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Was just wondering if you just melted the metal and poured it without removing the scum from the metal with a graphite rod, this may be the reason for the dimpled quality of the piece?
Amazing parts list.. I am honestly subscribing just because of the amount of care that you obviously put into your videos by doing things like this very comment.
Some advice for you mate, I've been a jeweller for 40 years, so I know a thing or two. When cleaning up the ring, leave the main sprew on, it means you can hold it very easily while fettling the piece, you can even wait untill after the main polish to remove it. Just a tip. Hope you take no offence at the sugestion, and it helps.
iv recently started doing rings out of resin silver and copper but am thinking about learning casting since you have been a jeweller for 40 years have you ever done casting?
@@lordsathariel4384 I have done quite a bit of casting yes, but using the tradditional lost wax and also cuttle fish. I usually make a master out of brass and use this to make a mold. I have done a lot of sand casting also, both for jewellery and other stuff.
I just wanted to let you know that you helped start me on a 3D design and casting frenzy! I found this video some years ago and was immediately interested in casting my own rings Ive made over 20 different models of rings and even a couple collections of charms in silver! Just wanted to say thank you for the content you post!
Good video. I took an adult education class on Jewelry Making years ago taught by a very experienced person. I remember two good tips: 1) Coat the wax masters with dilute dishwashing spot remover before putting into the investment. It's just a wetting agent and will allow a more intimate contact between the investment and the wax. 2) Eucalypts oil dissolves wax readily and can be used to "polish" the wax master before casting. I think it would also work on the 3D printed master.
GF, (goldsmith) said add new always to your metal. It helps prevent pitting. And your broken sprue was probably because you did not hit all 4 sides of the mountpoint with heat.
Very cool video. Thank you. And thank you for not cutting the parts where it didn't turn out the way you were expecting it to / wanting it.. To be hoenst, that was exactly what I needed to see. I would have been devastated if I had purchased all of the hardware, products, chemicals and spent the time to learn how to even just do it all for my first time and THEN learned how hard and "messy" this process is. And by messy I mean messy like a relationship (complicated) not messy like making brownies. Graphite molds seem much more my speed :) Again, thank you!
In high school I did a lost wax casting in my material science class with a centrifuge to force the metal in to the cast. I had to carve my ring out of a blank and it was a learning experience
You can actually do the conversion from wax to silver using water displacement. If you have a measured amount of water in a graduated cylinder, you can drop your piece in and measure the difference. Take the difference and using the density of water, you can then write that down and do the conversion from silver density to water density. Google will tell you that in a split second, so it's not too hard. Add a bit extra silver to account for losses and sprewing!
Thank you so much for this video, its really helped me understand how this machine is used and what its for, My daughter is doing a degree in design and jewellery and will finish as a gold and silversmith with design knowledge, she will then need to go and do a apprenticeship for 5 years or so to perfect her skills , one of the things i want for her to have is a proper studio at home where she can feel free to design, explore and make pieces how she wants to. She has been using illustrator intensively in the design process and is very good at it and its great to see the use of the resin printer as thats what they are doing at the moment, the beauty of this of course is that you can reproduce the item time and time again however you do lose the "on off" ability skill that you get from hand making the piece and the uniqueness of it that you get by using wax yourself. It is a pity that you didn't include in the shoot the actual pour of molten metal into the flask and show it being put under vacuum. Thats what I understand the machine does so negates the use of a centrifuge completely by using a vacuum pump to suck the metal into every part of the mould. I use 3d printers quite a lot but using plastic not the new resin ones so I am not sure exactly as to the quality of the finished piece, is it better than a normal 3d printer using abs or pla? On PlA prints I sometimes find I use a spray automotive filler to get rid of any imperfections before I spray them but you were saying this is down to the burnout in the kiln not being perfect . Well basically this is a piece of kit I need to add to the list to complete the studio for Georgie rather than a centrifuge so its time to spend some money, over here they cost around the 600 euros mark in europe. Every one of these machines seems to be exactly the same just with a different badge on it, They appear to be all made in china which is fine by me if they are not made anywhere else. Again thanks a lot for the video and good luck.
Good day! Is it possible to do without a vacuum casting machine or a cheaper analogue? Because they are expensive, the programmable oven is also expensive. At best, $ 500 each. I thought that a smelter for casting jewelry would be enough for me ... but it seems not😅
Yeah kinda need all this stuff to get reliable results every time. Also yeah the setup is very expensive and I understand why people would want to save money on doing it. If you just have a smelter you can still do sand casting, but you will be very limited in what you can make.
Thanks for the answer! In this case, a reasonable question. Can a Tabletop furnace be used to melt metals? in fact it can heat up to 2200F. If the rod is covered with a metal lid in it and it is possible to melt thus saving money on a melting furnace?
So it can get hot enough to melt metal but I don't think it would work very well to do the full casting setup if you are doing a burnout in it as well. You can get a cheap Chinese smelter for under $200 or you can also melt metal with just to torch. MAPP gas will work and that torch setup is like $60-70.
