THIS IS A WAR CRIME! THIS NEEDS TO BE BANNED FROM HOI4 MP! - HOI4 China Man the Guns

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  • THIS NEEDS TO STOP! THESE TIMES NEED TO END! We can no longer accept this in our HOI4 Multiplayer games! The day has come where we take up what's our and save something precious and dear for us! I'm getting so emotional MAN....Tommy will lead the path to the greater future of HOI4 MP and this community. We will not let this happen ever again. YOU CAN EXPLOIT, YOU CAN CHEAT, BUT NONE OF THIS! Oh also we are playing China in a roleplay game so that's fun! Enjoy the role play and enjoy the border gore...
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    Title: THIS IS A WAR CRIME! THIS NEEDS TO BE BANNED FROM HOI4 MP! - HOI4 China Man the Guns
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ความคิดเห็น • 417

  • @Cpt.Hodges
    @Cpt.Hodges 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1845

    Remember It’s only a war crime if you lose the war

    • @razzibooi8249
      @razzibooi8249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      good Swede

    • @oni-a1010
      @oni-a1010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Winston Churchill agrees.

    • @philip2205
      @philip2205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Oni-A what do you mean?

    • @NapoleonBonaparde
      @NapoleonBonaparde 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@philip2205 Churchill starved out 2 million Indians in WW2

    • @billwilson7841
      @billwilson7841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@philip2205
      Uh Rheinwiesenlager for example

  • @billwilson7841
    @billwilson7841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +502

    "Your Faction Name Here"
    fml this killed me

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Smartest people in the world

    • @billwilson7841
      @billwilson7841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TommyKay
      you called me Incel on one of my Comments Tommy and I dont know if i can forgive you yet....
      kidding alles cool Brudi Ossis halten zusammen

  • @assassinlp9842
    @assassinlp9842 5 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    HRE: my bordergore is the worst
    The people in this video: Hold our Eyecancer

  • @Mat-cf7xj
    @Mat-cf7xj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +695

    I see the titles have truly improved. We went from "ACTUAL DIPLOMACY AND STRATEGY" to "THIS IS A WAR CRIME"

    • @chromsh2806
      @chromsh2806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Isnt Clickbait a wonderful thing?

    • @Mat-cf7xj
      @Mat-cf7xj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@chromsh2806 make sure to blame markoni and not tommy

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ULTIMATE CLICKBAIT

  • @ottolinevonroon9249
    @ottolinevonroon9249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    Man these RP games are so fun to watch, definitely my 2nd favorite from the Crusader Kings 2
    Would really love to see these streams live though but I barely have enough time, sorry Tommy

    • @berserk6855
      @berserk6855 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      More CK2 and HOI4 Roleplay Games

    • @xtwzyz9000
      @xtwzyz9000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see roon I like

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      thats good to hear, we got 1 more coming up

    • @ottolinevonroon9249
      @ottolinevonroon9249 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TommyKay Thank you for the reply Tommy

    • @TimusPapus
      @TimusPapus 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ottolinevonroon9249 Markoni is the one who uploads on TH-cam and answers here. Tommy only uses Twitch

  • @matthewparcell79
    @matthewparcell79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    We did it boys 100k! 100k for tommykay

    • @ties8056
      @ties8056 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Parsmelly here since 14K

    • @Loki-Doki
      @Loki-Doki 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Parsmelly Crab rave

    • @hoi4noob765
      @hoi4noob765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me and the boys subbing Tommy kay

    • @FTWNorwayFTW
      @FTWNorwayFTW 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      100k FOR THE BOYS

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I LOVE YOU MAN

  • @Cloudzproduction
    @Cloudzproduction 5 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Best Hoi4 Streamer - TommayKay
    Best Fan base - Tommaykay fans
    Overall winner - Mr - steal your money Paradox

  • @Skryabin204
    @Skryabin204 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Telling Japan to stay away confirmed new China meta

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      10k iq

  • @rafonjohnson3366
    @rafonjohnson3366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Remember 60 divisions cavalry stronk (Poland) MP

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no :)

    • @CosyGrave
      @CosyGrave 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Winged hussars *

    • @Wes-g2l
      @Wes-g2l 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Poland rekt Germany in world war two with its good old ally Czechoslovakia lol

    • @gaiuslucius9380
      @gaiuslucius9380 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wes-g2l ?

