You have access to more settings on Linux with a GUI than on Windows. It's just that its impossible to fit everything in a GUI because of the diverse things you can do on Linux. Also FLOSS app design is superior. Everything tends to be available from a keyboard shortcut, and although sometimes the icons can be a little odd, they still are intuitive. Gimp, FreeCAD, Krita, Kate, KDE Plasma all have better UI's than their proprietary "alternatives."
Installing drivers on Linux is a nightmare sometimes, on Windows you just point some .inf file in the worst case scenario. I have no problem using Linux without a gui for server stuff, but as a desktop OS it sucks. Maybe it works for a multimedia or emulation device, but I would not use it any time soon on my main desktop.
Lets be honest, most ppl will get away with just a Chromebook as their computer. Gamers will stick to console or windows pc and productivity can be done on anything unless you use some proprietary software like final cut pro
I only have to wear The Thing because of the bright studio light, thank GOD Also, the laptop is going back to Windows as I write this. I need my creative apps, external devices and Pearson Vue to Just Work™, and I can't risk a bunch of money on cert tests on a VM getting detected.
People are not newborn child. They have history. Family problems are cannot be solved by formatting everyone and recompiling modified version of family brain kernels. You guys should know that.
"You can get hdr working on arch, if you hate yourself and don't value your time"... what do you mean value my time... You mean to say that my time is actually worth something? 🤔 (arch on nvidia user)
Excellent! "00:05:46 8. Desktop Linux (s)UX" -- someone finally says it out loud. Desktop Linux UX is HORRIBLE! Totally agree. And I have 30+ IT experience and 20+ years Linux experience. I will totally not suggest desktop Linux to anyone except I suggest Mint as distro to ones already decided to switch. I have countless stories in my pocket of broken UI and unintuitive, straightforward hostile UX.
I agree with most of this. but I have 1 nit pick. GIMP IS NOT BAD PHOTOSHOP IS LITERALLY WORSE AND PEOPLE SWEAR BY IT. Yes asking non technical people to use GIMP is bad, now, asking the same people who never touched an adobe product to use Photoshop is just as bad. Both have terrible UX, Krita is so much more intiutive but it is also too complex for the laymen. The problem is either of these 3 are PROFESSIONAL SOFTWARE meant for people who do real work. Paint is a toy Krita, Photoshop and GIMP are not. I wouldn't know what an actual alternative for Paint on Linux would be. But not incliding somethig simpler for the laymen alongside GIMP is a mistake I agree with that specifically. I also feel like it's important to mention, that I've tried photoshop gave it a chance and was even forced to use it at uni and it's just bad terrible clunky UX all around. And it's not just the word of a linux user 10/11 of my classmates in university (who are non technical windows users) prefer krita over photoshop. it's a badly designed program and owned by a terrible malintentioned corporation.
I can't agree more that all software --in some way, shape, or form-- sucks. I still think that it'd be possible to sell normal people an Ubuntu or Steam OS laptop/desktop if it were in Walmart and if the Ubuntu offering could include Valve's branding. Alternatively it'd be kinda neat if Valve started selling laptops. While Desktop Mode isn't a selling point at all of the Steam Deck to normal people, it's mostly just in the cliff notes, but Valve is technically selling KDE under the default of Game Mode. That being said, Valve didn't sell decks to my family members, they were gifts from me because of my love for the platform, so I could only say Valve sold me on the deck. I think a real advantage mega corporations have is that they can provide direction to people to just do work, so the programmers don't have to think about what to do, just how to get it done; meanwhile my directionless ass is sitting here wondering where to start, which language to learn first and which project to contribute to.
The people who hate Windows do so primarily because it's mainstream. If Linux was mainstream, people would be out there switching to exotic Windows 11 systems.
