At the Battle of Waterloo, both the Duke of Wellington & Napoleon had Breguet watches. Most of the generals on both sides had Breguets. Abraham-Louis' watches were the best, and for coordinating armies, only the best would suffice. Cheers, Bill
Thanks for the informative video Bill, I think I've found my grail watch.... the XX Aeronavale. It ticks all the boxes for me anyway. I really appreciated your going the extra distance to provide a exact answer to the maintainence questions.
The Breguet XX Aeronavale has a Lemania 1350 movement with a flyback on the Aeronavale. Here's a short description of the movement: www.chronometrie.com/chronomovs/cm03.html ... The Ebel 1911 uses the same movement, and represents a much overlooked option-at half the price. (For example: www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwik1ZakrLHiAhUEgbMKHZwgDz8YABASGgJxbg&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2orZuDn69gSD1zLMquiCyr6lF_3WSKBnAUJVSbhKXtN6vjRADwQRy75OuKb4W6MiyakjOQN6cz46mB3hDAjQ&sig=AOD64_2B_GcNZGD3HIqaSue8rlcjY9UTvw&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwjy-4-krLHiAhUtheAKHW7YCIsQ9aACCEE&adurl= ) Kindest regards, Bill
Hell Bill Very interesting video. I have admired Breguet for a number of years and through various buying, selling and trading I currently do not own a chronograph. The Type Xx and Type XXI would certainly be solid choices.
Appreciate the efforts you put into bringing us so much great info Bill! As far as Breguet goes, I’ve fallen in love with the last generation of Marines - they also can be found for very reasonable prices for what you get
I love your calm and informative videos, thank you very much for creating this content. If ever I want to see a selection from a particular brand, this is the channel I come to.
I must admit, the Type XX I found most appealing was the one most closely resembling a Hanhart, which I’m told was the initial inspiration for the series.
Bréguet is the jewel of the crown of Swatch Group, it was managed by the son of the late founder of Swatch (now CEO of Swatch). Great history, huge inventions and innovations. I would put them in the top watches but not in the top brands, they need more efforts on marketing in my view. Not too blingy, low profile, only known and identified by connoisseurs , just my kind of watch. I aim to have the Chronométrie, won’t get it soon though (have a family to raise first) 😀😀. Thank you Bill, keep them coming.
The Breguet ref. 3807 is a beautiful watch to me since I am primarily a chronograph collector. The look of the Blancpain dial is very unusual, although the movement sounds interesting. Good video. Take care.
Hi Diggert, that Type XX is quite tempting. Keep in mind that Lemania made the movement in the Omega moon watch; so it's more than meets the eye, especially under Blancpain's wing. Kindest regards, Bill
You are right Blancpain & FP and Breguet & Lemania ... I always confuse the two even though the irony that Frederic Piguet once owned Blancpain before they were both bought by Swatch has always been clear as a bell! Thanks, Bill
Even the rotor on the classique are hand engraved on a rose engine plus the dial is silvered gold. Killer deal probably the best high horology watch in any category for the preowned price. For a little more you can get a beautiful sub seconds dial too. Great choices. The type xx to me is a good watch watch if your buying breguet go dress watch in my opinion
I've been looking around for a 5157 a lot lately - I wish I could find prices like those! About the best price I've found for used is around 9,500. I'll keep looking... it is a very nice watch.
It looks like they disappeared and shot up in price. Stocks are low in the new market too. Does not bode well for collectors. Hanging tight for now. Cheers, Bill
I have a friend of the family whom is swiss, and their family members all work for Breguet ... which is what got me interested in the brand years ago. Since then i've acquired Omega, Rolex, and even a Patek... but still no Breguet. I really like the dress watches but I tend to wear my chunky diver stuff more. I think this might be my next dress watch. Thanks Bill
Hey Cap'n! The Breguet Tradition has my attention too, but like you say, it's a dress watch ... and a very interesting one. You like chunky diver types, what about a Breguet Type XX that might double as a dress watch while being a sports watch? Cheers, Bill
For those that are interested, the _Armand The Watch Guy_ channel did a video last Novemeber entitled _Story of an Icon: (Breguet) Type XX Pilot's Chronograph History_ which (obviously) goes through the whole history of the Type XX from inception to the present day. Link: th-cam.com/video/PqNTBgc9564/w-d-xo.html
Like the execution of the details that is consistent on the classic. The crescent on the hands and the crescent shape plate on the movement due to the off-centered rotor.
