Why Don't Ships Speak English?

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  • @CasualNavigation
    @CasualNavigation  ปีที่แล้ว +51

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    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      any chance for subtitles?

    • @marcinkoacz4580
      @marcinkoacz4580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Radiotelegraphy ;)

    • @CaptainBill22
      @CaptainBill22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      VHF is pretty limited in terms of range, do ships use HF radios for longer range communications?

    • @umi3017
      @umi3017 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does speakely came with Standard Maritime Communication Phrases?

    • @k53847
      @k53847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CaptainBill22 Yes, but it's complex as to what you need to carry based on where you go, and a lot of what used to use HF now uses Inmarsat.

  • @therealtony2009
    @therealtony2009 ปีที่แล้ว +550

    My favorite ships communicate by getting really really close and telling secrets!

    • @kanalname5996
      @kanalname5996 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A lot of secrets must have been told to the Empress of Ireland

    • @wayanjonathanschiwietz2486
      @wayanjonathanschiwietz2486 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      But...But... loose lips sink ships

    • @ABVollen
      @ABVollen ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aah, that's why the helge instad hit the sola TS, they just tried to say hello

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wayanjonathanschiwietz2486 That is only in port during wartime :)

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Okay, technically speaking sending Radio transmissions will also sink your ship during wartime. But then it is more "loose send buttons" then lips.

  • @megamihestia4049
    @megamihestia4049 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Now thinking about it, flag language is essentially how modern video games allow players from different countries to communicate. Emotes or auto-translate in some games are basically flags that’s carrying predetermined agreed upon messages.

    • @Bobo-ox7fj
      @Bobo-ox7fj ปีที่แล้ว

      Although there is probably a significantly higher proportion of "nice one dickhead" and "fuck you" than you would typically see at sea

    • @Kurochana
      @Kurochana ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🗿

    • @notNajimi
      @notNajimi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And my teammates still don’t fucking follow directions

    • @ShiftyMcGoggles
      @ShiftyMcGoggles 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      rock and stone!

    • @thespiffingman
      @thespiffingman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did I hear a rock and stone?!@@ShiftyMcGoggles

  • @rebellsky5948
    @rebellsky5948 ปีที่แล้ว +2077

    But how did they communicate with flags back in the day when the world was only black and white? 🤨

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      shapes and pictures

    • @Prbkkb
      @Prbkkb ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Haha

    • @The-model-builder06
      @The-model-builder06 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      They didn’t they used two things 1:Marconi wireless system 2: Morse lamp

    • @fahamedi
      @fahamedi ปีที่แล้ว +36

      stripes, my friend, and the platonic forms

    • @Jacob-W-5570
      @Jacob-W-5570 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      and that is exactly why the flags have all the different patterns! with different light/dark colour choises inside simular patters. You can actually identify the flags if you "go back to the black and white era"

  • @stewieatb
    @stewieatb ปีที่แล้ว +160

    It would take far too long to dig out the tweet where someone originally told this story, but it goes something like this:
    "When at school I was in the Sea Cadets. On camp one year, one of the lads was caught giving himself a seeing to in the barracks. Thereafter he got the nickname 'Zulu', from the code flag meaning 'I require a tug'."

    • @quillmaurer6563
      @quillmaurer6563 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Surely they never lived that down. Afterwards when others asked him how he got that he probably made up a different story, or just said "They just started calling me that."

    • @cc-to
      @cc-to ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Heck, that would beat "I am maneuvering with difficulty" T-shirt I got years ago at a boat show. Could print the two on inside and outside and just flip the shirt inside-out at the appropriate time of the evening.

  • @Aengus42
    @Aengus42 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    I used to live in Brixham, Devon. The lifeboat station, when it was about to launch, would let off two rockets that you could hear as bangs & at night you'd see a white flash too.
    That was the signal for me to tune my scanner into the small ships safety channel 67.
    I've heard some amazing rescues! Plus the air sea rescue helicopter "Whisky Bravo". Their callsign always made me smile as it just had to stand for "Whirly-Bird" 😆

    • @zaddicus
      @zaddicus ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I used to live in Brixham, moved to Wales but my grandparents lived there for many years until they moved to goodrington... Such a lovely town where people knew SOS meant save our souls... Unlike the creator of this video...
      The museum in the harbour was also pretty cool... Actual ship used during the east indea trading period

    • @liquidiced
      @liquidiced ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I live in Torquay, regularly visiting Brixham! My friend and I walk along the breakwater, sometimes waving at the returning fishing vessels ⚓️

    • @a_stone
      @a_stone ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@zaddicus Yeah or you could just do a quick google and find this instead of being a dumbarse.
      "SOS, when it was first agreed upon by the International Radio Telegraphic Convention in 1906, was merely a distinctive Morse code sequence and was initially not an abbreviation."
      Officially it does not stand for anything. It's not an acronym, but a backronym. It was chosen because it is extremely distinctive when broadcasted in Morse code and unmistakable when viewed visually as well.

