Paul TheSkeptic that's funny in England, traditionally a duster would be a long stick with feathers attached at one end, used for removing dust from the higher areas in a room. Do Americans know who the, very elderly now, English comedian Ken Dodd is? tickle-me pink!
MISTERJOHN JOHN Ha ha. We call that a feather duster. A duster is also a long coat worn by cowboys and other horsemen in the 1800's to keep the dust off their nice suite. Now they're worn by those who have a bit eccentric taste, like AronRa. Well, I don't know who that is but I'm usually the last to hear about things. It's good to learn about a new comic though.
I cant confirm this, but my father used to tell me that when he was a child in the 1930s, he and his friends would avoid the school truant officers by "skinny dipping" in the lakes in Crystal Palace Park and used to swim inside the large dinosaurs that were hollow. Theres was also an impressive bronze statue of Guy the Gorilla in that park. I used to go there a lot as a teenager and fish in the lake.
who DOESN'T love AronRa? that guy is a one of a kind, and a damn nice guy. i love the way his brain works. id love to meet AronRa and just shoot the shit, and just see what kind of interesting topics we come up with. great vid sir.
Ah... I see ***** likes to get a picture of himself standing near oddities in the UK. Any chance those dinosaur statues later used a computer at the Back 2 Work centre to make a video claiming that Aron was both harassing them and running away from them? (No? It was just the one oddity that did that?)
AnEntropyFan Sodomy does not mean gay sex, that meaning only came about many hundreds of years later in letters between priests. The original meaning of sodomy was bigotry.. ie, Solomon says of Sodomites, that they refused to provide help and shelter to strangers... angels are sexless, thus cannot have been homosexually assaulted.. etc etc.. Please see this article from the University of Idaho. www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/sodom.htm
When you went to the Natural History Museum for the Darwin shot, did you also see the animatronic Dinosaurs? They're cool, my daughter loves pretending to be scared by them.
One issue I've always had with christians defending God and his creations is: If God is a PERFECT being then wouldnt he create only perfection? If yes then why are we and this world NOT perfect? If no then they are admitting that God is not perfect.
I am really enjoying your traveling pictures on facebook, thank you for shearing. I might be able to get you a clam fossil if you are interested, from a friend that has lots of them. I will see you in PA on 9-11.. PS When will you debate the Pope? Haha
I remember when I visited this place when I was about 8; it's not far from me. Thought they were really cool until years later when I found out how innacurate they were.
A little bit of "Walking with dinosaurs" over there. I also want to go there one day. I knew about the Iguanadon for a long time. That looks like an iguana and has a nose horn, but the actual one was more like a Hadrosaur and had thumb spikes. Still, for a mid-1800s effort, you really can't blame them very much. It's as if on Mars, we found a few fossils but only of a small part of the body. We'd probably try to make them resemble animals on Earth, even if they didn't look that way. The important thing is the willingness to find out more and modify one's views based on new evidence.
Darwin witnessed the Royal Navy ship he was travelling on evolve into a Beagle before his very eyes. I don't think you can argue with evidence like that.
I can see the theist now looking at that last picture, “ah, we knew it!”, since they are all used to worshiping engraved images, it’s hard for them to imagine that everyone else doesn’t. This is why they’re sure that atheists must worship at the foot of a Charles Darwin statue. Great picture.
What a curious and interesting footnote in history, a funny example of irrational assumptions played out. At least this wasn't done in Kentucky in 2007.
lol... I would never have even considered jumping the fence to pose beside them. I'm far too respectful of "the rules", and would have obediently stayed on the right side of the fence. One of many reasons why Aron is cooler than me.
bobby jager i lived in London for a while, and I've never seen them! and now only 69 miles away my better half reminds me every time we are near.... one day
Well these things were made quite a long time ago and even if they are not correct they were pretty good works of art. It is a shame that they have been left to rot rather than preserving them, did he get to see the gorilla everyone takes a look at the gorilla it's yet another great bit of art work. For sure it would be better if these things were absolutely correct but like the man said they didn't have the knowledge then.
Bloody tourists! ;-) Visiting those statues was my first holiday as a 3 or 4 year old child! I love that Aran is enough of a bad boy to get his feet wet for those photos. And DPR, standing nervously as he does so!
I imagine Aron feels very safe in the UK knowing law abiding Brits cannot carry handguns as opposed to Texas where people are recognized to have a right to defend themselves.
Terrible camera work, once they got to the park I had to stop watching, couldn't he just look at one thing for a few seconds and let the camera settle down?
