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Dude your channel is very underrated, you are always so fun to watch!
I agree man..
I agree with your conclusion. There's a good reason why Bird use Xiaomi M365 scooters. They are solid, robust, reliable and reasonably priced. Just to let you know: Your creative and editing skills are awesome. 🎬🎥👍
Cheers Gordon! Yes they do use these as a majority (there also comparable cheap!)
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And a good reason why lime & breezy use the ES2.
Bird uses ES2 too.
All if not most switch to using the es2 instead of xiaomi because inefficient
jesus christ thats hella editing for 10 k subs youll be at the top in no time keep it up
yeah he is a wizard at it.
Edit some Carly porn
ceebs boy ffs 🤣
@@ceebsboy1590 lmaoo
Great editting loved the review, now this is what I call a great video keep up the good work;)
Gosiora Marylyric Ibegbunem Thanks Gosiora!
My 16 year old bought the Ninebooth ES2 today but it was a defective so we could not ride it (it was dead) BUT hopefully tomorrow we get a great new one in the store. Can’t wait to try it ! Sadly it will rain a LOT tomorrow. Can you use these while it is raining ? We live in Norway so we can get a lot of surprise rain 😎 LOVE watching your channel! Say hello to Mouse!
Nice Job mate..!! loved it... got myself the S2 thks to this vid..
Nice one dude!
A word of advice about the brakes on ninebot: it requires a bit of getting used to because i almost died once crossing a street, i needed to brake but i was used to bike brake sono missed the brake and almost got hit by a car 🧐 GET USED TO IT FIRST! love your vids man 😉
Such a great editing! And awesome contents!!! Subscribed :D
Yeah, I'm a m365 fan eheh
Thanks man 👊🏻
Now you deserve more subs, you deserve it man! Keep it up!
Mad props from one Ben to another. You need a TV show with Mouse! So cute. I like the Segway so fun.
I definitely prefer ninebot bc of all the features, easy using, etc
Always amazing videos! Thanks for making them ;)
Jonathan Adami Thank you Sir!! 💪🏻💪🏻
😁👍 great video Ben...
I just ordered the ES2
And then I hear all these diss's thrown straight at it 😮😮
With the es2 when you are going fast and you try to brake you are probsbly hoing to die 😂
Zackeroo HQ Dont worry man. I got mine at its all fine. Im having so much fun with my es2. And i think the breaking is fine. It does it quick enough. Right now i can 100% recommend it. Its easy to go in public transport with it. And just so much fun and smooth to ride :)
@@reconcile1235 Yea the ES2 seems mad, and I can't wait till it arrives in like 2 days...
Only issue is... It's ILLEGAL IN MY STATE 🤣🤣
So I'm going to have go be in stealth mode lol
i bought an es1 because i dont want to lift that god damn thing if i ever get punctured when commuting to work
Segway Ninebot is the best! That's why I'm ambassador for it in the Netherlands! :)
Even if its illegal, LOL
Idk about you Ben but my Xiaomi gets 10 miles on normal carrying over 250lbs (I have a soundboks 2 strapped to my back I'm not that fat)...& on eco flux between 16-18 miles. Also flashed the firmware to go faster not torque but speed wise so on normal it tops out at 19.8 mph easily & eco tops out at 15.5 mph with the 250lbs payload.
Bass Junkie Yeah same! I’m always carrying stuff too which makes a difference (should of mentioned that!)
The Lidl scooter looked promising, German manufactured, Speedo, rear wheel drive, solid rubber tyres, 24kmh, shame they never ended up getting stock despite showing online and in the in-store brochure, apparently it will now feature at a later date. It reminded be of the ninebot but with rear wheel drive.
Stephen Hynen Let me know if u get hold of one!
@@BenFox01 Hi, turned up at Lidl oswestury store today at 8am only to be told there was a supply problem and they will now feature at a later date. I have the M365 from halfords but really wanted the scooter from Lidl as a backup.
If it helps this is the scooter in question www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cat-e-adult-electric-scooter-17999-lidl-120kg-weight-limit-available-from-4th-of-april-3205432
Or here would have been a bargain at £180. catberlin.de/produkt/kickster-s/
I have the xiaomi 365 and a love it and a love your youtube Chanel to
Thanks!!
