Why the Linux Desktop is Unsellable

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  • @astrobia94
    @astrobia94 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    If you want to imply you are a pirate, don't wink, just point to the eyepatch and say I'm glad I just have this and not a pegleg.

  • @ammhg8642
    @ammhg8642 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    2:19 I just accidentally formatted my hard drive in my laptop while installing ubuntu
    Its not even showing on the File system
    So I removed the hard drive immediately after i saw the issue
    Now i just want to recover my data
    I know it isn't lost because i used a disk repair software
    But, to retrive the data its charging me a lot of money

  • @marksmithcollins
    @marksmithcollins วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    People are not newborn child. They have history.
    Family problems are cannot be solved by formatting everyone and recompiling modified version of family brain kernels.
    You guys should know that.

  • @yuri-the-cockroach
    @yuri-the-cockroach วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    "You can get hdr working on arch, if you hate yourself and don't value your time"... what do you mean value my time... You mean to say that my time is actually worth something? 🤔 (arch on nvidia user)

  • @kartikpintu
    @kartikpintu วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Lets be honest, most ppl will get away with just a Chromebook as their computer. Gamers will stick to console or windows pc and productivity can be done on anything unless you use some proprietary software like final cut pro

  • @andressepter1984
    @andressepter1984 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Excellent! "00:05:46 8. Desktop Linux (s)UX" -- someone finally says it out loud. Desktop Linux UX is HORRIBLE! Totally agree. And I have 30+ IT experience and 20+ years Linux experience. I will totally not suggest desktop Linux to anyone except I suggest Mint as distro to ones already decided to switch. I have countless stories in my pocket of broken UI and unintuitive, straightforward hostile UX.

  • @swagmuffin9000
    @swagmuffin9000 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    can we actually trust a pirate tho?

  • @emperorarasaka
    @emperorarasaka วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The people who hate Windows do so primarily because it's mainstream. If Linux was mainstream, people would be out there switching to exotic Windows 11 systems.

    • @unpaidintern6652
      @unpaidintern6652 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I currently hate Android, or at least the skin that shipped with my Smartphone, more than Win11 because they both are absolutely obnoxious about shoving things I don't want down my throat. No google, I don't want Gemini in everything I do. No Microsoft, I really don't care about XBox game pass AND WHY THE FUCK DID YOU OPEN BING I WAS LOOKING FOR A FILE ON MY DESKTOP

    • @Gadtkaz
      @Gadtkaz วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's called BSD.

    • @danielperales3958
      @danielperales3958 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@GadtkazOh, wait till apple users find out about "darwin os", a relative of BSD

  • @gamagama69
    @gamagama69 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    ive been recommending how to better windows to people that i know cant switch.
    iot enterprise is huge

  • @dogewow8999
    @dogewow8999 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Installing drivers on Linux is a nightmare sometimes, on Windows you just point some .inf file in the worst case scenario. I have no problem using Linux without a gui for server stuff, but as a desktop OS it sucks. Maybe it works for a multimedia or emulation device, but I would not use it any time soon on my main desktop.

    • @purpasmart_4831
      @purpasmart_4831 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Comparing apples to oranges. Linux kernel has the drivers built-in, if not you can do dkms modules which is actually pretty easy. You don't need to recompile the linux kernel.

    • @dogewow8999
      @dogewow8999 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@purpasmart_4831 but I do have to compile many drivers and also look for them in 3rd party places since the original website ones won't compile for my current kernel version. Also I have to gather every missing dependency during that process. The desktop loonix experience is constantly troubleshooting stuff. I'm comparing apples and dried crickets.

    • @danielperales3958
      @danielperales3958 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fr, linux servers seem too easy to be true, and having tested a minimal installation of alpine (I used it to try python on an ipad lol) vs a full GUI installation of debian... Holy shit, debian is a fuckin mess. And I already know what stuff it can't run, but seeing a bunch of folks not only in media but irl that tried to convince me of this promised land of software... I ain't falling for it again, linux on desktop is years behind.

    • @purpasmart_4831
      @purpasmart_4831 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@danielperales3958 It's years behind because you said so? KDE plasma is way better experience then windows, It's why Windows has always copied from kde.

