I'm totally going to use this list to help my Tinybones deck. While i was happy to pull Aclazotz from a booster, Tinybones is such a nice commander to combo with discard. Though i could use both as a commander to change the power level. Great deck as always Grazzet! A pleasure to see your ideas!
I really like the style of this video. Will be coming back for more! I played my new Aclazots deck last night and the main thing I felt disappointed by is the fact that Temple of the Dead has to tap itself when it transforms back into Aclazots. I originally thought that I would be able to attack with Aclazots on the turn I transform Temple of the Dead since it won't have summoning sickness after transforming but transforming tapped really takes the wind out of the sails. It might be a good idea to look into cards such as Thousand Year Elixir, Umbral Mantel and Puppet Strings just to be able to attack with Aclazots on the same turn he transforms.
I think Mindslicer might be particularly nasty in this deck, provided you can get it out earlier before your opponent's hands have been whittled away already. You can use it as an attack deterrent, or you can even blow it up with your own spot removal to clear out everyone's hands, then swing out with Aclazotz to draw three.
If you're running Scavenger Grounds I suggest running Desert of the Glorified. It's a small thing but potentially getting two uses out of the Grounds could be mighty handy.
I play discard for a few years, cards like megrim are a trap, there are some cards that are on the Budget that should be on this build sadist hypnotics can rip everyone hands sometimes especially if you have a wast not on the field , and another power house is words of waste that combo with geth's grimoare (already on the list )
Bloodchief’s ascension also works well here. While needing the extra step of life-loss to get online, a lot of discard payoffs in the list already cause life loss, and Ascension would synergize with discard spells as well as general removal and punish opponents for playing instants or sorceries.
Chains of Mephistopheles ($1060) is a discard enabler as punishing as it is expensive - very on both accounts. The bat god will very much appreciate this tribute however
Love your videos, is there a deck build you can make or recommend for a Shelob, Child of Ungoliant EDH deck that can go toe to toe with some strong decks. Loved your Mothman build and I wanna build Shelob next. Thank you!!
Surprised you don't include Larceny. It makes the Bat tokens Aclazotz creates very nasty since they can crack in for even more discard to ensure our opponents cannot have any hands, period.
Fair point, but personally I find Larceny to be a card that costs too much and does too little (in this build anyway). For 5 mana, we're paying for a discard source that already needs an established baordstate in order to be effective - which is bad if drawn early, and situational if draw later depending on what our board looks like when we draw into it. That said, if we draw into it AND have the board to take advantage of it, it can ensure our opponents won't really have a hand to play from for the remainder of the game. So while I personally don't like it (and opted for cheaper, more reliable sources of discard in this build) I can see the argument for slotting it in, particularly if we know the table we'll be playing against can reload their hands very easily.
@@GrazzetMTGthat's a good point. Actually that argument makes me reconsider cards like Reconnaissance Mission since those too are rather dependent on a developed board states to generate value, as opposed to cards like say Beast Whisperer, that generate value as you develop your board state.
Quick question: How often did you discard cards because there is a creature version of waste not called Bone Miser which benefits when you discard a card.
Holy Messed Up Notifications, Batgod! That sure is a sweet EDH Deck Tech as always! And next up is... Murder! Without anyone spending black mana! Day 281 of waiting for the face reveal... keeping track of the days sure is a pain, huh. I don't mind though. That said... thoughts on Murder at Karlov Manor? Cause IMO it really feels like New Capenna 2 - the Ravnica Version.
I've been playing a lot lately on the Tollarian Community College discord and I'm finding that I'm getting controlled and beaten easily in PL7 & PL8 games with any of the upgrades from Grazzet. I know there is randomness and my knowledge of the deck involved and probably has a lot to do with it. Also the factor of "pub stompers" & "everybody's deck is a 7" attitude. I'm not complaining here but querying. Since most people seem to be looking for PL7+ games and few look for precon or upgraded precon games, @grazzet, what power level are you aiming these upgrades to be?
Love the commander context you add to the videos, super cool to get some of the lore
Sheoldred // The True Scripture is a great inclusion to this deck.
I'm totally going to use this list to help my Tinybones deck. While i was happy to pull Aclazotz from a booster, Tinybones is such a nice commander to combo with discard. Though i could use both as a commander to change the power level. Great deck as always Grazzet! A pleasure to see your ideas!
I really like the style of this video. Will be coming back for more!
I played my new Aclazots deck last night and the main thing I felt disappointed by is the fact that Temple of the Dead has to tap itself when it transforms back into Aclazots. I originally thought that I would be able to attack with Aclazots on the turn I transform Temple of the Dead since it won't have summoning sickness after transforming but transforming tapped really takes the wind out of the sails.
It might be a good idea to look into cards such as Thousand Year Elixir, Umbral Mantel and Puppet Strings just to be able to attack with Aclazots on the same turn he transforms.
