I agree that the ship would be set in Asia, and for Australia, they can use the smaller original ships like the magic and wonder. As someone who is booked for the Australian cruising, it's insane the demand
General cruise industry: The ship might be a bargain, but our guests deserve better than a "sloppy seconds" ship. We'll pass. Modern Disney: Cheap ship? Here here here!
@@graceygal2664 That is how Carnival started. They bought old Canadian Pacific passenger ships and turned them into cruisers. They made money from that then started building new ships.
@@graceygal2664 An basicallt un fitted out unused prebuilt ship, that hasn't even had sea trials. all they have to do is make the finishing touches like custom interiors instead of having to build an ENTIRE ship! Sounds like common business sense to me, you just halved the cost. Plus some.
@@davidalvarez1560 the difference here would be it moves and they would actually have too give you more too do to make the price worth it. But lets be honest we all know disney will cheap out on it. Hmm know what just call it the S.S Tipton and make it fun.
They did that with a resort and it's losing so much money it almost makes it seem like they designed it to fail on purpose. The last thing they need to do is waste more money on failed Star Wars endeavors.
I think it will be awesome to see what they do with this ship. They have a lot more room to make more immersive areas. Only thing I’m not a fan of is the 6 funnels. I think it’s a little much. 4 funnels that are a little larger would look better
Southeast Asia, possibly. Given the fact there will probably never be a park on land there because of the heat and humidity, this would be one way to bring Disney closer to a huge, relatively wealthy but cost conscious market.
Agreed with Dom that this ship is bound for Asia. From the looks of it, there seems to be a central promenade not unlike the Oasis class ships of RCCL. Although RCCL has a presence in Asia, their mega Oasis class ships have remained firmly in the Caribbean. Only Quantum class ships have ventured here to Asia. I think there its appetite for such large ships here in Asia.
Wonder of the Seas was designed for the Asian market. As it collapsed from covid they made last minute changes to be able to send it to the US and Europe. If things improve (still not, I think Spectrum just set sail again) it may go back to Asia or Utopia of the Seas may take the spot once delivered. Neither would be until 2024 at the earliest. That would still be ahead of Disney though which is crazy when comparing how far along each vessel is.
here's my theory. the ship will do a singapore to hongkong route with stop at bangkok- saigon and hanoi. you get a huge lucrative south east Asia market that want to cruise with Disney but don't want to travel half way around the world. the price of the park entrance is included in the ticket. you can also add stop to tokyo, busan, taipie, manila, and Jakarta. the are room big enough that you can theoretically turn the ship into a floating Disney hotel.
Having just sailed on the Wish, I don't know that this ship is appealing to me. But it is mentioned that it's not for the American market so there you go. I wish Disney could bring their originality to a larger ship and make a ship that is fun for adults and kids alike that has no casinos (Disney doesn't need that) but has fun adult only areas that have more than just bars and trivia. Having toured the kids clubs on the Wish there are so many things they could adapt for adults that would be amazing. Many adults who travel on the Disney ships are just kids at heart.
We love Disney cruising but over the years Disney has lost it's quality food and entertainment. Disney brought innovation to cruising and that was all missing on the Wish. Poor food quality, ridiculous elevators,, we won't sail the Wish ever again and can't recommend it. It's a cattle boat like all the rest.
I don’t think this ship will ever leave Asia, I think it’ll stay that side of the world servicing that market. If so then it makes sense. The stacks will be converted to suites I’m sure.
Forget the ship itself, I want to go see that giant hanger it was being built in. The perspective on the video at 2:50 makes it look like almost a regular size ship, but then you realize that its 1/3 of a kilometer long and those little structures next to it are three story buildings. Its really incredible
If it's calling Hong Kong home, it will be massive news as it's originally owned by an HK company and the ship is calling Hong Kong home. And a new terminal might be built next to the resort, maybe at the second phase area (If the government is happy to) and a park like DisneySea might be next to it. This way, the pier can join the parks, a place to park it, and the way to secure income if any other cruise ships owned by Disney uses that port.
Cruises that originate in Hong Kong utilizing the former airport in the harbor that is now a cruise port The destinations are limitless but definitely include Shanghai and various other itineraries that were utilied in the Adventures by Disney tours. Great idea that could eventually include a multi week cruise that hits Hong Kong, Shanghai and Tokyo with many stops in between. As well as a repositioning cruse twice a year to run out of Australia and New Zealand. Many, many great things can be done with this new ship !!
It might have also been a goodwill deal between Resorts World Intl (which is linked to Genting HK) to release some IPs for the Genting Malaysia theme park (remember, there were some disputes there once Disney bought over 20th Century). It would be interesting to see this ship actually have itineraries from Japan down that line to Sth Korea, to HK, to maybe even the Philippines then doing a tour of SEA (Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia etc) then heading back up to Japan. Could be done chasing good weather (avoiding monsoon seasons closer to the equator and winter seasons further up north). I know for sure that if it ever came to SEA, it would be fully booked.
Shanghai Disneyland is inland, while both Tokyo and Hong Kong are built on reclaimed land with first-row ocean access. It will be a very fierce battle between the two to homeport the "Asia Disney Ship". I think we will win because: first, we can attract more Chinese tourists than Tokyo. Secondly, we are closer to emerging markets like Malaysia, Vietnam and the Philippines. And thirdly, we are more Anglicized than Tokyo, so it's more comfortable for guests from outside of Asia, like Australia NZ etc. Besides, the ship was designed for Hong Kong to begin with.
