku Was Evil in terms of creative liberties and unique additions. I will also never get over Vegeta's pro gamer move of teleporting the Androids in front of the Spirit Bomb.
I love the concept with roshi just think about it now he's basically the mortal Kombat Raiden equivalent to this world he can train Earth's defenders forever
I love the idea of gohans rage boost/beast form coming from chichis blood. Shes always getting mad and her dad is the OX king so having a beast form makes sense.. the power of the ox
Absolutely phenomenal, love the way you did this what if scenerio. The name for Yamchas form "Alpha" got a chuckle out of me, but it definitely is fitting. My only gripe is how Yamcha and bulna didn't have kids so no new characters came about but still very very good. This is probably my favorite what if video ive seen so far (and funnily enough its my first watch from your content) definitely gonna check out some of your other vids.
Perfect direction for this story. If there are more arcs after this, I'd love to see a continuation. Honestly, this is superior to the original story in my book.
Yajirobe is OP. Of he trained like them he would easily be the stongest human and maybe on par with piccolo. He does zero training and was still able to keep up with them at the beginning. He would still be overshadowed bur he would be the strongest human.
I mean, you aren't wrong, pretty sure he was as strong as the other humans in the Saiyan Saga, who had been training basically their entire lives. This means that with just a little training, as early on in the story as the Saiyan Saga, he surpassed Raditz's power level.
41:50 I was like "yamcha now goes super saiyan and solos frieza smh" and then after that, my man actually gave yamcha a transformation that was kinda beating up frieza, i swear i literally died because i called that XD
Depends on the child birth ig. I imagine birth complications that they end up recovering from would have that intended effect, but normal childbirth wouldn't
This is one of the best What If scenarios I've seen yet, especially since we get to see Yamcha evolve in a way we never thought possible! Outstanding job!
An idea I would have liked would have been the Z fighters as a whole learning and mastering spirit control like they all have flight and ki blasts, with Yamcha in particular excelling at it as he envisions his spirit as a fierce wolf that has been fighting alongside him all this time. Learning to manifest his aura into wolf-like claws and fangs he gains an equivelent of a transformation signifigantly strengthening his physical attacks and later on could either manifest it as an etirey seperate stand-like entity or fuse the projection into his body to acheive a far more powerful physical wolf-like transformation.
Missed opportunity: not so nice piccolo could have injured himself as Ginyu before switching bodies. An ironic twist that wouldn't change much, but say a lot about piccolo's strategy and character during that time
Interesting thought... what do you think Captain Ginyu originally looked like? Like what if one of his previous bodies was Recoome or something? He just subdued him and made him swear fealty. Also, is Recoome human or what? I feel like a Ginyu back story would be pretty interesting. These what if stories got my imagination running full tilt
No one asked but I absolutely LOVE the idea of Zenkai boosts, it rewards actually fighting, since fighting is basically just training but way more dangerous.
51:20 I assume Bulma's still at the check in station trying to comprehend the fact that she infact is dead, cause it all happened so fast. Unlike everyone else who died out, she just was there one minute, bright flash and next thing she knew, surrounded by bright yellow clouds at a strange castle place. probably unaware she was insta-vaporized until it's explained at the check-in station.
Honestly that’s how most people die in DBZ, one moment they’re minding their own business then some super powerful being flicks their finger and they’re suddenly in line with everyone else in the city.
always a joy seeing the rest of the z-fighters get some love edit: i just came up with a what-if idea, and decided to throw it in here: what if the android/cell saga happened after the buu saga? like, if gero saw how powerful goku was after returning from namek and decided to wait way longer to enact his plan just to be safe, and it could be explained as a side effect of trunks time travelling. i feel like that'd be a pretty neat one to explore
Probably my most favorite since it give’s almost everyone something unique and well written hope the next what if series is your version if Napa survived but in your way instead of masako
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I honestly forget why I didn’t finish the old versions of this story. Third times a charm, at least this one actually got finished lol. Hope you enjoy!
