Basics of Lost Wax Casting with 3D Printing - KAYA-CAST
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ม.ค. 2021
- I wanted to expand my skill set by learning how to cast my work along with using my ability to 3D print interesting designs. I only got to play with casting for about a week before making this video. I'm sure I made mistakes and I have a lot to learn but I wanted to show even with almost no experience and the right tools I was able to get some passable casting. I will be doing more casting in the future using some different materials and castable resin along with wax. I did learn a little about wax caving after making this video 😁👍
Wax to Metal Calculator of Casting - bit.ly/WaxCastingCal
Credit to these awesome People:
Lazy Watchsmith - Designer of Mandalorian Ring - / @lazywatchsmith
Music:
Conro - Without Your Love - monster.cat/withoutyourlove
VidovicArts - Designer of Ork Ring - / vidovicarts101
The Jewelry Fantasy - Designer of Scarab Necklace - / thejewelryfantasy
List of tools and materials:
KAYA-CAST Vaccuum Caster - bit.ly/VacuumCastingMachine
New KayaCast XL FastCast - bit.ly/KayaCast-XL-FastCast
Amazon Chinese Knock-off - amzn.to/3zNRFYI
Programmable Tabletop Kiln - amzn.to/3bzPID6
Digital Electric Melting Furnace (Cheaper) - amzn.to/39qalPE
Electro-Melt Melt Furnace (Much faster heating time) - bit.ly/Electro-MeltMeltingFur...
Perforated Flask 3" x 4" Casting Flask - amzn.to/3sn25bw
Casting Flask 3" x 3" - amzn.to/3skDnIX
3" Rubber Sprue Base - amzn.to/3i65XJz
Electric WAX Carving pen - amzn.to/2K8r5SH
Wax & Clay Sculpting Tool Set - amzn.to/3nFscqS
Casting Wax - amzn.to/3skKGjX
Materials and Tools:
Kayacast Vacuum Casting System - bit.ly/VacuumCastingMachine
Electro-Melt Furnace - bit.ly/Electro-MeltMeltingFur...
Cheaper Electric Smelting Furnace - amzn.to/3rJH7lH
TouchAmatic Wax Worker - bit.ly/HotWaxWorkingTool
PMC Supplies Programable Tabletop Kiln - amzn.to/3bzPID6
Ultrasonic (1.5 Pint) With Heat - bit.ly/UltrasonicSmallGEMORO
Ultrasonic (2 Quart) With Heater - bit.ly/UltrasonicMediumGEMORO
Wax Carving Tools - amzn.to/3dvGqaB
Resin 3D Printer Options:
Amazon - ELEGOO Saturn - amzn.to/2T7Hjjx
MatterHackers -ELEGOO Saturn - bit.ly/MHElegooSaturn
Amazon - ELEGOO Mars 2 3D Printer - amzn.to/2U6zgn3
Amazon - ELEGOO Mars 2 Pro - amzn.to/3BXckId
MatterHackers - ELEGOO Mars 2 Pro - bit.ly/HMElegooMars2Pro
MatterHackers - Anycubic Photon Mono X - bit.ly/PhotonMonoX
MatterHackers - Anycubic Photon Mono - bit.ly/PhotonMono2K
Amazon - Sonic Mighty 4K - amzn.to/3piI9aY
Phrozen3D - Sonic Mighty 4K - bit.ly/SonicMighty4K
Amazon - Sonic Mini 4K - amzn.to/3jjT9AS
Phrozen3D - Sonic Mini 4K - bit.ly/SonicMini4KPrinter
Phrozen3D- Sonic Mega 8K - bit.ly/PhrozenSonicMega8K
Wash & Cure Systems:
Amazon - ELEGOO Wash & Cure Station - amzn.to/3gWHUxH
MatterHackers - ANYCUBIC Wash & Cure Machine 2.0 - bit.ly/WashAndCureMachine2
Amazon - ANYCUBIC Wash & Cure Machine 2.0 - amzn.to/3DWG4FO
Amazon - ANYCUBIC Wash Cure Machine Plus (Large) - amzn.to/3DWFLe8
Castable Resins :
MatterHackers - Liqcreate Wax Castable Resin - bit.ly/LiqcreateCastableResin
Amazon - Siraya Tech Cast 3D Printer Resin - amzn.to/3aUBLyi
Puvah - BlueCast X-One Resin - bit.ly/BlueCastXOneResin
Phrozen3D - Wax-like Castable Resin - bit.ly/Wax-LikeCastableResinP...