    • @TheClintonio
      @TheClintonio ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@zaddicus This is literally not true. "Save our Souls" is a backronym as another user said. Don't be so confidently wrong. Sure it might have adopted that meaning now, but it's NOT the original intent of the use of the letters S O S.

    • @Aengus42
      @Aengus42 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zaddicus Hey! Nice to meet you. My grandparents lived in Goodrington too! Stabb Drive, near the shop & post office. I spent a lot of time there as a kid.
      Recently, I visited Brixham & drove to my Nan's bungalow. Hasn't changed a bit! Except the post office is now a take-away.
      I'm still achingly homesick. I lived in Brixham for years and love that little town.
      Joni was right, you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone!
      You're right about the SOS thing! That really surprised me! And this guy is taking his ticket for ship's captain?
      Keep safe mate 😃

  • @Deadonstick
    @Deadonstick ปีที่แล้ว +659

    Small correction. The communication method described at 4:50 isn't simplex; it's half-duplex.
    Simplex is one-way only, period.
    Half-duplex is two-way; but only one at a time.
    Full-duplex is two-way; two at a time.
    Simplex communication would render one ship a permanent receiver and the other a permanent sender.

    • @MisterMcHaos
      @MisterMcHaos ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Ah - I'm not the *only* one who wondered about. (It bugs me that Pratchett cited "co-axial" instead of "full duplex" in his books when referring to the "clacks".)

    • @Draftmission
      @Draftmission ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Went to the comments to look for this one. Totally right!

    • @christosgklezos
      @christosgklezos ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Actually it is wrong. What is demonstrated at the video is indeed simplex and full duplex. Half duplex is when you have a shore station that communicates with a ship radio that is of low complexity typically handheld or small craft where you only have one antenna. At that point you can’t use full duplex as both stations need 2 antennas to use full duplex. However what happens is you use the channels that are for use in full duplex and the ship station switches frequencies between transmission and reception. When you push the push to talk you use the ship transmission frequency and the shore station can hear you and as soon as you release it you switch to the shore transmission frequency. The result is the same experience as a simplex, however you can use the radio on the channels that are programmed for full duplex

    • @Draftmission
      @Draftmission ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@christosgklezos Nah, the result isn't the same experience as simplex. Simplex is by definition one way only. If you can transmit and recieve, but not at the same time, it is half duplex. If you use 2 channels and 2 antennas you can experience full duplex.

    • @beardedchimp
      @beardedchimp ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@Draftmission I thought had I a pretty good understanding of RF terminology, but seeing this confusion made me realise it isn't quite as simplex.

  • @Hobbyblasphemist
    @Hobbyblasphemist ปีที่แล้ว +56

    What I found funny whilst at sea was reading emails where non native speakers had picked up very odd English phrases and just used them constantly. “For your perusal” and “for the sake of good order” we’re found in almost every email I saw.

    • @Dhalgrim
      @Dhalgrim ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Work at a german port auhority and Yes I get e-mails like this on the daily 🤣 “To whom it may concern” is another classic 😅

    • @Hobbyblasphemist
      @Hobbyblasphemist ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dhalgrim I’ve been through Bremerhaven, Wilhelmshaven and Hamburg, no doubt youll have had a shit email off of one of my ships at some point!

    • @Bobo-ox7fj
      @Bobo-ox7fj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every few years Standardized Hopeless Indian Telescammer English gets an upgrade with similarly off the wall phrases that suddenly appear all over the place...

    • @sudonim7552
      @sudonim7552 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Dhalgrim "To whom it may concern" is a fairly common mail and email greeting in the US when you are sending a message to an organization or group of people, in which case only some people in the organization may find your mail relevant, but you don't know who specifically they are.
      Using "to whom it concern" allows the addressee to remain open ended, but still specific in that it only applies to those who find your message to be relevant.

    • @hondahirny
      @hondahirny 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not maritime related, but I’d often get the “do the needful” phrase in emails for some foreign coworkers. I guess it means “do what is needed” or something like that. Just a bit confusing to us ‘Mericans. 😂

  • @wraithcadmus
    @wraithcadmus ปีที่แล้ว +45

    My favourite flag code is "I wish to communicate with you in Norwegian" - ZA7

    • @a_stone
      @a_stone ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah it's so they can Scandinavian.
      Ba dum tssssssss

    • @jamesmccann531
      @jamesmccann531 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@a_stone you just saw the word Norwegian and then proceeded to butcher the joke about the barcodes on their ships...