    • @Wes-g2l
      @Wes-g2l 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gaiuslucius9380 exactly

  • @bnluewarthunder3773
    @bnluewarthunder3773 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    17:01 Soviet Union looking like feudal Europe

  • @angelikaunger6276
    @angelikaunger6276 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Paradox Interactive : Makes update to fix the game
    TommyKay : No u
    Paradox Interactive : Ah shit here we go again

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH SHIT

  • @hectormichilotpalacios9114
    @hectormichilotpalacios9114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You put the nationalist spanish anthem, not the republican. Anyway, greetings from Spain

  • @Horesmi
    @Horesmi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    0:21 Soviet Union trying to explain why Germans shouldn't defect to the West

  • @DoccyStars
    @DoccyStars 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Absolutely Nobody:
    Tommy's Titles: THIS IS A WAR CRIME

  • @josephcola9662
    @josephcola9662 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Me: Plays DS3 for 18 hours in the past 3 days.
    Tommy: Soul of Cinder theme in background.
    Me: PRAISE. THE. FXCKING. SUN.

  • @nurpak1065
    @nurpak1065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Услышал Летова на 9:27 и охуел

  • @СлавсяХристос
    @СлавсяХристос 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    9:06 лол гражданская оборона
    PUNKS NOT DEAD

    • @overload3952
      @overload3952 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Я сам офигел

  • @GaspardFR
    @GaspardFR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    11:00 "Go in vacations and fish", best way to win all HOI games

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TBG knows best

  • @jbamatrax3001
    @jbamatrax3001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Tommy keep doing this roleplay really enjoying it keep going congrats for the 100k

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks man! Yeah we got 1 more coming up

  • @RyanTheHero3
    @RyanTheHero3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tommy: *makes friends with Russia*
    Japan: what’s your relationship with Russia? No reason at all just wondering.
    Tommy: it’s crap. If i were to get invaded now it’d be over for me.

  • @niceto1998bt
    @niceto1998bt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That spanish anthem is not used anymore, that was the francoist anthem. That anthem and "Cara al sol" were the songs that were used in that Spain..
    Man my english sucks

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OOF my bad LOL

    • @niceto1998bt
      @niceto1998bt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TommyKay well, check the republican anthem "Himno de Riego". For me, is way better.
      Hey, Tommy replied me, yay!

  • @LTN000
    @LTN000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    is the bad grammar part of the roleplay?

  • @MidgeCat
    @MidgeCat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Congrats on 100k Dad

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      THANKS MAAAAAAAAAN

  • @bcvetkov8534
    @bcvetkov8534 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love how Italy Literally memed the first chance they had in the conference.

    • @beny2656
      @beny2656 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tbf the game was pretty much over after that

  • @dragondrew2000
    @dragondrew2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    How to find these RP servers? I'm an active roleplayer myself on other games and I think I'd fit in well with this crowd.

    • @jakubgolab8246
      @jakubgolab8246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      they normally start after a normal game make sure your in the disc as well I been playing quit a lot of tommy kay rp so I think I know how to join I was the Germany in this game and it was a lot of fun so I recommend joining them when you can.

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TommyKay discord, look in the description

  • @t--w5203
    @t--w5203 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    East Germany is just sauerkraut but so cheap that its shredded paper

  • @oliverstianhugaas7493
    @oliverstianhugaas7493 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel you, it's 16 degrees here in Northern Norway and I'm dying.

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HELP US

    • @ndetavy2341
      @ndetavy2341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol here we are with 40-41 degrees without electricity

  • @granajo858
    @granajo858 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You just put the franco anthem when it was republican spain, im bleeding

  • @wulfrickackerman9453
    @wulfrickackerman9453 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whenever I watch videos of Multiplayer matches it is just a bunch of kids that are not even trying to play.

  • @hestvenn
    @hestvenn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    can tommy start listing the songs he plays during streams

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      eh just ask for it, most ppl respond here

    • @hestvenn
      @hestvenn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TommyKay ok, can you list all the songs? :)))

  • @f3tsch906
    @f3tsch906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just a tip tommy: i think this game mode is inspired by conspiracy. A great mobile game which turns maps into chess boards with multiple players. You should check it out ;)

    • @gaqghah205
      @gaqghah205 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No i dont think so

  • @premiumbutterr4964
    @premiumbutterr4964 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We are getting closer to Rimmydownunder

  • @Winter-rf2fb
    @Winter-rf2fb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    All hail King Tommykay!!

  • @BzykN7
    @BzykN7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tommy, you are Ed Sheeran of Hoi4 community.
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    The only ginger we can stand.