Other Helpfull Items:
LayerLock SLA Resin 3D Printing Build Surface - bit.ly/LayerLockBuildSurface
Other Casting Videos:
Everything You Need To Know To Make Your Own Sterling Silver 925 - • Everything You Need To...
Jewelry Casting Made Easy Using Delft Clay - • Jewelry Casting Made E...
Simple Silver Casting - Tufa Stone Casting - • Simple Silver Casting ...
Fast & Easy Way to Prepare Your Crucible for Casting - • Fast & Easy Way to Pre...
If you are looking for more tools and materials that I use, well you're in luck! I made a page on my website just for that.
GomeowCreations.com/tools-and...
GomeowCreations.com/partners-...
Note Most of the links that I use that go to products are affiliate link. This means I make a small commission on anything that you happen buy using them. This is at no extra charge to you and this helps support the work I do on this channel. 😁👍
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List of tools and materials:
KAYA-CAST Vaccuum Caster - bit.ly/VacuumCastingMachine
New KayaCast XL FastCast - bit.ly/KayaCast-XL-FastCast
Amazon Chinese Knock-off - amzn.to/3zNRFYI
Programmable Tabletop Kiln - amzn.to/3bzPID6
Digital Electric Melting Furnace (Cheaper) - amzn.to/39qalPE
Electro-Melt Melt Furnace (Much faster heating time) - bit.ly/Electro-MeltMeltingFurnace
Perforated Flask 3" x 4" Casting Flask - amzn.to/3sn25bw
Casting Flask 3" x 3" - amzn.to/3skDnIX
3" Rubber Sprue Base - amzn.to/3i65XJz
Electric WAX Carving pen - amzn.to/2K8r5SH
Wax & Clay Sculpting Tool Set - amzn.to/3nFscqS
Casting Wax - amzn.to/3skKGjX
Materials and Tools:
Kayacast Vacuum Casting System - bit.ly/VacuumCastingMachine
Electro-Melt Furnace - bit.ly/Electro-MeltMeltingFurnace
Cheaper Electric Smelting Furnace - amzn.to/3rJH7lH
TouchAmatic Wax Worker - bit.ly/HotWaxWorkingTool
PMC Supplies Programable Tabletop Kiln - amzn.to/3bzPID6
Ultrasonic (1.5 Pint) With Heat - bit.ly/UltrasonicSmallGEMORO
Ultrasonic (2 Quart) With Heater - bit.ly/UltrasonicMediumGEMORO
Wax Carving Tools - amzn.to/3dvGqaB
Resin 3D Printer Options:
Amazon - ELEGOO Saturn - amzn.to/2T7Hjjx
MatterHackers -ELEGOO Saturn - bit.ly/MHElegooSaturn
Amazon - ELEGOO Mars 2 3D Printer - amzn.to/2U6zgn3
Amazon - ELEGOO Mars 2 Pro - amzn.to/3BXckId
MatterHackers - ELEGOO Mars 2 Pro - bit.ly/HMElegooMars2Pro
MatterHackers - Anycubic Photon Mono X - bit.ly/PhotonMonoX
MatterHackers - Anycubic Photon Mono - bit.ly/PhotonMono2K
Amazon - Sonic Mighty 4K - amzn.to/3piI9aY
Phrozen3D - Sonic Mighty 4K - bit.ly/SonicMighty4K
Amazon - Sonic Mini 4K - amzn.to/3jjT9AS
Phrozen3D - Sonic Mini 4K - bit.ly/SonicMini4KPrinter
Phrozen3D- Sonic Mega 8K - bit.ly/PhrozenSonicMega8K
Wash & Cure Systems:
Amazon - ELEGOO Wash & Cure Station - amzn.to/3gWHUxH
MatterHackers - ANYCUBIC Wash & Cure Machine 2.0 - bit.ly/WashAndCureMachine2
Amazon - ANYCUBIC Wash & Cure Machine 2.0 - amzn.to/3DWG4FO
Amazon - ANYCUBIC Wash Cure Machine Plus (Large) - amzn.to/3DWFLe8
Castable Resins :
MatterHackers - Liqcreate Wax Castable Resin - bit.ly/LiqcreateCastableResin
Amazon - Siraya Tech Cast 3D Printer Resin - amzn.to/3aUBLyi
Puvah - BlueCast X-One Resin - bit.ly/BlueCastXOneResin
Phrozen3D - Wax-like Castable Resin - bit.ly/Wax-LikeCastableResinPhrozen
Other Helpfull Items:
LayerLock SLA Resin 3D Printing Build Surface - bit.ly/LayerLockBuildSurface
Other Casting Videos:
Everything You Need To Know To Make Your Own Sterling Silver 925 - th-cam.com/video/Ol6-FfjwOIE/w-d-xo.html
Jewelry Casting Made Easy Using Delft Clay - th-cam.com/video/06NUWopi0WI/w-d-xo.html
Simple Silver Casting - Tufa Stone Casting - th-cam.com/video/EMqjmWs2jUo/w-d-xo.html
Fast & Easy Way to Prepare Your Crucible for Casting - th-cam.com/video/xr6caKULdYo/w-d-xo.html
Wax to Metal Calculator of Casting - bit.ly/WaxCastingCal
If you are looking for more tools and materials that I use, well you're in luck! I made a page on my website just for that.