    • @a_stone
      @a_stone ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jamesmccann531 Has you've considered that perhaps part of the joke is implying that the ships have barcodes on them? No?

    • @plusplusplusplusp
      @plusplusplusplusp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      'What's the Norwegian for "Oh cock"?'

  • @trinomial-nomenclature
    @trinomial-nomenclature ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My father was an offshore fisherman in Nova Scotia, he retired a few years ago, and they still use VHF to communicate to one another and I think to shore as well.

    • @owlbuquerqueturkey
      @owlbuquerqueturkey ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My dad is a communications officer in the Coast Guard Auxiliary, and they absolutely still use VHF. Also, I watched a video of a new navy ship coming into the Duluth, MN harbor to be commissioned, and the video had audio of radio communication between the ship and another vessel, and the ship and the lift bridge it had to pass under to enter the harbor.

  • @sminthian
    @sminthian ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I work with these kinds of maritime wordings. The two versions of rules are "shall" and "may". Shall means you need to do it. May means you can do it, but don't need to.

  • @Deltarious
    @Deltarious ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My favourite naval communication is to sail in columns with 23 other ships manned by my friends and to signal them Equal Speed, Charlie, London to ask them to move into a single battle line

  • @oneilmw
    @oneilmw ปีที่แล้ว +7

    0:55 Never would I have guessed that HW6 means "I have collided with an iceberg." Such useful life advice. It's so applicable!

  • @abrr2000
    @abrr2000 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I was always taught that SOS stands for "Save Our Souls"

    • @Thori45
      @Thori45 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here

    • @Tzizenorec
      @Tzizenorec ปีที่แล้ว +24

      A backronym. It's not a bad interpretation.

    • @Jack_The_Ripper_Here
      @Jack_The_Ripper_Here ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s Save Our Ship !!! But whatever

    • @abrr2000
      @abrr2000 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Jack_The_Ripper_Here for several reasons, no it doesn't.
      That is just ONE of the things people think it stands for, but is actually just a way to help you remember it.
      The SOS signal was introduced by the germans (who don't speak english) and was chosen to stand out from normal morse code trafic. The letters don't actually stand for anything. And this is important, because that way the meaning of SOS transcends language. So much so that people who are illiterate in morse code can still send and understand the meaning of this message.
      What SOS actually means in english is... "Help, I'm in trouble and need saving. Send help!"

    • @garyyoung3179
      @garyyoung3179 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Similarly I understood the old CQD stood for Come Quick Distress

  • @baileywright1656
    @baileywright1656 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    How timely! I am almost finished a cross stitch of my daughter's name in signal flags! I have always thought they were neat. I even have a 6 foot Whiskey flag off an old canaler hanging up in my office. I remember being a kid and pouring over the page in our big old dictionary that had them. For some reason, India always creeped me out.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @JonathanKayne
    @JonathanKayne ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Massive respect for saying "dit" and "dah" instead of dot and dash.

    • @MisterMcHaos
      @MisterMcHaos ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Although only the *last* dot is usually voiced as "dit"; the others are "di" because that's how CW sounds. EG, the S0S should've been "di-di-di-dah-dah-dah-di-di-dit". (SOS should have a bar over it denoting no inter-letter gap.)

    • @JonathanKayne
      @JonathanKayne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MisterMcHaos if we really want to get into this, he got the rhythm for CQD wrong.

  • @jaquigreenlees
    @jaquigreenlees ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ship to shore connections to telephone system were in use locally until well into the 1980s. My dad had a multichannel handheld vhf unit ( first one ever actually, custom built for him ) for his job as a shipping agent and we regularly talked with him on the system until cell phones came out.

    • @tonys1636
      @tonys1636 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When car phones first appeared mid 60's one had to be connected by a telephone operator the same one that connected the ship to shore phones. Only available London and Birmingham at first 25 mile (approx) from center of each. 01 and 02 numbers and a unique exchange number which when dialled connected one to this operator.

    • @seanworkman431
      @seanworkman431 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was in the middle of Bass Straight between the Australian mainland and the southern Island of Tasmania and got a ship to shore call from my Dad. I don't how many times I had to remind him to say 'over'.

    • @jaquigreenlees
      @jaquigreenlees ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seanworkman431 yup I hear ya on that.
      Though having used the system growing up did help me when it came to get my marine radio license, the proper procedures were already a habit.

    • @seanworkman431
      @seanworkman431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaquigreenlees same, I won't let anyone near the radio if I'm around, makes my ears bleed when I hear some of the nonsense.