@@GomeowCreations In any case, my production volumes are extremely small, I think that I would hardly use both a melting furnace and a heating furnace at the same time, so it would be a good option for a start. But the only thing that stops me is the question of the programs of this oven. Do I have to turn on melting at a given temperature for a certain time each time and then adjust the program for wax firing each time? Or would it be enough to set up the wax program once and then flatter the other melting program?
for your purposes, set your scale to DWT. weigh (all spruing included) your piece and multiply by 10.5 for sterling silver, 8.5 for bronze (good for master molds) and 14.5 for 14k gold. also, you can eliminate the pitting in the cast by setting your casting temp higher, i would say go up from 950 to 1100
This is really cool "Hand Man." I always wanted to know how jewelry craftsmen made those tiny works of art. So intercut, and highly detailed. "Thumbs up," hand man.
Yeah, my hands are a little much in this video so I was trying to fix that seeing that a lot of people didn't like it very much. If you do really like the hand movements as they are, well thank you 😁👍
Yeah after learning more about casting and there are better ways to use it than I was doing. I do still like the perforated flask and I did make a new video using them th-cam.com/video/t2H_lV8IOyY/w-d-xo.html
Wax/castable resin is made to be equalvalent to water so to termin metal weight just multiple wax weight by the specific gravity of the metal then add between 5-15g for the sprue
I don't understand how the vacuum while pouring is working. Is it supposedly pulling air all the way through the walls of the investment? How significant is the difference if you forgot to turn on the vacuum while pouring? thanks for the video!
It will also pull the metal but it can't pass through the investment like are can so it will just fill the area and make sure it doesn't have any trapped air.
Great work with only a week learning the lost wax process.. If you're melting gold make sure you have a reservoir mid way down your sprues as that will trap any porosity if the button doesn't catch it all, Have a little look into sprue designs.. some people recommend not having a sprue hit directly at a flat spot on your piece, If angled slightly it helps for a smoother transition. Just see what works best for you, Great work fun video to watch 👍
Thank for the info and I have done a little more casting and it seems to be getting better th-cam.com/video/WEzT_qej4_c/w-d-xo.html I'm also working on another video about using some new castable resin. I hope to have it done this weekend
hi thanks for the video, its nice to see someone experimenting with CAD and casting. I have two tips - just use a sheet of paper wrapped firmly round the flask and taped rather than using expensive and messy tape, it does the job with no fuss and is much less messy. As for your maths - the specific gravity weight of silver is 10.4 so you will need 10.4 grams of silver for every one gram of wax or 10.4 ounces of silver for every one ounce of wax or resin. You also need to add an extra ten grams (or equivalent) for the button and tree. So for two wax or printed rings weighing a gram each you will need 20.8 grams of silver plus 10g for the button a total of 30.8grams. Weighing your base before spruing up and after will give you the most accurate weight. hope these two tips help!
Can you create a support tree in the print slider that can double as the connection to the base inside the cast? I imagine if it was done correctly you could even save on print clean up.
I think the mixer introduces a lot of air to the investment no? are you mixing 38/100? when casting silver I would mix 50% sterling and 50% fresh silver. thanks for the vid :)
I've been doing lost wax casting for over 40 years. In fact I filled my store with gold & silver jewelry I cast. Now I'm wondering if I should try to learn 3-D printing or just stick with carving wax and making rubber molds. Should I bother at age 62 or just say fuggit?
Foreal hahaha I guess I'd bother with it if I was selling real gold rings though. That has to be the best use for this (and to make back your money from what looks to be an expensive venture lol)
Thanks so much for this. I've been 3D printing for a long time and have been interested in getting into lost wax casting but didn't have a good idea of the machinery and time involved. This really helps answer a lot of the questions that I had.
Hey hey im not sure if you already knew the tip im gonna give you but if you put pure lemon juice in a heat safe bowl like a chocolate fondue set with a candle underneath you can get the soot and other things of the silver:). There is a specialised acid goldsmiths use but personaly i liked the lemon juice trick better because i had my workshop in my bedroom:p.
Love the videos mate. Ive been making jewellery for 3 years a love watching your videos giving me ideas. Been keen on wax lost casting for awhile but worried about set up costs. Cheers
@@GomeowCreations living in New Zealand very small market for second hand jewellery equipment unfortunately, out of your 3d printers what's your favourite?
Is it neccessary to have the flask smoking hot when you put it on the rubber gasket for pouring? Could you let it cool down to a room temperature before putting it on the rubber gasket without messing up the vacuum ability of the investment or the overall cast?
Would it not be possible to 3D-print a negative of the object (basically a re-usable mould) in resin and cast wax forms in that to use for the metal casting process? I'd say that would speed up the build process right?
You might be able to do that but idk how well the wax would work in it as a mold. They have a clear silicone you can use for mold making. This is great if you want to make the same item over and over but if you are only going to make like 1-20 of them it might be better off just printing them.
as a totally new oustider who is trying to break in to this industry, what do you sugest I do to start my learning journey... are there are any vendor in-person trainings or some other resources you advise We can explore. ?
I just out of high school I got a job at Delton Locomotive Works. We built "G" scale locomotives and the period correct box cars tank cars etc. I had a great time back then but that was 36 years ago. I "tree'd" up parts along with mixing all the plaster that we filled the flasks with to cast the next day. At the end of the day we loaded our kiln with probably 15-25 flasks and kiln would bake the plastic and let the wax would melt out, we poured probably at least 25 lbs of brass every morning Let me know if can help you at all Peace, Rich
So I switched over to clear packing tape and it works perfectly and it's very cheap but thanks for the suggestion. I also made a full new video basically redoing this one about a year and a half after but I feel it is much better than this video.
