I have had a model 3 about 4 years now and I consider it head and shoulders above any other car I've ever had. And after this time I still enjoy every mile.
Apple Music, Spotify and now audible. I have zero FOMO of Car Play. Had my MY for almost three years. The best car I have ever owned. Still love driving it. The software updates keep it fresh. The only money I have spent in maintenance is new tires and that was after 30K miles. I never charge over 65% unless I am going on a longer trip. Only supercharged twice in three years. Battery still showing the same range as when it was new.
I was afraid to lose Apple car play as well ( I've had my MYLR six weeks )and like you, do not miss it one bit!! Can you tell me why 65% charge as opposed to 80 which seems to be the norm? Do you base it on need or does that help your battery?
@@MelissaD77 Ive read and watched so many opinions on this. I think you are fine up to 80% for normal daily usage. For me, it's really both. I commute less than 100 miles a day and at 65% my car shows around 212 miles of expected range. It may be anecdotal but, as I mentioned, I have seen zero loss of range in almost three years. When I know Im going on a longer trip, I'll charge to 80 or 90%. Ive gone on one road trip and I charged to 100% before leaving but even thats not necessary. I plan on holding on to the car for at least 5 years so I treat it softly. If I was leasing, I probably wouldn't care as much.
@@peterfriedman3745 great info~ thank you and appreciate the response. I'm a light driver as well so preserving the battery is key. This car has made me a better and safer driver. Not a lot is said about that aspect of owning a Tesal in the hundreds of posts I read on YT or FB
I ended up leasing a dual motor model Y for work. Regular wheels, free paint color, no FSD. If I paid cash at the time, it would have been $37,780 with the $7500 tax credit and a $4K markdown - a great deal! But at the current interest rate, and not knowing where the technology and even the Model Y will be in three years, the lease made sense to me. It’s barely been two months and I love the vehicle and so does my right foot. 😂👍🏾. Wifey wants one, too. 😂
The trade in value of the car that he paid $63k for is currently about $25k and dropping quickly. Any savings on gas and maintenance are insignificant compared to depreciation. Buying used was good advice.
I used FSD 12.3.4 and it drove me from escondido to ponto with zero interventions. It's insane how good it is now. I was skeptical but there is definitely something there now. The past is the past on that, seems FSD is moving forward finally.
Nice honest and accurate video - agrees well with our one year model Y experience. A small point, but please read up on the difference between a watt and a watt-hour. A watt is a rate of using energy (its like a gallon per minute in the fluid world), and a watt-hour is an amount of energy (like a gallon in the fluid world). For a technical person hearing them used wrong is like fingernails on a chalk board :) If you drive 2 hours at a constant power level of 240 watts, then you have used 480 watt-hrs of electricity - about 0.5 KWH.
In the San Francisco Bay area, they kill you for electricity. It cost between 45 cents to 51 cents a kwh to charge at home. Don't forget those😮 electricity delivery charges even though you charge it the best E-TOU time It's cheaper to charge at a Tesla charger or other 3rd party if you can get it below .40/kwh
I have the 2023 Model Y LR as you do and enjoy it very much. I am Retired, I don't do any long trips or get on Expressways, and just do short daily trips around town. I did not subscribe to the Premium Connectivity being single and only drive around town. I do use the Radio while driving. and that is all I need. I did not get any added special protection on the car. My short slow area driving, I feel the car will not get damaged like people would with more high speed driving roads. i am single and the only one driving the Tesla, so I just bought seat covers for protection. The rest of the vehicle should stay like brand new The Tesla stays protected in a home garage and only do home charging when needed - saves money doing this. I do not need or use public charging stations. I am currently doing the FREE FSD 30 day trial till June 9th. it is an interesting feature, gets me to do short trip destinations, but at this time I will not subscribe for the FSD feature. I feel I can drive the Tesla better myself. To me FSD is just a luxury Play Toy to tell everyone, "Hey, my car can drive itself." If I need anything, I will use Auto Pilot or Cruise Control. Thanks for the video. Take care.
When you are talking about cost savings, Can you also compare the depreciation as compare to Gas car models in the same range? That would give a holistic overview?
Single pull on the stock was an option that popped up and I got to choose to either activate it or leave it at the previous double pull. It was not on by default when my 2020 MY got that update.
I’ve been torn between used and new. With the tax credit and .99% financing the payments on the loans aren’t far apart. Tesla is offering 8.79% for used loan.
I bought a used Red 2022 Model Y Performance. It's amazing, parking sensors and Ryzen processor. $40k back in January. It was $71k new on the purchase sticker they had in the car. It's an amazing car, lets me have so much more storage than the Model 3 LR I had previously. I needed utility but couldn't afford it until the price drops.
I was talking with a friend about this today. Everyone time an influencer talked about Tesla's infotainment, they always complain about the lack of Apple Carplay or Android Auto. I do not see how this is a negative. The infotainment is still much more responsive than 80% of other infotainment systems. I understand the lack of "apps", but what do you NEED vs what you LIKE. I get you like waze, bur you don't need it. I get you like x or y apps, but you don't need it. Imo, the infotainment system comparisons are irrelevant. What should be compared is maps, menu navigation, adjustable settings, easy of finding setting, and more things like that.
$61k is insane for the model Y. I understand it was 2020, but damn. Im about to buy a 2023 model Y AWD LR for 35k. 12k miles. I checked, and the trade in value for the same 2023 model Y is currently 29k.
After watching your video and hearing your comments on FSD I assumed this was an old video. Once I saw this video is new I was really surprised about your comments on FSD. Since the total redo eliminating 300,000 lines of code and using AI to learn and get better, FSD is amazing. So much better than anything out there. It’s obvious to me that TESLA will solve this completely very soon now. I have to admit 6 months ago, I wasn’t so sure. Have you tried version 12.3? I’m curious what your thoughts are.