    • @Dhalgrim
      @Dhalgrim ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@seanworkman431 We have a colleague (german port authority and traffic control for two ports). He has the habit of ending with “Tschüssi”… basically means “buh-bye” in German.
      For ease and swiftness of procedure we do skip some steps (3 times repeating and so on) but some professionality should still be in place.
      Especially the police and customs just looooove to hear unprofessional radio chatter and be pissy about it 😅

  • @CLipka2373
    @CLipka2373 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:14 - Many people don't realize, but not only does "SOS" not stant for anything in particular - that three-letter combination is *NOT EVEN THE ACTUAL DISTRESS SIGNAL* .
    You see, morse code requires pauses to indicate the end of one letter and the beginning of the next (ideally exactly long enough that another dot could fit in there). The actual letter sequence "SOS" would have such pauses, but the distress signal does NOT - the entire distress signal has the rank of a single letter, comprised of nine symbols stringed together with particular pauses.
    Funnily enough, you got this detail just the wrong way round, for BOTH the international distress signal AND the older CQD: While the distress signal as a whole is just one huge pseudo-letter (but you erroneously depict it with pauses), the CQD signal was a "shorthand" comprised of three distinctive proper letters, and therefore should have the letter separator pauses (which you erroneously omitted).

  • @bilbolagginz8493
    @bilbolagginz8493 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Im in the navy and work as a radioman, cool to see you talk about some of my job.

  • @nothing9260
    @nothing9260 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Daaaamn, that sponsor transition was smoooth af

  • @allanmonroe692
    @allanmonroe692 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Deck officers aren't required to have the the various flag signals memorized. However, there is a requirement to have a copy of the International Code of Signals or a similar reference available on the bridge. That being said, most of us could still probably name at least half from memory.

  • @AnonOmis1000
    @AnonOmis1000 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I'm kinda surprised airplanes don't use that two frequency system. I've heard a lot of accident reports where one of the factors was two people trying to transmit at the same time.

    • @ying20000818
      @ying20000818 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Sure, two frequency system works if both ATC and a pilot tries to transmit concurrently but what if two pilots try to communicate concurrently? Yup, still same issue, one will block the other.

    • @scarletlightning565
      @scarletlightning565 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      As stated, duplex channels only work when both stations agree on who gets to transmit on each half. Aircraft get around the issue by using simplex combined with doctrin and discipline. Any FAA or CASA (US or AU, others might differ) licenced pilot is required to be trained specifically in the use of aviation VHF which includes knowing the standard brevity phrases, structure and pattern of coms. Basically its a call and response "who im talking to, who i am, what I want" system. All pilots are expected to show discipline and not make unnecessary or overly long transmissions. Problems do occur but they're very rare.
      Plus using simplex allows aircraft to communicate directly without going through a ground controller, very useful when there isn't one (middle of nowhere or small airstrips) or one aircraft is out of range of the controller and another repeats the calls for them

    • @AnonOmis1000
      @AnonOmis1000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ying20000818 fair point

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting case is our county fire dispatch. Though I believe it’s simplex (though repeater), county can override any communication, almost always due to stuck radios.

    • @quillmaurer6563
      @quillmaurer6563 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@scarletlightning565 The issue with "don't make overly long radio broadcasts" is when a captain accidentally makes their speech to the passengers over the radio rather than PA. They then face the highest form of punishment possible to any pilot: Public humiliation and controller-sanctioned roasting by other pilots. I have seen videos of this.

  • @vinnyjhawer7847
    @vinnyjhawer7847 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love your content, its always clear and concise. Oh, and your illustrations are excellent making things easier to understand. Look forward to your newest content.

  • @karstendoerr5378
    @karstendoerr5378 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    SOS later acquired a meaning, it was interpreted as "Save Our Souls". But there is also the interpretation with "Save Our Ship".

    • @dmitrynikolaev5743
      @dmitrynikolaev5743 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah, that's only a memorizing technique.

    • @karstendoerr5378
      @karstendoerr5378 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@dmitrynikolaev5743 They are backronyms. A backronym is a word whose individual graphemes are subsequently interpreted as the initial letters of words and combined in their entirety to form a word group. Backronym is a portmanteau word made up of back and acronym.

    • @tonys1636
      @tonys1636 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The dash dash dash dot dot dot dash dash dash was easier to hear clearly when a lot of static present as would be during an electrical storm.

    • @vaakdemandante8772
      @vaakdemandante8772 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Souls you say... so a prayer is fine then, no need for a life-raft and all that jazz, roger that ;)

    • @karstendoerr5378
      @karstendoerr5378 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tonys1636 Right. As the first radio telegraphic distress signal (FT distress call) in the history of seafaring, the British Marconi International Marine Communication Company introduced the letter group CQD in Morse code. This was more complex and also allowed for errors due to its length. But there is also an interpreter for CQD: "Come quickly danger".