Can you use FDM printers? I know they leave lines but I've been able to print pretty smooth prints using my modified (klipper raspberry pi with mod hotend) Ender 5 s1.
@@GomeowCreations Thank you! And I loved your video, it gave me a good idea where to start! I’m looking forward to expanding my hobby into metal casting and jewelry making. I have a few designs I’ve created I can’t wait to see in silver. 😊
I just casted 15 small pendants in silver.. they are very detailed. What’s the best way to polish them to remove the “silver dullness look” ? I spoke with a jewler and he told me you can’t really polish them to much as the details will be removed.
I think the bubbles at the silver ring comes from leftover wax (lowest point can't easily get out of the mold). Try to put it on top or put another connection from the lowest point to the stem of your tree. Also, i made some good rings without vacuuming (?) the mold, just bump it on a table to get the air bubbles out.
Hi, can you advice me on a kiln question. My power supply in Singapore is 220v so the US made kiln would not work and using a transformer is out of the equation. Is there a another way to melt the wax away without this kiln?
@@GomeowCreations It's hard to explain but the foam doesn't put a lot of pressure on the plastic. You just have to make it tall enough to hold it. Another way might be to use a flexible cutting board. It can wrap around and if you use a strong enough rubber band can seal tight enough to keep leaks to a minimum. It is also reusable. Another idea is to get a sheet of gasket material or neoprene. At worst you would just need to tape the overlap or rubber cement it into a sleeve. The more I think about it there has to e a commercially available solution to this issue.
Ive just began this process for the first time and im confused as my tabletop furnace has a black interior now, i dont understand how your flasks and come out white and perfect after the burnout, any suggestions?
Did you do the first burn in processed when you first got the kiln? This is a first time setup you have to do with it and makes a lot of smoke and everything turns black then it will turn white
@@GomeowCreationsyea i did the first burn in process, it ended up clearing up and turning white again near the end of the burnout. Thanks for the reply!
what is the purpose of the vacuum when pouring the cast? there are no openings in the plaster and if its porosity was that high that it cause a vacuum in the mold i would expect the metal would flow through it as well no?
The investment is porous so it will allow air to be pulled throw it but not liquid metal. Think of the metal being too thick to go into the holes but the air can fit through it with no problem.
Great video. I have a question. Do you know Geoff Thomas design? His rings have incredible detail. Can you get that level of detail with this vacuum process or would it require a pressurized vacuum system?
Great and instructive video. Did you cast the spearhead ? Any videos ? BTW: the spearhead original dates back from 800-1200 BC and was found as part of the Selbourne-Blackmoore hoard find in Wolmer Forest (England). So, you are reproducing a 2800 to 3200 year old weapon. Bravo.
Hi! I just saw your video. I have just started too in wax casting for the last 3 months. One advice I can give you , that I found out the hard way, is better to design and print the sprue with the ring and also the tree. I design everything the tree, the ring with its sprue and print everything in the same batch and then put them together with a drop of resin and then cure it with UV light and Everything stays together. Other small thing is the time of burnout I have better results at least with 4 hours at 1,350 degrees. Hope this helps you, I need help learning to polish the pieces when the come out, I have mess a lot of pieces because of this, so after all the hours put on it to mess it up at the end is so frustrating. I can send you images of how I design the sprue and trees. Bye
I will go over that in a new video I'm amazing about this right now. But to sum it up with my electric cost at $0.08 per kWh it was about $0.40 for the burnout.
@@GomeowCreations That's a great idea, I'm very interested in this but haven't been able to find a video with a run down of costs (machines, operation costs, materials: resins, metals, etc. work hours). Would love to find out more before jumping in!
The thing I don't understand is how the vacuum chamber pulls through the molten metal inside. As I see, It doesn't have any holes on the investmet to suck the air and create negative pressure on the other side? Does that investment has porous structure?
Jeweler for a few years, getting a 3D printer for this reason in a few weeks. This video makes me MUCH more excited than I was! Can't wait to see the resin comparisons! 😁
Oh nice. Yeah I have 7 different printers to work with here 😅 all of them are different too haha. I did some castable resin prints with my Anycubic Mono and Elegoo Mar 2 pro for my new video.
@@GomeowCreations I'll keep my eye out for them! We're getting into copper growing on resin prints as well. It opens up so many doors! All the best of luck! I'm currently buying some of your equipment too. It's nice to see them in action. You're gonna do some great work... I can tell. 😉
How much would you charge me to do a lost wax cast of a small trinket if i was to send it to you made out of the wax product of your choice? It would not need to be perfect. In fact some air bubles and imperfections would be what I would prefer.
Forewarning, I have not yet finished the video, but I just wanted to give you a heads up! If you connect your piece to another "tree limb" instead of directly off the main sprew, then it will make cleanup much easier for you afterwards. It will mean that it requires *slightly* more silver to cast, but it can obviously just be repurposed and re-cast as scrap. Edit: Never mind! He did it with the ring piece, showing exactly what I was talking about.
Yeah, it helps with adhesion and makes sure that metal gets to where it needs to be. Always sucks when something doesn't come out, but if ya learn then that's what matters! It certainly doesn't help that you aren't able to see what's going on inside the plaster, and are unable to diagnose things as they happen.