I LOVE your vids plz think about turtles
Could you continue what if humans got zenkais? I know this was the combination but i really liked how Nappa and Dendes brother were being handled. It was my personal favorite what if so im biased
Salad if you don’t do this your-“ hey, it’s me Goku!” Never mind but I really want you to do a what if Bardock was the legendary super Saiyan
I loved this keep up the good work
I shall and thank you I thought about this stuff
Yamcha is Baba's missing fighter. She has a vampire, mummy, invisible man, a devil and Grampa Gohan counts as a ghost. All she needs to complete the set is a Wolfman.
... Completely forgot about her whole schtick. That's unironically genius, surprised Salad didn't play off of it
I once saw someone saying they headcanon Man-wolf (from the 22nd tournament arc) as one of Baba's crew. Unfortunately, I don't remember where I saw the person who had this idea.
oh dip... yea i wana write that fanfic now.
They should really have a boost for humans z fighters
@@LeronTurner-u5k yes there is its the ultimate from elder kai its jsut that idk fi elder kai would do that to a lot of people
"If you got zenkai boosts you'd probably be unstoppable"-future trunks
"Yeah i know right"-krillin
also krillin " senzu bean!"
This is the only way I’ll ever read it.
Also Krillin: "You guys are the reason I need therapy."
Ah yes teamfourstar a beautiful channel
I want them to have an offshoot where Krillin retroactively had Saiyan biology. Let him get those Zenkai boosts...
Ok, Beast ChiChi is an amazing idea. The notion that the beast form didn't come from Gohans dad, but his mom. Chef's kiss.
Ox King Potential + Super Saiyan Cells = Beast
Where does she get the super saiyan ce- oh yeah nvm
I genuinely think that it has something to do with the Ultimate state, so I don’t think she should have it, but who cares really.
@@ModTheBotonly a theory right now, so until it's confirmed there's no reason why it wouldn't be possible in this what-if
@@Comic3665 That’s literally what I meant?
1:08:55
"he looks like Tien, he looks like Yamcha, and his hairline is really messed up"
this one got me good
He fused with Lebron
That hairline is indeed really messed up
Don't forget to mention the MASSIVE SHOULDERS!!!
DAM THAT HAIRLINE IS COOKE D 😭
GYAAT damn look at that hairline 😭
This is probably my favorite what if scenario created lately. Tien getting his potential unlocked and creating the 100 witches technique. Yamcha getting a beastly transformation to keep him relevant. Chi-Chi actually staying with the Z warriors power level. It just makes it so great. Also Piccolo having Kaioken would have made so much more sense in the canon show.
It never made sense to me why Picclo just meditates on his own instead of taking advantage of the chance to train with King Kai, or why no one who did train with him showed any results later.
biker raditz >
Son family fighters is amazing. I wish it was a thing.
Imagine piccolo using beast stacked with kaioken...
@@joelsasmadmeditation is op see how op jiren is?
*During the T.O.P*
Other G.o.d's:Beerus what the f- did you gave to your mortals!? Steroids!?
Beerus:I have no idea
dude one of the universe has fighters that utilize the power of "love"
god ki steroids lol steriods infused iwth god ki
@@zeeshanismail7768 yamcha dosent know love anymore so hes gonna beat them guys who think love is ognna stop him im reffering to when his girl litrally had a child with the guy that killed him and the BOIS
I just realized God of destruction abbreviated just spells out God.
How did I miss this?
Whis: Take away the -us.
One drop.
It's weird that Goku looking around and seeing how strong everyone else is feels like the satisfying ending that he deserved and never got.
THIS gave me chills
Can we just talk about how at the final part Tien put together a super Op team based off the situation, like my guy is hands down a pure strategic genius
I loved that part.
"This Moro, what can he do?"
"Well, he uses magic and can absorb energy."
"Oh, that's easy. I got a couple of friends (and Vegeta) that can help."