GomeowCreations.com/tools-and-materials
GomeowCreations.com/partners-discount-codes
*Note* Most of the links that I use that go to products are affiliate link. This means I make a small commission on anything that you happen buy using them. This is at no extra charge to you and this helps support the work I do on this channel. 😁👍
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Was just wondering if you just melted the metal and poured it without removing the scum from the metal with a graphite rod, this may be the reason for the dimpled quality of the piece?
They where so lost that a TH-camr found it while 3d printing! Quit with the click bait.
Amazing parts list.. I am honestly subscribing just because of the amount of care that you obviously put into your videos by doing things like this very comment.
Very helpful …. Thank you
Hi, can you tell me about the finger cots at 34:09? I wish I had some of those when I did lost wax back in college.
Some advice for you mate, I've been a jeweller for 40 years, so I know a thing or two. When cleaning up the ring, leave the main sprew on, it means you can hold it very easily while fettling the piece, you can even wait untill after the main polish to remove it. Just a tip. Hope you take no offence at the sugestion, and it helps.
Thanks and I will give that a try for sure 😁👍
iv recently started doing rings out of resin silver and copper but am thinking about learning casting since you have been a jeweller for 40 years have you ever done casting?
@@lordsathariel4384 I have done quite a bit of casting yes, but using the tradditional lost wax and also cuttle fish. I usually make a master out of brass and use this to make a mold. I have done a lot of sand casting also, both for jewellery and other stuff.
@@Fizzbin25 ah i see
@@Fizzbin25 when you do lost wax do you use a burnout oven for the wax or what? cus iv seen some crazy people get rid of the wax many different ways
Good video. I took an adult education class on Jewelry Making years ago taught by a very experienced person. I remember two good tips: 1) Coat the wax masters with dilute dishwashing spot remover before putting into the investment. It's just a wetting agent and will allow a more intimate contact between the investment and the wax. 2) Eucalypts oil dissolves wax readily and can be used to "polish" the wax master before casting. I think it would also work on the 3D printed master.
You can actually do the conversion from wax to silver using water displacement. If you have a measured amount of water in a graduated cylinder, you can drop your piece in and measure the difference. Take the difference and using the density of water, you can then write that down and do the conversion from silver density to water density. Google will tell you that in a split second, so it's not too hard. Add a bit extra silver to account for losses and sprewing!
You explain everything incredibly well, I always have a clear understanding of what to do and you save me hours of time. Thanks
By far the best video I’ve seen on this subject and I’ve tried to watch them all
Wow. Very cool. Thanks for sharing your experience.
This is so good, a truely detailed and interesting tutorial on lost wax! Thank you for the collaboration, it came out so awesome!
Well thank you and sorry it took so long to get it all done 😅
@@GomeowCreations it’s awesome, let me know if you ever want more! I loved seeing my work turned into a real durable piece!
Will do and I will message you over on IG
In high school I did a lost wax casting in my material science class with a centrifuge to force the metal in to the cast. I had to carve my ring out of a blank and it was a learning experience
What class was it
This video made me really wanna dive deeper into my Resin printing and potential casting. More inspiration to setup a work shop lol
Wow, that is a lot of prep work for a single ring. Thanks for the complete explanation.