Thank you for your review. I got my 2021 TMY long range a couple of months ago and I love it, just one thing really annoying is the squeaky sound coming from my driver's seat every time I turn or the road is bumpy, almost like an old mattress, yours have that problem? Any way to fix it? It just started about a week ago and it's driving me crazy!!! Thank you again.
Owned my model 3 since 2020 July and just had the front end repaired under warrant. Have 52,923 km on it. I am thinking about the extended warranty but not sure. I live In the GTA area and bought the FSD (Supervised) and not impressed. It still goes down the wrong highways and misses exits. Bought it because had a bad accident and wanted something to assist with driving. Love the car and would buy it again
Anytime I’m on the highway in the center lane and others are merging onto the highway in the right lane. My 2024 Y brakes hard. It did it yesterday with an 18-wheeler behind me. Maybe there’s a setting I need to change?
I'm looking into getting a used Model Y from the Tesla website. Is it worth buying a used one with the extra 1 year warranty if the closest Tesla dealership is over 2 hours away from my house? My biggest concern is anything major breaking on my car and not being able to get it serviced.
Biggest differences between that year and the 2023/2024: Ride quality, not as harsh on bumps and bad roads, no interior side panel rattles, slightly larger battery, no more ultrasonic sensors in the bumpers (not necessarily a good thing), dual pane windows.
I'd be curious on the math for someone driving a high amount of miles per year. In my case, my one year average is your 4-year. I daily a Toyota Camry and can see high 30's average due to a lot of highway mileage. My commute is such that I end up at home every night, so home charging would still apply. I would definitely benefit from an electric car, provided I owned a home (still renting). My main issue of worry is battery replacement for someone like myself. I am trying to get 400-600,000 miles out of my commuter car, and I know an electric car could easily go that distance or more with less maintenance. I'm not seeing much for reviews from people with that high of mileage in such a short timespan that haven't supercharged their batteries to hell constantly.
Informative video for the long run. Currently if you plan on buying the .99% interest rate makes it make more sense to finance a new vehicle when compared to a used vehicle. If you are getting with cash I would agree with you but the financing makes no sense to buy used at this point for the rest of the month.
Hmmm, I have a 2022 Model 3, and I just link my phone via Bluetooth, and I can play music directly from my phone with all of my preferences - and it links automatically (wirelessly) when I get into the car to my last music/news source. That's nothing short of amazing in my opinion - it just works! Also, I find Tesla's version of Google Maps far better than Google's version. For example, it shows you what your next two turns are that are coming up. Google Maps doesn't do that. The graphics and information on Tesla's GPS are also far better than Google Maps. I am just learning to use the text and phone call functions, but the car downloaded all my contacts when I connected my phone to it, which is spectacular compared to other new cars I have driven. I have NEVER liked Google's Android Auto, even though I have used it on several vehicles. I own a Galaxy S22 Ultra, which is an Android phone. I really don't get why you think Android Auto and Apple Car Play are superior to Tesla's software but to each their own. I have worked in other states several times over the last five years and have rented numerous brands of new cars. I have tried the GPS/Entertainment/Phone/text center in Nissan, Hyundai, Toyota and other brand cars, and frankly, their UI features are dinosaurs compared to Tesla's. The only feature that doesn't work quite as well on Tesla's software as on Google's Android Auto is voice command, and that is only because it is somewhat limited. However, I have found that once you learn the commands, it is BETTER than Google's voice assistant. It is also much easier to use than Google's assistant and more reliable. From what I have heard, Rivian's software is second-rate compared to Tesla's and their trucks have all sorts of bugs in them which would frustrate the living hell out of me. If Rivian can address several problems with their trucks, I would like to get one after solid-state batteries become mainstream in the next three years. I love many of the features on the Rivian truck, but it is FAR too heavy and it's software is poorly rated by many reviewers. With solid-state batteries, Rivian could easily shave 1500 -2000 lbs off of the curb weight of their trucks because they will be at least 50% more efficient. That would make the physics of the truck much more reasonable. Still, for their first attempt, Rivian created a game-changing truck with some amazing features.
The one thing i really hate about tesla, the brake lights don't turn on when they are slowing down. Their re-gen is aggressive enough it warrants the lights coming on. So many close calls from this and bad drivers.
Carplay and AA are going to cause people to strand themselves by using google maps or apple maps. The driver wouldn't know where to stop. Until they can hook into the API to see the necessary stops, leaving carplay and AA out is the right call.
I have a 2020 model Y. Consider it over all the best car I’ve ever owned. The new auto pilot is brilliant. Drives me to work and home every day. Much less distracted driver than I am. I also owned a Rivian R1. That was an excellent vehicle. But make no mistake, the auto pilot is nowhere near as advanced as Tesla. I’ve been in the car business my entire adult life, and I know a lot about cars. The model Y is very fast, handles well, stops well, and has the most comfortable seats I’ve had in a vehicle. I can’t wait for the upgraded model Y to come out. I will be a buyer.
I feel like w/ Teslas, the car market may have shifted, like a new computer or cell phone.. A newer model is actually a more advanced technology, even if only slight.. still significant as an investment to be new instead of used.. which is very new as a value based purchase.
Battery tech and FSD is what will differentiate Tesla in the future. It is not only cars that are changing but tye consumer. When Gen Z gets to their 40s, you will have the first generation that grew up 100% with a smart phone and that experience is the baseline for what will be expected on an EV...
Our model Y AWD long range 12000 mile average is 223Wh/mi. It depends on your use case, if you are primarily highway driving which we are not you will likely be over 300Wh/mi and maybe way over depending on how fast you drive. Temperature and elevation gain/loss also are big factors. So, if you not driving at high speeds allot 240Wh/mi is very believable. Ours has never been to a DC fast charger and our energy cost is low at 9 cents/kWhr. Fuel costs are potentially a fraction of an ICE vehicle as in our case.