Disney has anounced it will reduce the max Passengers to 6000. Still the biggest ship in the fleet, but not the biggest in the world. Icon of the the Seas will haven 7600 guests.
Our parks our in need of maintenance, or stock price is in the tank, and we are cutting back on just about everything and raising our prices. Let's buy this partially built cruise ship, it's a real bargain. Just don't ask how much it's going to cost to finish. It's going to be great!
My thoughts exactly! They have to let go of lots of employees- when it’s the cast members who make the experience so magical for guest - but yet can buy this partially finished ship? My opinion of Disney is tanking more and more by the day, unfortunately.
One other thing is the ship has a really really high capacity for it's size. Meaning it won't be the best experience for passengers as everything will be full up all the time, so I wonder what Disney will do / not do about that.
The best thing they could do is lower the passenger limit and increase the quality of living spaces. But it's also Disney, and that would make them less money, so...
Global Dream isn't "The World's Largest Cruise Ship": only 342 metres in length, 208,000 tons. World’s biggest cruise ship is ‘Wonder of the Seas', 362m long, 230,000 tons, launched on 20 August 2021 by French shipbuilder at St Nazaire, France. Previous World record 'Symphony of the Seas' launched by French shipbuilder in 2018. 'Harmony of the Seas' launched by French shipbuilder in 2016. World’s biggest Atlantic liner QM2 (345 m, 76,000 tons) : built in 2004 by French shipbuilder at St Nazaire, France.
It was supposed to be the world's most populated cruise ship at over 9k passengers, but it's now down to 6k with Disney. Porbably still the biggest cruise ship in Asia though
Imagine a cruise that starts in Hong Kong and hits Disneyland Hong Kong, Tokyo Disney Sea, and ends at a port closest to Shanghai and they offer a singular cruise, 7 days perhaps, with an overnight in Tokyo so you can do all 3 park locations. One way to Hong Kong airfare, 1 Disney hotel night prior to cruise, 6 nights on the boat, 2 sea days, 1 overnight in tokyo, a final hotel stay at Shanghai and a one-way flight back.
For me, this good for ocean crossings just like transatlantic crossing so that guests can fully explore the ship and not miss all entertainment on that ship and she can sail between US and Europe vice versa. This ship will not fit most of the ports in Asia except Hong Kong because there are no Oasis class ship sailing in Asia only Europe and US only
9,000 guests and 2,200 crew……that’s roughly 11,200 people on board. How to they plan to evacuate that many people in an emergency? Especially since the ship will be in monsoon and tsunami territory if it goes to Asia. I thought cruise ship builders were reevaluating the capacity limit of ships since the near disaster that the Costa Concordia was?
Here is where I'm at. I recalled in a Twitter post that when Disney announced that they will purchase the Global Dream, I responded with optimism and some scepticism. By buying off a ship that is almost completed, stick it with some Mickey Mouse branding, and send it to a new market like Asia, this may actually be a genius move to expand their footprint, given that they have resorts in Shanghai, Hong Kong, and Tokyo. A combined Disneyland / Disney Cruise experience is something that will get tourists flocking to them because they want a complete Disney holiday, which is already being done with Walt Disney World. However, it doesn't take a genius or a fanatic to see that this might not work at all. First, the rendering tells me that they are trying to retain the look as all the other ships in their fleet. However, the Global Dream was a completely different design, so it is always going to look hideous. (Six funnels, really?) Second, at 208,000 tonnes, it is easily one of the biggest cruise ships in the world and even bigger than any ship Disney built, which is why it probably makes sense to send this ship to Asia because it is far and away the biggest market for the company. Perhaps what might be really concerning is the direction Disney is currently taking at this point in time. I mean, come on, why can't they do something different like a _Tron_-themed roller-coaster or a multi-slide AquaRacer or bring back the adults-only district instead of removing a roller-coaster, add super luxurious suites, and adding too much IP than maintaining the overall concept design of the past ships? Yes, in the space of four years, Disney will double the size of its ships and yet half of them aren't as grand as you may think. Personally, I would rather take the _Wonder_ over that ship because it makes sense for the Australian / South Pacific market, plus we're getting a real Disney experience that for so long we waited for decades, but didn't come. What matters is that it's the experience that counts, and right now, the Parks & Resorts are a mess. Poor maintenance, confusing reservations, and attractions that are not interesting. And they are paying more to visit Disney parks, so is this any good? This disconnect with its fans and people is clearly seen in Disneyland, Walt Disney World and even the cruise line. And it's not limited to that: the Studio business is semi-floundering (Star Wars fans not happy, _Strange World_ already bombed?), the streaming business is expensive and lacking quality, the political interference and wokeness is getting a bit out of hand, and worse, cast members are getting laid off just as this was announced. No wonder why it's stock is taking a beating, but then again, the world is almost to hitting another recession. But that doesn't mean they can't improve what they already have. And yet they're not doing as much to bring more guests and have a good time after this change of leadership. So yes, I like the way Disney is trying to pull a Cinderella move by purchasing the Global Dream and add it to it's cruise line. If it works, then this is one of their most genius decisions that will cement themselves as the world's leading entertainment giant as it recovers from the COVID pandemic. But it's the experience that counts and so far, Disney is struggling to satisfy its fanbase and guests with its sub-par offerings and rising prices. It doesn't help that its rivals are taking guests away with new theme parks and experiences that people will go to that new, exciting and different (and that is exactly what is happening with Universal Studios and its soon-to-be-open Epic Universe). In other words, with so many fans out of touch with this brand even as they announced the acquisition of the Global Dream, has Disney really lost it's magic? And if they do, are they willing to change its creative and business direction before it's too late? I hope they understand, but I beg to differ...
disney has definatly lost its magic... maintaince and low staffing on the parks are an issue as cheap-pak tries to cut costs at the expense of the consumer experience... i cant wait for epic universe and unversal to steamroll disney as they have become very cheap and lazy as of recent...