  • @robertsteinbach7325
    @robertsteinbach7325 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Half-Duplex voice channels users can use "Over" after each party is through talking, much like a period in a written sentence. That gives a chance for each party to use the channel as needed without collisions. This protocol is sometimes used in CB radio channels. It also minimizes the training needed to use half-duplex voice channels.

  • @VAM_Physics_and_Engineering
    @VAM_Physics_and_Engineering ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found that visual of the radio frequency slowly going upwards until it completed the circuit incredibly satisfying

  • @peterspangenberg7193
    @peterspangenberg7193 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pilots in the former british empire speak often english to the tower or to other pilots, but in former sowjet Asia and eastern Europe pilots commonly speak russian. Mayor airports there can understand english too, but if you call smaller airports in english language - good luck!

  • @vj.joseph
    @vj.joseph ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really love watching your youtube videos. You are a very smart, honest person. Thank you so so much for sharing all these enlightening knowledge to everyone in the world.😊😊😊

  • @johncopenhaver4311
    @johncopenhaver4311 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every sailors favorite flag is red and yellow 🇧🇹 kinda like that without the dragon in the middle. "Oscah". It's the man overboard flag that you hope to see if you fall into the Sea.

  • @mikesgr854
    @mikesgr854 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The communication is not "simplex", is "half-duplex".
    Simplex is the radio station you tune in your car. You cannot transmit.
    Half duplex is when both parts can transmit but not at the same time.

    • @techheck3358
      @techheck3358 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      in a maritime context, its common to use simplex to mean half-duplex

    • @JonathanKayne
      @JonathanKayne ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In amateur radio, we would consider it simplex as well. Half-duplex is more of a term when you are dealing with wired data communication like serial.

  • @theuniongovernment997
    @theuniongovernment997 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. This video just taught me that a cell phone is basically just two walkie talkies taped together but set to different frequencies.

  • @zachjones6944
    @zachjones6944 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This brings back good memories. I've had the pleasure of communicating using VHF at-sea.

  • @shedactivist
    @shedactivist ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great topic. A follow up with Direct selective Calling DSC VHF and GMDSS communications would be fascinating

    • @JM-lk6wo
      @JM-lk6wo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DSC, acronym for Digital Selective Calling. Back in the day, I installed and commissioned many GMDSS outfits, mostly on offshore oil field work boats.

  • @Thefreakyfreek
    @Thefreakyfreek ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I live on a boat and here in Holland evry single major city is build around a river you can sail on and evry single city has some for of port
    Some only sand
    Heck a lot of villages also have a rivver connection
    And I can assure you. VHF comunecation is still in full use all the time
    And not just ship to schip. But also weather report. Bridges and sluises

  • @Ever_2008_ARG
    @Ever_2008_ARG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hearing CN saying "ditditdit dadada ditditdit" is oddly satisfying

  • @rupertthedrone4717
    @rupertthedrone4717 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I ended up learning all the letters and most meanings of the flags because of a communication error (ironic) but used a really good app called maritime academy (they also do a morse code app)

    • @TOBAPNW_
      @TOBAPNW_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what was the error?

    • @rupertthedrone4717
      @rupertthedrone4717 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TOBAPNW_ i thought my tutor told me to learn all of them for a test we had, turns out we didn't and he meant one of the tests for officer cadets 😂

  • @MrsGozdzikova
    @MrsGozdzikova ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is absolutnego fascinating. Do more about this subject if you can.

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What's absolutenego?

    • @zaddicus
      @zaddicus ปีที่แล้ว

      Pick a nautical topic and I can find you a much better video and channel that this fuckery that doesn't even know S.O.S has a meaning

    • @MrsGozdzikova
      @MrsGozdzikova ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mirzaahmed6589 a stupid autocorrect xD

  • @pimprijs5358
    @pimprijs5358 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Vhf only has a range of 20/30nm so if you want to transmit any further
    You also have the Mf/Hf transmitter (medium/high frequency) these travel a lot further (Hf world wide) but are a little old school
    Nowadays satelites are being used to contact these further stations (inmarsat and Iridium)

    • @bluesbest1
      @bluesbest1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Um, "range of 20/30nm" confuses me, and not just in a "I'm an American, decimals are weird" way. "nm" is "nanometers", as in 1/1,000,000,000 of a meter. Even if you meant to say "mm", that's still "millimeter", which puts the range to about an inch rather than one thousandth of an inch, that's still a lower range than turning your head and talking.

    • @pimprijs5358
      @pimprijs5358 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bluesbest1 nautical miles 😁

    • @techheck3358
      @techheck3358 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bluesbest1 this is a channel about the sea & ocean. in this context, nm means nautical miles

    • @JoostvanDriel4
      @JoostvanDriel4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bluesbest1 nm: nautical miles i presume. And the range is very dependant on how high your antenna is and if you have the power to transmit that all the way. Basically it is just line of sight.