@@rjante2236 "and Vegeta" made me laugh way more than it should have
Tien always did seem to have better grasp of his situations than other fighters,
hardly ever let emotions cloud his judgement in fights
and he was used to dirty tactics throughout his life(at least, before Z relegated him to being just a side-character that rarely get his moment to shine and then Super sh*ted on him).
He should've had a commander-like role in Z-Fighters group.
Alternate title: What if Toriyama didn't forget about characters who aren't Goku and Vegeta
Fr
Fax
or Gohan and piccolo
Nah, a better alternate title would be: What if Toriyama forgot goku existed. He gets so sidelined in this story😂
43:13 I can imagine Frieza's reaction: "T-Two super Saiyans! And some kind of... Super... Earthling!? No no no, this must be some sort of nightmare! This can't be real!"
"You see Frieza you're not dealing with the average Saiyan and earthling warrior any more."
"Oh my God"
@@IlcotheOtter "I will not be beaten by a couple of flying monkeys, and their little dog too!"
@@Solesteam 🤣🤣
Who else heard TFS Freeza?
@ShadowWolf2023-yp5zg Exactly, from the flying monkey mention and "little dog too"
It sucks that humans are given short end of the stick when it comes to training and growing stronger, and getting too overshadowed by Saiyans, aliens and godly beings.
The dragon balls COULD fix that issue
@@Xanderxindershin That's way beyond Shenron's power.
@@dsato2670 I didn’t say Shenron 🥵
@@XanderxindershinAYOOO
I mean, with the BS power up Granola got I don't think its a stretch to ask for better growth rates or something@@dsato2670
Story where every Z-Fighter have their Time to Shine are always the most interesting one. Good job, Salad!
Regular Dragonball: One on One fights
This what if: Z-fighters jump all the villians.
Hit 'em with the Jumpjutsu special
Mad respect for giving yamcha the power that he deserves
I didn’t even watch Dragon ball but just seeing Yamcha powerful and respected makes me happy
What?😂
The dude was such a powerhouse in the original Dragonball. He really got screwed over in DBZ.
@@Here_is_Waldo Sure making him into a furry is big upgrade
@@oscarjpueblapuebla253 he is supposed to be a werewolf, to fit his wolf fang fists, you dummy
Honestly, this is better than only the "pick a color" super transformations in the canon for the heroes.
Facts it's lazy ssj4 at least looks awesome and creative
Can’t wait for super saiyan pink. Oh wait
@@carlwheezer1030 SuBaRaShIi
Technically master Roshi should be the strongest because if he has eternal life and youth he can spam the time chamber he’d be broken
He wouldn't be able to stay in to long. You think Roshi would stay away from the women for that long?
That is torture mannmn
@@TheKoriKasaialso he gets his eternal life comes from a special herb so he would run out sooner rather than later
@@xygo6038 wait is it a steady thing? I've always heard his immortality is one and done. So he permanently lives forever, barring being killed of course
@@TheKoriKasai he needs to take it to keep his eternal life in super there is an episode where he sends goku and krillin to get it for him
This feels like what would happen if the JJK Writers wrote Dragon Ball, basically everyone just gets jumped by the squad the moment they want hands
I was wondering why you were mentioning JJK in particular for this
Then I remember Yuuji's teamups with Nanami and Todo....
Yamaha learning how to create the Spirit Bomb, then control it like his Spirit Ball.
Or pulling a Hellzone Grenade that's also homing on their target.
Im imagining him throwing a super spirit bomb like his lvl 1 in fighters
He basically does the Hellzone Grenade against Nappa in An Earth Without Goku
Ideas for different kind of Zenkai boost.
Saiyans: the closer to dying they get the further their limit break goes. but they must get hurt for it to work at all. (I think that's how it goes in dragon ball)
Humans: when they are in a stressful situation their limit goes further. Then they just have to train to reach it. but they must have down time in between or the return of the stress diminish.