As ever very interesting Bill. I'm very interested in Type XXs and Type 20/21s in general but always debate the most useable bezel for a pilot of light aircraft. I think military spec in the Type 20 spec was hour/count down. Some civil bezels were hour/count up, but Breguet have used a minute/count up in the 1990s remake which was a rare site in the history of the Type XX (though did appear briefly in the '50s). More we associate this with dive watches? Given your druthers, what would you spec as a pilot and watch man? I ask this as you can spec either at Dodane - one of the main builders of Type 20s.
James, I used to fly a Cessna 177B 'Cardinal' and about the most important thing a watch can have is Zulu time and big enough to read easily. What do you fly? Take care and be safe, Bill😷
@@watchartsci Hitherto, just motorcycles! I think learning to fly may be my '21 challenge. Weather and Covid permitting. Obviously, I'm starting serious aviation research not with (probably 177!) simulators, but by looking at watches... All best health!
Thanks Bill for the great informative video, i think Breguet Type XX and Classique 5157 are great watches, and also affordable to buy, but i think that servicing it might be the biggest issue, as it might cost a ton. What do you think a watch collector should look for before buying Breguet watches? Best, Abdul
Hey Abdul, the Breguets may not be too expensive for service. A complete service will run about $800, but that's only recommended ever 10 years. So figure about $80/year. If you plan to go into the water, you should have it tested for water-proofing every 2year, and that's about $300. Cheers, Bill
I've always seen Hayek as a smart businessman more than a watch guy ... but he may have had on the Breguet's as a nod to Abraham Louis Breguet whose name he acquired. Take care, Bill
Hey Tony, thanks man! I'm calling the NYC Boutique in NYC at 10am Eastern time and I'll ask them. However, the service prices and availability may be different where you are; so you can look up the Breguet shop, boutique, or service center at store.breguet.com/en/point-of-sale?country=2277®ion=All and ask them. I think it would be interesting to find the range of service prices around the world. Kindest regards, Bill
Hi Bill, I'm surprised that you didn't mention the Breguet Marine. Dressy but you can wear it all day every day. On a rubber strap it is a diver and on leather very dressy.
Bob, you're right about the versatility of the Marine, but at about $1-2k more expensive than the XX, it wasn't the "entry level" I wanted to look at for a Sports Watch. So I took one from sports and one from dress for entry level. A while back I covered the Marine as part of a more general review of Breguet ( th-cam.com/video/9-oPkOwHcBc/w-d-xo.html ). Kindest regards, Bill
Thank you, Bill, always informative. I know this video is 3 years old, but where can I find the best prices for these watches in condition 0? Thank you again
Hi Sinuhe78, Shopworn.com, Jomashop.com and Chrono24 are the best places to look ... especially if they have a 20% off sale. Just be patient and keep looking. Take care and be safe, Bill😷
Hi Mohammad, I found it on a shotgun search through Google. I was probably using "Classique" as the search term instead of "5157." Usually, the ones for that price tend to be pretty small. Here's a Classique for $4,100; www.chrono24.com/breguet/classic-classique--id8309298.htm Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci hey Bill Love your videos. The watch you are showing the link to is actully Quartz. Not the same one as in your video. On a positive note, i learned a lot from you. Much respecr for you and rhe content you develop. Aziz
James, I looked for it again and couldn't find the $4k Classique. It's probably in some online store that doesn't list in Chrono24 or eBay. Do a google search for Breguet Classique and see if you can find it. I'll do the same. Take care, Bill
Good question, but I don't have the answer. I once had to find a watchmaker to check out my Zenith; so I went here and found a master watchmaker who serviced it. It cost me $350. Check them out to find what they'd charge you to do a Breguet XX: members.awci.com/AWCIWEB/AWCISearch/MemberSearch.aspx Cheers, Bill
WatchArtSci thsnks, I'm actually in the UK but, was just curious! Another channel recently pointed out that servicing a Breguet can be quite expensive.