The Global dream isn't the world's biggest cruise ship though, there are several RC Oasis class ships that beat it out in length and tonnage... not to mention Icon...
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You know Disney will want to launch and debut it in Florida for first sailings to claim dominance over having the largest cruise ship in the world to be the first ship to go to their new island. It's a statement move but after initial sailings, probably Asia with rotating it out to be in Florida every few years for limited runs (at crazy costs of course) while to give Asia older ships to clear their full Disney fleet bucket list die hard cruisers try to achieve.
Stena line was interested in purchasing it, it would have been so hilarious if the biggest cruise ship in the world was converted into your typical Stena line ferry
I think they should dock all safe and secure at good old Lake Mead! That way, the location matches the ambiance of the "parent company's "Theme Parks!"
If the Meyer Werft is supposed to finish that thing up, that is going to be a logistical nightmare given how big that thing is... Because the Meyer Werft is located up a river which needs to be temporarily blocked up in order to raise the water levels high enough for cruise ships built there to get out to sea in the first place. Getting that half-done ship UP that river, finish it up and then get it back DOWN the river again is going to be a major headache... A spectacle to be sure, but I am not sure the locals are going to be all that happy about it, given how much hassle each ship transfer on that river means for them. And yes, that DOES include deconstruction of a couple bridges if i remember correctly.
I'm not surprised Disney brought this ship as that was the scuttlebut for a while. A cheap ship with up to double of the capacity of the triton for potentially a cheaper or similar price as an extra triton. However with most cruise lines opting for vessels with similar or less passenger capacity currently in the future and disneys astronomical prices compared. Things get iffy. They could also be replacing the older vessels of their fleet with these new ones and either selling their older vessels likely to luxury market or if not possible just getting as much money for scrap as possible.
How is it the largest if its only the 8th largest under construction (the largest being the 3 Icon class ships) And if we look at the ships currently in service it will only be the 7th largest. So it will eventually only ve the 15th largest.
Disney should invest getting into Port Aventura close to Barcelona, as management role and make a whole Disney e experience with the cruises and linking through Disney high speed train to the parks in Disneyland resort Paris as they already have highspeed trains stations in front of both resorts,,and maybe universal is taking this option in real consideration
WHY ON EARTH would Disney purchase PortAventura, when it was built specifically on a site that Disney didn't want ? Also, Universal used to have a partnership with PA, there's a reason they're not going back to it... If they ever come back to Europe, it's probably gonna be in Melun, near Paris, where they are close to Orly Intl airport, would have their own high speed station just like Disney, and much closer to the rest of Europe
When a company, Disney, recognize was a mistake,,in fact has cost millions to the company,,as wasn't owned by Disney and was getting a cannon per year,,,but that's a long history( as were assumed the 92 Olympics would have been hosted in Paris,,)that can be rewritten but could be redirectioned ,,,there cruises are here , not there , and could complement the experience,,,,about universal,,,,left as the company bought by Vivendi co and had huge problema world wide,,,and maybe news are coming,,,,soon from Universal
I absolutely hated this idea at first & thought it was a horrible idea, but honestly the more time goes on, I think it was a really smart play by Disney to get into the Asian Cruise Market for cheap.
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I'm not knocking cruise ships or people who go on them but, as a sailor of a sailing boat, I can't help feeling that the whole cruising industry is becoming 'over the top' with food, luxury, entertainment etc. etc. Also, the size of these vessels, I think, is also a concern not only as far as security but environmental impact of so many turning up all at once in a particular place. I mention security, what would happen if a torpedo or something similar was to be fired at one of these vessels. Its not unthinkable. There are, unfortunately, those who would consider such an act.
While this is a large ship, this is NOT the largest cruise ship in the world. The Oasis class ships from Royal Caribbean are bigger (~360m long, ~65m wide, 236.000 GT, almost 7.000 people out of which ~5.700 passengers) and this year they also announced a new, bigger ship (new class too), Icon of the Seas, which is ~365m long, ~66m wide, 20 decks, 250.000 GT. Can carry at full capacity almost 10.000 people (7.600 guests)
@@moritzk3004 The 9.000 figure was the initial plan, but that is not the case anymore. Disney redesigned the ship to carry up to 6.000 passengers so they can also fit in their cool amenities.
With Disney having the advantage of having the most floor space per passenger of the major cruise lines, I’d be surprised if they kept this ship at its originally intended capacity. It would certainly impact their floor space per passenger ratio negatively at its current capacity/size.
I do know one thing they aren't going to be able to charge their astronomical prices for the Chinese market because they're not going to pay that so it definitely is going to be a challenge to determine pricing but with such a large vessel it shouldn't be that hard. But I'm definitely seeing it in the Asian market I think it would be amazing you have four parks in Asia well three really and I think this would be amazing they just have to carefully tailor the entertainment and offerings towards the Chinese market which I think they can handle well
i want it to stay around new zealand and australia part of the world so people can see the characters and have that experiance without paying so much for flights, accommodation etc.