Namekians: their regeneration make their body stronger when guided by their mind. but it require the knowledge of what is needed to be improved specifically.
Love the "Stress based Zenkai" for humans.
Reminds me of the Darkest Dungeon stress system, when they reach their limit they have a chance to develop a virtue, becoming a diamond under all the pressure instead of crumbing appart, this giving them a great boost in their habilities but they can't push themselves too far or their body won't be able to handle it.
great ideas mate
Technically humans do have a stress-based limit remover: adrenaline. It could be that a trained body and mind could harness the boost adrenaline grants, making that stronger state the new base.
Nice
there is so much about this I really like. from the different forms for everyone, to the fact that this makes the world a lot less Goku-centric. but one of the smaller details that I really enjoy is the fact that we actually have a main fighter who uses magic... since the magic of the DBZ world is either ignored or used by the villains mostly. and add onto that the fact the mage of the group is Tien which is great since he gets ignored so often in the main story
This is really cool. I wouldn't be watching a video like this to begin with if I didn't enjoy the actual show, but the whole "If you're not a Saiyan, you're crap." thing has definitely been one of the more tiresome aspects of the franchise from Z onward. I love that this is an actual ensemble, and I love that almost everyone got a unique way to get stronger and stay relevant. Definitely love the treatment that Yamcha got. Not only did he escape becoming a joke, his niche actually harkens back to his original presentation.
Thanks, that was a lot of fun to watch!
Z-Fighters are pure unadulterated awesomeness.
*badass
Even Yamaha 🤨
@@adiensill20Yamaha 😂
@@delta9240*goodass
@@svlsrv0010 "I heard that triclops!"
I always thought it would have been interesting if each of the z warriors had set up their own animal themed schools. Each with their own unique and interesting techniques. Turtle and Crane already exist, Yamcha is always going on about wolves, and eventually we discover that Tien has started a school but we got very few details on it. So maybe Yamcha should have started the wolf school, maybe Tien's school should be the heron, swan, or phoenix, Krillin could have been the badger, tiger or the Fu, and Chiaotzu the Quail, Dove or Owl. I think the 4 of them not becoming masters themselves was a greatly missed opportunity.
and obviously goku and vegeta would found twin schools. gokus way of the Golden monkey and vegetas path of the vengeful baboon
@@lornbaker1083 "monkey and baboon"? frieza? is that you?
Goku’s would be Dragon while Vegeta’s would be Monkey but this is actually intriguing too
Chichi as a saiyan is Goku’s worst nightmare
Goku would've died many more times in the show due to fear
Who told you you can leave the bedroom I'm going to kick your ass probably ChiChi
Nah he would be in deep love
@@alejandrocuevas3858both. Both is good
super sayian chichi > MUI goku
This was one of my favorite what if scenarios. the way you gave the humans unique forms and helped them keep up with them. Side note: I am looking forward to seeing Alpha Yamcha and the other forms in future what ifs.
Yamcha became a furry but i like it
Alpha yamcha just sounds do cringe
The worst part is there's no such thing as an Alpha wolf... Yep, this is perfect for Yamcha, he probably heard the word on the Internet and it's false association with Wolves and decided it was the perfect name for his form cause to him, super cool. Little did the poor goof know...
@@0r4nI wouldn't say cringe but definitely something Yamcha would call it. Couldn't call it Beast Yamcha. I honestly would have called it Wolf Spirit Yamcha. Since Yamcha focused on using spirit energy it would make sense. At least it makes sense to me. :p
@@Skrulzie i would have hoped he would call it something like primal yamcha cuz that at least sounds cool
Freiza would see SSJ goku and alpha yamcha and be like: "a monkey and a wolf? You really are animals"
Why would I actually imagine him saying this bro😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ultrasonic1 because Frieza is speciesist like that. Darn overgrown lizard.