I think this park is fine. Aron is wrong to knock ideas 150 years after the fact. This was before The Origin of Species, after all, and I'm sure it kindled interest in what was not yet a Science. It's fine. If someone thinks it's Science, everyone can explain the Science must be established before making a call. If someone thinks it's not Science, you can point to similar Creationist theme parks. :) I say keep it! Edit: I'm too late? They tore it down? Ach.
Paleontology was young and there were few answers then. Just because we have many answers 150 years later doesn't make it dishonest or dead wrong at the time. It was a park. It's fine. Those who are not shallow realize this.
My point is that it's a little to easy to point out errors after 150 years of paleontology, especially with the level of conjecture we experience every decade within this field. In 2165, shallow people may laugh at 2015 exhibits featuring Torosaurus and Triceratops as two separate species, or various colorful plumes for mating, or blood-filled ridges for which there is no hard evidence, and so on. Those dishonest 21st Century paleontologists, just look at that Smithsonian exhibit! What were they thinking?
Owen's bias was against anyone coming along trying to be a better naturalist than he. And he really was one of the finest naturalists before, during, and after this time, with an unrivalled expertise in fossils. His expertise and his ill-reputed personal traits are irrelevant to the design of these dinosaurs. Hawkins, who sculpted the dinosaurs from current knowledge and his own knowledge in the field, could not just "stick to the bones" like modern exhibits do. He had to flesh out the dinosaurs, and he did the best he could with limited knowledge. This knowledge is still limited today. At the time, there was no consensus around a theory suggesting dinosaurs were bird-like in external appearance or behavior. So, quite naturally, this resulted in the quite "terrible lizards" presented in the Crystal Palace park.
I am glad that Aron had a good day in London.
In that outfit Aronra should be looking for platform 9 and 3/4.
lol true 😆😆😂😂🤣🤣
I'm so glad that you got to see and get pictures with those statues.
Paul
i didn't imagine Aron that fit :D
seeing him that active had me quite wondering as i'm used to see him stand in front of an audience not much moving.
AronRa must be quite the sight in England with his hat and duster.
Paul TheSkeptic
that's funny in England, traditionally a duster would be a long stick with feathers attached at one end, used for removing dust from the higher areas in a room.
Do Americans know who the,
very elderly now,
English comedian Ken Dodd is?
tickle-me pink!
MISTERJOHN JOHN Ha ha. We call that a feather duster. A duster is also a long coat worn by cowboys and other horsemen in the 1800's to keep the dust off their nice suite. Now they're worn by those who have a bit eccentric taste, like AronRa.
Well, I don't know who that is but I'm usually the last to hear about things. It's good to learn about a new comic though.
What gave you the impression that there are no people with eccentric dress sense in Britain?
"Ah baby duck!" should replace "squirrel!"
meleagrisfelis I have many baby ducks on my pond. Soooo cute. I'm yet to see a dinosaur.
meleagrisfelis
Yes, especially to show our solidarity with the Germans, who are physically incapable of pronouncing the latter ;-)
I love the french word. Un Écureuil.
***** But then you did see a dinosaurs, or at least descendants.
*****
LOL! I know French (somewhat) and I'm not sure how to pronounce it. Does it end with a "Y" as in "Yemen"?
I am laughing right now typing this ! Great image at the end fellas!
I cant confirm this, but my father used to tell me that when he was a child in the 1930s, he and his friends would avoid the school truant officers by "skinny dipping" in the lakes in Crystal Palace Park and used to swim inside the large dinosaurs that were hollow. Theres was also an impressive bronze statue of Guy the Gorilla in that park. I used to go there a lot as a teenager and fish in the lake.
Fossils visiting fossils, how appropriate.
The last scene was classic. lol :)
I'd have to touch the fake dino. Then have someone be all "He can't not touch it!"
+Deconverted Man
At least he didn't stick his hand into the fake poop :P
Why do I hear "Breaking the law. Breaking the law..." being sung over Aron's photo shoot?
"Hail Darwin, Lord of Atheism, we praise you Oh Lord" !!
The iguanodon with the nose-horn always interested me for some reason. I hope you had a chance to visit Jeremy Bentham, too.
I loved this park when i was a kid.
who DOESN'T love AronRa? that guy is a one of a kind, and a damn nice guy. i love the way his brain works. id love to meet AronRa and just shoot the shit, and just see what kind of interesting topics we come up with. great vid sir.
Hahaha dude I lived in Crystal Palace for nine months so it's surreal to see you there. I never did visit the dinosaurs, though :(.
This is also on my list. I only wish that the Crystal Palace itself were still there.
I loved the ending.
Aron getting photobombed by a duck was interesting as well.
Ah... I see ***** likes to get a picture of himself standing near oddities in the UK.