Yeah normal you want to make a lot more all at once 😅
Love the ork ring!
for your purposes, set your scale to DWT. weigh (all spruing included) your piece and multiply by 10.5 for sterling silver, 8.5 for bronze (good for master molds) and 14.5 for 14k gold. also, you can eliminate the pitting in the cast by setting your casting temp higher, i would say go up from 950 to 1100
Thank you very much I wi will try that out in the future
Great info, very helpful. Thank you, Thing!🙂
Great video and great job. I look forward to seeing more of your work and progress. Best!
Thanks and I have more casting videos done already and more in the works. 😁👍
Excellent stuff. Getting into 3d printing, and already doing aluminum casting for parts. Love your investment setup!
Thanks and yeah if you have any questions feel free to ask
I'd love to get in to casting and jewelry making one day! Looks so much fun.
Nice results , very beautiful designs you bring to life :)
Dude! You are a great teacher. Thanks for the shout-out.
Thanks and thanks for sending me the file for the ring. 😁
Thank you very much for sharing! Super inspirational, trying myself to get into this world 👍🏻
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Wow - thanks for the video - This is exactly what I was looking for!
Glad it was helpful!
Very cool video. Thank you.
And thank you for not cutting the parts where it didn't turn out the way you were expecting it to / wanting it.. To be hoenst, that was exactly what I needed to see. I would have been devastated if I had purchased all of the hardware, products, chemicals and spent the time to learn how to even just do it all for my first time and THEN learned how hard and "messy" this process is. And by messy I mean messy like a relationship (complicated) not messy like making brownies.
Graphite molds seem much more my speed :)
Again, thank you!
Honestly, the imperfections made some of them look cooler. Might be a good idea to keep that in mind when looking for a specific effect.
Well thanks and you will link my next video coming out later this week if that is the case 😁👍
The imperfections add character.
Yeah it does and I agree on this piece but if I was doing a wedding ring and it came out like this it'd be a complete failure.
@@GomeowCreations Agree 100%
Thanks so much for this. I've been 3D printing for a long time and have been interested in getting into lost wax casting but didn't have a good idea of the machinery and time involved. This really helps answer a lot of the questions that I had.
Happy to be helpful 😁👍
I think these little imperfections on your final piece actually look damn good!!! Giving some character to it 👌👌👌
Yeah it does but it wouldn't work for all things so it is a problem that needed to be fixed 😁👍
Great stuff, thanks for sharing :) You could use a Dremel to remove supports without leaving holes.
The natural soot patina on the pirate ring looks hella cool.
As a jewelry craftsman i'm impressed how you nailed casting process! Nice work!
Thanks and I have gotten a bit better at it over the years th-cam.com/video/t2H_lV8IOyY/w-d-xo.html 😁
I really enjoyed this video and I think you achieved great results for only having a weeks worth of experience under your belt. I would love to give this a try but following your tool links it is apparent that this is an investment hobby for sure. (Which I expected). Thank you and I'm going to go enjoy some of your other videos.
Honestly, the roughness of the final product makes it looks that much more real.. cool work!
Thanks 😁👍
Excellent video! Supper informative and a pleasure to watch. Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks 😁
Wow man that's some serious machinery, I really like that you experimented before going for the 3D printing, great work! 👍👍👍👍👍
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Very Cool, I learned how to help my casting!
I didn't realize there is so much work in casting. Great video.
Same haha and thanks
Foreal hahaha I guess I'd bother with it if I was selling real gold rings though. That has to be the best use for this (and to make back your money from what looks to be an expensive venture lol)
Great video! Love the designs and execution, very clean!
Glad you like it 👍
Have you tried printing your sprue ups in resin instead of wax? I find that it tends to work quite well, improves flow.
This is first video I've seen from your channel and I'm smashing subscribe. Massively informative video dude
Well thank you very much and I'm happy you liked it. 😁👍
Another Great video. I have done a little of this it sure is fun. They also make a shrink plastic that is really handy for the flasks
I have seen that and it looks like it would be helpful
Thank you for this video my friend
Most impressive, a lot of work but the end result was beautiful!
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That looks like a very fun and gratifying hobby bro. cool ring!