I am waiting for the Model Y refresh. I don't need it right away. It just doesn't make sense to me to buy used. The Model 3 refresh proved to me how good the Model Y refresh could be. Also, when you get access to FSD 12.4 or 12.5 you may want to try it again. Buying FSD may prove to be the best purchase you made.
I agree, I think FSD is future proofing the car, buying on a promise. It could be a fail, but if it’s not, it’s a huge win, great point. And when it’s working later, the value may increase with inflation.
I appreciate your video, except I will encourage a new one not used, because of warranty, cameras, sell back value, depreciation, and cost difference between new and old. The only value of old and pricing is you can find an old one with all upgrades, speed boost, and FSD, for the price of a new one. I also will say an old one isn’t as comfortable with the new one suspensions, and ultimately the newer the better in newest tech going forward. Also to get the used EV credit it has to be a 25k price to get a 4000$ EV credit, which will mean a high mileage, warranty expiring car, which I will be cautious of. Good video though nonetheless, thank you.
Plus with the current .99% rates on a new one is such a bargain. Also buying a used one will cost you more if you are financial and insuring it. So sometimes used may not be that big of a savings, this is coming from someone who always buy used. Actually this was my first ever new car purchase.
Def not. We'll probably sell it soon or get an extended warranty. I know from past experience with our Model X back in 2017 how expensive repairs can get out of warranty!
thank you for this info. We are actually a Tesla family. M d newest to own one in the family but we still have a non EV cars just in case of emergency.
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Cost not valid. 28.9 cents in 2020 per sdge google search overview. And if you take into consideration that most people are over baseline it's much higher and moreso each year.
Your front passenger and driver side tints don’t look legal under California law. I researched this when I tinted windows in my Model Y and discovered that California has severe restrictions on the permissible level of tinting allowed. Like the rampant breaking of law concerning (front license license plates are required ) just hope you don’t run into a cop in a bad mood someday.😊
Yes, the tint is illegal but the front license plate isn’t as “bad” as the tint. I’ve been driving with no front plate for about 3+ years now and no cop ever takes a look. Unless you get pulled over for speeding for a fix it ticket no cop will stop you just for the plate.
@@Ryguy092 I agree that it’s unlikely that you’ll ever get pulled over for not having a front plate. But I’ve read on the SoCal Tesla Facebook group that some people have gotten actual tickets, not fix it, in some cities. And apparently some of the airports (LAX for sure) have cops that cruise through the parking lots and hand out tickets (again not fix it). I don’t want to have anything to do with the police if I can possibly help it so I slapped on the front plate (I put in a service call and a Tesla test came out to my house to install the plate!). The risk is whether you get pulled over for something else and run into a cop in a bad mood. But a majority, maybe even 3/4, of Teslas in SoCal don’t have front plates. It seems that most are willing to risk getting a ticket, which can range from $25-$200 depending on what city you’re in.
I may be wrong, but when I looked into California law regarding front license plates, it is only required if the manufacturer put a license plate holding device built into the car. Many vehicles do not have a standard place to put the plate on the front. They of course make aftermarket stuff to attach a plate up front, but from what I read, is not required. Of course do your own research!
@@joewiley6927 Front plates are required. The only exception are tractors. “Vehicle Code § 5200 is the California statute that requires you to fasten and display license plates on your vehicles. Failure to do so is an infraction punishable by a $197.00 fine, plus court costs. Section 5200 states that: “(a) When two license plates are issued by the department for use upon a vehicle, they shall be attached to the vehicle for which they were issued, one in the front and the other in the rear. (b) When only one license plate is issued for use upon a vehicle, it shall be attached to the rear thereof, unless the license plate is issued for use upon a truck tractor, in which case the license plate shall be displayed in accordance with Section 4850.5.”
@@joewiley6927 Oh this just triggered a memory I had long forgotten... When I was in college I was parked on the street like everybody else and I come back only to see i got ticketed for missing front plates. There were a million cars there, but I get a ticket for license plate. So its definitely required, you just need a cop in a mood
I'm sorry your wife got blindsided by these things on the updates, but we need to kind of be a little more open and up front with the audience instead of getting them to fear this or think that it's a negative. In reality, every time you get an update, the information of that update is right there for you to review. I would assume everyone would want to review what just changed on their vehicle before they even drove it? But I also encourage that. Most of us get excited for updates and then we actually look to see what is updated. Also, I bought a used one but with 0.99% APR available on a new model y, I'm considering upgrading from our model 3. Along with the fact there's a $7,500 rebate that you can use for your down payment up front when purchasing .Also, you can see exactly how much your car has saved or used on the app.
Point of clarification, we didn't initiate the updates. Tesla pushed it without our consent and then changed the driving experience without warning. This has happened multiple times in every one of our Tesla's going back to 2018.
The times when it auto pushed the updates we received no notifications at all. I remember this specifically with my 2013 Model S that had SiriusXM which I subscribed to at the time. They had an update one day that was going to remove it. So I avoided doing the update for months. One day I got in to head to work and no more SiriusXM. No notification or anything. It's a real bug that I worked with their PR team back then on but still seems to persist to this day unfortunately. My point in bringing that up in the video was to highlight a challenge many will have with a software driven car. If you believe the work Geoffrey Moore did this would apply to over 80% of new owners. I agree with your main idea however, that if you initiate the update you should be aware of what can change.
How could you forget 2 things. First, the $7,500 tax credit for new Tesla's - buy new is a great value. Secondly, FSD v12 is amazing and NO ONE else has a similar product. And if you are thinking Waymo - you can't buy one of those.
I Installed MagBak Rimcase wheel protection on my 2022 Model Y. Covers existing damage and if a section gets damaged, remove it and replace it with a new section. I bought 5 wheels kits, so that I had a spare wheel kit, for those damaged section replacements.
What about when the government finally decides to charge extra for EVs because people are not paying for gas and want their money for road repairs, etc.?
Tax credit for used vehicles is limited to vehicles costing $25,000 or less. I don’t think you can find a Tesla for that. In other words, the tax credit does not apply to used Teslas.