    • @frederiknielsen6038
      @frederiknielsen6038 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's worth noting that HF is only world wide in theory. It's not always possible to get through, depending on your chosen frequnecy and atmospheric conditions.

  • @LoveHandle4890
    @LoveHandle4890 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Telepathy of course.

  • @AlexandarHullRichter
    @AlexandarHullRichter ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like how you implied that Americans and British people can't talk to each other.

    • @gerardmdelaney
      @gerardmdelaney ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The line attributed to either Churchill or G. B. Shaw is "one people separated by a common language"

  • @randbarrett8706
    @randbarrett8706 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way the advertisement duration indicator is implemented

  • @RichardPhillips10
    @RichardPhillips10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe a seperate vid on DSC - and indeed SSB / MF/SW - the GDSS system would also be a good subject to cover if you have not done it already.

  • @archimedesbird3439
    @archimedesbird3439 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the two methods of communication you listed are half-duplex and full-duplex
    Simplex means one party can only ever transmit and the other party can only ever receive

    • @somebod8703
      @somebod8703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had me thinking, too.

    • @christosgklezos
      @christosgklezos ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope

    • @somebod8703
      @somebod8703 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I looked it up. Depending on the domain, it's sometimes called "simplex" and sometimes "half-duplex". I knew it as "half-duplex" as well, but apparently, in the domain of ship radio communication, the term "simplex" is used.

  • @nativeafroeurasian
    @nativeafroeurasian ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1. Question: Do you have advice on how to learn the frequencies (I struggle with that)
    2. Request: Please make a video about celestial navigation (noon position and three star position in particular)

    • @quillmaurer6563
      @quillmaurer6563 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I get the sense that you don't really need to memorize frequencies with maritime as they use channels that correlate to frequencies, similar to TV and some walkie-talkies. Aviation and AM/FM radio (at least in the US) use frequencies. As for learning them, I'd suggest making yourself a cheat-sheet, you'll learn the ones you use often fairly quickly just by using them.

    • @nativeafroeurasian
      @nativeafroeurasian ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@quillmaurer6563 Thank you, that should help :) I currently study this and we have to know them (I assume in case the VHF radio (with the channels) breaks down and we need to use MF/HF where only frequencies can be selected))

    • @quillmaurer6563
      @quillmaurer6563 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nativeafroeurasian Ah - sounds like they're asking you to memorize an infrequently used thing that experienced mariners might not have memorized. I hate requirements like that.

    • @cc-to
      @cc-to ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@quillmaurer6563 Yeah, you never need to know that ch 16 is 160-whatever-point-something unless you're tuning it to monitor it on a scanner or one of the imported open-tuning handhelds, which are not legal to transmit from on these frequencies. More important to know which of the other channels are legal to switch to, in a given area, to continue a conversation.

  • @EIGYRO
    @EIGYRO 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I was at sea (70s), one-way only transmission was called broadcast. Two-way alternating on the same frequency was simplex, and two-way simultaneous on a channel-pair was duplex. Looks like my radio school got it wrong. 😑

  • @alexanderSydneyOz
    @alexanderSydneyOz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Trivia: Not only does SOS not stand for anything, the morse code referred to as "SOS" is sent as one string of 9 dits/dahs. So it isn't the letters S-O-S, as individual letters are separated by a short space. Instead, the same string of 9 could be broken up as IJS, VGI, SMB, or others.

    • @jamesbuckle6077
      @jamesbuckle6077 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've never seen it used in a real emergency. But I've no idea why it would be transmitted without short pauses, they are millisecond pauses so no reason why not. Where are you getting that info?

  • @qwertyTRiG
    @qwertyTRiG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know the flags mostly from reading a lot of _Swallows & Amazons_ as a child.

  • @patlager2110
    @patlager2110 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m enjoying your A/B testing of different title and thumbnail combinations

  • @lewisbons2503
    @lewisbons2503 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what may be a good video? One talking about time keeping on a ship. Before pocket watches and the relationship between this and global position

  • @nuclearbeaver96
    @nuclearbeaver96 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite flag signal is Mike Mike Papa (MMP), worth showing first trip cadets when they first join!

  • @johantaube3022
    @johantaube3022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact: the old Nokia phones default SMS notification sound is morse for "SMS"
    . . . - - . . .

  • @infinitecanadian
    @infinitecanadian ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No director's commentary video was present.

  • @Danieloncarevic
    @Danieloncarevic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "GOLF" is actually rarely used in practice, as well as most of the signal flags nowadays. I guess "BRAVO" could be mentioned as a flag hoisted any time a vessel is bunkering fuel or discharging sludge.

    • @iafozzac
      @iafozzac ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alpha, bravo, and hotel are the ones that see the most use
      Nowadays no one is going to use flags to signal an overtaking for example

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating, as always!