I will disagree with some parts of the video, and the reason why is that Linux is in a very weird place at the moment. It's very good for very basic (browsing the web and managing documents) and advanced users, but not really good for intermediate users (gamers and people that work with more specific stuff like design, video and audio). Considering stable systems, since no one in their right mind should daily drive a rolling distro, the day to day usage of an operating system like Zorin is very simple and straightforward even for very basic users, and it's safer. The problem is basic users don't choose their own operating system - they rely either on the manufacturer of their machine, or whoever they have as their trusted 'tech person' - and most of the time, that person will be an intermediate user who has a poor experience with Linux. Because of that, the user base doesn't grow all that much even with all advancements made on the system and applications ecosystem, which results in the software pieces intermediate users need never being ported to Linux, and the cycle repeats itself.
a rolling distro is better because you dont have to go around the distro. you hae more software that is up to date. but whats worse are anything based off lts. zorin kinda sucks fedora is much better ngl really hated how zorin felt, mint is less hand holdy despite also being simple to use
@gamagama69 I went back to Zorin after Fedora breaking on me twice on a span of six months after updates. If a more basic user had to deal with that they would think Linux is crap I'll move to Pop tho once Cosmic is stable.
You are looking down on not only Windows lovers, but also ordinary people. People does not care much about OSes in their devices are not infants. They are aligning their life as it is, and OS SHOOTS are just not in their minds until it has problems. 'Normies aint know nothing so just throw working linux then they can do what they need to do' You are extremely rude.
You're missing the point. Using GNU/Linux isn't about using a more "light weight" operating system. How convenient it is to use is irelevant as well. People should use GNU/Linux because that way they will be free.
Kali... as a daily driver? I knew where this was going to go before even watching. 1) Replacement for paint isn't GIMP, it is something like KolourPaint. 2) The majority of Photoshop users are not professionals, you for one are not. Such users would find Krita a much better alternative than GIMP, you didn't even mention it. 3) You switched from Xorg (display server) to Gnome (desktop environment)? Mate, you clearly don't know enough about the topic you've decided to cover, which brings us to #4 4) If you knew what you were doing you would have checked driver support for Linux before purchasing hardware, if you already own hardware you check if it will be supported or not before switching to Linux... this applies to your capture card, and your laptop peripherals. I don't go around telling people to switch to Linux. I simply wait for their Windows install to crap itself during an update, and then they are presented with two options: a) fix it themselves, b) switch to Linux (if possible given the SW and HW requirements) and get support from me.
Linux is a poop of OS. Support is non-existent, and Windows OS after debloating it, is by better and faster than Linux. I have tried several times Linux and again and again I go back to Windows because Linux is just an OS that to do a simple thing you are losing hours. It is just like I go back to 1970s.
If someone is having problems with windows they will for sure have GREATER problems with Linux😂 Windows is easy and everything works and if it does not you can easily fix it.!!!!
Sounds like a RTFM problem. Very stupid points u make. The question is not what is the best os + desktop environment for everyone. The question is: what is the best os + desktop environment for a specific purpose/need. My grandma was so much happier using debian + lxde because her needs was just surfing the web, doing mails, doing some word docs. Also, so many software is moving to the web or web-technics apps running in electron chromium framework. Even gaming is moving to the cloud. Big vendors are supporting linux more and more, like Microsoft Office 2024 for Linux. Thanks steam with steam os/steamdeck more games are playable under linux. Web development, nothing beats linux.
Finally, someone who agrees with me. As much as I love Linux, I wholeheartedly believe that it just isn't meant for the average person. Linux is only meant for people who are angry enough with Windows to be desperate enough to turn their backs on it completely. When people buy a computer, they hardly want to have to learn how to install a whole new OS, to learn how to use it and how to live with its shortcomings when compared with Windows. Also, let's not forget the fact that Linux, for the sake of openness, freedom of choice and community sharing spirit, has sacrificed cohesiveness, uniformity, basic consumerism concepts and sheer user-friendliness. And let's not talk about some of its communities and their attitude towards any outsiders.
You have access to more settings on Linux with a GUI than on Windows. It's just that its impossible to fit everything in a GUI because of the diverse things you can do on Linux. Also FLOSS app design is superior. Everything tends to be available from a keyboard shortcut, and although sometimes the icons can be a little odd, they still are intuitive. Gimp, FreeCAD, Krita, Kate, KDE Plasma all have better UI's than their proprietary "alternatives."
If you want to imply you are a pirate, don't wink, just point to the eyepatch and say I'm glad I just have this and not a pegleg.