Nice video - One thing you didn’t mention is the number of trips to the gas station avoided by driving an EV. In the example you outlined we might estimate 120! trips to the gas station you avoided over the last 4 years and 45,000 miles (assuming an average of 15 gallons per fillup). This is a significant amount of time and hassle saved by owning an EV .
He also did not mention that he did not have to charge even a single time from a commercial charger as he did not even take a single Road trip in 4 years. Spectacular. There are always 2 sides of the coin. :-)
There’s tax incentives of up to $11,000 off for qualified customers. If you do qualify, a lot of you will see you’re not saving much in the used market after fees and what not. That is unless you go as far as 2021, maybe 2022 with less features, someone else’s miles, wear and tear, battery drainage, dust, dead skin, and bacteria all over the place 😂.. Also I think if you’re going switch to electric from gas for the first time you should be damn sure you’re ready to make that decision and just dive in. Don’t be scared, stay as future proof as possible, get that 2024.. Or wait to see if Elon orders more Nvidia GPU’s for Tesla like he was originally supposed to do, which obviously nobody will be able to accurately guess when that would be for a bit.
Not true on the updates, you get a full synopsis on all update afterwards before you even drive your car. It is your responsibility to read and understand what has changed.
I'm trying to justify an MY purchase..... all gas savings that I would get are offset by the higher yearly excise taxes, increased insurance, and EV-gas tax. So, in effect, it is a wash in my case.
I have an F-150 Lightning and my insurance didn’t go up at all compared to my previous Ram truck; not all EVs will raise your insurance premium. The main advantage to Tesla is the Supercharger network IMO, if you take long road trips it’s hard to beat at the moment.
Just learned a new reason I hate black rims; when they get scratched, and they will, they look dystopian like cyberpunk. Just trashy looking. Silver rims only please.
Just give up on the apple car play and Android auto , No car company with plans to survive into the furture is handing all the profits and customers loyalty to Apple and Google.
It's Te"S"la, Te"S"la, Te"S"la!, not Tezla! The original founders of Tesla pronounced it with a "S", Elon is NOT an original founder. Are your front side windows, headlights and tail lights legal, they look dark. With all the money you spent on paint protection I'm surprised you didn't protect the wheels because they all have curb rash. On my Model Y Performance I changed out the 21" wheels for 18" wheels with beefier sidewalls. Now my car gets better range and curb protection. But I'm surprised you don't know what the order fee is, since Tesla has been charging that for a while now. It's a fee to prevent people from cancelling their order because if you cancel then Tesla keeps that fee. If you complete your order you get the $250 back. Don't buy a used Tesla because you really don't know how the previous owner's charging habits, which could have hurt the battery health/life. Buy the low end new Model Y and get $0.99% financing from Tesla!
Your $135 monthly electricity cost is 4 times to high. You took the 4 year cost and divided it by 12! Nice video though!
Oh good catch!
Snag funny as hell
@@BenSullinsOfficialI have watch two of your videos and two times the figures were wrong. Interesting……
@@commuterbranchline8132 I guess someone needs to read a statistics 101 book lol
@@commuterbranchline8132 maybe they are called omissions. :-)
I have had a model 3 about 4 years now and I consider it head and shoulders above any other car I've ever had. And after this time I still enjoy every mile.
Apple Music, Spotify and now audible. I have zero FOMO of Car Play. Had my MY for almost three years. The best car I have ever owned. Still love driving it. The software updates keep it fresh. The only money I have spent in maintenance is new tires and that was after 30K miles. I never charge over 65% unless I am going on a longer trip. Only supercharged twice in three years. Battery still showing the same range as when it was new.
Me too love my MY
I was afraid to lose Apple car play as well ( I've had my MYLR six weeks )and like you, do not miss it one bit!! Can you tell me why 65% charge as opposed to 80 which seems to be the norm? Do you base it on need or does that help your battery?
@@MelissaD77 Ive read and watched so many opinions on this. I think you are fine up to 80% for normal daily usage. For me, it's really both. I commute less than 100 miles a day and at 65% my car shows around 212 miles of expected range. It may be anecdotal but, as I mentioned, I have seen zero loss of range in almost three years. When I know Im going on a longer trip, I'll charge to 80 or 90%. Ive gone on one road trip and I charged to 100% before leaving but even thats not necessary. I plan on holding on to the car for at least 5 years so I treat it softly. If I was leasing, I probably wouldn't care as much.
@@peterfriedman3745 great info~ thank you and appreciate the response. I'm a light driver as well so preserving the battery is key. This car has made me a better and safer driver. Not a lot is said about that aspect of owning a Tesal in the hundreds of posts I read on YT or FB
how do I find Audible? Is it an app where the Spotify and others are kept? Haven't found it with latest update just listen through bluetooth
I ended up leasing a dual motor model Y for work. Regular wheels, free paint color, no FSD. If I paid cash at the time, it would have been $37,780 with the $7500 tax credit and a $4K markdown - a great deal! But at the current interest rate, and not knowing where the technology and even the Model Y will be in three years, the lease made sense to me. It’s barely been two months and I love the vehicle and so does my right foot. 😂👍🏾. Wifey wants one, too. 😂
I like that you did not vacuum out the car before showing it. A very honest review!
you forgot to mention the higher insurance cost because of electric car which kinds of cancel out the "gas"
The trade in value of the car that he paid $63k for is currently about $25k and dropping quickly. Any savings on gas and maintenance are insignificant compared to depreciation. Buying used was good advice.
Do you think this is true even with the recent 0.99%Interest interest rate for the month of May?
That’s why you always buy a car with 30k to 40k miles about 2 years old to hit that sweet spot
I used FSD 12.3.4 and it drove me from escondido to ponto with zero interventions. It's insane how good it is now. I was skeptical but there is definitely something there now. The past is the past on that, seems FSD is moving forward finally.