Nobody has any idea why this isn't how the series actually went. I'm talking about THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN SO HYPE if I was still a kid. I mean this has so much potential on its own. Imagine if this was really how the series was. Finding out about all these powers and the training arcs! I'd gladly rewaatch this on toonami
I love it too
This story was nuts... everyone's so ridiculously overpowered... but still fun all the way through.
If everybody is op no one is
@@James-wj8vbthat's deep
@@James-wj8vb"if everyone's super no one will be"
They are overpowered all in different ways
Unique and potent
And since you saw their journey from basic to BADASS
You love the more
Especially comparing it to the canon
Since nobody but the main characters get the good stuff
Chchi bout to give Goku something to REALLY be scared of.
Ayo... What's this supposed to mean 💀
Yeah, her throwing it back is going to be planetary level
@@Jon_Fury😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭😭💀
@@Jon_Fury😒
@@Godly_Severancethere's actually a doujin where MUI Goku and Beast Chichi do it and the planet explodes
Tbh Majin Vegeta could’ve become a thing. Vegeta could’ve probably just came by time to time to check the situation on earth to see if anything was happening or has happened.
I forgot that in early Z the Z fighters didn’t have any problem with jumping people 😂
After Mr Pride-&-Glory(Vegeta) joined the group, the jumping in Dragon Ball just wasn't the same...
Also, because power-levels got wayy too ridiculous and wayy too quickly.
this should be a basis for future what-ifs.
some people can make what-ifs based on other people's what-ifs, and this could be one of them.
Someone get MasakoX to do something like this!
i wish tien would’ve tried using multi form and then the fusion dance. i think that would’ve been rlly cool
And useless? The multi forms, It is just a square root of Tien's power no?
@@war_axe multi form splits his power in half, but fusion is one power multiplied by the other so it wouldn’t be useless. not as useful if it was with someone else, but good enough for a boost for one person
we don’t actually know if the fusion dance multiplies their powers exactly, but we do know it’s at minimum, a higher boost than simply adding power levels together. multi form divides power level of the one being split in 2. so if those two fuse, it’ll at least be stronger than the original no matter what. of course, that’s assuming the fusion even works instead of just merging the two back together
He would just rejoin with himself, multiform splits the power level aswell
@@TohuBohuC the key is that the fusion dance multiplies your power exponentially while multiform only divides your power by half. it's completely feasible imo
Dragon ball Z but the Z fighters lock tf in
Bro this is THE story I've always wanted. Thank you bro
Yamcha training with the wolf group from universe 6 would have been great
Adopted brother...
Roshi really just said “how do you do fellow kids?”
I absolutely love this series. The old What If Roshi Wished For Youth story is one of my favorites along with some others, including What If Chi-Chi Became A Saiyan and What If The Humans Became Androids.
59:36 Tien probably has every type of technique known to Dragonball Cannon by now, psychokinetic moves, Ki moves, Magic moves, reinforcement type moves, blast time moves, melee, teleportation, fusion, evasion, creation, destruction (not _that_ type) he has it all... Except Kaioken.
Granted, most of them are probably near useless as I'm sure a lot of people had mostly useless techniques that were at least quick enough to master that it wouldn't hurt to learn, like the clothes beam piccolo has, not exactly good in battle but a nice utility move to make life easier.
Was a bit disappointed that Chi-Chi didn’t take part in the tournament of power until she got her beast form with Gohan, didn’t expect that. Yamcha and Tien’s forms are awesome but ultra instinct Roshi really takes the cake
Glad I saw this comment so I could stop watching Yamcha suddenly getting a wolf transformation and then somehow chi chi can get beast form is stupid as hell
@@JtheBOSSIt’s almost as if it’s a Fanmade story revolving around the humans actually being relevant
I like the idea that beast came from chi-chis side of the family
@@JtheBOSS There is no reason chichi wouldn;t have such a form as it isn't race specific and the idea of Gohan's incredible potential being inherited from his mother rather than his father is cool. I do wish there was more explanation for Yamcha's though.