  • @sevenredundent7256
    @sevenredundent7256 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can't agree more that all software --in some way, shape, or form-- sucks. I still think that it'd be possible to sell normal people an Ubuntu or Steam OS laptop/desktop if it were in Walmart and if the Ubuntu offering could include Valve's branding. Alternatively it'd be kinda neat if Valve started selling laptops. While Desktop Mode isn't a selling point at all of the Steam Deck to normal people, it's mostly just in the cliff notes, but Valve is technically selling KDE under the default of Game Mode. That being said, Valve didn't sell decks to my family members, they were gifts from me because of my love for the platform, so I could only say Valve sold me on the deck.
    I think a real advantage mega corporations have is that they can provide direction to people to just do work, so the programmers don't have to think about what to do, just how to get it done; meanwhile my directionless ass is sitting here wondering where to start, which language to learn first and which project to contribute to.

  • @Reiikz
    @Reiikz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I agree with most of this.
    but I have 1 nit pick.
    GIMP IS NOT BAD PHOTOSHOP IS LITERALLY WORSE AND PEOPLE SWEAR BY IT.
    Yes asking non technical people to use GIMP is bad, now, asking the same people who never touched an adobe product to use Photoshop is just as bad.
    Both have terrible UX, Krita is so much more intiutive but it is also too complex for the laymen.
    The problem is either of these 3 are PROFESSIONAL SOFTWARE meant for people who do real work.
    Paint is a toy Krita, Photoshop and GIMP are not.
    I wouldn't know what an actual alternative for Paint on Linux would be.
    But not incliding somethig simpler for the laymen alongside GIMP is a mistake I agree with that specifically.
    I also feel like it's important to mention, that I've tried photoshop gave it a chance and was even forced to use it at uni and it's just bad terrible clunky UX all around.
    And it's not just the word of a linux user 10/11 of my classmates in university (who are non technical windows users) prefer krita over photoshop.
    it's a badly designed program and owned by a terrible malintentioned corporation.

    • @nobodylmportant
      @nobodylmportant 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I still use GIMP and Paint Shop Pro 9, GIMP mainly for file conversion. Photoshop at this point is just bloatware

    • @billybobjankens12
      @billybobjankens12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      An alternative for Paint is KDE's KolourPaint, as it looks like pre-Vista Paint.

    • @osku388
      @osku388 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Krita would look 20 years more modern if it could make the title bar integrated and have the brushes have dynamic previews like clip studio. Hiring a designer and focusing on that would do so much more than whatever devs they have

    • @MrMagnaFarce
      @MrMagnaFarce วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've been using GIMP since I was eight years old playing around on my dad's Linux computer and I still use it today nearly 25 years later because I know how to get what I want out of it. I tried out PhotoShop a couple times and gave up. Not going to learn a new program, especially one which is subscription only, to do what I know I can already do in GIMP or a couple other software I use in conjunction with GIMP for the areas it's weak in.

    • @Reiikz
      @Reiikz 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@osku388 krita is FOSS having full time devs is hard.
      specially things like a UX engineer while it might be better to use what already works and focus on stability and performance of what's already there.
      also I feel like what you're asking for while nice is nitpicking.
      Krita's UX design is pretty much perfect.
      it's cuztomizable enough, flexible things are where you would expect them to be.
      and most importantly things that are related are together not all over the place like in photoshop.

  • @chuckintexas
    @chuckintexas วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gomp is BAD _ENOUGH_ that its STANDS as s *major* roadblock to Linux adoption .

  • @glucid4222
    @glucid4222 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Finally, someone who agrees with me. As much as I love Linux, I wholeheartedly believe that it just isn't meant for the average person. Linux is only meant for people who are angry enough with Windows to be desperate enough to turn their backs on it completely. When people buy a computer, they hardly want to have to learn how to install a whole new OS, to learn how to use it and how to live with its shortcomings when compared with Windows.
    Also, let's not forget the fact that Linux, for the sake of openness, freedom of choice and community sharing spirit, has sacrificed cohesiveness, uniformity, basic consumerism concepts and sheer user-friendliness. And let's not talk about some of its communities and their attitude towards any outsiders.

  • @bertnijhof5413
    @bertnijhof5413 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:30 I skip steps running in a VM! Since 2018 I run all my apps in VBox VMs. My VMs inherit the advantages of the Host OS running OpenZFS. They skip the slowest step of reading sectors from the HDD or SSD :) :). So, all VMs completely run from the Host ZFS memory cache (L1ARC) with a hit rate of 99%.
    My HW is the 2nd slowest Ryzen ever, the Ryzen 3 2200G (14nm; 4C4T; 3.7GHz) with 16GB of DDR4 (3000MHz). L1ARC is max 4GB, lz4 compressed.
    The performance is good, boot times of Linux distros vary between 6 and 12 seconds on all 4 cores and Windows XP needs 25 seconds on 1 core.

