You don't need to go to the movies to watch a horror movie just watch one of these lol. They sure scare the hell out of me. Respect for all that does this.
Sid, Thanks so much for posting these episodes.I have listened to a number of the interviews you conducted on the BCRA website. I have also read a lot of the materials on the history of British cave exploration. (I am a Canadian.) It has been very satisfying to get a more personal look at the work that had been being done.
I'm watching this at 2am, 33years after its release... my cat knocked over my lamp and in pitch black, in my own house, I freaked the fuck out cause I couldn't find my last few beers in the dark..... these guys are insane! Brave or crazy? Who knows, but know this, I've got a second light as backup just in case.
Around 5 mins into the narration a major technical blunder is apparent. Using air instead of Oxygen would have negligible effect on narcosis (as mis-stated), but Oxygen toxicity can occur as shallow as 20ft for pure O2 (PO2=1.6), whereas the equivalent depth for Air toxicity (21%O2) is 225ft in fresh water. CNS Toxicity causing seizures is the limiting factor, not narcosis which is only a significant factor much below 100ft.
I am shocked as to they knew the dangers of diving without a safety line but finding there line coverd in muck that they dove without laying a new line higher on the cave wall...
Sid, I have no idea 🤷♂️ how in the world you do this. I am dead serious. It’s one thing to go down in caves that you can walk in while standing up-right the entire time. Or, go down in some caves that you may have to stoop over for a good long ways which is definitely not good for your back as we get older. But it’s an entirely different arena when you go down in these caves that you guys go in, that for all intents and purposes, the opening that you are crawling through, appears to be, no bigger than our residential Dryer doors or, washing machine door top or the side door washing machines over here. The reason I say it like this is years ago one of the many times that I was in the port of Glasgow, I met an absolutely wonderful SCOTTISH LADY, so beautiful, full of class. and over that weekend, and all the other times my ship was in port, we dated. And her washer / dryer stacked on top of one another, and they was the smallest things I have ever seen! I am dead serious Sid. Up until that time, it wasn’t until about 10 years later I didn’t see anything like that again until over here in the states. I was at a home furnishing expo in the Colosseum of Billings Montana. And they had some that looked exactly like the ones that Nessa owned. I was in the equivalent of the British Merchant Navy. I worked for www.amo-union.org/ during my entire career. I retired as a, “Relief Captain / First Mate, Chief Mate. Both titles concerning the Mate, is one and the same. And the 2 separate titles, Captain / Chief Mate, means that I would be very willing to sail on any vessel in either position. Might surprise you to know that not many men back when I went to Sea, that reached either of the levels would ever do that. A Captain 👨✈️, would never do what is called moving-down. Which would be beneath most of them, because they have such a big ego. I didn’t. I come from blue collar working class good Christian folks. My father had been in the Navy back during the Korean War and he retired, as a Captain. But he didn’t go to the Naval Academy, or the Merchant Marine Academy. Which is the back-door way to getting into the Navy with an officers rank. Because the Merchant Marine Academy, is a four-year Academy and it’s patterned along the lines of our naval academy. He worked his way up, took / passed all the requisite exams and, happened to be in the right place at the right time he told me. Off and on during his life time. In closing, you make absolutely stunning!!! Caving videos!! They actually should be titled, “EXTREME-CAVING”. Btw = by the way from the videos I’ve watched from years ago, do some of the men and women from back then that you was friends with, do they still go in the caves??
I get tired of hearing people say that these people have a death wish, crazy, stupid etc. Also that 'its frightening, I'd never do that, this should be banned etc'. If everyone was wrapped in cotton wool humans would never achieve anything. If your smart, listen to the rules, do go do stupid stuff... you'll generally be OK. Driving down the highway and someone having worked a double shift coming the other way scares me way more than something that is totally within my control. People are off their heads.
Still hard to understand what makes one want to do something like this. Even harder to grasp back then not having the technology like today. Wouldn't you have to be some what crazy or something?
Kim berly that was curring edge tech at time. No one knew any different. So really no in short to your answer. We are driven my sheer will. He was just being the dirst of his time.
@@johnapples2018 the need to explore is a basic human instinct. It's part of our shared humanity. Part of our greatness and hubris. Risk and reward. Shall we also be fearful of outer space? No. There will always be explorers and those willing to push the limit. It's how we evolve.
"Caverns measureless to man!" www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43991/kubla-khan This is a favourite somewhat tongue-in-cheek quote for cavers. Basically it's a desire to explore, to see what's round the next corner and if you're lucky to go somewhere nobody has been before. Some caves have stunningly beautiful formations too.
@@MegaBoilermaker I was an exception to Oliver's statement as I started caving properly and diving at the same age of 14 but didn't do my cave diving training until I could join the Mendip section in the early 80's when Oliver was still very much about. Did some original exploration but my wife wasn't keen so it dwindled. My last exploratory dive was in Reservoir Hole in 2012.