Umm i actually prefere NINEBOT SEGWAY cuz YOU KNOW THOSE EXPOSED WIRES LOOK VERY UN NEAT....... ninebot wins
They support xioami
Adrian Miskowiec obviously
Three reasons I won't purchase an electric scooter at this time: Most current available scooters do not have adequate foot space to stand in a proper upright position with some space between each foot. At any speed, a proper suspension system must be used to reduce the amount of jostling between the ground and the vehicle. And the long term use must be durable enough to last more than 3 years. I find that the average scooter that is used daily materially breaks down within 6 months so I will wait until there's a history behind each scooter type to inform me what maintenance issues I need to confront so I can tolerate the repair and replacements costs of usage. I think people don't anticipate how long the battery life is for the nonreplaceable scooter models. If you can DIY repair and replace, then that situation is a plus.
Thank you! Great review:-)
Saludos desde Perú 🇵🇪 amigo
Te ganaste un nuevo suscriptor 😌
Nice video n comparison.. love both
Hi Ben.
Just ordered a new scooter this time a Joyor y5-s with a good suspension will arrive after Easter.
Have made a view test drives say about 30 km and I love it, a great scooter a little more expensive but you get all you need to commute from home to work.
jo lo Sounds cool! Would like to review so less known scooters too
nice vid you deserve more subs! 15k 30/7/19
pls buy an extra battery on ES4 and then make review :p I just bought ES4 and i'm waiting for it, i'm scared a little bit of the mainboard failures but it was too late when i found out about them... I decided to buy ES4 because i enjoyed riding them on rental, and because I didn't like the look of the xiaomi :D But now when I'm reading about these "headlight issues" and melting cables im really scared :( I really hope I will not regret my decision
I do plan on getting an extendable battery soon! Hope you dont have any problems either!
@@BenFox01 And how long and often you use your ES2, did you have any problems with it until now? (i'm new in ur channel xd)
You don't seem to mention that the Segway "brake" is regenerative. It's not really a brake, it just adds resistance due to the generator. It's like taking your foot off the accelerator in a Tesla. That's a very important difference you didn't make clear. Otherwise, nice review.
both have this feature
ninebot es max vs xiaomi m365 pro?
Hi Man, I appreciate the review. Can you just tell me if you can kick push both scooters when you are out of battery ? Thanks in advance.
Ahhh good point! The Ninebot is easier to kick with - the Xiaomi has more resistance!
@@BenFox01 Thanks a lot for your fast reply. :))
Segway-Ninebot is best
İ have ninebot es2 it’s so fast vehicle!!!
Yey! Carly loves M365! Ben... you're cute!
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The ninebot Es2 28 km top speed and Xiaomi m365 25km
On my xiaomi I have my regen braking set to medium and can achieve 14 miles at 76kg.
Stephen Hynen in top speed mode?
@@BenFox01 Hi, yes set to top speed. this video will give you an idea of the roads I use my scooter on, as you will see it is up and down slight hills, with regen braking set to medium I find I don't have to pull the back brake accept for emergency stop. Video is not the best quality but will give you an idea. th-cam.com/video/wD96kO0fYLc/w-d-xo.html
Ben what's the name of the m365 app? I'm in London and I couldn't find it in google app store
Tinfed xiaomi home or M365 plus
Sir in the ninebot you can turn in recovery level strong then it brakes harder and faster
You can also turn the recovery level to strong on the Xiaomi M365, although I wouldnt recommend it as it is more prone to killing the controller
Thanks
Details 2:00
Brake test 6:43
Acceleration test 7:02
Hill test 7:29
Speed test 7:50
Opinion 8:00
Ride quality 11:30
Thanks
Cheers
No range test
Sorban Cristofor I love people that do stuff like this thx
Thanks for copying
Him: runs away. Her: I'm gonna sell these. 😂
Bang harga nyya bgeba
next video: m365 pro vs m365
next video after that: m365 pro vs es4 (es2 + extended battery)
Then ...vs Segway Ninebot Max
You didnt cover problem with fixing holes on tires..its almost impossible when you get a punctured (spelling ?) tire ,much better with the Nineboth that cant get punctures
i donated my £3 id love this to change
Bought xiaomi m365 pro it was awesome until i got flat tire. Tube replacement is nightmare, after 2nd tube replacement I sold it and bought ninebot ES4. Maby it's less comfortable it has worse breaks but I am riding without any problem.