Great video. I've been getting into lost wax casting for the past year and have been dealing with a lot of trial and error. I've had a nightmare of a time getting consistent results from using castable resin. I know some advice given to me was flipping the flask at something to allow more ventilation and also having the final burn out stage at a slightly higher temp. It sucks that the castable resin is so expensive. Have you been experiencing determination or contamination from using the graphite crucible. When I poor out the excess amount of molten metal into a ingot I see black stuff/impure metal. Also....would it be possible to blow out the residue from the flask with out damaging the mold? I assume the left over resin would come out but I can imagine the sudden temperature change could mayne damage the investment? Also it would cause some flames i presume.
A year later, how has the casting gone? Have you worked out the kinks yet? It seems like the burnout process consumes a lot of time and energy, is wax the same way? Could you more easily create a negative mold through 3d printing and "cast" a wax mold to then burnout in just 1 or 2 hours?
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Was just wondering if you just melted the metal and poured it without removing the scum from the metal with a graphite rod, this may be the reason for the dimpled quality of the piece?
They where so lost that a TH-camr found it while 3d printing! Quit with the click bait.
Amazing parts list.. I am honestly subscribing just because of the amount of care that you obviously put into your videos by doing things like this very comment.
Very helpful …. Thank you
Hi, can you tell me about the finger cots at 34:09? I wish I had some of those when I did lost wax back in college.
Some advice for you mate, I've been a jeweller for 40 years, so I know a thing or two. When cleaning up the ring, leave the main sprew on, it means you can hold it very easily while fettling the piece, you can even wait untill after the main polish to remove it. Just a tip. Hope you take no offence at the sugestion, and it helps.
Thanks and I will give that a try for sure 😁👍
iv recently started doing rings out of resin silver and copper but am thinking about learning casting since you have been a jeweller for 40 years have you ever done casting?
@@lordsathariel4384 I have done quite a bit of casting yes, but using the tradditional lost wax and also cuttle fish. I usually make a master out of brass and use this to make a mold. I have done a lot of sand casting also, both for jewellery and other stuff.
@@Fizzbin25 ah i see
@@Fizzbin25 when you do lost wax do you use a burnout oven for the wax or what? cus iv seen some crazy people get rid of the wax many different ways
I just wanted to let you know that you helped start me on a 3D design and casting frenzy! I found this video some years ago and was immediately interested in casting my own rings Ive made over 20 different models of rings and even a couple collections of charms in silver! Just wanted to say thank you for the content you post!
Good video. I took an adult education class on Jewelry Making years ago taught by a very experienced person. I remember two good tips: 1) Coat the wax masters with dilute dishwashing spot remover before putting into the investment. It's just a wetting agent and will allow a more intimate contact between the investment and the wax. 2) Eucalypts oil dissolves wax readily and can be used to "polish" the wax master before casting. I think it would also work on the 3D printed master.
Wow, that is a lot of prep work for a single ring. Thanks for the complete explanation.
Yeah normal you want to make a lot more all at once 😅
This is so good, a truely detailed and interesting tutorial on lost wax! Thank you for the collaboration, it came out so awesome!
Well thank you and sorry it took so long to get it all done 😅
@@GomeowCreations it’s awesome, let me know if you ever want more! I loved seeing my work turned into a real durable piece!
Will do and I will message you over on IG
Thanks!
Thank you and I didn't see this until now. So this means you are the first person to do a super thanks. 😁👍
As a jewelry craftsman i'm impressed how you nailed casting process! Nice work!
Thanks and I have gotten a bit better at it over the years th-cam.com/video/t2H_lV8IOyY/w-d-xo.html 😁
You explain everything incredibly well, I always have a clear understanding of what to do and you save me hours of time. Thanks
GF, (goldsmith) said add new always to your metal. It helps prevent pitting. And your broken sprue was probably because you did not hit all 4 sides of the mountpoint with heat.
Very cool video. Thank you.
And thank you for not cutting the parts where it didn't turn out the way you were expecting it to / wanting it.. To be hoenst, that was exactly what I needed to see. I would have been devastated if I had purchased all of the hardware, products, chemicals and spent the time to learn how to even just do it all for my first time and THEN learned how hard and "messy" this process is. And by messy I mean messy like a relationship (complicated) not messy like making brownies.
Graphite molds seem much more my speed :)
Again, thank you!
Thanks for all the detailed info. Looking to get into this hopefully soon as soon as i can afford the equipment.
In high school I did a lost wax casting in my material science class with a centrifuge to force the metal in to the cast. I had to carve my ring out of a blank and it was a learning experience
What class was it
Excellent stuff. Getting into 3d printing, and already doing aluminum casting for parts. Love your investment setup!
Thanks and yeah if you have any questions feel free to ask
By far the best video I’ve seen on this subject and I’ve tried to watch them all
You can actually do the conversion from wax to silver using water displacement. If you have a measured amount of water in a graduated cylinder, you can drop your piece in and measure the difference. Take the difference and using the density of water, you can then write that down and do the conversion from silver density to water density. Google will tell you that in a split second, so it's not too hard. Add a bit extra silver to account for losses and sprewing!
Dude! You are a great teacher. Thanks for the shout-out.
Thanks and thanks for sending me the file for the ring. 😁
Honestly, the roughness of the final product makes it looks that much more real.. cool work!
Thanks 😁👍
Honestly, the imperfections made some of them look cooler. Might be a good idea to keep that in mind when looking for a specific effect.