28:15 Put cave diving on the map, not just in Brittain but also throughout Europe. That should have been: " .... but also through the rest of Europe." Is Brittain, or Great Brittain NOT a part of Europe? Should there be a separate sixth ring at the Olympice Games?
Kibido exploration? How can you not find the meaning in this? It’s literally what humanity has done since the beginning of our existence. But you sit, watching it on TH-cam and can’t find meaning. Lol
@@vividestbeast4509 and you're doing the same thing, saying this is all fine and dandy from the comfort of your home. i'd love to ask the gentlemen who drowned if that miserable death was worth it. pretty sure i would know the answer.
+alex hernandez You're thinking of the word sociopath when I said psychopath. Since when did psychopaths specifically relate to a lack of empathy or emotion?
psychopath and sociopath are almost the same thing and refers to manipulative people without empathy and tendencies to law breaking and voilence. Neither would apply to this video. You mean crazy, fearless or mental....or any other word but not psychopath
I believe the term your looking for would be crazy or fearless to imply one is psychotic just because they have the determination to complete a task tends to show that your a lazy piece of shit.
My schoolteacher was one of these people and she introduced me to this type of exploration. Thank you Lillian Bowden-Lyle.
You don't need to go to the movies to watch a horror movie just watch one of these lol. They sure scare the hell out of me. Respect for all that does this.
Amen this is more horrific than anything if seen
This was so fascinating. What a wonderful documentary. I have nothing but great things to say. I really enjoyed this. ❤
Brilliant film Sid - thankyou very much for posting as I had been trying to get a copy of this for years!!
These guys was the real deal back in the day!! Just look how far we have come in all equipment pertaining to diving!! Astounding!!
Omg I think if you start on an adventure like this and you find a chamber you are hooked...and thanks for the upload this is amazing ..
Sid, Thanks so much for posting these episodes.I have listened to a number of the interviews you conducted on the BCRA website. I have also read a lot of the materials on the history of British cave exploration. (I am a Canadian.) It has been very satisfying to get a more personal look at the work that had been being done.
I'm watching this at 2am, 33years after its release... my cat knocked over my lamp and in pitch black, in my own house, I freaked the fuck out cause I couldn't find my last few beers in the dark..... these guys are insane! Brave or crazy? Who knows, but know this, I've got a second light as backup just in case.
Lol almost there with ya!
Superb. An amazing series...only 5 years too late! Thanks youtube :/
Lol you mean 34 years
You're never too late to watch history!
These diving accounts are amazing ...
These are so much more tense than the ones people make today
Man I had one of them round masks as a kid, I'd love to try diving with one of them again ...
The fact they just accepted silting out every dive is insane.
Another very interesting episode. Many thanks for uploading:).
Around 5 mins into the narration a major technical blunder is apparent. Using air instead of Oxygen would have negligible effect on narcosis (as mis-stated), but Oxygen toxicity can occur as shallow as 20ft for pure O2 (PO2=1.6), whereas the equivalent depth for Air toxicity (21%O2) is 225ft in fresh water. CNS Toxicity causing seizures is the limiting factor, not narcosis which is only a significant factor much below 100ft.
Correct Neil
Thumbs up if at any time during this video, you found yourself holding your breath!!
Always remember to keep breathing
I'm chaffing by watching this everywhere
I am shocked as to they knew the dangers of diving without a safety line but finding there line coverd in muck that they dove without laying a new line higher on the cave wall...
Terrifying...
Sid, I have no idea 🤷♂️ how in the world you do this. I am dead serious. It’s one thing to go down in caves that you can walk in while standing up-right the entire time.
Or, go down in some caves that you may have to stoop over for a good long ways which is definitely not good for your back as we get older.
But it’s an entirely different arena when you go down in these caves that you guys go in, that for all intents and purposes, the opening that you are crawling through, appears to be, no bigger than our residential Dryer doors or, washing machine door top or the side door washing machines over here.
The reason I say it like this is years ago one of the many times that I was in the port of Glasgow, I met an absolutely wonderful SCOTTISH LADY, so beautiful, full of class.
and over that weekend, and all the other times my ship was in port, we dated. And her washer / dryer stacked on top of one another, and they was the smallest things I have ever seen!
I am dead serious Sid. Up until that time, it wasn’t until about 10 years later I didn’t see anything like that again until over here in the states.
I was at a home furnishing expo in the Colosseum of Billings Montana. And they had some that looked exactly like the ones that Nessa owned. I was in the equivalent of the British Merchant Navy.
I worked for www.amo-union.org/ during my entire career. I retired as a, “Relief Captain / First Mate, Chief Mate. Both titles concerning the Mate, is one and the same.