Agree. Its a pain in the arse to replace the punctured tyres & tubes, and that's why you have to bring it into your local bike shop for the service.
I was torn between these two as well, the deciding factor for me was a lot of people were having issues with the "folding portion" breaking while they were riding, putting the rider in danger. Also, the ES2 had solid wheels, which I was looking for. I know you can change the Xiaomi's tires out for solid ones. I eventually went with the ES4 for the extended power and range.
Just starting to look into these, so this was helpful. One thing I didn’t see mentioned was how the placement of the battery might effect the stability and handling. That might be why Carly felt safer, sturdier and more in control on the Xiaomi; lower center of gravity and you are not flipping the weight of a battery around as you steer and lean.
Thanks Ben...Ben's Brother...and of Course Carly 'the wise one' who unlike the Politicians can make a decisive decision ... always love watching your content on TH-cam...Yeah...Carly deserves her Coffee ....
Good video, I ride a xoimi in the uk and I apriciate what you are doing to try and legalise them because it would be nice to be able to ride it without looking out for police 😂👍
Sahil Narsinh so far I haven’t had the problem but that’s what I plan to do if it does happen😂
Don't buy this scooter. We had two regular and pro versions. After 2,500 km, the bearings will be so loud that it is impossible to drive. Bearings practically impossible to replace. Will start to violin, tap. The brake cable will break. It will stop charging. Replacing a punctured inner tube is a nightmare . My friends scooter broke down after 1200 km. The Xiomi warranty covers virtually nothing. We shipped under warranty. They demanded 3/4 of the value of the scooter for the repair of a faulty loud motor of no known fault. Stay away these Chinese scooter
Thanks for these videos men, you helped me make my mind about buying a scooter and about which one to choose. By the way, I hope you’ve got Carlz that coffee, she deserves it. She makes your videos twice as good.
CHEERS BRO
Great review man, made me laugh, great editing skills too!
Thanks Adam!
Awesome production skills, content and personalities. Loved it! It has helped me decide on buying the ES2 to get around Sydney.
Thank you very much! 🇦🇺🙌🏻
Noice 👍 I was waiting for this comparison. I have an M365 with m365downg firmware, and I love trolling people on Bird scooters.
I would love to do that to if i had this scooter 😂
Also i subbed to you 😉
I dont believe that a Xiaomi m365 is faster than a ninebot es2 if you use the slowest mode you will lose did you put es2 in sport mode???/
Yeah and segway model had 300w motor(xiaomi has 250w only)
p0tat0es_nation 250w of usage, 500w power
Xiaomi is way faster than a es2
But if you install cfw on es2 it can goes up to 34kmh. And if you do a glitch without doing any modifications to your scooter you can go up to 37kmh when the battery is full
Happy to help foxy!! AMAZING video as always 🙌🏼
Scooter Famous
10:15 we are not worthy, we are not worthy
Hahaha
Make some videos Carly! You seem lovely!
Unfortunately Carly is away for 6 weeks so she might not be making an appearance for while!
Just started watching your videos while looking for a scooter and I must say you're entertaining and very informative and you're London based, that's 3 strikes.... Subscribed!
Excellent video ! Good content, amazing professional editing, and incredible jump at 13:06 !
(and yes, the Xiaomi is the better scooter)
I hope the "Zero emissions" Tee has nothing to do with the scooters.. Anyway this e-scooter hype seems like the worst scam ever regarding just that. They are thrown away after only months of use (I heard two.. TWO..). Customers are ditching them everywhere even in rivers. Lithium-in batteries contain rare earth metals from Kongo wich is a very very dirty trade. Theese metals will only be available about ten more years. Its a finite resource but entire units are scrapped very early probably to guarantee the safety of riders. On a daily basis they are picked up and placed out by cars driving around doing only that. The enviromental aspects of this is a complete scam. One cannot say the clientele otherwise would have taken their cars since this is a market creating new behaviours. They are marketed as an alternative to walking. Ride them but stop perpetuating the "zero emissions" misconception/lie...