Well thanks and you will link my next video coming out later this week if that is the case 😁👍
Thank you so much for this video, its really helped me understand how this machine is used and what its for, My daughter is doing a degree in design and jewellery and will finish as a gold and silversmith with design knowledge, she will then need to go and do a apprenticeship for 5 years or so to perfect her skills , one of the things i want for her to have is a proper studio at home where she can feel free to design, explore and make pieces how she wants to.
She has been using illustrator intensively in the design process and is very good at it and its great to see the use of the resin printer as thats what they are doing at the moment, the beauty of this of course is that you can reproduce the item time and time again however you do lose the "on off" ability skill that you get from hand making the piece and the uniqueness of it that you get by using wax yourself.
It is a pity that you didn't include in the shoot the actual pour of molten metal into the flask and show it being put under vacuum. Thats what I understand the machine does so negates the use of a centrifuge completely by using a vacuum pump to suck the metal into every part of the mould.
I use 3d printers quite a lot but using plastic not the new resin ones so I am not sure exactly as to the quality of the finished piece, is it better than a normal 3d printer using abs or pla? On PlA prints I sometimes find I use a spray automotive filler to get rid of any imperfections before I spray them but you were saying this is down to the burnout in the kiln not being perfect .
Well basically this is a piece of kit I need to add to the list to complete the studio for Georgie rather than a centrifuge so its time to spend some money, over here they cost around the 600 euros mark in europe. Every one of these machines seems to be exactly the same just with a different badge on it, They appear to be all made in china which is fine by me if they are not made anywhere else.
Again thanks a lot for the video and good luck.
Great video and great job. I look forward to seeing more of your work and progress. Best!
Thanks and I have more casting videos done already and more in the works. 😁👍
Good day! Is it possible to do without a vacuum casting machine or a cheaper analogue? Because they are expensive, the programmable oven is also expensive. At best, $ 500 each. I thought that a smelter for casting jewelry would be enough for me ... but it seems not😅
Yeah kinda need all this stuff to get reliable results every time. Also yeah the setup is very expensive and I understand why people would want to save money on doing it. If you just have a smelter you can still do sand casting, but you will be very limited in what you can make.
Thanks for the answer! In this case, a reasonable question. Can a Tabletop furnace be used to melt metals? in fact it can heat up to 2200F. If the rod is covered with a metal lid in it and it is possible to melt thus saving money on a melting furnace?
So it can get hot enough to melt metal but I don't think it would work very well to do the full casting setup if you are doing a burnout in it as well. You can get a cheap Chinese smelter for under $200 or you can also melt metal with just to torch. MAPP gas will work and that torch setup is like $60-70.
@@GomeowCreations In any case, my production volumes are extremely small, I think that I would hardly use both a melting furnace and a heating furnace at the same time, so it would be a good option for a start. But the only thing that stops me is the question of the programs of this oven. Do I have to turn on melting at a given temperature for a certain time each time and then adjust the program for wax firing each time? Or would it be enough to set up the wax program once and then flatter the other melting program?
That looks like a very fun and gratifying hobby bro. cool ring!
Thanks 😊👍
for your purposes, set your scale to DWT. weigh (all spruing included) your piece and multiply by 10.5 for sterling silver, 8.5 for bronze (good for master molds) and 14.5 for 14k gold. also, you can eliminate the pitting in the cast by setting your casting temp higher, i would say go up from 950 to 1100
Thank you very much I wi will try that out in the future
This is really cool "Hand Man." I always wanted to know how jewelry craftsmen made those tiny works of art. So intercut, and highly detailed. "Thumbs up," hand man.
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Loving the hand movements
Yeah, my hands are a little much in this video so I was trying to fix that seeing that a lot of people didn't like it very much. If you do really like the hand movements as they are, well thank you 😁👍
@@GomeowCreations no it's great, don't listen to the haters
It was a very common criticism on this video so I thought it would be something to look into. But again thank you very much for your support ☺️
The natural soot patina on the pirate ring looks hella cool.
I have excellent results using solid flasks. The perf. Flasks are big and bulky hard to load up kiln for burnout. Nice video
Yeah after learning more about casting and there are better ways to use it than I was doing. I do still like the perforated flask and I did make a new video using them th-cam.com/video/t2H_lV8IOyY/w-d-xo.html
I'd love to get in to casting and jewelry making one day! Looks so much fun.
Wax/castable resin is made to be equalvalent to water so to termin metal weight just multiple wax weight by the specific gravity of the metal then add between 5-15g for the sprue
I don't understand how the vacuum while pouring is working. Is it supposedly pulling air all the way through the walls of the investment? How significant is the difference if you forgot to turn on the vacuum while pouring? thanks for the video!
It will also pull the metal but it can't pass through the investment like are can so it will just fill the area and make sure it doesn't have any trapped air.
Have you tried printing your sprue ups in resin instead of wax? I find that it tends to work quite well, improves flow.