Remember, Disney has no desire to accommodate any longer. The CEO himself specifically said they want to make the parks more expensive to eliminate lower income people in order to reduce crowds and make a more exclusive experience. The last thing they'll want is to make things more accessible to people who can't afford to fly to Florida, California, or Paris. Disney Cruises already cost 2-4 times a standard cruise.
@MattyPants So that’s why I think their cruises are bit-somewhat a waste. If there cruises are 2-4X expensive than a standard cruise. Then what’s the point of spending that much money when there are even better cruises.
@@shanafrancis9012 depends what you are going for. If you have kids or are a Disney fan, it's unlikely you will find anything better than a Disney Cruise. Im a Disney fanatic, but I avoid the idea of a Disney Cruise because it's too many kids. The theme parks are already out enough it's not all that difficult to avoid them.
@Mattypants That’s true since most of the passengers are mainly families. And that kids would want cruises that have lots of activities. And it’s also great for Disney fans because it’s hard to find a Disney themed cruise other than Disney cruise line and other cruise lines may not reach the fans liking so that makes sense.
I mean I like Disney but a Disney cruise is not my taste since it’s mainly targeted for kids and sometimes a lot of kids can be a bit annoying in my ideal cruise.
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Japan has a Disney theme park, and the business environment seems to be more friendly to an American company like Disney! Let Tokyo be its primary home, and Shanghai and Hong Kong Disneys to be its second and third home in Asia!
More likely its for China. Got a feeling once they settle the Asian market in China down and Vietnam, Austriala likely will be next and have likely better ships.
The CPC is exercising greater control over Shanghai Disneyland? That's news to me. The resort is thriving: they're on track to built a third resort hotel, too.
A few years ago Disney was fighting with Genting about building a casino in Florida... Fast forward to now Disney seem to be doing a lot of "business" together with Genting - with them allowing Genting SkyWorlds theme park to use some Fox IPs and now also Disney purchasing Genting's Cruise Ship. Anyways, I would love to see the Disney cruise ship start serving HK > MY > SIN market.
The ratio of staterooms to passenger capacity on this ship makes no sense. This ship has less staterooms than a Royal Oasis class ship, but can hold 1/3 more passengers? Where?? And with the cost of 1 ship being $1B+, I’m not that surprised someone snapped this up.
I agree that the ship would be set in Asia, and for Australia, they can use the smaller original ships like the magic and wonder. As someone who is booked for the Australian cruising, it's insane the demand
General cruise industry: The ship might be a bargain, but our guests deserve better than a "sloppy seconds" ship. We'll pass.
Modern Disney: Cheap ship? Here here here!
😂😂 truer words have never been spoken
It's white common for lines to buy second hand ships but not company's as large as Disney
I'm sure its for the Chinese market.
@@graceygal2664 That is how Carnival started.
They bought old Canadian Pacific passenger ships and turned them into cruisers. They made money from that then started building new ships.
@@graceygal2664 An basicallt un fitted out unused prebuilt ship, that hasn't even had sea trials. all they have to do is make the finishing touches like custom interiors instead of having to build an ENTIRE ship! Sounds like common business sense to me, you just halved the cost. Plus some.
Turn the whole ship into a Starcruiser themed cruise, make it worth it.
That’s actually not a bad idea
because the starcruiser resort is proving so successful? lol.
What a terrible idea.
@@davidalvarez1560 the difference here would be it moves and they would actually have too give you more too do to make the price worth it. But lets be honest we all know disney will cheap out on it.
Hmm know what just call it the S.S Tipton and make it fun.
They did that with a resort and it's losing so much money it almost makes it seem like they designed it to fail on purpose. The last thing they need to do is waste more money on failed Star Wars endeavors.
I think it will be awesome to see what they do with this ship. They have a lot more room to make more immersive areas. Only thing I’m not a fan of is the 6 funnels. I think it’s a little much. 4 funnels that are a little larger would look better
Southeast Asia, possibly. Given the fact there will probably never be a park on land there because of the heat and humidity, this would be one way to bring Disney closer to a huge, relatively wealthy but cost conscious market.
Agreed with Dom that this ship is bound for Asia. From the looks of it, there seems to be a central promenade not unlike the Oasis class ships of RCCL. Although RCCL has a presence in Asia, their mega Oasis class ships have remained firmly in the Caribbean. Only Quantum class ships have ventured here to Asia. I think there its appetite for such large ships here in Asia.
Not all of them. There is an Oasis class ship that docks in Halifax Nova Scotia once every two weeks.
Wonder of the Seas was designed for the Asian market. As it collapsed from covid they made last minute changes to be able to send it to the US and Europe. If things improve (still not, I think Spectrum just set sail again) it may go back to Asia or Utopia of the Seas may take the spot once delivered. Neither would be until 2024 at the earliest. That would still be ahead of Disney though which is crazy when comparing how far along each vessel is.
@@techwb Yes Spectrum is plying the Southeast Asian market currently while Quantum is now servicing the Aussie market.
im sailing symphony of the seas to from miami to spain in march
Just heard that the ship will be set to sail from singapore in 2025
here's my theory. the ship will do a singapore to hongkong route with stop at bangkok- saigon and hanoi. you get a huge lucrative south east Asia market that want to cruise with Disney but don't want to travel half way around the world. the price of the park entrance is included in the ticket. you can also add stop to tokyo, busan, taipie, manila, and Jakarta. the are room big enough that you can theoretically turn the ship into a floating Disney hotel.