Love you guys! Amazing chemistry/dynamic.
And that prod/editing 😳😳😳🔥🔥🔥
Love watching your videos,you’re the uk’s ambassador for scooters( still waiting for you to say draconian though 🤪)
🧛♂️ Yes but it has to be used in the right context 🧛♀️
Thanks to this video I'm totally getting a xiaomi in 1 week. Really thank you
Amazing! Happy scooting 🙌🏻
Best review of these scooters I’ve ever seen. Nice
Thanks so much!!
Just got the ninebot today, loving it so far, smooth ride and i didn’t realize how quick it was wow
Congrats! 🛴
Ben Fox Ben can I ask you honestly which would you pick if the two, do they really go the same speed? I got the ninebot but my Mrs love it aswell, I’ve a chance of a xoimi m365 for a bit cheaper than what I paid, would you recommend getting it it just get another ninebot, I’d appreciate your input
Next video should be ES2 with battery (ES4) and m365 pro. I have a ES4 raced a guy on a m365 and smoked him 🛴💨
Haha good plan
The segway is pretty crap in terms of build quality tho... also cost way more.
The Ninebot ES4 is faster due to it going beyond the 25km p/hr speed barrier, and I assume the Xiaomi Pro should go beyond 25km p/hr but no it doesn't lol.
Martin Kargo Kind off disagree with your opinion, ninebot is metal all the way, easier folding mechanism, suspension, solid wheels, no external cables, more compact folder in and better display. Also does it offer the function to upgrade with a topspeed of 31km/h. Brakes do need getting used to. I drive my es4 to work with my colleague who owns a M365 I have to slow down constantly it’s really a lot quicker.
@@lionelfranklin4529 A fair comparison would be of the ES4 and the M365 Pro. There M365 Pro is still a lot cheaper than the ES4 and with unlocked speed the M365 goes as fast as the ES4. Then i'd say you have the best of both worlds. Also there are many bad reports regarding the steering mechanism on the es2/4. Saying that it gets loose over time (and quite bad actually). The M365 is not without its flaws but in terms of price/quality it's a clear winner in my book.
Range test:
Ninebot 12.2km - "I had to manually scoot home"
Xiaomi 15.9km - " I had to take a bus"
I am confused? Was it a different route?
Seems like the zoom stryder ex is still the king :)
Hahah I get you! Yes I took the Xiaomi on a longer route! ( I filmed a range test but never edited it instead included it in here) . Yes I would like to do a range battle with a few different scooters
@@BenFox01 it depends if exist a lot of hill or downhill, on my m365 in normal mode my max range was 20/25 km and daily i do approx 16 km and in the end have 30% of battery
There should be fusion of the two it would make the ultimate scooter with the esthetique of the ninebot and the power and liabilty of the xiaomi.
Another TH-camr who deserves more recognition than he has got
Bloody Great Video. Carley is cool too! Great Duo!
I like to see a M365 Pro compared to an M365 that has had the firmware modded. Obviously the pro would have a greater range, but I'd be keen to see acelleration top speed etc. Great video btw, keep them coming
Next video!
so with the extendable batteries on the Segway, could you in theory carry a few of them charged up and swap um at the side of the road?
This was my idea... I really think electric scooters should have swappable batteries like drones do so if you’re in an emergency you can get the spare battery out.
Modify it to take an additional battery, you will have a better experience.
Mate. Scooter review videos are not supposed to be funny. I just can't. Also, #M365forever!
I'm very enthusiastic about these electric scooters (hence why I watch your epicly produced videos). I use mine daily to get to work and have put about 600kms on it in about three months. It does 20km or just above (perhaps 21km if you're lucky) on a single charge in 'normal' mode, though it's noticeably down on power after the battery goes below 50%. Eco mode will deliver the 30km range but it'll take you between now and the end of time to get anywhere because the speed and torque are so reduced. Brussels, where I live (UK expat, you see) has about the same frequency of hills as London, and up those hills you can totally forget ecomode.