  • @TraceguyRune
    @TraceguyRune วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Because everything becomes out of date in 1 month. At least Windows updates your OS and your software for you

  • @Joshua_Uwadiae
    @Joshua_Uwadiae วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've settled on the best pperating system in recemt times, which is both Linux and Windows. Linux for work, Windows for gaming

  • @nestwr
    @nestwr  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I only have to wear The Thing because of the bright studio light, thank GOD
    Also, the laptop is going back to Windows as I write this. I need my creative apps, external devices and Pearson Vue to Just Work™, and I can't risk a bunch of money on cert tests on a VM getting detected.

  • @anistardi
    @anistardi วันที่ผ่านมา

    All OS have their own problem. It is only habit. I used Linux in the embedded system and in Windows using WSL for crosscompile.

  • @purpasmart_4831
    @purpasmart_4831 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    To each their own. But as a software developer, using anything but linux is just pure downgrade.

    • @inertia_dagger
      @inertia_dagger วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      mac to me feels like an upgrade
      heresy, I know

    • @unpaidintern6652
      @unpaidintern6652 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@inertia_dagger macOS feels so good and makes me feel dirty because I like it. And then I remember that my laptop has upgradable storage and batteries.

  • @JAMMAJ-cq2bl
    @JAMMAJ-cq2bl วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If someone is having problems with windows they will for sure have GREATER problems with Linux😂 Windows is easy and everything works and if it does not you can easily fix it.!!!!

  • @aronhidvegi
    @aronhidvegi วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    You have access to more settings on Linux with a GUI than on Windows. It's just that its impossible to fit everything in a GUI because of the diverse things you can do on Linux. Also FLOSS app design is superior. Everything tends to be available from a keyboard shortcut, and although sometimes the icons can be a little odd, they still are intuitive. Gimp, FreeCAD, Krita, Kate, KDE Plasma all have better UI's than their proprietary "alternatives."

  • @ammonmiranda9296
    @ammonmiranda9296 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is that One Eyed Willy? Either way, if it's not Linux, it's got "booty traps."

  • @Voidkitty_
    @Voidkitty_ วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    *angerly agrees*

  • @SkyTechLover
    @SkyTechLover วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Linux is a poop of OS. Support is non-existent, and Windows OS after debloating it, is by better and faster than Linux. I have tried several times Linux and again and again I go back to Windows because Linux is just an OS that to do a simple thing you are losing hours. It is just like I go back to 1970s.

  • @psygreg
    @psygreg วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I will disagree with some parts of the video, and the reason why is that Linux is in a very weird place at the moment. It's very good for very basic (browsing the web and managing documents) and advanced users, but not really good for intermediate users (gamers and people that work with more specific stuff like design, video and audio). Considering stable systems, since no one in their right mind should daily drive a rolling distro, the day to day usage of an operating system like Zorin is very simple and straightforward even for very basic users, and it's safer. The problem is basic users don't choose their own operating system - they rely either on the manufacturer of their machine, or whoever they have as their trusted 'tech person' - and most of the time, that person will be an intermediate user who has a poor experience with Linux.
    Because of that, the user base doesn't grow all that much even with all advancements made on the system and applications ecosystem, which results in the software pieces intermediate users need never being ported to Linux, and the cycle repeats itself.

    • @gamagama69
      @gamagama69 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      a rolling distro is better because you dont have to go around the distro. you hae more software that is up to date. but whats worse are anything based off lts.
      zorin kinda sucks fedora is much better ngl
      really hated how zorin felt, mint is less hand holdy despite also being simple to use

    • @psygreg
      @psygreg วันที่ผ่านมา

      @gamagama69 I went back to Zorin after Fedora breaking on me twice on a span of six months after updates. If a more basic user had to deal with that they would think Linux is crap
      I'll move to Pop tho once Cosmic is stable.

    • @marksmithcollins
      @marksmithcollins วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You are looking down on not only Windows lovers, but also ordinary people. People does not care much about OSes in their devices are not infants. They are aligning their life as it is, and OS SHOOTS are just not in their minds until it has problems.
      'Normies aint know nothing so just throw working linux then they can do what they need to do'
      You are extremely rude.

    • @marksmithcollins
      @marksmithcollins วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If the world works with 'theoretical compatibility', you don't even need computers or sh**s.