And the 2 separate titles, Captain / Chief Mate, means that I would be very willing to sail on any vessel in either position.
Might surprise you to know that not many men back when I went to Sea, that reached either of the levels would ever do that. A Captain 👨✈️, would never do what is called moving-down.
Which would be beneath most of them, because they have such a big ego. I didn’t. I come from blue collar working class good Christian folks.
My father had been in the Navy back during the Korean War and he retired, as a Captain. But he didn’t go to the Naval Academy, or the Merchant Marine Academy.
Which is the back-door way to getting into the Navy with an officers rank. Because the Merchant Marine Academy, is a four-year Academy and it’s patterned along the lines of our naval academy.
He worked his way up, took / passed all the requisite exams and, happened to be in the right place at the right time he told me. Off and on during his life time.
In closing, you make absolutely stunning!!! Caving videos!! They actually should be titled, “EXTREME-CAVING”. Btw = by the way from the videos I’ve watched from years ago, do some of the men and women from back then that you was friends with, do they still go in the caves??
My anxiety is 10/10 watching this 😳
Makes my hair stand on end; "... a special sort of mentality..." I'll say!
I get tired of hearing people say that these people have a death wish, crazy, stupid etc. Also that 'its frightening, I'd never do that, this should be banned etc'.
If everyone was wrapped in cotton wool humans would never achieve anything. If your smart, listen to the rules, do go do stupid stuff... you'll generally be OK.
Driving down the highway and someone having worked a double shift coming the other way scares me way more than something that is totally within my control.
People are off their heads.
Still hard to understand what makes one want to do something like this. Even harder to grasp back then not having the technology like today. Wouldn't you have to be some what crazy or something?
Kim berly that was curring edge tech at time. No one knew any different. So really no in short to your answer. We are driven my sheer will. He was just being the dirst of his time.
It’s stupidity and no appreciation for their life.
@@johnapples2018 the need to explore is a basic human instinct. It's part of our shared humanity. Part of our greatness and hubris. Risk and reward. Shall we also be fearful of outer space? No. There will always be explorers and those willing to push the limit. It's how we evolve.
What an earth do they believe they might find?
"Caverns measureless to man!"
www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43991/kubla-khan
This is a favourite somewhat tongue-in-cheek quote for cavers. Basically it's a desire to explore, to see what's round the next corner and if you're lucky to go somewhere nobody has been before. Some caves have stunningly beautiful formations too.
Their sanity
More caves and rocks
Is there any video of modern cavers doing these passages
Re breathers in WW2 ? Wow Didn’t know that -
Oliver Lloyd used to say there are Divers who Cave and Cavers who Dive.
I posted a query about your old teacher. Are you an UBSS member?
@@mrodoc i was an original member of the Mendip section of the CDG.
@@MegaBoilermaker I was an exception to Oliver's statement as I started caving properly and diving at the same age of 14 but didn't do my cave diving training until I could join the Mendip section in the early 80's when Oliver was still very much about. Did some original exploration but my wife wasn't keen so it dwindled. My last exploratory dive was in Reservoir Hole in 2012.
Paul Esser was a friend.
Look at that damn light - it’s huge But it works
28:15 Put cave diving on the map, not just in Brittain but also throughout Europe.
That should have been: " .... but also through the rest of Europe." Is Brittain, or Great Brittain NOT a part of Europe? Should there be a separate sixth ring at the Olympice Games?
In those days it might have been geographically but it certainly was not politically
What is Europe?
Lead diver’s nickname is silt ! Where at …
can’t find the meaning in this. going through caves and rocks just to find other rocks up ahead, all while risking your life multiple times.
Kibido exploration? How can you not find the meaning in this? It’s literally what humanity has done since the beginning of our existence. But you sit, watching it on TH-cam and can’t find meaning. Lol
It’s really pointless. Explore your mind. That’s all that matters
@@vividestbeast4509 and you're doing the same thing, saying this is all fine and dandy from the comfort of your home. i'd love to ask the gentlemen who drowned if that miserable death was worth it. pretty sure i would know the answer.
Now that is funny looking for caves and rocks only to find more caves and rocks
Lol. Oxygen narcosis.. just like today, I bet they thought they knew everything back then.
either these guys are the bravest people on earth or simply psychopaths
+adfad gadfa what does having a lack of empathy or emotion have to do with diving??? psychotic is the word you're looking for.
+alex hernandez You're thinking of the word sociopath when I said psychopath. Since when did psychopaths specifically relate to a lack of empathy or emotion?
psychopath and sociopath are almost the same thing and refers to manipulative people without empathy and tendencies to law breaking and voilence. Neither would apply to this video. You mean crazy, fearless or mental....or any other word but not psychopath
I believe the term your looking for would be crazy or fearless to imply one is psychotic just because they have the determination to complete a task tends to show that your a lazy piece of shit.
People fear the unknown