Good to hear! It'll be amazing when I can hail one and have it show up without a driver. Fingers crossed it's soon
@16:25 - Wouldn’t you average monthly cost be $34/mo, not $135/mo, since that $1620 is across 48 months, not 12 months?
I was mathing the same thing 😂
yep! Messed up those maths. Edit incoming...
Nice honest and accurate video - agrees well with our one year model Y experience.
A small point, but please read up on the difference between a watt and a watt-hour. A watt is a rate of using energy (its like a gallon per minute in the fluid world), and a watt-hour is an amount of energy (like a gallon in the fluid world). For a technical person hearing them used wrong is like fingernails on a chalk board :)
If you drive 2 hours at a constant power level of 240 watts, then you have used 480 watt-hrs of electricity - about 0.5 KWH.
In the San Francisco Bay area, they kill you for electricity. It cost between 45 cents to 51 cents a kwh to charge at home. Don't forget those😮 electricity delivery charges even though you charge it the best E-TOU time It's cheaper to charge at a Tesla charger or other 3rd party if you can get it below .40/kwh
@@bellagio88 wow those prices are crazy!!!
I have the 2023 Model Y LR as you do and enjoy it very much. I am Retired, I don't do any long trips or get on Expressways, and just do short daily trips around town.
I did not subscribe to the Premium Connectivity being single and only drive around town. I do use the Radio while driving. and that is all I need.
I did not get any added special protection on the car. My short slow area driving, I feel the car will not get damaged like people would with more high speed driving roads. i am single and the only one driving the Tesla, so I just bought seat covers for protection. The rest of the vehicle should stay like brand new
The Tesla stays protected in a home garage and only do home charging when needed - saves money doing this. I do not need or use public charging stations.
I am currently doing the FREE FSD 30 day trial till June 9th. it is an interesting feature, gets me to do short trip destinations, but at this time I will not subscribe for the FSD feature. I feel I can drive the Tesla better myself. To me FSD is just a luxury Play Toy to tell everyone, "Hey, my car can drive itself." If I need anything, I will use Auto Pilot or Cruise Control.
Thanks for the video. Take care.
I would encourage you to review the release notes. You won't be surprised by changes to the car.
Hard to check them when they push the update without your consent and don't notify you in any way ;)
@@BenSullinsOfficial its in your app, you can also set it to manual updates
Very informative. Thank you!
Keep in mind that it's not only software changes, but hardware that changes how these cars ride or safety in a collision has improved with newer Ys:)
How many time you got a flat tire and what you have paid to replace one?
Could i ask when you first collect your MYLR, How many Miles you got of 100%? and now how many Miles you got of 100% after 4 years today? Thanks a lot
When you are talking about cost savings, Can you also compare the depreciation as compare to Gas car models in the same range? That would give a holistic overview?
How’s the suspension? Is it a smooth ride?
Are the induction wheels still worth it in your opinion!?
Single pull on the stock was an option that popped up and I got to choose to either activate it or leave it at the previous double pull. It was not on by default when my 2020 MY got that update.
I’ve been torn between used and new. With the tax credit and .99% financing the payments on the loans aren’t far apart. Tesla is offering 8.79% for used loan.
How many miles were on this after 4 years at the time of the video?
I bought a used Red 2022 Model Y Performance. It's amazing, parking sensors and Ryzen processor. $40k back in January. It was $71k new on the purchase sticker they had in the car.
It's an amazing car, lets me have so much more storage than the Model 3 LR I had previously. I needed utility but couldn't afford it until the price drops.
Great review but what about insurance costs?
About $100/mo, same as any other car in this category
I was talking with a friend about this today. Everyone time an influencer talked about Tesla's infotainment, they always complain about the lack of Apple Carplay or Android Auto. I do not see how this is a negative. The infotainment is still much more responsive than 80% of other infotainment systems.
I understand the lack of "apps", but what do you NEED vs what you LIKE. I get you like waze, bur you don't need it.
I get you like x or y apps, but you don't need it.
Imo, the infotainment system comparisons are irrelevant.
What should be compared is maps, menu navigation, adjustable settings, easy of finding setting, and more things like that.
$61k is insane for the model Y. I understand it was 2020, but damn. Im about to buy a 2023 model Y AWD LR for 35k. 12k miles. I checked, and the trade in value for the same 2023 model Y is currently 29k.
After watching your video and hearing your comments on FSD I assumed this was an old video. Once I saw this video is new I was really surprised about your comments on FSD. Since the total redo eliminating 300,000 lines of code and using AI to learn and get better, FSD is amazing. So much better than anything out there. It’s obvious to me that TESLA will solve this completely very soon now. I have to admit 6 months ago, I wasn’t so sure. Have you tried version 12.3? I’m curious what your thoughts are.
Thank you for your review.
I got my 2021 TMY long range a couple of months ago and I love it, just one thing really annoying is the squeaky sound coming from my driver's seat every time I turn or the road is bumpy, almost like an old mattress, yours have that problem? Any way to fix it?
It just started about a week ago and it's driving me crazy!!!
Thank you again.
Owned my model 3 since 2020 July and just had the front end repaired under warrant. Have 52,923 km on it. I am thinking about the extended warranty but not sure. I live In the GTA area and bought the FSD (Supervised) and not impressed. It still goes down the wrong highways and misses exits. Bought it because had a bad accident and wanted something to assist with driving. Love the car and would buy it again
but driving only 52K kilometers in 4 years does give you enough savings, specially when you paid more to get an EV ?
Anytime I’m on the highway in the center lane and others are merging onto the highway in the right lane. My 2024 Y brakes hard. It did it yesterday with an 18-wheeler behind me. Maybe there’s a setting I need to change?
Phantom braking it’s called, can really kill the confidence in the system I find
Breaking hard is the same risk that a Rear vehicle will hit you hard from the back, and there is nothing you can do about it.