  • @EJL2004
    @EJL2004 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The tin foil hat really helps! XD I did see a solo kayaker wearing what looked to be a tin foil bishops hat which proved to actually provide a bit of a return on the radar, aside from us cackling away because of all the strange characters around these parts.

  • @davidodonovan1699
    @davidodonovan1699 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for this information. Brilliant work

  • @amardave84
    @amardave84 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So that's why when Earth invented the warp drive, English became the language of interstellar communication in Star Trek! 😊

  • @stephanieparker1250
    @stephanieparker1250 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the thumbnails. I’m on the fence about it. I do love seeing a cool finished thumbnail, it draws my attention. BUT.. I also love a surprise as well! Maybe you can do a special extra video twice a month that are part of a theme. Each one a surprise finish! 🎉🎉

  • @sankimalu
    @sankimalu ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you speed up the vocals within your videos? I thought I was listening to it at 1.5x! I’m guessing you felt like you had a lot to say and wanted to cram it into a short video. As always, wonderful video.

  • @barrytschirpig9328
    @barrytschirpig9328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it amusing that at 6:33 you start to talk about USA railways but show stock footage of a Russian train.

  • @Corvid
    @Corvid ปีที่แล้ว

    *Hoists Jolly Roger*
    "Bruv, you gettin' mugged innit!"

  • @glennrishton5679
    @glennrishton5679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was an AB on watch on a sea going tug pulling a loaded sea going bulk barge headed to Puerto Rico. The mate was making passing arrangements with a ship and the mate said see you red to red. The the ship was foreign and the mate there was heavily accented speaking English. I idly said after they talked something like I wonder if he really understood the mate replied we'll if he didnt that's his problem. Hmmm the ship was a hell of a lot bigger and with the barge we were slow to maneuver so seemed more like our problem. Seemed to me like saying Port to Port or Starboard to Starboard would be more prudent.

  • @Holland1994D
    @Holland1994D ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's kind of tough when you only speak one language like Americans

  • @bertrandmarion1927
    @bertrandmarion1927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From now on ,i am persuaded that the band The Police have missed the opportunity to use the name "I'll send an S.O.S to the world"" for their song "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da

  • @dylantrinder1571
    @dylantrinder1571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was always under the impression that the morse code SOS stood for “Save our souls”?

  • @KiiXii
    @KiiXii ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Because they’re ships lol?

  • @celtspeaksgoth7251
    @celtspeaksgoth7251 ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative, concise, well animated and British voiceover. Perfect.
    Avast ye scurvy knaves and prepare to be boarded ! Aaar !

  • @louisbolton7605
    @louisbolton7605 ปีที่แล้ว

    You posted this video on the day of my signals exam, what a coincidence

  • @l00k69
    @l00k69 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:44 RMS Titanic's dummy funnel was the 4th, not the 3rd one

  • @stephanieparker1250
    @stephanieparker1250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great! I learned a lot, thanks! 🎉

  • @Dhalgrim
    @Dhalgrim ปีที่แล้ว

    “You can both here anything on the channel”…
    Sadly yes.
    I work for the port authority of two ports in North Germany. For some ascinine reason our working channel is channel 15.
    The same channel as Swinouijsce Port and most ships use it as a working channel on board.
    So basically on some days (good conditions) we have constant ,for us unimportant chatter’ just droaning away. And cause our masts are more high powered we can hear them but they can’t hear us.

  • @MervynPartin
    @MervynPartin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the launch (chartered by the shipping agent for crew transport) unable to locate our ship in the fog at Galveston, we incurred the wrath of the Coastguard by attempting to contact the ship on channel 16. Normal practice had been to make contact on 16 then change to a clear channel. With the threats of prosecution, we had no choice but to head back ashore and arrange overnight accommodation for the other officers and crew.

    • @cc-to
      @cc-to ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Assuming that was Galveston TX: for some time now the US has reserved 16 for urgencies and has set aside 9 as the ship-to-ship calling channel. Vessels not offering emergency response services may (should?) not even be monitoring 16. I believe this is US only; certainly here in Canada (which has its own setting on VHF sets, since we've given a different set of freq's to the railroads) general calling *and* urgencies remain on 16. Your launch operators seriously should have known this.

  • @deltacx1059
    @deltacx1059 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine people with high pitched voices being considered illegal because the frequency their voice is at was sold to Amazon or something.

  • @SteveJB
    @SteveJB ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:21 - not sure if a face reveal.... or Casual Navigation's animation really went up a notch 7:03.