Having just sailed on the Wish, I don't know that this ship is appealing to me. But it is mentioned that it's not for the American market so there you go. I wish Disney could bring their originality to a larger ship and make a ship that is fun for adults and kids alike that has no casinos (Disney doesn't need that) but has fun adult only areas that have more than just bars and trivia. Having toured the kids clubs on the Wish there are so many things they could adapt for adults that would be amazing. Many adults who travel on the Disney ships are just kids at heart.
We love Disney cruising but over the years Disney has lost it's quality food and entertainment. Disney brought innovation to cruising and that was all missing on the Wish. Poor food quality, ridiculous elevators,, we won't sail the Wish ever again and can't recommend it. It's a cattle boat like all the rest.
I don’t think this ship will ever leave Asia, I think it’ll stay that side of the world servicing that market. If so then it makes sense.
The stacks will be converted to suites I’m sure.
Yesterday news in Singapore stead’s that the Disney global dream will be home ported in Singapore for 5 years!
The Global Dream is no more, its now the Disney Adventure
Forget the ship itself, I want to go see that giant hanger it was being built in. The perspective on the video at 2:50 makes it look like almost a regular size ship, but then you realize that its 1/3 of a kilometer long and those little structures next to it are three story buildings. Its really incredible
If it's calling Hong Kong home, it will be massive news as it's originally owned by an HK company and the ship is calling Hong Kong home. And a new terminal might be built next to the resort, maybe at the second phase area (If the government is happy to) and a park like DisneySea might be next to it. This way, the pier can join the parks, a place to park it, and the way to secure income if any other cruise ships owned by Disney uses that port.
I have a feeling it may be based in Yokohama (Tokyo disney)
Man. The theme park at sea was the coolest part!
Cruises that originate in Hong Kong utilizing the former airport in the harbor that is now a cruise port The destinations are limitless but definitely include Shanghai and various other itineraries that were utilied in the Adventures by Disney tours. Great idea that could eventually include a multi week cruise that hits Hong Kong, Shanghai and Tokyo with many stops in between. As well as a repositioning cruse twice a year to run out of Australia and New Zealand. Many, many great things can be done with this new ship !!
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It might have also been a goodwill deal between Resorts World Intl (which is linked to Genting HK) to release some IPs for the Genting Malaysia theme park (remember, there were some disputes there once Disney bought over 20th Century).
It would be interesting to see this ship actually have itineraries from Japan down that line to Sth Korea, to HK, to maybe even the Philippines then doing a tour of SEA (Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia etc) then heading back up to Japan. Could be done chasing good weather (avoiding monsoon seasons closer to the equator and winter seasons further up north).
I know for sure that if it ever came to SEA, it would be fully booked.
I'm hoping for some more regular pacific sailings with the new ship, with lots more days at sea than average!
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i'd love the idea of different themed areas on the ship! kinda like how RCL has different themed areas on their larger ships!
Shanghai Disneyland is inland, while both Tokyo and Hong Kong are built on reclaimed land with first-row ocean access. It will be a very fierce battle between the two to homeport the "Asia Disney Ship".
I think we will win because: first, we can attract more Chinese tourists than Tokyo. Secondly, we are closer to emerging markets like Malaysia, Vietnam and the Philippines. And thirdly, we are more Anglicized than Tokyo, so it's more comfortable for guests from outside of Asia, like Australia NZ etc.
Besides, the ship was designed for Hong Kong to begin with.
Last thing I want is to be on the "worlds largest cruise ship by passenger capacity". Have to admit though, that does make it sound very Disney.
Disney has anounced it will reduce the max Passengers to 6000. Still the biggest ship in the fleet, but not the biggest in the world. Icon of the the Seas will haven 7600 guests.
Our parks our in need of maintenance, or stock price is in the tank, and we are cutting back on just about everything and raising our prices.
Let's buy this partially built cruise ship, it's a real bargain. Just don't ask how much it's going to cost to finish. It's going to be great!
My thoughts exactly! They have to let go of lots of employees- when it’s the cast members who make the experience so magical for guest - but yet can buy this partially finished ship? My opinion of Disney is tanking more and more by the day, unfortunately.
With Bob "Overspending" Iger back in charge again, what else do you expect?
One other thing is the ship has a really really high capacity for it's size. Meaning it won't be the best experience for passengers as everything will be full up all the time, so I wonder what Disney will do / not do about that.
The best thing they could do is lower the passenger limit and increase the quality of living spaces.
But it's also Disney, and that would make them less money, so...
@@s.i.m.poster6823 they will decrease its max capacity. Down to about 6000
Global Dream isn't "The World's Largest Cruise Ship": only 342 metres in length, 208,000 tons. World’s biggest cruise ship is ‘Wonder of the Seas', 362m long, 230,000 tons, launched on 20 August 2021 by French shipbuilder at St Nazaire, France. Previous World record 'Symphony of the Seas' launched by French shipbuilder in 2018. 'Harmony of the Seas' launched by French shipbuilder in 2016.
World’s biggest Atlantic liner QM2 (345 m, 76,000 tons) : built in 2004 by French shipbuilder at St Nazaire, France.
Wow. Definitely the world's largest ship! Still a whopping 42,000 tons behind icon of the seas
Yeah the titles misleading
It was supposed to be the world's most populated cruise ship at over 9k passengers, but it's now down to 6k with Disney. Porbably still the biggest cruise ship in Asia though
@@jcspotter7322 if it is that many. I'll pass. Massive amount of people for a ship that would probably be crowded with that many people
@Stankbagel ships that size aren't really that crowded. The only time you typically feel crowded could be boarding or at a smaller type port
@@jcspotter7322 Norwegian still manages to do it
Imagine a cruise that starts in Hong Kong and hits Disneyland Hong Kong, Tokyo Disney Sea, and ends at a port closest to Shanghai and they offer a singular cruise, 7 days perhaps, with an overnight in Tokyo so you can do all 3 park locations. One way to Hong Kong airfare, 1 Disney hotel night prior to cruise, 6 nights on the boat, 2 sea days, 1 overnight in tokyo, a final hotel stay at Shanghai and a one-way flight back.