Installing drivers on Linux is a nightmare sometimes, on Windows you just point some .inf file in the worst case scenario. I have no problem using Linux without a gui for server stuff, but as a desktop OS it sucks. Maybe it works for a multimedia or emulation device, but I would not use it any time soon on my main desktop.
Lets be honest, most ppl will get away with just a Chromebook as their computer. Gamers will stick to console or windows pc and productivity can be done on anything unless you use some proprietary software like final cut pro
ive been recommending how to better windows to people that i know cant switch.
iot enterprise is huge
I only have to wear The Thing because of the bright studio light, thank GOD
Also, the laptop is going back to Windows as I write this. I need my creative apps, external devices and Pearson Vue to Just Work™, and I can't risk a bunch of money on cert tests on a VM getting detected.
thats fair
People are not newborn child. They have history.
Family problems are cannot be solved by formatting everyone and recompiling modified version of family brain kernels.
You guys should know that.
"You can get hdr working on arch, if you hate yourself and don't value your time"... what do you mean value my time... You mean to say that my time is actually worth something? 🤔 (arch on nvidia user)
Excellent! "00:05:46 8. Desktop Linux (s)UX" -- someone finally says it out loud. Desktop Linux UX is HORRIBLE! Totally agree. And I have 30+ IT experience and 20+ years Linux experience. I will totally not suggest desktop Linux to anyone except I suggest Mint as distro to ones already decided to switch. I have countless stories in my pocket of broken UI and unintuitive, straightforward hostile UX.
can we actually trust a pirate tho?
All OS have their own problem. It is only habit. I used Linux in the embedded system and in Windows using WSL for crosscompile.
I agree with most of this.
but I have 1 nit pick.
GIMP IS NOT BAD PHOTOSHOP IS LITERALLY WORSE AND PEOPLE SWEAR BY IT.
Yes asking non technical people to use GIMP is bad, now, asking the same people who never touched an adobe product to use Photoshop is just as bad.
Both have terrible UX, Krita is so much more intiutive but it is also too complex for the laymen.
The problem is either of these 3 are PROFESSIONAL SOFTWARE meant for people who do real work.
Paint is a toy Krita, Photoshop and GIMP are not.
I wouldn't know what an actual alternative for Paint on Linux would be.
But not incliding somethig simpler for the laymen alongside GIMP is a mistake I agree with that specifically.
I also feel like it's important to mention, that I've tried photoshop gave it a chance and was even forced to use it at uni and it's just bad terrible clunky UX all around.
And it's not just the word of a linux user 10/11 of my classmates in university (who are non technical windows users) prefer krita over photoshop.
it's a badly designed program and owned by a terrible malintentioned corporation.
I still use GIMP and Paint Shop Pro 9, GIMP mainly for file conversion. Photoshop at this point is just bloatware
An alternative for Paint is KDE's KolourPaint, as it looks like pre-Vista Paint.
I can't agree more that all software --in some way, shape, or form-- sucks. I still think that it'd be possible to sell normal people an Ubuntu or Steam OS laptop/desktop if it were in Walmart and if the Ubuntu offering could include Valve's branding. Alternatively it'd be kinda neat if Valve started selling laptops. While Desktop Mode isn't a selling point at all of the Steam Deck to normal people, it's mostly just in the cliff notes, but Valve is technically selling KDE under the default of Game Mode. That being said, Valve didn't sell decks to my family members, they were gifts from me because of my love for the platform, so I could only say Valve sold me on the deck.
I think a real advantage mega corporations have is that they can provide direction to people to just do work, so the programmers don't have to think about what to do, just how to get it done; meanwhile my directionless ass is sitting here wondering where to start, which language to learn first and which project to contribute to.
Gomp is BAD _ENOUGH_ that its STANDS as s *major* roadblock to Linux adoption .
this is a question before watching the video but I wonder why a Linux platform fails while something like Android is so successful in the mobile space
The people who hate Windows do so primarily because it's mainstream. If Linux was mainstream, people would be out there switching to exotic Windows 11 systems.