  • @themangix357
    @themangix357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about equivalent of an ATC, do ships have those in port too? 🤔

    • @pimprijs5358
      @pimprijs5358 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definetly! They are called vts stations (vessel traffic controll)

  • @stylesrj
    @stylesrj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:50
    I wonder if that particular signalling flag and code was made specifically because of the Titanic?
    Sure, ships were struck by icebergs before, but the Titanic is the most memorable Ship VS Iceberg collison.

  • @aysnov
    @aysnov ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:02 uh, radiotelePHONy literally means "transmitting voice"... For text / morse code that's radioteleGRAPHy

  • @jaroslavsevcik3421
    @jaroslavsevcik3421 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! What about thing such as International Emergency frequency? In aviation it is 121.500 MHz.

  • @theconfederacyofindependen7268
    @theconfederacyofindependen7268 ปีที่แล้ว

    SOS stands for "save our ship/send out support"

  • @joiboi5214
    @joiboi5214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a video about the sewol ferry in korea?

  • @shykitten55
    @shykitten55 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going to pull you up on a term.
    SIMPLEX. 5:08. That is fixed. One station can ONLY transmit. The other can ONLY receive.
    The correct term is HALF DUPLEX.
    Both stations can receive/transmit, but not both at the same time.

  • @maggus999
    @maggus999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simplex is unidirectional, same-frequency VHF is half-duplex!

  • @Sarge92
    @Sarge92 ปีที่แล้ว

    i always thought sos was save our souls referring to the practice of referring to people on board as souls on board

  • @adamfoster3482
    @adamfoster3482 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great topic! I have spent a long time in the aviation industry as a pilot. Before that as a soldier & now post covid as a Harbour controller. Radios have been my life & it is interesting to see rather different, yet similar methods to its application on communications. Well presented, thanks for the vid.

    • @Dhalgrim
      @Dhalgrim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Greetings to a fellow harbour controller (Two ports in North-Germany here) 👋🏻

    • @adamfoster3482
      @adamfoster3482 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gidday! Other side of the world here in New Zealand. Which ports in Germany mate?

  • @gigglesgames1
    @gigglesgames1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Chanel alone has made me want to be a Sailor so bad

  • @Phootaba
    @Phootaba ปีที่แล้ว

    So, there are still duplex channels for spontaneous calls on the high seas?
    Or do they use some other method to negotiate and establish a direct duplex communication?

  • @user-rg4sn9by7w
    @user-rg4sn9by7w ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:00 why do you think we are here, lol? To hear a knowledgeable brit ramble about all things maritime for hours

  • @starman_uk
    @starman_uk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unless I am blind I see no link for the follow on directors commentary :(

  • @xemmyQ
    @xemmyQ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i feel like this is as easy as "not everyone speaks english but everyone uses ships"

    • @shadowscall7758
      @shadowscall7758 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its not. Everyone uses airplanes, but they don't all use English, but the international aviation language is English. Ships adapted that as well.

  • @donovanulrich348
    @donovanulrich348 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    S.O.S has meaning like R.I.P
    Save Our Souls. And Rest In Peace

  • @habahabatsutsut2657
    @habahabatsutsut2657 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! I see you have/had OOW cert I guess, seeing your channel more. Are you sailing somewhere at the moment? AB here asking :)

  • @gardelitozz7184
    @gardelitozz7184 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where i can find the international code of signals 2023?? i want that PDF!! please tell me!!

  • @dorukayhanwastaken
    @dorukayhanwastaken ปีที่แล้ว

    0:43 As in a constructed language or a "mere" list of predefined meanings?

  • @frequentlycynical642
    @frequentlycynical642 ปีที่แล้ว

    Radiotelephony IS voice communications, not Morse Code. The latter is called, CW. Continuous Wave.

  • @najroe
    @najroe ปีที่แล้ว

    Golf= letter G == meaning pilot needed (Guides of the sea).
    ICOS is important, up there with colregs...

  • @damiencouturee6240
    @damiencouturee6240 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol I know its just stock footage but I got such a laugh out of the scientist studying languages with test tubes and chemicals.

  • @PsRohrbaugh
    @PsRohrbaugh ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the maritime definition for Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

  • @jean-pierredeclemy7032
    @jean-pierredeclemy7032 ปีที่แล้ว

    When connecting to the phone network I had to remind the people I was talking to via North Foreland Radio that half of the vessels in the North Sea were probably listening to our conversation whilst waiting for their turn to use the system (or just being nosy).

    • @quillmaurer6563
      @quillmaurer6563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did anyone ever butt into your conversation? I could see some funny situations like that, though also some embarrassing ones.

    • @jean-pierredeclemy7032
      @jean-pierredeclemy7032 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quillmaurer6563 Fortunately not on my watch

  • @Derekzparty
    @Derekzparty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have collided with an iceberg.
    The band is still playing.
    The band requests more brandy.

  • @LongJ22
    @LongJ22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think SOS stands for Save Our Souls