Thanks 😊👍
Your video was very helpful! Thanks for sharing :)
Glad it was helpful! 😁
Great work with only a week learning the lost wax process.. If you're melting gold make sure you have a reservoir mid way down your sprues as that will trap any porosity if the button doesn't catch it all, Have a little look into sprue designs.. some people recommend not having a sprue hit directly at a flat spot on your piece, If angled slightly it helps for a smoother transition. Just see what works best for you, Great work fun video to watch 👍
Thank for the info and I have done a little more casting and it seems to be getting better th-cam.com/video/WEzT_qej4_c/w-d-xo.html I'm also working on another video about using some new castable resin. I hope to have it done this weekend
The more you mix the plaster the faster it sets, the mixing breaks up the starter crystals into more starter crystals. I would place the plaster in the vacuum before adding it to the mold. Thats how we dental techs do it.
Great video. I've been getting into lost wax casting for the past year and have been dealing with a lot of trial and error. I've had a nightmare of a time getting consistent results from using castable resin. I know some advice given to me was flipping the flask at something to allow more ventilation and also having the final burn out stage at a slightly higher temp. It sucks that the castable resin is so expensive. Have you been experiencing determination or contamination from using the graphite crucible. When I poor out the excess amount of molten metal into a ingot I see black stuff/impure metal. Also....would it be possible to blow out the residue from the flask with out damaging the mold? I assume the left over resin would come out but I can imagine the sudden temperature change could mayne damage the investment? Also it would cause some flames i presume.
This is really cool "Hand Man." I always wanted to know how jewelry craftsmen made those tiny works of art. So intercut, and highly detailed. "Thumbs up," hand man.
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Love the videos mate. Ive been making jewellery for 3 years a love watching your videos giving me ideas. Been keen on wax lost casting for awhile but worried about set up costs. Cheers
Yeah setup cost is kinda hight. If you really can't afford it right now and you want to get into it you should look to get some tools second hand.
@@GomeowCreations living in New Zealand very small market for second hand jewellery equipment unfortunately, out of your 3d printers what's your favourite?
The elegoo Mars 2 Pro and than the Anycubic Mono
I think the small imperfections add to the overall look of the ring. It's looks more like a battle worn helmet.
I actually made a plaster mold of my old flask plugs and use it as a mold with PMC rubber from Smoth-on I use the PMC 121 I use the PMC 121 for both my wax molds and for making new plugs if I need to
Wax/castable resin is made to be equalvalent to water so to termin metal weight just multiple wax weight by the specific gravity of the metal then add between 5-15g for the sprue
Loving the hand movements
Yeah, my hands are a little much in this video so I was trying to fix that seeing that a lot of people didn't like it very much. If you do really like the hand movements as they are, well thank you 😁👍
@@GomeowCreations no it's great, don't listen to the haters
It was a very common criticism on this video so I thought it would be something to look into. But again thank you very much for your support ☺️
Very cool!!! I appreciate the time time you take to make sure you put out such ACCURATE informative videos!! Your a wonderful teacher Randy!! We appreciate all your doing and sharing in this community! 🙏💖
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His hand gestures are wholly inaccurate.
I need this ring!
I just out of high school I got a job at Delton Locomotive Works. We built "G" scale locomotives and the period correct box cars tank cars etc. I had a great time back then but that was 36 years ago. I "tree'd" up parts along with mixing all the plaster that we filled the flasks with to cast the next day. At the end of the day we loaded our kiln with probably 15-25 flasks and kiln would bake the plastic and let the wax would melt out, we poured probably at least 25 lbs of brass every morning Let me know if can help you at all
Peace,
Rich
alternative for the wax, you can use wax straws as well, as long as it all burns out of the plaster its all good
Thank you so much for this video, its really helped me understand how this machine is used and what its for, My daughter is doing a degree in design and jewellery and will finish as a gold and silversmith with design knowledge, she will then need to go and do a apprenticeship for 5 years or so to perfect her skills , one of the things i want for her to have is a proper studio at home where she can feel free to design, explore and make pieces how she wants to.
She has been using illustrator intensively in the design process and is very good at it and its great to see the use of the resin printer as thats what they are doing at the moment, the beauty of this of course is that you can reproduce the item time and time again however you do lose the "on off" ability skill that you get from hand making the piece and the uniqueness of it that you get by using wax yourself.