  • @billsmith8577
    @billsmith8577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hell yeah another video thank you so much. From a Marine in Japan

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck man!

  • @cardboxman
    @cardboxman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who has putted Egor Letov from Civil Defense group at 9:10? Give that man a medal!

  • @redlotosbg7731
    @redlotosbg7731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I go to see Tommy's stream on Twitch. I want to say "Hello There'' ,but i can't because i don't have money to by subscribtion. Sad day for me today.

  • @astroroyal3903
    @astroroyal3903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should do CK2 roleplay Tommy.

  • @victoralonsobercianos7466
    @victoralonsobercianos7466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:20 Republican Spain on screen, plays monarchic anthem with fascist chosen lyrics xD

  • @walesftw112
    @walesftw112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found this channel, wtf have i been missing for so long?

  • @Nat11us
    @Nat11us 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Come on,what is name of this mod?

  • @camberpohler658
    @camberpohler658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The chat spelling in this game makes me cringe.

  • @KingNothing1256
    @KingNothing1256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pelase someone tell me what mod is Tommy playibg

    • @triskilion1771
      @triskilion1771 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's called "Road to 56"

    • @KingNothing1256
      @KingNothing1256 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@triskilion1771 oh thank you so much

  • @niku4154
    @niku4154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanna see a German Revolution against the dictatorship by loyallists and student movements played by Tommy in RP Hoi4

  • @adamb2987
    @adamb2987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:55 your pupper is becoming commie.
    what a nightmare

  • @DantezMaritu
    @DantezMaritu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually like these games. Like, without the straight up historical rules. Just letting people do whatever the fuck they want and whichever way they want. Sure, the results are unbalanced as shit but it is more interesting than the same games every single time.

  • @skrrrskrrt316
    @skrrrskrrt316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this bordergore looks worse than the Holy Roman Empire xD

  • @matthewjmcgraw
    @matthewjmcgraw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.

  • @TurinMB
    @TurinMB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe next time get all the players in peace conference to one room and have an actuall RP conference? If you arent doing that already.

  • @lavberia5419
    @lavberia5419 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am waiting for Tommy to make his own EvE corporation and takeover the Galaxy

  • @TexugoFTW
    @TexugoFTW 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i like how tommy does a typo in every 3 words he writes, it adds into the chinese roleplay experience

  • @benrodir2
    @benrodir2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hit 107 degrees F (41.6 C, or so google says) here in California a week ago. I feel ya, hot as hell right now.

  • @gris77
    @gris77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tommy love ur music

  • @poetacomunista
    @poetacomunista 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:16 I am Spanish and that's the Franquist anthem of Spain HAHAHAHAH
    Viva España, alzad los brazos
    hijos del pueblo español, que vuelve a resurgir

  • @daniellison9182
    @daniellison9182 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The real reason the ONU was created : to avoid bordergore

    • @faustogiorno2300
      @faustogiorno2300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ONU is literally the major cause of bordergore in modern day

  • @someyugo5132
    @someyugo5132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just sees the title: eh a war crime it's not that bad what are you talking about
    Sees the thumbnail: dear god what have they done he's right

  • @OliverCovfefe
    @OliverCovfefe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the name of the song around 7:00? I hear it all the time but I have no idea what it's called

  • @Loki-Doki
    @Loki-Doki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My man tommy thinks 30 degrees is hot yet he’s ginger?

  • @niko7877
    @niko7877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the first time I'm seeing Tank Top Tommy and I like what I'm seeing

    • @rileynindy
      @rileynindy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao he sounds like he’s from one punch man like tank top tiger

  • @bluchickenstudios9957
    @bluchickenstudios9957 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He be complaining that it's hot in Germany but here in Aus it's like 42°c

  • @NinjonikSVK
    @NinjonikSVK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to congrats to human which created czech subtitles :D why would you do that?

  • @samashton7843
    @samashton7843 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He just used the fascist national anthem of spain
    (Because it had lyrics)
    You could actually be banned for this

  • @pukshh5832
    @pukshh5832 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh shit, it's Egor Letov? 9:06

  • @vinifalleroliveira
    @vinifalleroliveira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rule for Contiguous/Colonial/De Jure territory only

  • @mexicoball2529
    @mexicoball2529 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *your faction name here*
    my sides dude

  • @alphazero5614
    @alphazero5614 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What song is 14:13

    • @apexlex1255
      @apexlex1255 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darude sandstorm

  • @MoriartyCodingMasterclass
    @MoriartyCodingMasterclass 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really love this game sadly im only able to play it cracked beacause my country "tunisia" doesnt support paypal or any online transactions so pls if you are reading this help me with a steam key or something

  • @joda7129
    @joda7129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guanxi didn't break any rules. They did border conflicts and those aren't wars they are battles which if you win you take the state and they just did it twice.