For me, this good for ocean crossings just like transatlantic crossing so that guests can fully explore the ship and not miss all entertainment on that ship and she can sail between US and Europe vice versa.
This ship will not fit most of the ports in Asia except Hong Kong because there are no Oasis class ship sailing in Asia only Europe and US only
9,000 guests and 2,200 crew……that’s roughly 11,200 people on board. How to they plan to evacuate that many people in an emergency? Especially since the ship will be in monsoon and tsunami territory if it goes to Asia. I thought cruise ship builders were reevaluating the capacity limit of ships since the near disaster that the Costa Concordia was?
I always thought of that.. you’re right like imagine evacuating all those people..
They changed it into up to 6000 guests now
Here is where I'm at.
I recalled in a Twitter post that when Disney announced that they will purchase the Global Dream, I responded with optimism and some scepticism. By buying off a ship that is almost completed, stick it with some Mickey Mouse branding, and send it to a new market like Asia, this may actually be a genius move to expand their footprint, given that they have resorts in Shanghai, Hong Kong, and Tokyo. A combined Disneyland / Disney Cruise experience is something that will get tourists flocking to them because they want a complete Disney holiday, which is already being done with Walt Disney World.
However, it doesn't take a genius or a fanatic to see that this might not work at all. First, the rendering tells me that they are trying to retain the look as all the other ships in their fleet. However, the Global Dream was a completely different design, so it is always going to look hideous. (Six funnels, really?) Second, at 208,000 tonnes, it is easily one of the biggest cruise ships in the world and even bigger than any ship Disney built, which is why it probably makes sense to send this ship to Asia because it is far and away the biggest market for the company.
Perhaps what might be really concerning is the direction Disney is currently taking at this point in time. I mean, come on, why can't they do something different like a _Tron_-themed roller-coaster or a multi-slide AquaRacer or bring back the adults-only district instead of removing a roller-coaster, add super luxurious suites, and adding too much IP than maintaining the overall concept design of the past ships?
Yes, in the space of four years, Disney will double the size of its ships and yet half of them aren't as grand as you may think. Personally, I would rather take the _Wonder_ over that ship because it makes sense for the Australian / South Pacific market, plus we're getting a real Disney experience that for so long we waited for decades, but didn't come. What matters is that it's the experience that counts, and right now, the Parks & Resorts are a mess. Poor maintenance, confusing reservations, and attractions that are not interesting. And they are paying more to visit Disney parks, so is this any good?
This disconnect with its fans and people is clearly seen in Disneyland, Walt Disney World and even the cruise line. And it's not limited to that: the Studio business is semi-floundering (Star Wars fans not happy, _Strange World_ already bombed?), the streaming business is expensive and lacking quality, the political interference and wokeness is getting a bit out of hand, and worse, cast members are getting laid off just as this was announced. No wonder why it's stock is taking a beating, but then again, the world is almost to hitting another recession. But that doesn't mean they can't improve what they already have. And yet they're not doing as much to bring more guests and have a good time after this change of leadership.
So yes, I like the way Disney is trying to pull a Cinderella move by purchasing the Global Dream and add it to it's cruise line. If it works, then this is one of their most genius decisions that will cement themselves as the world's leading entertainment giant as it recovers from the COVID pandemic. But it's the experience that counts and so far, Disney is struggling to satisfy its fanbase and guests with its sub-par offerings and rising prices. It doesn't help that its rivals are taking guests away with new theme parks and experiences that people will go to that new, exciting and different (and that is exactly what is happening with Universal Studios and its soon-to-be-open Epic Universe).
In other words, with so many fans out of touch with this brand even as they announced the acquisition of the Global Dream, has Disney really lost it's magic? And if they do, are they willing to change its creative and business direction before it's too late?
I hope they understand, but I beg to differ...
disney has definatly lost its magic... maintaince and low staffing on the parks are an issue as cheap-pak tries to cut costs at the expense of the consumer experience... i cant wait for epic universe and unversal to steamroll disney as they have become very cheap and lazy as of recent...
Great to see you laid all this out in a good way!
The ship will be set to sail from singapore in 2025 for a 5 years contract. Just heard the news.
The Global dream isn't the world's biggest cruise ship though, there are several RC Oasis class ships that beat it out in length and tonnage... not to mention Icon...
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You know Disney will want to launch and debut it in Florida for first sailings to claim dominance over having the largest cruise ship in the world to be the first ship to go to their new island. It's a statement move but after initial sailings, probably Asia with rotating it out to be in Florida every few years for limited runs (at crazy costs of course) while to give Asia older ships to clear their full Disney fleet bucket list die hard cruisers try to achieve.
Disney have a new island? hmmmm need to research that
@@brownsense1 Lighthouse Point, it's currently being developed and planned to start use in 2024
Largest cruise ship in the world I don't think so.icon ots.wonder ots.etc etc.
Wonder OTS and future Icon OTS are bigger
Stena line was interested in purchasing it, it would have been so hilarious if the biggest cruise ship in the world was converted into your typical Stena line ferry
It’s not the worlds largest, it’s only one of the largest.