It is a pity that you didn't include in the shoot the actual pour of molten metal into the flask and show it being put under vacuum. Thats what I understand the machine does so negates the use of a centrifuge completely by using a vacuum pump to suck the metal into every part of the mould.
I use 3d printers quite a lot but using plastic not the new resin ones so I am not sure exactly as to the quality of the finished piece, is it better than a normal 3d printer using abs or pla? On PlA prints I sometimes find I use a spray automotive filler to get rid of any imperfections before I spray them but you were saying this is down to the burnout in the kiln not being perfect .
Well basically this is a piece of kit I need to add to the list to complete the studio for Georgie rather than a centrifuge so its time to spend some money, over here they cost around the 600 euros mark in europe. Every one of these machines seems to be exactly the same just with a different badge on it, They appear to be all made in china which is fine by me if they are not made anywhere else.
Again thanks a lot for the video and good luck.
Excellent 👍
thanks 👍
Fantastic video!
Thanks 😁
Nice set up for a beginner ! Wow.
Yeah it's a little bit over kill for someone just starting out with this 😅
@@GomeowCreations so i am a beginner also.. do you think you can help me learn ? I bought an old kiln oven lol...but its manual 🤮
@@GomeowCreations thank you soo much for responding. I would love to show you my first piece done..
I will be honest, I don't know how you would do it manually but I'm sure there is a way to do it. Also yeah I would love to see you work if you are willing to share.
13:55 use a buffalo torch. Pop sculpture by Tim bruckner is a great resource for wax work.
wow nice ring🤗
Thanks
hi thanks for the video, its nice to see someone experimenting with CAD and casting. I have two tips - just use a sheet of paper wrapped firmly round the flask and taped rather than using expensive and messy tape, it does the job with no fuss and is much less messy. As for your maths - the specific gravity weight of silver is 10.4 so you will need 10.4 grams of silver for every one gram of wax or 10.4 ounces of silver for every one ounce of wax or resin. You also need to add an extra ten grams (or equivalent) for the button and tree. So for two wax or printed rings weighing a gram each you will need 20.8 grams of silver plus 10g for the button a total of 30.8grams. Weighing your base before spruing up and after will give you the most accurate weight. hope these two tips help!
Looking good.
Thanks 😁
As a 3d artist that also does 3d resin printing, I wish we were friend's. :D awesome setup man
Well thank you and that could be a thing seeing that I'm always looking for new designs. Send me an email gomeowcreations@gmail.com
Super video and break down
Thanks 😁👍
Ive been doing casting for about 5 years. The purpose of the investment and correctly mixing it is to minimize the air bubbles in your casting. I would suggest stop using the mixer for the investment thats why you invest it twice in the vacuum once in the bowl and then in the flask. But thats just my opinion lol
Can you create a support tree in the print slider that can double as the connection to the base inside the cast?
I imagine if it was done correctly you could even save on print clean up.
Hey hey im not sure if you already knew the tip im gonna give you but if you put pure lemon juice in a heat safe bowl like a chocolate fondue set with a candle underneath you can get the soot and other things of the silver:). There is a specialised acid goldsmiths use but personaly i liked the lemon juice trick better because i had my workshop in my bedroom:p.
I've done last week's casting. For better results let the plast sit for 24 hours
Whole temperature should be 1500ﾟ
And you're one hour old should be 1000ﾟ And the plastic should be a mild cherry red. And your sprue technique is crude and awkward smooth and elegant Your other whole times look good
Thanks for the info, here is a newer video I made about this after having more experience 😁👍 th-cam.com/video/t2H_lV8IOyY/w-d-xo.html
Well I'm used to a sling caster Not vacuum But I would have added on a spiritual like in the video you had me watch Which was not that bad by the way how to use 2 mm sprue vents To the bottom of the Flask in your case straight out to the side using a vacuum Oh and just a little dawn dish soapWill help with the clean up afterwardsAnd insurers smooth finish
I have excellent results using solid flasks. The perf. Flasks are big and bulky hard to load up kiln for burnout. Nice video
Yeah after learning more about casting and there are better ways to use it than I was doing. I do still like the perforated flask and I did make a new video using them th-cam.com/video/t2H_lV8IOyY/w-d-xo.html
That's exactly what I was curious about.