The Breguet Classique is truly beautiful. The epitome of a dress watch.
Thanks for the video. 5 stars for Breguet! What an amazing history. If I remember correctly Napoleon used to have one 😆
At the Battle of Waterloo, both the Duke of Wellington & Napoleon had Breguet watches. Most of the generals on both sides had Breguets. Abraham-Louis' watches were the best, and for coordinating armies, only the best would suffice. Cheers, Bill
Thanks for the informative video Bill, I think I've found my grail watch.... the XX Aeronavale. It ticks all the boxes for me anyway. I really appreciated your going the extra distance to provide a exact answer to the maintainence questions.
The Breguet XX Aeronavale has a Lemania 1350 movement with a flyback on the Aeronavale. Here's a short description of the movement: www.chronometrie.com/chronomovs/cm03.html ... The Ebel 1911 uses the same movement, and represents a much overlooked option-at half the price. (For example: www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwik1ZakrLHiAhUEgbMKHZwgDz8YABASGgJxbg&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2orZuDn69gSD1zLMquiCyr6lF_3WSKBnAUJVSbhKXtN6vjRADwQRy75OuKb4W6MiyakjOQN6cz46mB3hDAjQ&sig=AOD64_2B_GcNZGD3HIqaSue8rlcjY9UTvw&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwjy-4-krLHiAhUtheAKHW7YCIsQ9aACCEE&adurl= ) Kindest regards, Bill
Hell Bill
Very interesting video. I have admired Breguet for a number of years and through various buying, selling and trading I currently do not own a chronograph. The Type Xx and Type XXI would certainly be solid choices.
Hey Cap'n! I was thinking the same thing! Getting all misty about my old pilot days...Type XX might just scratch that itch! Cheers, Bill
Appreciate the efforts you put into bringing us so much great info Bill! As far as Breguet goes, I’ve fallen in love with the last generation of Marines - they also can be found for very reasonable prices for what you get
I love your calm and informative videos, thank you very much for creating this content.
If ever I want to see a selection from a particular brand, this is the channel I come to.
Hey Alex, thanks man. Cheers, bill
I must admit, the Type XX I found most appealing was the one most closely resembling a Hanhart, which I’m told was the initial inspiration for the series.
The Hanhart was an inspiration for the Type XX? That's interesting, Robert...Take care, Bill
Bréguet is the jewel of the crown of Swatch Group, it was managed by the son of the late founder of Swatch (now CEO of Swatch). Great history, huge inventions and innovations. I would put them in the top watches but not in the top brands, they need more efforts on marketing in my view. Not too blingy, low profile, only known and identified by connoisseurs , just my kind of watch. I aim to have the Chronométrie, won’t get it soon though (have a family to raise first) 😀😀. Thank you Bill, keep them coming.
Hi DG B, that is the perfect description of Breguet! Thank you! Kindest regards, Bill
4k used Wow! The Classique is one of my favorites from the line up. I just really like Breguet!
If you are fortunate enough to have a small wrist, you can find a Classique under 5k, Mike. Take care, Bill
The Breguet ref. 3807 is a beautiful watch to me since I am primarily a chronograph collector. The look of the Blancpain dial is very unusual, although the movement sounds interesting. Good video. Take care.
Thanks Bill. I have but a single chronograph-my Bovet Monorattrapante. I should probably look at one as well. Kindest regards, Bill
indeed very tempting and beautiful watches. I'd probably opt for that Type XX with the nice (former) Lemania Movement
Hi Diggert, that Type XX is quite tempting. Keep in mind that Lemania made the movement in the Omega moon watch; so it's more than meets the eye, especially under Blancpain's wing. Kindest regards, Bill
You mention Blancpain, but hasn't Blancpain integrated Frederic Piguet (while Breguet got Lemania)? I guess you meant Breguet ?!