As a 3d artist that also does 3d resin printing, I wish we were friend's. :D awesome setup man
Well thank you and that could be a thing seeing that I'm always looking for new designs. Send me an email gomeowcreations@gmail.com
Great work with only a week learning the lost wax process.. If you're melting gold make sure you have a reservoir mid way down your sprues as that will trap any porosity if the button doesn't catch it all, Have a little look into sprue designs.. some people recommend not having a sprue hit directly at a flat spot on your piece, If angled slightly it helps for a smoother transition. Just see what works best for you, Great work fun video to watch 👍
Thank for the info and I have done a little more casting and it seems to be getting better th-cam.com/video/WEzT_qej4_c/w-d-xo.html I'm also working on another video about using some new castable resin. I hope to have it done this weekend
Hi , great viedo! Woudle you tell me the plaster link for 3D printing? or using the normal plaster for melt wax is ok?
bit.ly/InvestmentPower
hi thanks for the video, its nice to see someone experimenting with CAD and casting. I have two tips - just use a sheet of paper wrapped firmly round the flask and taped rather than using expensive and messy tape, it does the job with no fuss and is much less messy. As for your maths - the specific gravity weight of silver is 10.4 so you will need 10.4 grams of silver for every one gram of wax or 10.4 ounces of silver for every one ounce of wax or resin. You also need to add an extra ten grams (or equivalent) for the button and tree. So for two wax or printed rings weighing a gram each you will need 20.8 grams of silver plus 10g for the button a total of 30.8grams. Weighing your base before spruing up and after will give you the most accurate weight. hope these two tips help!
Can you create a support tree in the print slider that can double as the connection to the base inside the cast?
I imagine if it was done correctly you could even save on print clean up.
I think the mixer introduces a lot of air to the investment no? are you mixing 38/100? when casting silver I would mix 50% sterling and 50% fresh silver. thanks for the vid :)
34:22 how does it turned black ?? Whats the name of the green liquid ??
This is first video I've seen from your channel and I'm smashing subscribe. Massively informative video dude
Well thank you very much and I'm happy you liked it. 😁👍
The imperfections add character.
Yeah it does and I agree on this piece but if I was doing a wedding ring and it came out like this it'd be a complete failure.
@@GomeowCreations Agree 100%
i like a few looking like they been worn down like they were subjected to the weather like that scarab pendant it be good for a cosplay idea
I've been doing lost wax casting for over 40 years. In fact I filled my store with gold & silver jewelry I cast. Now I'm wondering if I should try to learn 3-D printing or just stick with carving wax and making rubber molds. Should I bother at age 62 or just say fuggit?
Do you have any experience with computer? Just because if you want to make your own work designs you need to learn 3D design work.
Instead of using the castable resin, use a regular resin and use it to make your master silicone molds. That's what I would do.
What silicone and resin do you use, I ask because silicone doesn't like to set on a lot of resins
@@GomeowCreations th-cam.com/video/GJKKltDuOAI/w-d-xo.html this guide has never failed me, it's using an rtv material.
@@GomeowCreations this guide has helped me aswell. th-cam.com/video/Dur_5wZvZEQ/w-d-xo.html
I didn't realize there is so much work in casting. Great video.
Same haha and thanks
Foreal hahaha I guess I'd bother with it if I was selling real gold rings though. That has to be the best use for this (and to make back your money from what looks to be an expensive venture lol)
13:55 use a buffalo torch. Pop sculpture by Tim bruckner is a great resource for wax work.
Thanks so much for this. I've been 3D printing for a long time and have been interested in getting into lost wax casting but didn't have a good idea of the machinery and time involved. This really helps answer a lot of the questions that I had.
Happy to be helpful 😁👍
Most impressive, a lot of work but the end result was beautiful!
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I think these little imperfections on your final piece actually look damn good!!! Giving some character to it 👌👌👌
Yeah it does but it wouldn't work for all things so it is a problem that needed to be fixed 😁👍
Hey hey im not sure if you already knew the tip im gonna give you but if you put pure lemon juice in a heat safe bowl like a chocolate fondue set with a candle underneath you can get the soot and other things of the silver:). There is a specialised acid goldsmiths use but personaly i liked the lemon juice trick better because i had my workshop in my bedroom:p.
Love the videos mate. Ive been making jewellery for 3 years a love watching your videos giving me ideas. Been keen on wax lost casting for awhile but worried about set up costs. Cheers
Yeah setup cost is kinda hight. If you really can't afford it right now and you want to get into it you should look to get some tools second hand.
@@GomeowCreations living in New Zealand very small market for second hand jewellery equipment unfortunately, out of your 3d printers what's your favourite?
The elegoo Mars 2 Pro and than the Anycubic Mono
Is it neccessary to have the flask smoking hot when you put it on the rubber gasket for pouring? Could you let it cool down to a room temperature before putting it on the rubber gasket without messing up the vacuum ability of the investment or the overall cast?
This video made me really wanna dive deeper into my Resin printing and potential casting. More inspiration to setup a work shop lol
Would it not be possible to 3D-print a negative of the object (basically a re-usable mould) in resin and cast wax forms in that to use for the metal casting process? I'd say that would speed up the build process right?
You might be able to do that but idk how well the wax would work in it as a mold. They have a clear silicone you can use for mold making. This is great if you want to make the same item over and over but if you are only going to make like 1-20 of them it might be better off just printing them.
I would love to try this but it's a lot to get into just to try something.
Yeah it would be a lot of money to just try 😅
Look for a community shop/forge, typically they will have tools available for a membership fee/training seminar.
I think the small imperfections add to the overall look of the ring. It's looks more like a battle worn helmet.
as a totally new oustider who is trying to break in to this industry, what do you sugest I do to start my learning journey... are there are any vendor in-person trainings or some other resources you advise We can explore. ?