Because everything becomes out of date in 1 month. At least Windows updates your OS and your software for you
To each their own. But as a software developer, using anything but linux is just pure downgrade.
mac to me feels like an upgrade
heresy, I know
I will disagree with some parts of the video, and the reason why is that Linux is in a very weird place at the moment. It's very good for very basic (browsing the web and managing documents) and advanced users, but not really good for intermediate users (gamers and people that work with more specific stuff like design, video and audio). Considering stable systems, since no one in their right mind should daily drive a rolling distro, the day to day usage of an operating system like Zorin is very simple and straightforward even for very basic users, and it's safer. The problem is basic users don't choose their own operating system - they rely either on the manufacturer of their machine, or whoever they have as their trusted 'tech person' - and most of the time, that person will be an intermediate user who has a poor experience with Linux.
Because of that, the user base doesn't grow all that much even with all advancements made on the system and applications ecosystem, which results in the software pieces intermediate users need never being ported to Linux, and the cycle repeats itself.
a rolling distro is better because you dont have to go around the distro. you hae more software that is up to date. but whats worse are anything based off lts.
zorin kinda sucks fedora is much better ngl
really hated how zorin felt, mint is less hand holdy despite also being simple to use
@gamagama69 I went back to Zorin after Fedora breaking on me twice on a span of six months after updates. If a more basic user had to deal with that they would think Linux is crap
I'll move to Pop tho once Cosmic is stable.
You are looking down on not only Windows lovers, but also ordinary people. People does not care much about OSes in their devices are not infants. They are aligning their life as it is, and OS SHOOTS are just not in their minds until it has problems.
'Normies aint know nothing so just throw working linux then they can do what they need to do'
You are extremely rude.
If the world works with 'theoretical compatibility', you don't even need computers or sh**s.
You're missing the point. Using GNU/Linux isn't about using a more "light weight" operating system. How convenient it is to use is irelevant as well.
People should use GNU/Linux because that way they will be free.
I agree. Also, I would argue that GNU/Linux will be as user friendly as you choose it to be.
Kali... as a daily driver? I knew where this was going to go before even watching.
1) Replacement for paint isn't GIMP, it is something like KolourPaint.
2) The majority of Photoshop users are not professionals, you for one are not. Such users would find Krita a much better alternative than GIMP, you didn't even mention it.
3) You switched from Xorg (display server) to Gnome (desktop environment)? Mate, you clearly don't know enough about the topic you've decided to cover, which brings us to #4
4) If you knew what you were doing you would have checked driver support for Linux before purchasing hardware, if you already own hardware you check if it will be supported or not before switching to Linux... this applies to your capture card, and your laptop peripherals.
I don't go around telling people to switch to Linux. I simply wait for their Windows install to crap itself during an update, and then they are presented with two options: a) fix it themselves, b) switch to Linux (if possible given the SW and HW requirements) and get support from me.
*angerly agrees*
Linux is a poop of OS. Support is non-existent, and Windows OS after debloating it, is by better and faster than Linux. I have tried several times Linux and again and again I go back to Windows because Linux is just an OS that to do a simple thing you are losing hours. It is just like I go back to 1970s.
If someone is having problems with windows they will for sure have GREATER problems with Linux😂 Windows is easy and everything works and if it does not you can easily fix it.!!!!
Sounds like a RTFM problem. Very stupid points u make. The question is not what is the best os + desktop environment for everyone. The question is: what is the best os + desktop environment for a specific purpose/need. My grandma was so much happier using debian + lxde because her needs was just surfing the web, doing mails, doing some word docs. Also, so many software is moving to the web or web-technics apps running in electron chromium framework. Even gaming is moving to the cloud. Big vendors are supporting linux more and more, like Microsoft Office 2024 for Linux. Thanks steam with steam os/steamdeck more games are playable under linux. Web development, nothing beats linux.
Finally, someone who agrees with me. As much as I love Linux, I wholeheartedly believe that it just isn't meant for the average person. Linux is only meant for people who are angry enough with Windows to be desperate enough to turn their backs on it completely. When people buy a computer, they hardly want to have to learn how to install a whole new OS, to learn how to use it and how to live with its shortcomings when compared with Windows.
Also, let's not forget the fact that Linux, for the sake of openness, freedom of choice and community sharing spirit, has sacrificed cohesiveness, uniformity, basic consumerism concepts and sheer user-friendliness. And let's not talk about some of its communities and their attitude towards any outsiders.
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