And what was it that you are curious about?
@@GomeowCreations 's how to casting metal for jewerlies!
Oh ok haha. Well this is just one way to do it but it works good for a home setup
@@GomeowCreations Thank you for your detailed advice.
realy informative video.the sprue burnt out perfect because it was wax..not so the printed medium.so for myself its wax every time.
Jeweler for a few years, getting a 3D printer for this reason in a few weeks.
This video makes me MUCH more excited than I was!
Can't wait to see the resin comparisons! 😁
Nice and what printer did you get?
I will have some discount codes for more resin soon too 😁👍
@@GomeowCreations Phrozen 4K mini. We mostly make rings, so it seems the best buy for the detail offered. 😊
Oh nice. Yeah I have 7 different printers to work with here 😅 all of them are different too haha. I did some castable resin prints with my Anycubic Mono and Elegoo Mar 2 pro for my new video.
@@GomeowCreations I'll keep my eye out for them! We're getting into copper growing on resin prints as well. It opens up so many doors! All the best of luck!
I'm currently buying some of your equipment too. It's nice to see them in action.
You're gonna do some great work... I can tell. 😉
A PLA print will melt out completely in a burn-out oven really quickly and make fine jewelery!!!
I have never used that put I have seen people do it with pla but it's not as good as the wax like resin
He is using a casting resin, made for the purpose and even that creates imperfections.
He said in the video.
You CAN do it but to get decent fine details and outcome you can't just use PLA. At least I haven't seen it being done.
Correct me if wrong.
@Richie Bricker: No, it won't. PLA leaves a TON of ash behind when burnt. Who told you this?
What was the printer you used for making the part, I have wanted to get into what you are doing in this video. I am looking at the Elegoo Saturn, is this the one you chose to use? I looked in the description and couldn't find the answer but maybe I was just being blind
This looks like a hell of alot of fun, but it also looks VERY expensive to get all of this equipment.
Yes and yes. I don't suggest buying this setup unless you are going to start selling your casting work. 😅👍
The ring that made in this video is awesome I love the way it looks and it reminds me of the star war helmets and is awesome I wish I could have a ring like that
Forewarning, I have not yet finished the video, but I just wanted to give you a heads up! If you connect your piece to another "tree limb" instead of directly off the main sprew, then it will make cleanup much easier for you afterwards. It will mean that it requires *slightly* more silver to cast, but it can obviously just be repurposed and re-cast as scrap.
Edit: Never mind! He did it with the ring piece, showing exactly what I was talking about.
Thank and that part failed anyways but I will keep that in mind going forward 😁👍
Yeah, it helps with adhesion and makes sure that metal gets to where it needs to be. Always sucks when something doesn't come out, but if ya learn then that's what matters! It certainly doesn't help that you aren't able to see what's going on inside the plaster, and are unable to diagnose things as they happen.
Throw some wet cardstock(like the back of school notebooks) between the hot flask and the red silicone/rubber seals on the casting chamber, just cut them to be the same sizes as the seals themselves. You should not have a problem with the rubber melting. They also sell high-temp seals if you want to go with a more professional set-up.
I will have to look into that, thanks 😁
Is it neccessary to have the flask smoking hot when you put it on the rubber gasket for pouring? Could you let it cool down to a room temperature before putting it on the rubber gasket without messing up the vacuum ability of the investment or the overall cast?
what rotary bit did you use to clean up the piece after casting? and which files did you use to clean after casting?
Not bad for a guy with only one week of training. I think that you'll enjoy the world of wax carving and modelling. It's both fun and therapeutic.
Glad to hear you got bargain. Best though is to sign up for classes your learning curve will rise greatly
If you ask me, the divots and scratches don't really matter on rougher pieces like the mandalorian ring, I think it rather adds to the piece overall.
Also I highly recommend a silicone spatula instead of a wooden spoon for scraping out the bowl, it also cleans up both bowl and spatula much easier so you don't risk getting old pieces of plaster inside the mix, and also a lot quicker when washing out!
Amazing vid. What type of material did u use for the 3d printed material
Great video. I have a question. Do you know Geoff Thomas design? His rings have incredible detail. Can you get that level of detail with this vacuum process or would it require a pressurized vacuum system?