You are right Blancpain & FP and Breguet & Lemania ... I always confuse the two even though the irony that Frederic Piguet once owned Blancpain before they were both bought by Swatch has always been clear as a bell! Thanks, Bill
Interesting, I did not know the latter - that Frederic Piguet owned Blancpain :)
Hey Bill,
I learned a lot today.
Hi RP, thanks man! Are you thinking of getting a Type XX or a Classique? Kindest regards, Bill
Even the rotor on the classique are hand engraved on a rose engine plus the dial is silvered gold. Killer deal probably the best high horology watch in any category for the preowned price. For a little more you can get a beautiful sub seconds dial too. Great choices. The type xx to me is a good watch watch if your buying breguet go dress watch in my opinion
Yes, Chapman, that Classique is a much overlooked gem! Cheers, Bill
That's a really good price on the Classique, it's a beautiful watch for sure Bill!
My problem is that there are too many great watches! Thanks man, Cheers,Bill
I've been looking around for a 5157 a lot lately - I wish I could find prices like those! About the best price I've found for used is around 9,500. I'll keep looking... it is a very nice watch.
It looks like they disappeared and shot up in price. Stocks are low in the new market too. Does not bode well for collectors. Hanging tight for now. Cheers, Bill
I have a friend of the family whom is swiss, and their family members all work for Breguet ... which is what got me interested in the brand years ago. Since then i've acquired Omega, Rolex, and even a Patek... but still no Breguet. I really like the dress watches but I tend to wear my chunky diver stuff more. I think this might be my next dress watch. Thanks Bill
Hey Cap'n! The Breguet Tradition has my attention too, but like you say, it's a dress watch ... and a very interesting one. You like chunky diver types, what about a Breguet Type XX that might double as a dress watch while being a sports watch? Cheers, Bill
Nice one Bill.
Hey NSsomething! Thanks man! Cheers, Bill
For those that are interested, the _Armand The Watch Guy_ channel did a video last Novemeber entitled _Story of an Icon: (Breguet) Type XX Pilot's Chronograph History_ which (obviously) goes through the whole history of the Type XX from inception to the present day.
Link: th-cam.com/video/PqNTBgc9564/w-d-xo.html
Like the execution of the details that is consistent on the classic. The crescent on the hands and the crescent shape plate on the movement due to the off-centered rotor.
Jas Hoo, which model are you referring to? Thanks, Bill
5157
If you were to get a type xx, would you go date or no date? Keep the videos coming!
Hey Stranger, I'd go no date. Cleaner. Take care and be safe, Bill😷
As ever very interesting Bill. I'm very interested in Type XXs and Type 20/21s in general but always debate the most useable bezel for a pilot of light aircraft. I think military spec in the Type 20 spec was hour/count down. Some civil bezels were hour/count up, but Breguet have used a minute/count up in the 1990s remake which was a rare site in the history of the Type XX (though did appear briefly in the '50s). More we associate this with dive watches? Given your druthers, what would you spec as a pilot and watch man? I ask this as you can spec either at Dodane - one of the main builders of Type 20s.
James, I used to fly a Cessna 177B 'Cardinal' and about the most important thing a watch can have is Zulu time and big enough to read easily. What do you fly? Take care and be safe, Bill😷
@@watchartsci Hitherto, just motorcycles! I think learning to fly may be my '21 challenge. Weather and Covid permitting. Obviously, I'm starting serious aviation research not with (probably 177!) simulators, but by looking at watches... All best health!
Thanks Bill for the great informative video, i think Breguet Type XX and Classique 5157 are great watches, and also affordable to buy, but i think that servicing it might be the biggest issue, as it might cost a ton. What do you think a watch collector should look for before buying Breguet watches?
Best,
Abdul
Hey Abdul, the Breguets may not be too expensive for service. A complete service will run about $800, but that's only recommended ever 10 years. So figure about $80/year. If you plan to go into the water, you should have it tested for water-proofing every 2year, and that's about $300. Cheers, Bill
WatchArtSci that's actually very affordable and reasonable. I thought it might cost more.