@@joelsasmad where has it been said that it isn’t a saiyan specific form?
I actually think that prior to the namek saga. A lot of the fighters saw a comparable amount of growth to goku. But the major difference was the mindset and how much they were willing to push themselves( and ancient alien prophecy, but let’s ignore that for now). I don’t think everyone worked as hard as goku did to achieve the power they got. Like how krillin admitted that he gets scared by villains in super, causing him to flee or let someone else take care of it, or how Yamaha has no interest in training. Piccolo is training but he’s always been relavent, and if we ignore forms, then he would be on somewhat equal footing
The thing is that the human z fighers seemed to be on the path of being relevant until the android arc. They actually managed to catch up to the likes of raditz's power level within a year through training alone. Meaning, they had entirely surpassed goku and piccolo individually by the time the saiyans arrive. I think that's insane.
It sucks toriyama discarded them...
giving piccolo kaioken was fking genius tbh and it makes so much sense.
Ty for making the full story homie
I GOT HEARTED LETS GOOOOO
The only reason that tein can’t be possessed is his third eye there’s no space for the M
Giving Yamcha the love he deserves!
Yes finally I was waiting on the full story on this, one of my favourite’s keep up the amazing work man 👍
1:09:06 HAHAHAHAAHHHAHAAHHHHHHHHHAH! THIS IS HILARIOUS! THE HAIRLINE IS SO MUCH WORSE THAT I COULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED!
This version of Universe 7 is just, broken.
Also, that final family combo was pretty epic and I LOVE how everyone has truly unique forms!
I love yamcha's design on the thumbnail ❤😮
its really cool seeing all the new forms but I cant help but giggle at hearing about a full power cell getting dogged on by the z fighters and everyones like "ayo let me jump in I want to fight too" like he was already probably gonna lose with piccolo, yamcha and roshi, more people just keep coming in to wait for their turn lol
Also, kinda funny that cell didn’t actually do anything wrong, he kinda just wanted to fight but then got eradicated.
Would have LOVED for Chi-Chi to get more of an arc leading up to her beast mode beyond “don’t worry, I haven’t forgotten about her,” because it didn’t feel earned in the slightest. THAT SAID, there were a LOT of moving parts to this series, and giving everyone the spotlight while still keeping each part in a reasonable length is a challenge. Overall, this was a really interesting take on this concept. I’d love to see how others handle it and how they’d give different folks the spotlight.
2:58 for Master Roshi I thought you were going to go into the pseudo Ultra Instinct thing for him; being a very smart defensive fighter with UI-lite abilities.
Funny enough could've just made Yamcha a full blown werewolf since they are canon from Dragon Ball if I remember correctly.
I love the thumbnails you make for the full stories. They are SO GOOD! Sometimes even after I’ve watched the whole story I click on these just because it looks so cool 😂
The concept of Beast Gohan is really interesting. It's clearly not just another level of SS, but it works much the same way, just with an absolutely insane multiplier. Furthermore, we know from the canon events that at least one rare form of SS exists that both Broly and his universe 6 rule 63 counterpart have access to.
Now onto the topic of humans. Of course we've all heard IRL stories of mothers lifting cars/trucks off their children after unfortunate accidents gaining seemingly impossible strength for a brief moment to try and save their progeny. There are similar stories of situations where otherwise unimpressive people perform feats of strength that surpass logic. We know that this is because we as humans don't use our full strength pretty much most of the time, as the strain on our bodies would be too great. Adrenaline and the rage that often accompanies it break through our normal limits on using it, though the toll on our bodies is intense.