I think Mindslicer might be particularly nasty in this deck, provided you can get it out earlier before your opponent's hands have been whittled away already. You can use it as an attack deterrent, or you can even blow it up with your own spot removal to clear out everyone's hands, then swing out with Aclazotz to draw three.
Im so excited to play with this deck! Love the content! ❤
If you're running Scavenger Grounds I suggest running Desert of the Glorified. It's a small thing but potentially getting two uses out of the Grounds could be mighty handy.
That's a new look for your design pool - don't think you've done any discard in a build yet. Tempted to give it a run
g'day!
thanks! this is an awesome build. :)
Morn'in and happy to hear you enjoyed it!
I play discard for a few years, cards like megrim are a trap, there are some cards that are on the Budget that should be on this build sadist hypnotics can rip everyone hands sometimes especially if you have a wast not on the field , and another power house is words of waste that combo with geth's grimoare (already on the list )
This is an old one but I have a Edgar markov precon and would like to know what cards you would upgrade with Edgar
Same!
This is the card that got me into mtg
Always a fun part of Saturday mornings 🎉
Bloodchief’s ascension also works well here. While needing the extra step of life-loss to get online, a lot of discard payoffs in the list already cause life loss, and Ascension would synergize with discard spells as well as general removal and punish opponents for playing instants or sorceries.
Chains of Mephistopheles ($1060) is a discard enabler as punishing as it is expensive - very on both accounts. The bat god will very much appreciate this tribute however
Proxy it lol
I love your videos, will it be possible for you to make one but from elesh norn mother of machine mono white commander??
Would also love one for this!
I was really hoping that Chains of Mephistopheles was going to be in the potential upgrade recommendations! 🙃
Finally an excuse to quote Batman lines in the commander pod.
Love your videos, is there a deck build you can make or recommend for a Shelob, Child of Ungoliant EDH deck that can go toe to toe with some strong decks. Loved your Mothman build and I wanna build Shelob next. Thank you!!
I'm working on building a few of your decks to test. I'm curious how and how much you playtest before you end up with a final build.
You used my comment for the thumbnail! 😂😮
Yeah, it was too good to pass up!
@GrazzetMTG would bone miser and kirrik son of yawgmoth be an ok card to put in the deck?
Surprised you don't include Larceny. It makes the Bat tokens Aclazotz creates very nasty since they can crack in for even more discard to ensure our opponents cannot have any hands, period.
Fair point, but personally I find Larceny to be a card that costs too much and does too little (in this build anyway). For 5 mana, we're paying for a discard source that already needs an established baordstate in order to be effective - which is bad if drawn early, and situational if draw later depending on what our board looks like when we draw into it.
That said, if we draw into it AND have the board to take advantage of it, it can ensure our opponents won't really have a hand to play from for the remainder of the game. So while I personally don't like it (and opted for cheaper, more reliable sources of discard in this build) I can see the argument for slotting it in, particularly if we know the table we'll be playing against can reload their hands very easily.
@@GrazzetMTGthat's a good point. Actually that argument makes me reconsider cards like Reconnaissance Mission since those too are rather dependent on a developed board states to generate value, as opposed to cards like say Beast Whisperer, that generate value as you develop your board state.
@@GrazzetMTG Anyone else read this in his voice and cadence 😂
Quick question: How often did you discard cards because there is a creature version of waste not called Bone Miser which benefits when you discard a card.
Same mana as commander and too expensive = pass
Holy Messed Up Notifications, Batgod! That sure is a sweet EDH Deck Tech as always!
And next up is... Murder! Without anyone spending black mana!
Day 281 of waiting for the face reveal... keeping track of the days sure is a pain, huh. I don't mind though. That said... thoughts on Murder at Karlov Manor? Cause IMO it really feels like New Capenna 2 - the Ravnica Version.
I've been playing a lot lately on the Tollarian Community College discord and I'm finding that I'm getting controlled and beaten easily in PL7 & PL8 games with any of the upgrades from Grazzet.
I know there is randomness and my knowledge of the deck involved and probably has a lot to do with it. Also the factor of "pub stompers" & "everybody's deck is a 7" attitude.
I'm not complaining here but querying.
Since most people seem to be looking for PL7+ games and few look for precon or upgraded precon games, @grazzet, what power level are you aiming these upgrades to be?
How do you convince your opponents to let you play it?
Why not add The Rack?
Tergrid is secretly the true hero of this deck
True commander buuuut in the deck so it's not to salty
Would love to see zoyowa build from you
I voted for this deck tech and now i gotta make it. Time to draw some hate.
Them's the breaks! Plus, once you build this deck - you'll be the only one drawing anyway (or at least, the one one that gets to keep what they draw).
Sad to say this deck is close to $200 now.
First?
Looks like. Thanks for dropping by so early!