The CEO founder Nicolas G. Hayek of the swatch, when he die had a breguet on both wrists. Why you think so?
Best of Best.
I've always seen Hayek as a smart businessman more than a watch guy ... but he may have had on the Breguet's as a nod to Abraham Louis Breguet whose name he acquired. Take care, Bill
Another excellent video Bill! Really like the type xx what about service costs though?
Hey Tony, thanks man! I'm calling the NYC Boutique in NYC at 10am Eastern time and I'll ask them. However, the service prices and availability may be different where you are; so you can look up the Breguet shop, boutique, or service center at store.breguet.com/en/point-of-sale?country=2277®ion=All and ask them. I think it would be interesting to find the range of service prices around the world. Kindest regards, Bill
@@watchartsci Cheers Bill I live in the UK
Will check out the link!
Best Regards
Hi Bill, I'm surprised that you didn't mention the Breguet Marine. Dressy but you can wear it all day every day. On a rubber strap it is a diver and on leather very dressy.
Bob, you're right about the versatility of the Marine, but at about $1-2k more expensive than the XX, it wasn't the "entry level" I wanted to look at for a Sports Watch. So I took one from sports and one from dress for entry level. A while back I covered the Marine as part of a more general review of Breguet ( th-cam.com/video/9-oPkOwHcBc/w-d-xo.html ). Kindest regards, Bill
Thank you, Bill, always informative. I know this video is 3 years old, but where can I find the best prices for these watches in condition 0? Thank you again
Check these out Lee-www.jomashop.com/breguet-watches.html Take care, Bill
Wonderful video and wonderful watches!. Could you please say where did you find such amazing prices? Thank you very much!
Hi Sinuhe78, Shopworn.com, Jomashop.com and Chrono24 are the best places to look ... especially if they have a 20% off sale. Just be patient and keep looking. Take care and be safe, Bill😷
Bill , where did you find Breguet 5157 for 4000 $ ? was it ebay ? or chrono 24 ?
Hi Mohammad, I found it on a shotgun search through Google. I was probably using "Classique" as the search term instead of "5157." Usually, the ones for that price tend to be pretty small. Here's a Classique for $4,100; www.chrono24.com/breguet/classic-classique--id8309298.htm Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci hey Bill
Love your videos. The watch you are showing the link to is actully Quartz. Not the same one as in your video.
On a positive note, i learned a lot from you. Much respecr for you and rhe content you develop. Aziz
Thanks man! Cheers, Bill
From what I heard, the Type XX is not finished to the same level as the 5157.
Hi James, that sounds about right; especially since the 5157 costs almost exactly twice what the Type XX does (AD retail). Kindest regards, Bill
I would pick the 5157 for sure.
The 5157 is with Frederic Piguet movement.
James, I looked for it again and couldn't find the $4k Classique. It's probably in some online store that doesn't list in Chrono24 or eBay. Do a google search for Breguet Classique and see if you can find it. I'll do the same. Take care, Bill
WatchArtSci I spent almost one hour looking for it but no success.
Señor Sanders.... What about the servicing costs on these "entry level" Breguets? ;)
Good question, but I don't have the answer. I once had to find a watchmaker to check out my Zenith; so I went here and found a master watchmaker who serviced it. It cost me $350. Check them out to find what they'd charge you to do a Breguet XX: members.awci.com/AWCIWEB/AWCISearch/MemberSearch.aspx Cheers, Bill
WatchArtSci thsnks, I'm actually in the UK but, was just curious! Another channel recently pointed out that servicing a Breguet can be quite expensive.
Which channel was that? I'd like to see what they have to say. Thanks, Bill
Here it is:
th-cam.com/video/LnxSTlp-6N0/w-d-xo.html
Now I'm curious too. Give the London Breguet Boutique a call tomorrow at +44 20 7355 1735 . Then let me know! Thanks, Bill
$4000 for a Brequet classic 5157 is a good deal.
Sounds good to me, Ann. Take care, Bill