I'm looking into getting a used Model Y from the Tesla website. Is it worth buying a used one with the extra 1 year warranty if the closest Tesla dealership is over 2 hours away from my house? My biggest concern is anything major breaking on my car and not being able to get it serviced.
check here tesla.com/findus and there might be a closer service center. It can be tough if you're truly that far from anything however.
Can you link me to your videos on how you hacked your electricity to cost 15c per KW in California? Thanks for all your videos!
Check the playlists !
The per kilowatt is .15 wow we are .35/kw and supercharger .40-50 in Ventura
Thanks Ben, nice review!
Biggest differences between that year and the 2023/2024: Ride quality, not as harsh on bumps and bad roads, no interior side panel rattles, slightly larger battery, no more ultrasonic sensors in the bumpers (not necessarily a good thing), dual pane windows.
Good realistic review with car seat and wear/tear 👏👏👏
I have a Model X, which is my first EV. I still miss Apple Car Play. I also bought used.
Buy a 2022 with the ultrasonic parking sensors. No piano black. CCS-compatible.
I'd be curious on the math for someone driving a high amount of miles per year. In my case, my one year average is your 4-year. I daily a Toyota Camry and can see high 30's average due to a lot of highway mileage. My commute is such that I end up at home every night, so home charging would still apply. I would definitely benefit from an electric car, provided I owned a home (still renting).
My main issue of worry is battery replacement for someone like myself. I am trying to get 400-600,000 miles out of my commuter car, and I know an electric car could easily go that distance or more with less maintenance. I'm not seeing much for reviews from people with that high of mileage in such a short timespan that haven't supercharged their batteries to hell constantly.
Informative video for the long run. Currently if you plan on buying the .99% interest rate makes it make more sense to finance a new vehicle when compared to a used vehicle. If you are getting with cash I would agree with you but the financing makes no sense to buy used at this point for the rest of the month.
Hmmm, I have a 2022 Model 3, and I just link my phone via Bluetooth, and I can play music directly from my phone with all of my preferences - and it links automatically (wirelessly) when I get into the car to my last music/news source. That's nothing short of amazing in my opinion - it just works! Also, I find Tesla's version of Google Maps far better than Google's version. For example, it shows you what your next two turns are that are coming up. Google Maps doesn't do that. The graphics and information on Tesla's GPS are also far better than Google Maps.
I am just learning to use the text and phone call functions, but the car downloaded all my contacts when I connected my phone to it, which is spectacular compared to other new cars I have driven. I have NEVER liked Google's Android Auto, even though I have used it on several vehicles. I own a Galaxy S22 Ultra, which is an Android phone. I really don't get why you think Android Auto and Apple Car Play are superior to Tesla's software but to each their own.
I have worked in other states several times over the last five years and have rented numerous brands of new cars. I have tried the GPS/Entertainment/Phone/text center in Nissan, Hyundai, Toyota and other brand cars, and frankly, their UI features are dinosaurs compared to Tesla's.
The only feature that doesn't work quite as well on Tesla's software as on Google's Android Auto is voice command, and that is only because it is somewhat limited. However, I have found that once you learn the commands, it is BETTER than Google's voice assistant. It is also much easier to use than Google's assistant and more reliable.
From what I have heard, Rivian's software is second-rate compared to Tesla's and their trucks have all sorts of bugs in them which would frustrate the living hell out of me. If Rivian can address several problems with their trucks, I would like to get one after solid-state batteries become mainstream in the next three years. I love many of the features on the Rivian truck, but it is FAR too heavy and it's software is poorly rated by many reviewers. With solid-state batteries, Rivian could easily shave 1500 -2000 lbs off of the curb weight of their trucks because they will be at least 50% more efficient. That would make the physics of the truck much more reasonable. Still, for their first attempt, Rivian created a game-changing truck with some amazing features.
Great information.
The one thing i really hate about tesla, the brake lights don't turn on when they are slowing down. Their re-gen is aggressive enough it warrants the lights coming on. So many close calls from this and bad drivers.
The lights come on every time . Try it at night and turn on the cameras
Thank you for the share
You can still get 310 miles from a full charge?! That's quite impressive after 4 yrs.
Carplay and AA are going to cause people to strand themselves by using google maps or apple maps. The driver wouldn't know where to stop. Until they can hook into the API to see the necessary stops, leaving carplay and AA out is the right call.
For road trips we use A Better Route Planner
@@BenSullinsOfficial That's a great tool but the vast majority of users don't even know that that exists
I have a 2020 model Y. Consider it over all the best car I’ve ever owned. The new auto pilot is brilliant. Drives me to work and home every day. Much less distracted driver than I am. I also owned a Rivian R1. That was an excellent vehicle. But make no mistake, the auto pilot is nowhere near as advanced as Tesla. I’ve been in the car business my entire adult life, and I know a lot about cars. The model Y is very fast, handles well, stops well, and has the most comfortable seats I’ve had in a vehicle. I can’t wait for the upgraded model Y to come out. I will be a buyer.
I feel like w/ Teslas, the car market may have shifted, like a new computer or cell phone.. A newer model is actually a more advanced technology, even if only slight.. still significant as an investment to be new instead of used.. which is very new as a value based purchase.
Given it’s commonly used as a family car, how’s the ride quality on poorer road surfaces?
Battery tech and FSD is what will differentiate Tesla in the future.
It is not only cars that are changing but tye consumer.
When Gen Z gets to their 40s, you will have the first generation that grew up 100% with a smart phone and that experience is the baseline for what will be expected on an EV...
240W/mile really? do you drive 30miles per hour?
Our model Y AWD long range 12000 mile average is 223Wh/mi. It depends on your use case, if you are primarily highway driving which we are not you will likely be over 300Wh/mi and maybe way over depending on how fast you drive. Temperature and elevation gain/loss also are big factors. So, if you not driving at high speeds allot 240Wh/mi is very believable. Ours has never been to a DC fast charger and our energy cost is low at 9 cents/kWhr. Fuel costs are potentially a fraction of an ICE vehicle as in our case.
you'd probably be surprised your average speed over a trip. Check out Tezlab to get good stats on this.