Hi! I just saw your video. I have just started too in wax casting for the last 3 months. One advice I can give you , that I found out the hard way, is better to design and print the sprue with the ring and also the tree. I design everything the tree, the ring with its sprue and print everything in the same batch and then put them together with a drop of resin and then cure it with UV light and Everything stays together.
Other small thing is the time of burnout I have better results at least with 4 hours at 1,350 degrees.
Hope this helps you, I need help learning to polish the pieces when the come out, I have mess a lot of pieces because of this, so after all the hours put on it to mess it up at the end is so frustrating. I can send you images of how I design the sprue and trees. Bye
Thanks for the info and you can send more info and pictures to my email gomeowcreations@gmail.com
@@GomeowCreations I just sent you an email with the info I hope it helps
Hello,
Thank you for making this video. Did you get any porosity on the end product? You think this method can be used on yellow or white gold?
Porosity? also yeah you can do this with golds, copper, silver and brass if you wanted to.
i like a few looking like they been worn down like they were subjected to the weather like that scarab pendant it be good for a cosplay idea
Very interesting video! What sort of plaster do you use and where can I buy it?
Would it not be possible to 3D-print a negative of the object (basically a re-usable mould) in resin and cast wax forms in that to use for the metal casting process? I'd say that would speed up the build process right?
You might be able to do that but idk how well the wax would work in it as a mold. They have a clear silicone you can use for mold making. This is great if you want to make the same item over and over but if you are only going to make like 1-20 of them it might be better off just printing them.
Electric mixers may seem like they're saving you lots of time, but they are adding significant amounts of air bubbles to the plaster. Hand-mixing may be significantly more work, but will not give you so many air bubbles.
Yes but it’s limited working time plaster so you need to speed things up, and a vacuum chamber takes care of the added bubbles. So it’s the better way to do things.
@@DisgruntledPigumon How long do you think hand-mixing would take? Not long at all. Furthermore, you can slow the set time down on the Plaster by using ice-cold water, instead of room-temp water.
Cool and all but how long did he run the vaccume?
@Shane Johns is correct. The best way to mix plaster materials is put your water in the bowl first and then sprinkle the plaster in a handful at a time , then leave it to soak for a few minutes, don’t agitate it or mix it yet. After a few minutes when it’s all soaked , you can mix it , you’ll find it’s super smooth and creamy and totally lump free. Minimal effort , no whisking. The more you mix and agitate the mixture , the quicker it will go off.
@@DisgruntledPigumonthe more you mix the faster it kicks off. Electric mixers aren't the way.
Hey man what burnout cycle do you use for the Nova castable wax resin?
Hi , great viedo! Woudle you tell me the plaster link for 3D printing? or using the normal plaster for melt wax is ok?
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Try blowing bottled oxygen into the sprew button hole once the flask reaches the casting temp. Then place back in oven. The oxygen will remove any resin that may have attached to the walls of the investment.
For a Mandolorian helmet, the flaws add some nice character to the it, as if worn from battle.
Yeah it does but it was still a bad cast haha I have gotten a lot better at casting. 😊👍
I would like to see videos of your learning progress.
Thanks!
Thank you and I didn't see this until now. So this means you are the first person to do a super thanks. 😁👍
Couple of comments from an engineer, I've done regular casting, but not this.
Other than expense, and depending on how you set up your print for infill, you can cut back on the amount of material used, but I would just print the whole tree.... That is, measure up and model the main sprue, and hang your castable pieces on it as a model. Bonus there is that your CAD program can tell you the volume, so you know exactly how much metal you need, less losses and having some extra for shrinkage.
By using less than 100% fill, you obviously will use less material, but that also means there is less material to burn out in the oven as well.
I too, agree you may be a bit low on your melt temperature to get good flow. A bit higher will help.
A gentlemen said he puts his metal in the vacuum pot to degass it prior to pouring, you can do that, but I wouldn't just put it on the silicone mat as he did, just get a little bit more of that aluminium oxide mat material, 1/8 or 1/4 inch should be fine and put that under the crucible to keep it from burning. It will be plenty porous enough to get air past. I do not know however how much that will lower your melt temperature... boiling anything in a vacuum will lower it's temp, so you may even need to reheat it. A thermal gun to the side of the crucible should get you close however, and would be a good check to see if your table furnace temperature is accurately calibrated.
I did enjoy and learn a lot from your video, thank you!