Any chance those dinosaur statues later used a computer at the Back 2 Work centre to make a video claiming that Aron was both harassing them and running away from them? (No? It was just the one oddity that did that?)
*****
I thought he wanted to be a baby duck...
Funny stuff!
***** Well, he's debated oddities, so why not?
*****
Dinos ain't people. They are all sodomites, since cloacae are neither vaginas nor penises and we all know that Gawd-ah approves only of PiV sex.
AnEntropyFan Sodomy does not mean gay sex, that meaning only came about many hundreds of years later in letters between priests.
The original meaning of sodomy was bigotry.. ie, Solomon says of Sodomites, that they refused to provide help and shelter to strangers... angels are sexless, thus cannot have been homosexually assaulted.. etc etc..
Please see this article from the University of Idaho.
www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/sodom.htm
When you went to the Natural History Museum for the Darwin shot, did you also see the animatronic Dinosaurs? They're cool, my daughter loves pretending to be scared by them.
dpr why have you not been uploading for so long and are you going to start uploading again regularly in the future?
The last scene is a good one.
One issue I've always had with christians defending God and his creations is: If God is a PERFECT being then wouldnt he create only perfection? If yes then why are we and this world NOT perfect? If no then they are admitting that God is not perfect.
Laughing joyously at this video. Gotta love the Ra man
Thats my neck of the woods. Hope he had fun. :D
Some people take ages to take a picture and leave you standing for days.
I love the ending.
The shaky cam gave me a headache
Is the dpraronjonesra fossil a reptile or mammal?
You know with Aron standing next to those monstrosities, it could almost be on a metal album.
I love that he is just a big kid! With brass balls!
"Hey look, a duck" ~splash~
Wonderful!
Aaron did you have to explain yourself to the bobbies?
I wonder if Richard Dawkins ever got the chance to get up close to those statues?
I am really enjoying your traveling pictures on facebook, thank you for shearing. I might be able to get you a clam fossil if you are interested, from a friend that has lots of them. I will see you in PA on 9-11..
PS When will you debate the Pope? Haha
I remember when I visited this place when I was about 8; it's not far from me. Thought they were really cool until years later when I found out how innacurate they were.
Aron getting excited about a baby duck, he's a big softie really!
xD ....love that last frame!!
.what if we will find a self replicating watch with dna? is this kind of watch need a designer or not?
A little bit of "Walking with dinosaurs" over there. I also want to go there one day. I knew about the Iguanadon for a long time. That looks like an iguana and has a nose horn, but the actual one was more like a Hadrosaur and had thumb spikes. Still, for a mid-1800s effort, you really can't blame them very much. It's as if on Mars, we found a few fossils but only of a small part of the body. We'd probably try to make them resemble animals on Earth, even if they didn't look that way. The important thing is the willingness to find out more and modify one's views based on new evidence.
dprjones Goddamit dpr hold the camera steady.
6:14: WORSHIP HIM! WORSHIP HIM!
Only just found this but that still at the end with those two praising the Darwin statue had me in fits of laughter.
Is it me or does AronRa look like the guy from Bloodborne on this video?
dprjones where have you been all my life.
If you guys are in Crystal palace again, check out Pizza at the Palace pizzaria. Best pizzas in London, no joke. I go down there just to get pizzas.
Loved the end lol
He really walked through the Water, awesome 😂😂😂
that duck prob was the only anatomically correct dinosaur in the entire park LOL
Love that image of the boys bowing to the statue of Darwin. Hilarious!
I never knew Aron Ra had been to the UK. Fucking hell, you didn't take him to Croydon did you?
Noooooooo! I was there 2 days later, could've met the man!
Aronra such a bad ass
Darwin witnessed the Royal Navy ship he was travelling on evolve into a Beagle before his very eyes. I don't think you can argue with evidence like that.
Hold the F^ng camera still!~~!! Got seasick watching this.
I am so happy the dinosaurs have become small headed balls of meat with wings, because I don't think I would do very well with the alternative.
The Darwin picture was most excellent.
Yea, that last one is good.
I can see the theist now looking at that last picture, “ah, we knew it!”, since they are all used to worshiping engraved images, it’s hard for them to imagine that everyone else doesn’t. This is why they’re sure that atheists must worship at the foot of a Charles Darwin statue. Great picture.
I take it that this place is the English equivalent to the creationist museum, minus Adam and Eve. ...and a penguin.
What a curious and interesting footnote in history, a funny example of irrational assumptions played out. At least this wasn't done in Kentucky in 2007.
DAL
lol...