I am waiting for the Model Y refresh. I don't need it right away. It just doesn't make sense to me to buy used. The Model 3 refresh proved to me how good the Model Y refresh could be. Also, when you get access to FSD 12.4 or 12.5 you may want to try it again. Buying FSD may prove to be the best purchase you made.
I agree, I think FSD is future proofing the car, buying on a promise. It could be a fail, but if it’s not, it’s a huge win, great point. And when it’s working later, the value may increase with inflation.
@@apolloxgod fsd follows the car, so if you upgrade later you have to buy again. Subscription makes the best sense you can have it if you need it.
Sorry, not a fan of headlight or taillight tinting. See if you can guess why.
I appreciate your video, except I will encourage a new one not used, because of warranty, cameras, sell back value, depreciation, and cost difference between new and old. The only value of old and pricing is you can find an old one with all upgrades, speed boost, and FSD, for the price of a new one.
I also will say an old one isn’t as comfortable with the new one suspensions, and ultimately the newer the better in newest tech going forward. Also to get the used EV credit it has to be a 25k price to get a 4000$ EV credit, which will mean a high mileage, warranty expiring car, which I will be cautious of.
Good video though nonetheless, thank you.
These cars are going to go for 300k miles. I wouldn’t be worried in the least.
Plus with the current .99% rates on a new one is such a bargain. Also buying a used one will cost you more if you are financial and insuring it. So sometimes used may not be that big of a savings, this is coming from someone who always buy used. Actually this was my first ever new car purchase.
I'm coming up on 4 years of MY ownership as well. Are you going to do the 2-year manufacturer warranty extension for $2?
It's only $2?
@@ducey99 sorry I meant 2 grand 😭
Def not. We'll probably sell it soon or get an extended warranty. I know from past experience with our Model X back in 2017 how expensive repairs can get out of warranty!
@@BenSullinsOfficial So if you keep it, you’ll get the extended 2 year warranty through Tesla right?
I'll have to check options. I haven't looked in a while but I know there are several third party options as well.
I have Android Auto, and I hate it's not integrated with the car.
thank you for this info. We are actually a Tesla family. M d newest to own one in the family but we still have a non EV cars just in case of emergency.
Cost not valid. 28.9 cents in 2020 per sdge google search overview. And if you take into consideration that most people are over baseline it's much higher and moreso each year.
Dig deeper and you’ll find the EV TOU 5 plan
Your front passenger and driver side tints don’t look legal under California law. I researched this when I tinted windows in my Model Y and discovered that California has severe restrictions on the permissible level of tinting allowed. Like the rampant breaking of law concerning (front license license plates are required ) just hope you don’t run into a cop in a bad mood someday.😊
Yes, the tint is illegal but the front license plate isn’t as “bad” as the tint. I’ve been driving with no front plate for about 3+ years now and no cop ever takes a look. Unless you get pulled over for speeding for a fix it ticket no cop will stop you just for the plate.
@@Ryguy092 I agree that it’s unlikely that you’ll ever get pulled over for not having a front plate. But I’ve read on the SoCal Tesla Facebook group that some people have gotten actual tickets, not fix it, in some cities. And apparently some of the airports (LAX for sure) have cops that cruise through the parking lots and hand out tickets (again not fix it). I don’t want to have anything to do with the police if I can possibly help it so I slapped on the front plate (I put in a service call and a Tesla test came out to my house to install the plate!). The risk is whether you get pulled over for something else and run into a cop in a bad mood. But a majority, maybe even 3/4, of Teslas in SoCal don’t have front plates. It seems that most are willing to risk getting a ticket, which can range from $25-$200 depending on what city you’re in.
I may be wrong, but when I looked into California law regarding front license plates, it is only required if the manufacturer put a license plate holding device built into the car. Many vehicles do not have a standard place to put the plate on the front. They of course make aftermarket stuff to attach a plate up front, but from what I read, is not required. Of course do your own research!
@@joewiley6927 Front plates are required. The only exception are tractors. “Vehicle Code § 5200 is the California statute that requires you to fasten and display license plates on your vehicles. Failure to do so is an infraction punishable by a $197.00 fine, plus court costs.
Section 5200 states that:
“(a) When two license plates are issued by the department for use upon a vehicle, they shall be attached to the vehicle for which they were issued, one in the front and the other in the rear.
(b) When only one license plate is issued for use upon a vehicle, it shall be attached to the rear thereof, unless the license plate is issued for use upon a truck tractor, in which case the license plate shall be displayed in accordance with Section 4850.5.”
@@joewiley6927 Oh this just triggered a memory I had long forgotten...
When I was in college I was parked on the street like everybody else and I come back only to see i got ticketed for missing front plates. There were a million cars there, but I get a ticket for license plate. So its definitely required, you just need a cop in a mood
thanks... a good video covering everything for new buyers.
So you didn’t get the tax credit because the car was over the cost limit of the federal tax credit?
The rules were different in 2020. I did get the credit but it was after the fact as a tax deduction, not a discount on the price at time of purchase
What year is this
I'm sorry your wife got blindsided by these things on the updates, but we need to kind of be a little more open and up front with the audience instead of getting them to fear this or think that it's a negative. In reality, every time you get an update, the information of that update is right there for you to review. I would assume everyone would want to review what just changed on their vehicle before they even drove it? But I also encourage that. Most of us get excited for updates and then we actually look to see what is updated. Also, I bought a used one but with 0.99% APR available on a new model y, I'm considering upgrading from our model 3. Along with the fact there's a $7,500 rebate that you can use for your down payment up front when purchasing .Also, you can see exactly how much your car has saved or used on the app.
Point of clarification, we didn't initiate the updates. Tesla pushed it without our consent and then changed the driving experience without warning. This has happened multiple times in every one of our Tesla's going back to 2018.