Who the hell thinks piling into a metal box with 9000 other people is a vacation? Sounds like hell on earth
fun fact: global dream also has a incomplete sister ship that is unamed
It’s going to the scrap yard
Imagine a cruiseship dedicated to only one Theme. Like only Star Wars or Marvel...
Largest capacity. But that title doesn’t sound as cool
Genting: "It holds 9,000 pax!" Disney: "Sold! Goofy, you're in charge of embarkation." Grab your popcorn!
Disney bought the ship months ago.. they just publicly announced it a few days ago!
I do think it’s a good idea that the new Disney cruise ship should reach Asian cities like Shanghai, Hong Kong, Japan, etc.
I think they should dock all safe and secure at good old Lake Mead! That way, the location matches the ambiance of the "parent company's "Theme Parks!"
I lost it when you revealed the roller coaster isn't in the concept art
If the Meyer Werft is supposed to finish that thing up, that is going to be a logistical nightmare given how big that thing is... Because the Meyer Werft is located up a river which needs to be temporarily blocked up in order to raise the water levels high enough for cruise ships built there to get out to sea in the first place. Getting that half-done ship UP that river, finish it up and then get it back DOWN the river again is going to be a major headache... A spectacle to be sure, but I am not sure the locals are going to be all that happy about it, given how much hassle each ship transfer on that river means for them. And yes, that DOES include deconstruction of a couple bridges if i remember correctly.
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Bring Disney to Bali please!!!
I'm not surprised Disney brought this ship as that was the scuttlebut for a while. A cheap ship with up to double of the capacity of the triton for potentially a cheaper or similar price as an extra triton.
However with most cruise lines opting for vessels with similar or less passenger capacity currently in the future and disneys astronomical prices compared. Things get iffy.
They could also be replacing the older vessels of their fleet with these new ones and either selling their older vessels likely to luxury market or if not possible just getting as much money for scrap as possible.
It's no where near the world largest,especially with the new capacity
In gross tonnage wonder of seas is bigger, final oasis will be bigger and icon will be bigger
@@superheracross89 Yeah I know! :)
I hope they buy the global dream 2 to make this a sister ship.
No
@@daniel24102 I know this ship isn't ideal. But if they can modify it to the quality of the Fantasy a sister ship would be great.
I'm amazed at the shed that houses the ship while its been fitted out - truly amazing engineering
Is it unsinkable?
Enough lifeboats?
Will they allow aboard people who name is cal?
And all ships has a ballroom but Disney has a dancing stage ballroom
I wish it comes to hk cause there are no ships here
They could turn it into Star cruiser at Sea.
And there smokestack acctually has a firework vent
Make a second type of Disney cruise ship? A budget one maybe
Damn. Pretty soon they’ll own the whole solar system.
disney: haha we just bought the worlds largest cruise ship which is the global dream😎
icon of the seas: *appears* yo wsp disney
How is it the largest if its only the 8th largest under construction (the largest being the 3 Icon class ships)
And if we look at the ships currently in service it will only be the 7th largest.
So it will eventually only ve the 15th largest.
This will give royal caribbean some competition on the mega cruise ship market!
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Disney should invest getting into Port Aventura close to Barcelona, as management role and make a whole Disney e experience with the cruises and linking through Disney high speed train to the parks in Disneyland resort Paris as they already have highspeed trains stations in front of both resorts,,and maybe universal is taking this option in real consideration
If Disney so little as touches PA I'm going to kill somebody
WHY ON EARTH would Disney purchase PortAventura, when it was built specifically on a site that Disney didn't want ? Also, Universal used to have a partnership with PA, there's a reason they're not going back to it...
If they ever come back to Europe, it's probably gonna be in Melun, near Paris, where they are close to Orly Intl airport, would have their own high speed station just like Disney, and much closer to the rest of Europe
When a company, Disney, recognize was a mistake,,in fact has cost millions to the company,,as wasn't owned by Disney and was getting a cannon per year,,,but that's a long history( as were assumed the 92 Olympics would have been hosted in Paris,,)that can be rewritten but could be redirectioned ,,,there cruises are here , not there , and could complement the experience,,,,about universal,,,,left as the company bought by Vivendi co and had huge problema world wide,,,and maybe news are coming,,,,soon from Universal
A roller coaster on top a cruise ship… what could go wrong? Switch to decaf, Imagineers.
I absolutely hated this idea at first & thought it was a horrible idea, but honestly the more time goes on, I think it was a really smart play by Disney to get into the Asian Cruise Market for cheap.
It's not the world's largest ship by any means. Royal Caribbeans Oasis class is still bigger
Disney haters: "DISNEY HAS PUSHED ALL OF US LOYAL FANS AWAY BY MAKING DECISIONS THAT PERSONALLY UPSET US AND IS NOW GOING BANKRUPT."
Disney: "I'm a gonna buy a really huge ship just because I can!"
Largest by capacity only! Largest overall is still Wonder of the Seas 💪 Until Icon is done of course
6.000
Disney has also bought Fox Studios, later renamed Disney Studios, Australia.
I'm not knocking cruise ships or people who go on them but, as a sailor of a sailing boat, I can't help feeling that the whole cruising industry is becoming 'over the top' with food, luxury, entertainment etc. etc. Also, the size of these vessels, I think, is also a concern not only as far as security but environmental impact of so many turning up all at once in a particular place. I mention security, what would happen if a torpedo or something similar was to be fired at one of these vessels. Its not unthinkable. There are, unfortunately, those who would consider such an act.