I would never have even considered jumping the fence to pose beside them. I'm far too respectful of "the rules", and would have obediently stayed on the right side of the fence.
One of many reasons why Aron is cooler than me.
Kent's dream park.
6:11 if i ever get to go to london, i'll be sure to do that xD
bobby jager
i lived in London for a while, and I've never seen them!
and now only 69 miles away
my better half reminds me every time we are near.... one day
Aron should have brought some wellies.
I love the bowing to Charles Darwin.
the undertaker sure likes dinosaurs
"Not like any dinosaurs I've ever seen."
So, how many dinosaurs have you seen? ;)
BigFoot walked with the Dinos.
Well these things were made quite a long time ago and even if they are not correct they were pretty good works of art.
It is a shame that they have been left to rot rather than preserving them, did he get to see the gorilla everyone takes a look at the gorilla it's yet another great bit of art work.
For sure it would be better if these things were absolutely correct but like the man said they didn't have the knowledge then.
+flitsies They haven't been left to rot, they're Grade I listed buildings and get periodically restored. The last major restoration was in 2002.
2:37 A.D.D moment? It's ok, I'm like that too! :D
Baby duck ... See you saw a relative of a dinosaur ...
Bloody tourists! ;-)
Visiting those statues was my first holiday as a 3 or 4 year old child!
I love that Aran is enough of a bad boy to get his feet wet for those photos. And DPR, standing nervously as he does so!
You rebel Aron haha
Cheers, to DPR Jones!
It's Britain, so.....
...Hat?.......tick
...Coat?......tick
...Wellies?.........."Doh!!"
I think he scared the ducks!
Did you record this with a calculator or something? Jesus DPRpinecones, it's 2015!
9/11 was an insect job!
That's offensive! Insects wouldn't do something like that.
Nice bit at the end ha ha ... we are not worthy!
I imagine Aron feels very safe in the UK knowing law abiding Brits cannot carry handguns as opposed to Texas where people are recognized to have a right to defend themselves.
"Defend"
Terrible camera work, once they got to the park I had to stop watching, couldn't he just look at one thing for a few seconds and let the camera settle down?
Wow that fedora and edgy trench coat must have looked so out of place in england...
Jurassic World 4 - The Atheist Experience
So, so sorry...I admire both you guys, but all of this came out as awkward and uncomfortable. But, hey, the duckling cheered things up :)
ThunderfOOt, your a goose, but I love ya. Buy a decent camera mate.
LoL wrong guy
Well what do you know, proof that creationist ideas also evolve, their modern stuff has saddles on the dinosaurs!
All for Crystal fucking Palace? That place is beyond bleh
look at the caveman depicted standing next to the Dinosaurs!
hahha owee just walked across the water
I think this park is fine. Aron is wrong to knock ideas 150 years after the fact.
This was before The Origin of Species, after all, and I'm sure it kindled interest in what was not yet a Science. It's fine. If someone thinks it's Science, everyone can explain the Science must be established before making a call. If someone thinks it's not Science, you can point to similar Creationist theme parks. :) I say keep it!
Edit: I'm too late? They tore it down? Ach.
Paleontology was young and there were few answers then. Just because we have many answers 150 years later doesn't make it dishonest or dead wrong at the time. It was a park. It's fine.
Those who are not shallow realize this.
My point is that it's a little to easy to point out errors after 150 years of paleontology, especially with the level of conjecture we experience every decade within this field.
In 2165, shallow people may laugh at 2015 exhibits featuring Torosaurus and Triceratops as two separate species, or various colorful plumes for mating, or blood-filled ridges for which there is no hard evidence, and so on. Those dishonest 21st Century paleontologists, just look at that Smithsonian exhibit! What were they thinking?
Owen's bias was against anyone coming along trying to be a better naturalist than he. And he really was one of the finest naturalists before, during, and after this time, with an unrivalled expertise in fossils. His expertise and his ill-reputed personal traits are irrelevant to the design of these dinosaurs.
Hawkins, who sculpted the dinosaurs from current knowledge and his own knowledge in the field, could not just "stick to the bones" like modern exhibits do. He had to flesh out the dinosaurs, and he did the best he could with limited knowledge. This knowledge is still limited today. At the time, there was no consensus around a theory suggesting dinosaurs were bird-like in external appearance or behavior. So, quite naturally, this resulted in the quite "terrible lizards" presented in the Crystal Palace park.
The benefits of leather pants.
The final photo call will appear on a Christian website soon as proof that atheists do that whole worship thing...
you criminal!
wtf?? You went over the fence?? Very crass. I'm embarrassed for you. 'Typical American tourist". Oh that's right, you're from Texas. shame.