Though it has never been officially confirmed by Toriyama or anyone else high up in the Dragon Ball canon decision-making hierarchy, but what if Beast is just an extension of that? Since SS already has an exceedingly rare variant in whatever they're officially calling the Broly type these days, I remember when it was LSS but haven't kept up on everything. What I'm suggesting is that Yamcha's transformation in this "What If" AU could be something like Broly's SS, but applied to Beast rather than SS, losing some of the general boost to specialize more like a particular animal the user has a connection with. Obviously in Yamcha's case that'd be a wolf, but this variant of Beast could apply to almost any other animal depending on who else unlocked it. Could definitely see Krillin in the future of this AU unlocking a turtle-like variation that massively boosts his ability to tank hits without really affecting his offense except for maybe a slight increase.
In the dbs broly movie, broly was said to be pure of heart two times. The first time was when cheelai and lemo heard broly talk about his childhood, and the second time was when Gogeta used the Stardust Breaker/Soul Punisher on Broly as we see the next scene. Broly was unharmed from it, showing us that Broly was pure of heart.
Vegeta would also most likely master ultra ego very easily in this scenario because his lack of empathy for others is still kinda there
This is definitely one of my favorite scenarios, probably not far off from What If Goku Was Evil in terms of creative liberties and unique additions. I will also never get over Vegeta's pro gamer move of teleporting the Androids in front of the Spirit Bomb.
Call this bad boy Dragon Ball Z-Fighters.
15:20 Tall Krillin isn't real, he can't hurt yo-
"Destructo Disk!"
Forget it! RUN!
I love the concept with roshi just think about it now he's basically the mortal Kombat Raiden equivalent to this world he can train Earth's defenders forever
I love the idea of gohans rage boost/beast form coming from chichis blood. Shes always getting mad and her dad is the OX king so having a beast form makes sense.. the power of the ox
Always happy to see our heroes get buffed, saiyan or not 👌🏿
Raditz was like "THEY JUMPIN ME, THEY JUMPIN ME"
Love the thumbnail Salad. Keep up the awesome work.❤❤❤
Absolutely phenomenal, love the way you did this what if scenerio. The name for Yamchas form "Alpha" got a chuckle out of me, but it definitely is fitting. My only gripe is how Yamcha and bulna didn't have kids so no new characters came about but still very very good. This is probably my favorite what if video ive seen so far (and funnily enough its my first watch from your content) definitely gonna check out some of your other vids.
Sigma Male Yamcha will be his next transformation
@@Morgan_of_the_Maxilla You are aware that "sigma male" is just a fancy word for "incel", right?
He did mention "Trunks" at 01:33:00, so maybe Yamcha and Bulma did have a son after all?
@@ilikecookies9796 Lol, lmao even.
Way to out yourself as a man hater.
@@asdergold1 Pointing out incels using terms that make no sense is in no way hating men in general.
Unless you somehow think all men are incels.
This was such a great story and so heartwarming too ❤
Look boys, a 2 hour blessing from the lord
Perfect direction for this story. If there are more arcs after this, I'd love to see a continuation. Honestly, this is superior to the original story in my book.
Yajirobe is OP. Of he trained like them he would easily be the stongest human and maybe on par with piccolo. He does zero training and was still able to keep up with them at the beginning. He would still be overshadowed bur he would be the strongest human.
I mean, you aren't wrong, pretty sure he was as strong as the other humans in the Saiyan Saga, who had been training basically their entire lives. This means that with just a little training, as early on in the story as the Saiyan Saga, he surpassed Raditz's power level.
@@stevendemel5869 he did no training. Even with popo's training, he just sat there.
@@Gashnaw damn, Yajirobe is op, stronger than Raditz with little to no training. That's a huge feat for the Saiyan Saga.
@@stevendemel5869stronger than frieza potential 💀
He is under constant weight training, under his protective layer he is pure muscle.
I know it seems like I never commented on you vids Salad but I’m a big fan and I support👍❤️
41:50 I was like "yamcha now goes super saiyan and solos frieza smh" and then after that, my man actually gave yamcha a transformation that was kinda beating up frieza, i swear i literally died because i called that XD
Here's an odd but relevant question. When saiyans give birth, do they get a zenkai boost from it?