The thing with the M365 is that while it's solidly built, they've made some odd design choices, such as the charging port being a bit crap, and the brake light cable at the back contacting the wheel (my rear light gradually went dimmer and after perhaps 40kms of use has stopped working entirely) Moreover, they don't tell you that you absolutely have to adjust the brake cable at the back because otherwise it doesn't actually work and you will be killed to death if you need to emergency brake - ditto the tyres, which out of the box are under-inflated and need to be pumped up to like....45psi/3.5 bar to prevent punctures. The ***most*** grievous flaw is this: everything on the scooter is waterproof, EXCEPT the button right at the top of the stem that turns it on. If water gets in, which it might when it, err, rains, it will short the circuit board and the scooter will die. Given that it rains 120% of the time in Belgium, this is a problem, and it killed my first M365 on its second outing.
On the plus side, there are a lot of accessories for the Xiaomi, such as handlebar bags, phone holders and I, for the princely sum of 3 quid, bought a metre of AA-battery LED lights from Aliexpress and now have "cool" changing lights on my M365, like it has on the ES2. And once you've attended to the various flaws (pumping up the tyres, regular adjusting of the brake cable, replacement of the rear lights with bog standard bike lights, gaffer tape over the button) it seems to run reliably (touch wood).
Edit: also: Yay for #CarlysOpinion! Thanks again for the vids. Did you buy her the coffee?
Hahah Im a big fan of Gaffa tape! Great comments thanks for sharing those 🛴
Hey! I agree with everything you said, and while the M365 definitely has some issues it's still one of the best for the price. I wanted to ask, how did you install the lights (like on the ES2)?! I've always been very jealous of that... cheers
Clever comments, you're pointing crucial criterias out.
With some experience, I'd also add...
Even though you carry 2 or 3 spare tubes, what if you puncture them all ? Don't laugh or nod, that happened to millions of commuters. And have you ever tried changing a tube under heavy rain, fiddling with those tools, getting those hands dirty, turning those cleaned and ironed garments into proper rags ?
Maintaining and servicing disc brakes is not (at all) an easy thing. And when, by a miracle no one has ever seen, you manage to slip those brake pads where it is nearly impossible to slip them... did you succesfully adjust them, so they actually operate and stop you without the squeeky sound of a dying squirel ?!
What happens when water gets into the charging port (located at the worst place ever) ? If battery pack and/or BMS gets soaked... get ready for some serious repair. Not asking if that happens to the stem-top button, you said so. And I don't see myself buying another scooter just to compensate for some engineer's lack of inspiration.
Then... tail light cable being worn to death by the wheel (what an error during designing stages, not spotted along quality control stages). Well, apart from being mandatory (or soon to be just about everywhere), that also IS a life-saver feature. And again, no... I don't see myself buying old me another life (?!) to compensate [well, you get my point]...
So, really... the M365 is a clear and undisputed winner ? With or without gaffer tape, I'm doubting.
@@emanuelbaldestein3879 I went on aliexpress...1m of LED lighting with battery case = 4€. They have glue on the back and I then double sided sticky taped the strip around the sides. Works really well given that it cost so little.
Your videos are amazing Ben! Not very often that I laugh at TH-cam-videos :D Recieved my Xiaomi today and after a 10 km testdrive; I’m completely in love! Greetings from Sweden mate! ✌️✌️
Xino Ximo Hahah Thanku! Check out my Midsummer videos 🇸🇪
Funkar den fortfarande bra? Står i valet mellan den och en es2
First time watcher, you're hilarious. I love the way you tease Carly so funny lololol
Corny intro but I loved the video overall, subbed bud!
And FOR YOUR OWN SAKE!
USE YOUR HEAD! PROTECT YOUR HEAD! KEEP USING YOUR HEAD!
Win.
Is all very well but you were all breaking the LAW!