  • @Thund3rStorm3r
    @Thund3rStorm3r 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    More roleplay please. Loved the Greece one , loved the china one , don't know what to expect but i'm pretty sure i'll like it

  • @spencervandyke1552
    @spencervandyke1552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG THIS TYPE OF PORN IS ILLEGAL AROUND THE WORLD ITS SO DISGUSTING.

  • @jackcool9291
    @jackcool9291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WHY IS THE MUSIC SO LOUD

  • @PorucznikBorewicz
    @PorucznikBorewicz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at TommyKay while getting rekt from behind. Sounds like a wet dream.

  • @ChibiYuki
    @ChibiYuki 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone else: Border gore is like when Germany takes only Paris and Vichy from France.
    Me: *Hold my bleach*

  • @acfake7858
    @acfake7858 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ->its hot
    ->literally have a coat at chair for extra hitness

  • @scottnunnemaker5209
    @scottnunnemaker5209 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks more like that HRE game you were playing for your mega campaign

  • @rasputin924
    @rasputin924 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Славянские корни играют в Томми, 9:05 летов играет.
    Чё пацаны Русские есть?

  • @sonicbread
    @sonicbread 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Republican Spain wins Civil War*
    Tommy: *uses fascist hymn*

  • @yurgensoomerik2868
    @yurgensoomerik2868 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Егор Летов попал в видео

  • @kuolija30
    @kuolija30 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    markoni pls get rid of these camera rotating micro montages they really gay. also u cant see shit in them

  • @charlycreed1296
    @charlycreed1296 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    editor! the spanish anthem you used is the franquism one(the one used during the dictatorship period) , it's not representative , the actual spanish one doesn't have lyrics man. was it intentional maybe?

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ye that was my bad? Listen blame youtube titles ok

  • @mr.501st7
    @mr.501st7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WGERE IS 100K SPECIAL ITS SUCH A BIG MILESTONE SPECIAL MOW

  • @spencervandyke1552
    @spencervandyke1552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sun must have been red in east Germany lol.

  • @UnitedJupiter91
    @UnitedJupiter91 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you think about it, real history is full of plenty of “meme” decisions from actual leaders. If roleplay somewhat follows real diplomacy, it shouldn’t be too surprising how some decisions are a little memey

  • @Caseyy04
    @Caseyy04 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rp isn’t so bad, it’s fun to do, but awkward to watch in a game.

  • @DisgruntledHippo
    @DisgruntledHippo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the song from 1:00-1:15? It's chill as fuck.

  • @zxcSSS-p4p
    @zxcSSS-p4p 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:20 ЛЕТОВ!!!!!!!!!

  • @vladioanalexandru4222
    @vladioanalexandru4222 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone tell me the name of the song he plays when he goes blitzkrieg please?

  • @nz4243
    @nz4243 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hoi4 equivalent of ERP

  • @kyranthecreator8719
    @kyranthecreator8719 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys so I’m gonna buy HOI4 is it hard to understand?

  • @iinfms
    @iinfms 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    100k subs video?
    like if agree

  • @ilija3216
    @ilija3216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More roleplay

  • @timthet4nk729
    @timthet4nk729 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not a war crime if you don't consider your enemy to be human

  • @arthurlongpigeon4640
    @arthurlongpigeon4640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy has the same taste in music as me. The Missile knows where it is,

  • @virremclove
    @virremclove 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks b0aty for another epic runescape montage!

  • @ametamaa
    @ametamaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "fiefdom, i think theres a c missing"
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fief

  • @Jenny-zu6nm
    @Jenny-zu6nm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:50
    Listening Igor baby!! Fucking great album

  • @andenfighter0078
    @andenfighter0078 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you use any mods or why was your fational focus tree on steroids

  • @bucket1442
    @bucket1442 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not a war crime if there's no one that will say it's a war crime.

  • @selmanela6730
    @selmanela6730 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    He doesn't even try to type, Tommy just slides his hands on the keyboard and hope it types what he's saying.

  • @BezimiennyBot
    @BezimiennyBot 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was really fond of your taste in music when I heard the DS 3 OST. And then came the Nier track. And for that you got a new sub.