I just out of high school I got a job at Delton Locomotive Works. We built "G" scale locomotives and the period correct box cars tank cars etc. I had a great time back then but that was 36 years ago. I "tree'd" up parts along with mixing all the plaster that we filled the flasks with to cast the next day. At the end of the day we loaded our kiln with probably 15-25 flasks and kiln would bake the plastic and let the wax would melt out, we poured probably at least 25 lbs of brass every morning Let me know if can help you at all
Peace,
Rich
I dont know if anyone suggested it already but try using clear wrapping film for the perforated flasks its very cheap and should hold tight.
So I switched over to clear packing tape and it works perfectly and it's very cheap but thanks for the suggestion. I also made a full new video basically redoing this one about a year and a half after but I feel it is much better than this video.
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Can you use FDM printers? I know they leave lines but I've been able to print pretty smooth prints using my modified (klipper raspberry pi with mod hotend) Ender 5 s1.
bit.ly/PolyCast-Filament you can use this.
@@GomeowCreations Thank you! And I loved your video, it gave me a good idea where to start! I’m looking forward to expanding my hobby into metal casting and jewelry making. I have a few designs I’ve created I can’t wait to see in silver. 😊
Let me know how it turns out 😊👍
Great info, very helpful. Thank you, Thing!🙂
Another Great video. I have done a little of this it sure is fun. They also make a shrink plastic that is really handy for the flasks
Oh I have seen that and I might look into it so time soon.
Great stuff, thanks for sharing :) You could use a Dremel to remove supports without leaving holes.
Nice results , very beautiful designs you bring to life :)
I just casted 15 small pendants in silver.. they are very detailed. What’s the best way to polish them to remove the “silver dullness look” ? I spoke with a jewler and he told me you can’t really polish them to much as the details will be removed.
I think the bubbles at the silver ring comes from leftover wax (lowest point can't easily get out of the mold).
Try to put it on top or put another connection from the lowest point to the stem of your tree.
Also, i made some good rings without vacuuming (?) the mold, just bump it on a table to get the air bubbles out.
Hi, can you advice me on a kiln question. My power supply in Singapore is 220v so the US made kiln would not work and using a transformer is out of the equation. Is there a another way to melt the wax away without this kiln?
Wow - thanks for the video - This is exactly what I was looking for!
Glad it was helpful!
alternative for the wax, you can use wax straws as well, as long as it all burns out of the plaster its all good
Just wondering if saran wrap wouldn't work better then packing tape or gaffers tape.
It might work, but I would be worried about it holding up when the flash over flows.
@@GomeowCreations It's hard to explain but the foam doesn't put a lot of pressure on the plastic. You just have to make it tall enough to hold it. Another way might be to use a flexible cutting board. It can wrap around and if you use a strong enough rubber band can seal tight enough to keep leaks to a minimum. It is also reusable. Another idea is to get a sheet of gasket material or neoprene. At worst you would just need to tape the overlap or rubber cement it into a sleeve. The more I think about it there has to e a commercially available solution to this issue.
Ive just began this process for the first time and im confused as my tabletop furnace has a black interior now, i dont understand how your flasks and come out white and perfect after the burnout, any suggestions?
Did you do the first burn in processed when you first got the kiln? This is a first time setup you have to do with it and makes a lot of smoke and everything turns black then it will turn white
@@GomeowCreationsyea i did the first burn in process, it ended up clearing up and turning white again near the end of the burnout. Thanks for the reply!
What's the final temperature for the casting?? Thank you
For the flask or furnace?
@@GomeowCreations flask🙏
900-1100f I have the best results at 1000f
@@GomeowCreations thank you 😁
what is the purpose of the vacuum when pouring the cast? there are no openings in the plaster and if its porosity was that high that it cause a vacuum in the mold i would expect the metal would flow through it as well no?
The investment is porous so it will allow air to be pulled throw it but not liquid metal. Think of the metal being too thick to go into the holes but the air can fit through it with no problem.
Great video. I have a question. Do you know Geoff Thomas design? His rings have incredible detail. Can you get that level of detail with this vacuum process or would it require a pressurized vacuum system?
So at 29:56 where did the Wax go when u opened the Kiln to remove the Crucible before u poured the Silver?
Melted out and turned to gas and smoke
@@GomeowCreations Whoa!
How do you calculate how must investment you need? For your mold?
I'm sure this is a way to do it but I just make more than needed and filled it. 😁👍
@@GomeowCreations thank you that's what I'm gonna do.. just eye ball it.
Great and instructive video.
Did you cast the spearhead ? Any videos ?
BTW: the spearhead original dates back from 800-1200 BC and was found as part of the Selbourne-Blackmoore hoard find in Wolmer Forest (England). So, you are reproducing a 2800 to 3200 year old weapon. Bravo.
Sorry, wrong channel 😞
it's all good, I was looking at the question and thinking "When did I make a spearhead?" haha
Hi! I just saw your video. I have just started too in wax casting for the last 3 months. One advice I can give you , that I found out the hard way, is better to design and print the sprue with the ring and also the tree. I design everything the tree, the ring with its sprue and print everything in the same batch and then put them together with a drop of resin and then cure it with UV light and Everything stays together.
Other small thing is the time of burnout I have better results at least with 4 hours at 1,350 degrees.
Hope this helps you, I need help learning to polish the pieces when the come out, I have mess a lot of pieces because of this, so after all the hours put on it to mess it up at the end is so frustrating. I can send you images of how I design the sprue and trees. Bye
Thanks for the info and you can send more info and pictures to my email gomeowcreations@gmail.com
@@GomeowCreations I just sent you an email with the info I hope it helps
What type of plaster are you using?