Because in the UK you can´t ride a E-scooter anywere except private land.
YES!!!
Isn't it the most IDIOTIC thing you ever heard?
Police can seized the scooter from you and place you a fine.
But not if it's an e bike!
Go figure!!!
That’s a great comparison, thank you :) - I ended up going for the ES2, reasons are: currently they are the same price on aliexpress, if you don’t want flat tires you need to put solid tires on the m365 which makes it very harsh without a suspension, the es2 is quicker to fold when going on public transport, I love having the option to attach a battery quickly for that longer ride, seems like more modern tech with regen braking, display, lights, less exposed wiring, etc.
Great points! Yes its very public transport friendly! I will test the extended battery too
Same here rgaufman. I ended up buying es2 just yesterday.. how was the scooter after 9mos?
Great comparison Ben.. all the specs well explained! new subscriber here! Love watching all your videos.. great editing 😍😍😍
ES3 with deal package at Costco for less and get extra battery and power.
Great vid! New to this and looking into buying the M365. Thing is, I also want to use it as a regular kickbike a lot of the time, are they a good choice for that? Thx!
ES2 has a bag handle & won’t get a puncture. ES2 is quicker to fold down & folds lower which is handy for putting in the boot of your car.
true dat!
Does the ninebot es2 have any issues? Im considering buying one in Denmark.
PLEASE teach carly not to stand like that on the scooter! That is VERY dangerous!
I got the ninebot ES2 and got to 34km/hour (down hill).
thank you for the video it's really helpful
definitely the video I looking for
ronni robert My Pleasure Ronni
The ES2 has regenerative braking. That's why it doesn't have a traditional brake lever. Will increase range, but probably not by much.
M365 has system "KERS" is a regenerative breaking too...
m365 best thing happend in my life xD
i never leave my home wihtout.
Just bought mine last week I'm going everywhere with it
Jay Jay 106 Do they have problems with air tires?
With ninebot there’s two things that bothers me. 1 main board issues 2. Cant change internal battery
Have fun getting flats on xiaomi with zero suspension.
Lmao mines still 100/100 🙂
Good video and your production is getting better every time. 👍👌
Love this guy. He's clearly a talent on the rise. I'd watch him review products I have zero interest in buying.
Scott Lacy Thanks Scott! What a nice comment 🙌🏻 Appreciate ur support!
Amazing edition +++ Skills, I forget what I was searching and get into the film. Love Brit Style +++ Thanks from Argentina, for your effort and for sharing your experience. Martin Pförtner.
Whooo! Thanks for watching and commenting from 🇦🇷🙌🏻
Can either e-scoots be recommended for a heavy set person around the weight of 100 kg?
Team Zoom, still! Another great video! Legalise them in the UK, please! I don't want a fine for being eco friendly!
Darn tooting!!! I love that - NO FINE 🌍
I have a xiaomi pro model with a 600w motor a top speed of 35kmh and a 45km range! And it cost me $560AUD with a 5 year warranty. And i have to say it's pretty fast.....
You can mod m365 with external battery and 10” tires. Which will make ride smooth and x2 the range.
how
@@liammather3868 how what?
What are these prices?? These scooters cost around 300$ in Russia now. Did the price drop that much, or is it some kind of policy? Usually, things cost more in Russia due to transportation costs and custom taxes, but then again, everything is made in China and it is cheaper to transport them here.
I forgot that if you wanted another battery for the Xiaomi check out RollerPlausche channel here on You Tube.
I would say ninebot
I still don’t know on which one to decide, xiaomi m365 pro or es2, could you tell me in your opinion which one is better for younger people that go for shorter rides
Oh btw and in an urban area with (ok roads)
The best intro doesn't exi....
Haha thankyou! Nostalgic watching that again!
It’s all good but during the test.
I would love it if u labeled which scooter is which.
It’s kind of hard to tell since they look so similar.
Getting flat tires on the Xiaomi is the worst thing in the world, and it happens a lot.
Where we up to with the e scoot trials ? Been a year now of tiptoing around on mine, be nice to feel relaxed using it like my e-bike does , come on Britain legalise them !!!