  • @fyzikal5
    @fyzikal5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is a question before watching the video but I wonder why a Linux platform fails while something like Android is so successful in the mobile space

    • @DandeDingus
      @DandeDingus วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Only real competitor in the mobile space that developed quickly enough. Android is kinda like mac os, both are unix, but locked down enough that you cant easily brick your system

  • @neamupanselutelor7309
    @neamupanselutelor7309 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You're missing the point. Using GNU/Linux isn't about using a more "light weight" operating system. How convenient it is to use is irelevant as well.
    People should use GNU/Linux because that way they will be free.

    • @aronhidvegi
      @aronhidvegi วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree. Also, I would argue that GNU/Linux will be as user friendly as you choose it to be.

  • @DandeDingus
    @DandeDingus วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Aight the UX design stuff is just wrong tho. As much as i hate gnome DE, their apps are HIGHLY aesthetic. Like, gnome software, Nautilus, Disks, file roller, etc all look insanely good and smooth. Then there is kde plasma, its basically Windows but from an alternative timeline.
    And in regards to usability, there is a reason why mint gets called the noob friendly distro, you can safely ignore the terminal if you just do web browsing and multimedia, aka the stuff that most casual users do.

    • @danielperales3958
      @danielperales3958 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Well, they certainly are, but try using their native apps for pdf reading or text editors, they are good enough until something breaks. Comparing them to using vim (text editors) it's ridiculous, as vim wins by far. Evince is crap, I had to install Okular BUT in order to work, it needs to install a bunch of different KDE software to setup plasma (which I wasn't running tho, I installed GNOME lol)

  • @ivancoon
    @ivancoon วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Kali... as a daily driver? I knew where this was going to go before even watching.
    1) Replacement for paint isn't GIMP, it is something like KolourPaint.
    2) The majority of Photoshop users are not professionals, you for one are not. Such users would find Krita a much better alternative than GIMP, you didn't even mention it.
    3) You switched from Xorg (display server) to Gnome (desktop environment)? Mate, you clearly don't know enough about the topic you've decided to cover, which brings us to #4
    4) If you knew what you were doing you would have checked driver support for Linux before purchasing hardware, if you already own hardware you check if it will be supported or not before switching to Linux... this applies to your capture card, and your laptop peripherals.
    I don't go around telling people to switch to Linux. I simply wait for their Windows install to crap itself during an update, and then they are presented with two options: a) fix it themselves, b) switch to Linux (if possible given the SW and HW requirements) and get support from me.

  • @yveice
    @yveice วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sounds like a RTFM problem. Very stupid points u make. The question is not what is the best os + desktop environment for everyone. The question is: what is the best os + desktop environment for a specific purpose/need. My grandma was so much happier using debian + lxde because her needs was just surfing the web, doing mails, doing some word docs. Also, so many software is moving to the web or web-technics apps running in electron chromium framework. Even gaming is moving to the cloud. Big vendors are supporting linux more and more, like Microsoft Office 2024 for Linux. Thanks steam with steam os/steamdeck more games are playable under linux. Web development, nothing beats linux.

    • @salazar1554
      @salazar1554 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      All your points are good except for the first sentence. If the user needs to read the manual your application/software has failed from a UX perspective. One of his main points was that the UX/UI was bad and if it requires documentation to use that is objectively true. On more user friendly distros you do not need it for anything except the installation (and Windows also needs it for their installation). In my personal opinion the only thing standing in desktop Linux's way is not some elusive missing feature but the simple fact that if you walk into JB-HI-FI/Bestbuy and buy a random laptop it doesn't have Linux preinstalled.

    • @yveice
      @yveice 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@salazar1554 We simply have completely different views on this. For me, it's more like driving a car. You learn what you need to know once, and that knowledge lasts mostly for the rest of your life. Most of the things you do today in BSD/Linux in the shell can be done with the knowledge I learned from “UNIX System Administration Handbook (1989)”, for example. With BSD more than with Linux. With Windows it's partly learning things anew every time, because things were “fixed” that weren't broken. Because Microsoft was of the opinion: This is how it has to be now, the old way was bad or is outdated in our view. Take-it-or-leave-it.
      To me, that's a mentality: Why spend money on a professional tree cutter? Why take a chainsaw course? I can do it myself with a YT video, because you can buy chainsaws restriction free at the hardware store. And if the tree lands on the neighbor's car, it's the chainsaw manufacturer's fault that he didn't build the chainsaw in such a way that this doesn't happen.

  • @chuckintexas
    @chuckintexas วันที่ผ่านมา

    ANSOLUTELT _SPOT_ - ON !