Great video! Quick question: How much energy does the 13h furnace consume? Is there another way to burn the resin off?
I will go over that in a new video I'm amazing about this right now. But to sum it up with my electric cost at $0.08 per kWh it was about $0.40 for the burnout.
@@GomeowCreations That's a great idea, I'm very interested in this but haven't been able to find a video with a run down of costs (machines, operation costs, materials: resins, metals, etc. work hours). Would love to find out more before jumping in!
I with see about adding that to the new video that in working on now. 😁👍
This looks like a hell of alot of fun, but it also looks VERY expensive to get all of this equipment.
Yes and yes. I don't suggest buying this setup unless you are going to start selling your casting work. 😅👍
With all that work, material and energy. What'll be the price of that ring?
Very Cool, I learned how to help my casting!
The thing I don't understand is how the vacuum chamber pulls through the molten metal inside. As I see, It doesn't have any holes on the investmet to suck the air and create negative pressure on the other side? Does that investment has porous structure?
The investment is just porous so it can pull air through it but the metal is too thick . 😁👍
What was the tool you used to cut the sprues ? not the saw but the hand tool, thanks !
What point in the video did I use the tool?
@@GomeowCreations 33:20
That was just some large tin snips, not the best for removing stuff but it worked
Jeweler for a few years, getting a 3D printer for this reason in a few weeks.
This video makes me MUCH more excited than I was!
Can't wait to see the resin comparisons! 😁
Nice and what printer did you get?
I will have some discount codes for more resin soon too 😁👍
@@GomeowCreations Phrozen 4K mini. We mostly make rings, so it seems the best buy for the detail offered. 😊
Oh nice. Yeah I have 7 different printers to work with here 😅 all of them are different too haha. I did some castable resin prints with my Anycubic Mono and Elegoo Mar 2 pro for my new video.
@@GomeowCreations I'll keep my eye out for them! We're getting into copper growing on resin prints as well. It opens up so many doors! All the best of luck!
I'm currently buying some of your equipment too. It's nice to see them in action.
You're gonna do some great work... I can tell. 😉
Very interesting video! What sort of plaster do you use and where can I buy it?
if i use 2 inch by 2 inch flask to use one ring how longer will take to burn out in the kiln oven ? and how sooner can burn out time can be possible ?
Thank you very much for sharing! Super inspirational, trying myself to get into this world 👍🏻
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How much would you charge me to do a lost wax cast of a small trinket if i was to send it to you made out of the wax product of your choice? It would not need to be perfect. In fact some air bubles and imperfections would be what I would prefer.
Email me gomeowcreations@gmail.com 😁👍
Excellent video! Supper informative and a pleasure to watch. Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks 😁
Cool video! Can you make any 3D printer recommendations?
What are you looking to do with it?
@@GomeowCreations Just want to get into the hobby of 3D printing, perhaps do some wax resin casting. Any thoughts on the Phrozen 4K mini?
Does it matter which kind of plaster you use?
Yeah, it has to be investment for doing casting
Awesome! Can you make like a miniature tree Or bonsai tree?
I think that would be something that could be done.
Can I do it with a Water Washable Elegoo Resin?
No it will leave a bunch of Ash behind along with expanding when heated up which will damage the mold
Forewarning, I have not yet finished the video, but I just wanted to give you a heads up! If you connect your piece to another "tree limb" instead of directly off the main sprew, then it will make cleanup much easier for you afterwards. It will mean that it requires *slightly* more silver to cast, but it can obviously just be repurposed and re-cast as scrap.
Edit: Never mind! He did it with the ring piece, showing exactly what I was talking about.
Thank and that part failed anyways but I will keep that in mind going forward 😁👍
Yeah, it helps with adhesion and makes sure that metal gets to where it needs to be. Always sucks when something doesn't come out, but if ya learn then that's what matters! It certainly doesn't help that you aren't able to see what's going on inside the plaster, and are unable to diagnose things as they happen.
How about using a kind of rubber hose instead of tape.. Thus you could reused a couple of times. Maybe it's a good alternative
I guess that might work but I found using normal clear packing tape works really well and is easy to get off
Excelente video,como se pueden hacer en 3d las figuras?. gracias
Great video. I've been getting into lost wax casting for the past year and have been dealing with a lot of trial and error. I've had a nightmare of a time getting consistent results from using castable resin. I know some advice given to me was flipping the flask at something to allow more ventilation and also having the final burn out stage at a slightly higher temp. It sucks that the castable resin is so expensive. Have you been experiencing determination or contamination from using the graphite crucible. When I poor out the excess amount of molten metal into a ingot I see black stuff/impure metal. Also....would it be possible to blow out the residue from the flask with out damaging the mold? I assume the left over resin would come out but I can imagine the sudden temperature change could mayne damage the investment? Also it would cause some flames i presume.
A year later, how has the casting gone? Have you worked out the kinks yet? It seems like the burnout process consumes a lot of time and energy, is wax the same way? Could you more easily create a negative mold through 3d printing and "cast" a wax mold to then burnout in just 1 or 2 hours?
can a electric furnace be used to burnout the wax instead of the burnout oven as it is expensive
Idk but yeah casting equipment is very expensive but this burnout oven might be the cheapest one that Icould find that can be programmed.
@@GomeowCreations is it possible you could test it in one of your videos ?
Would appreciate it
non of my flasks will work with my furnace.