Depends on the child birth ig. I imagine birth complications that they end up recovering from would have that intended effect, but normal childbirth wouldn't
That'd be a funny way to enforce procreation in the species
The crazy thing is: I think Yamcha actually _would_ grow like a Saiyan if he actually pushed himself as hard as they do.
This is one of the best What If scenarios I've seen yet, especially since we get to see Yamcha evolve in a way we never thought possible! Outstanding job!
An idea I would have liked would have been the Z fighters as a whole learning and mastering spirit control like they all have flight and ki blasts, with Yamcha in particular excelling at it as he envisions his spirit as a fierce wolf that has been fighting alongside him all this time. Learning to manifest his aura into wolf-like claws and fangs he gains an equivelent of a transformation signifigantly strengthening his physical attacks and later on could either manifest it as an etirey seperate stand-like entity or fuse the projection into his body to acheive a far more powerful physical wolf-like transformation.
I must say, Yamcha is great guy. Im glad he got some power up, and stop his being as deadweight.
Marvel has the Avengers
DC has the Justice League
Dragon Ball has the Z-Fighters
AMAZING! THE STORY HAS A GREAT PLOT AND I LIKE HOW CELL CAME BY THE END OF IT. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, SALAD SAYIAN!
Everyone got Senkai
Villians: WTF is in the water of this Planet?!?!?!
Water... Just water 👀
Frieza: I'm tired of them putting chemicals in water that turns the humans strong!
ALPHA YAMCHA IS AWESOME!!! Always glad to see my favorite scar faced Bandit getting some much deserved love!
Missed opportunity: not so nice piccolo could have injured himself as Ginyu before switching bodies. An ironic twist that wouldn't change much, but say a lot about piccolo's strategy and character during that time
4:07 Love that vine boom. 🤣 Great video! 🔥
Man, 9 minutes in, and this seems like a great What-If!
I enjoyed that so much, I realized two hours went by, That was awesome, keep it up!
Interesting thought... what do you think Captain Ginyu originally looked like? Like what if one of his previous bodies was Recoome or something? He just subdued him and made him swear fealty. Also, is Recoome human or what? I feel like a Ginyu back story would be pretty interesting.
These what if stories got my imagination running full tilt
No one asked but I absolutely LOVE the idea of Zenkai boosts, it rewards actually fighting, since fighting is basically just training but way more dangerous.
In this whole thing, the Special Beam Canon, my favorite attack, never gets used.
“What if the DBZ writing was better and more well rounded”: The Video
Yamcha the wolf demigod yamcha the wolf bandit yesssirr⚡️
51:20 I assume Bulma's still at the check in station trying to comprehend the fact that she infact is dead, cause it all happened so fast. Unlike everyone else who died out, she just was there one minute, bright flash and next thing she knew, surrounded by bright yellow clouds at a strange castle place. probably unaware she was insta-vaporized until it's explained at the check-in station.
Honestly that’s how most people die in DBZ, one moment they’re minding their own business then some super powerful being flicks their finger and they’re suddenly in line with everyone else in the city.
I’ve been watching the episodes for quite a bit of time, about time it became a full story vid 🙏🙏
I think Broly could be considered righteous or at the very least he isn't remotely near being evil.
This was such a blast to watch! Love all the story choices made here and everyone just getting so much stronger
always a joy seeing the rest of the z-fighters get some love
edit: i just came up with a what-if idea, and decided to throw it in here: what if the android/cell saga happened after the buu saga? like, if gero saw how powerful goku was after returning from namek and decided to wait way longer to enact his plan just to be safe, and it could be explained as a side effect of trunks time travelling. i feel like that'd be a pretty neat one to explore
Probably my most favorite since it give’s almost everyone something unique and well written hope the next what if series is your version if Napa survived but in your way instead of masako
Buff Krillin isn't real. He can not hurt you.
15:17 Buff Krillin:
I really love that you keep us up to date on every character's power level as the story goes on