@@BenSullinsOfficial and it doesn't notify you at all about your updates when you enter the car?
The times when it auto pushed the updates we received no notifications at all. I remember this specifically with my 2013 Model S that had SiriusXM which I subscribed to at the time. They had an update one day that was going to remove it. So I avoided doing the update for months. One day I got in to head to work and no more SiriusXM. No notification or anything. It's a real bug that I worked with their PR team back then on but still seems to persist to this day unfortunately. My point in bringing that up in the video was to highlight a challenge many will have with a software driven car. If you believe the work Geoffrey Moore did this would apply to over 80% of new owners. I agree with your main idea however, that if you initiate the update you should be aware of what can change.
This guy said if your rocking a iPhone 12 no my guy I don’t have phone fomo
How could you forget 2 things. First, the $7,500 tax credit for new Tesla's - buy new is a great value. Secondly, FSD v12 is amazing and NO ONE else has a similar product. And if you are thinking Waymo - you can't buy one of those.
rim rash kills me.......
I Installed MagBak Rimcase wheel protection on my 2022 Model Y. Covers existing damage and if a section gets damaged, remove it and replace it with a new section. I bought 5 wheels kits, so that I had a spare wheel kit, for those damaged section replacements.
Curb rash is due to bad driving /lack of experience haha nothing else. Never scraped a rim in my life; my wife’s car….different story :/
What about when the government finally decides to charge extra for EVs because people are not paying for gas and want their money for road repairs, etc.?
As if they don't already make enough money to manage this....
Tax credit for used vehicles is limited to vehicles costing $25,000 or less. I don’t think you can find a Tesla for that. In other words, the tax credit does not apply to used Teslas.
Good point! I see some as low as 27K on the Tesla site and on others lots of Model 3s for under 25K that would qualify. So many nuances in the law tho
You did count in the instant 7500
I would buy new if you're eligible for the full $7500 tax credit.
I wish there is a tax credit for ppl who don't drive
Right! It was actually cheaper for me to buy new than used.
And currently 0.99% APR!
Ben, you sold out on telsa. Should I really trust you or is this for views?
Nice video - One thing you didn’t mention is the number of trips to the gas station avoided by driving an EV. In the example you outlined we might estimate 120! trips to the gas station you avoided over the last 4 years and 45,000 miles (assuming an average of 15 gallons per fillup). This is a significant amount of time and hassle saved by owning an EV .
He also did not mention that he did not have to charge even a single time from a commercial charger as he did not even take a single Road trip in 4 years. Spectacular. There are always 2 sides of the coin. :-)
@@annasad that's incorrect. he takes road trips all the time and talks about it in prior videos.
@@seaurchin5069 so that KWh hour rate he calculated included super charger cost too ? Correct ?
Who pays $8000 for what I call not FSD but a really stressful driving experience. Anyone buying this is nuts
@@jigs8437 8k to you is like $80 to others
Yoooo….sold my corvette dor a new aupwr beart 🔋🔋🔋😎😎lolollolo
There’s tax incentives of up to $11,000 off for qualified customers. If you do qualify, a lot of you will see you’re not saving much in the used market after fees and what not. That is unless you go as far as 2021, maybe 2022 with less features, someone else’s miles, wear and tear, battery drainage, dust, dead skin, and bacteria all over the place 😂.. Also I think if you’re going switch to electric from gas for the first time you should be damn sure you’re ready to make that decision and just dive in. Don’t be scared, stay as future proof as possible, get that 2024.. Or wait to see if Elon orders more Nvidia GPU’s for Tesla like he was originally supposed to do, which obviously nobody will be able to accurately guess when that would be for a bit.
"Still rocking an Iphone 12."
400 a year for electric? That seems really cheap.
Not true on the updates, you get a full synopsis on all update afterwards before you even drive your car. It is your responsibility to read and understand what has changed.
Not always
I'm trying to justify an MY purchase..... all gas savings that I would get are offset by the higher yearly excise taxes, increased insurance, and EV-gas tax. So, in effect, it is a wash in my case.
Less maintenance wins it for me plus the fast smooth acceleration.
More tires isn't better maintenance lol @@JonathanRootD
Yup, it's basically a wash. Each state raises the registration now, more tires, higher insurance. It's all an illusion at this point.
I have an F-150 Lightning and my insurance didn’t go up at all compared to my previous Ram truck; not all EVs will raise your insurance premium. The main advantage to Tesla is the Supercharger network IMO, if you take long road trips it’s hard to beat at the moment.
@@USNEM Perhaps "safety" and "maintenance" are what to lean on if going Tesla.
Just learned a new reason I hate black rims; when they get scratched, and they will, they look dystopian like cyberpunk. Just trashy looking. Silver rims only please.
Just give up on the apple car play and Android auto , No car company with plans to survive into the furture is handing all the profits and customers loyalty to Apple and Google.
You lost 25 to 30 miles anyway . That battery degraded by 10%
Why are you lying about the new Model y prices?
Please explain
It's Te"S"la, Te"S"la, Te"S"la!, not Tezla! The original founders of Tesla pronounced it with a "S", Elon is NOT an original founder. Are your front side windows, headlights and tail lights legal, they look dark. With all the money you spent on paint protection I'm surprised you didn't protect the wheels because they all have curb rash. On my Model Y Performance I changed out the 21" wheels for 18" wheels with beefier sidewalls. Now my car gets better range and curb protection. But I'm surprised you don't know what the order fee is, since Tesla has been charging that for a while now. It's a fee to prevent people from cancelling their order because if you cancel then Tesla keeps that fee. If you complete your order you get the $250 back. Don't buy a used Tesla because you really don't know how the previous owner's charging habits, which could have hurt the battery health/life. Buy the low end new Model Y and get $0.99% financing from Tesla!
You are totally wrong about FSD dude. Everyone should have it on their car
That interior is DISGUSTING 🤢