While this is a large ship, this is NOT the largest cruise ship in the world. The Oasis class ships from Royal Caribbean are bigger (~360m long, ~65m wide, 236.000 GT, almost 7.000 people out of which ~5.700 passengers) and this year they also announced a new, bigger ship (new class too), Icon of the Seas, which is ~365m long, ~66m wide, 20 decks, 250.000 GT. Can carry at full capacity almost 10.000 people (7.600 guests)
Largest cruise ship by passenger capacity (9000) as mentioned in 0:55
@@moritzk3004 The 9.000 figure was the initial plan, but that is not the case anymore. Disney redesigned the ship to carry up to 6.000 passengers so they can also fit in their cool amenities.
@@TheoPoufinas they bought the largest cruise ship and made it smaller, thats also said in the video...
Maybe have also sail to the USA for Disney Land. And back to Asia, so fans can enjoy the Disney parks there.
Wonder if Disney is thinking about going forward with the plan Eisner once had, for a floating Disney “Park”???
With Disney having the advantage of having the most floor space per passenger of the major cruise lines, I’d be surprised if they kept this ship at its originally intended capacity. It would certainly impact their floor space per passenger ratio negatively at its current capacity/size.
Load it with Disney employees, officers, directors. Then, please, sail it into the nearest ice berg or, better yet, The Bermuda Triangle.
D23 has announced the cruise ship name called the Disney Adventure
This is probably why Disney fired CEO Bob Chapek. This gives the moniker "White Elephant" a whole new meaning.
Buying the ship and removing the roller coaster and the balconies that face inward Disney does that
There was already a starcuiser from a different cruise line
I do know one thing they aren't going to be able to charge their astronomical prices for the Chinese market because they're not going to pay that so it definitely is going to be a challenge to determine pricing but with such a large vessel it shouldn't be that hard. But I'm definitely seeing it in the Asian market I think it would be amazing you have four parks in Asia well three really and I think this would be amazing they just have to carefully tailor the entertainment and offerings towards the Chinese market which I think they can handle well
I’d like the ship home to be the UK because we need to travel a long way to get to them😢
It looks like a Royal Caribbean Oasis class ship
If this is anything like the Galactic Starcruiser & similarly priced, it is going to be mostly empty. This won't do them any favours.
It is a wise investment by Disney, since Cruise tourism is catching up like wild fire in the new millennium 👌❤️
Diesel powered liners are being banned from several destinations. Thats the dark cloud hanging overhead.
Lmao catching up like a wildfire? Not at all, this industry is going down right now
i want it to stay around new zealand and australia part of the world so people can see the characters and have that experiance without paying so much for flights, accommodation etc.
Remember, Disney has no desire to accommodate any longer. The CEO himself specifically said they want to make the parks more expensive to eliminate lower income people in order to reduce crowds and make a more exclusive experience. The last thing they'll want is to make things more accessible to people who can't afford to fly to Florida, California, or Paris. Disney Cruises already cost 2-4 times a standard cruise.
@MattyPants So that’s why I think their cruises are bit-somewhat a waste. If there cruises are 2-4X expensive than a standard cruise. Then what’s the point of spending that much money when there are even better cruises.
@@shanafrancis9012 depends what you are going for. If you have kids or are a Disney fan, it's unlikely you will find anything better than a Disney Cruise. Im a Disney fanatic, but I avoid the idea of a Disney Cruise because it's too many kids. The theme parks are already out enough it's not all that difficult to avoid them.
@Mattypants That’s true since most of the passengers are mainly families. And that kids would want cruises that have lots of activities. And it’s also great for Disney fans because it’s hard to find a Disney themed cruise other than Disney cruise line and other cruise lines may not reach the fans liking so that makes sense.
I mean I like Disney but a Disney cruise is not my taste since it’s mainly targeted for kids and sometimes a lot of kids can be a bit annoying in my ideal cruise.
wait what about the costa concordia
Wow this will be so cool so now Disney has the worldest largest cruise ship
Evidently Disney paid 6 cents on the dollar for this boat. Can't go wrong.
Looking very nice..
Chapek: I’m buying Disney a bazillion dollar, unfinished cruise ship to service a part of the world that is susceptible to extreme political unrest and health issues. Ooooopps….gotta go!! Love ya, Disney!!
Iger: 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
Hope they acquire the sister ship too
Japan has a Disney theme park, and the business environment seems to be more friendly to an American company like Disney! Let Tokyo be its primary home, and Shanghai and Hong Kong Disneys to be its second and third home in Asia!
Could this be the Australian based ship once the test cruises are done?
More likely its for China. Got a feeling once they settle the Asian market in China down and Vietnam, Austriala likely will be next and have likely better ships.
The CPC is exercising greater control over Shanghai Disneyland? That's news to me. The resort is thriving: they're on track to built a third resort hotel, too.
A few years ago Disney was fighting with Genting about building a casino in Florida...
Fast forward to now Disney seem to be doing a lot of "business" together with Genting - with them allowing Genting SkyWorlds theme park to use some Fox IPs and now also Disney purchasing Genting's Cruise Ship.
Anyways, I would love to see the Disney cruise ship start serving HK > MY > SIN market.
I hope america gets disney ships like this
I would like to see it in Australia.
The ratio of staterooms to passenger capacity on this ship makes no sense. This ship has less staterooms than a Royal Oasis class ship, but can hold 1/3 more passengers? Where??
And with the cost of 1 ship being $1B+, I’m not that surprised someone snapped this up.
6 funnel!? How about 3 funnel instead like queen Mary!