You seriously deserve so much more. The quality of the videos that you put out are comparable and most of the time better than most aviation channels. Keep it up!
@@brownbear1657 Even though Flair is growing like crazy there is a real feeling of "family" amongst the crew. We gather together on our days off and enjoy each others company. Looking forward to flying to Mexico in the New Year as well as Denver, Nashville and San Fransisco.
@@brownbear1657 There are the odd layovers right now. Perhaps one per week in YYC and one in YYZ for the lower mainland based crew (YXX and YVR). The flight attendants have their fingers crossed that there will be many more. Just doing turns every single day can be a bit much sometimes.
I used to work for Wardair - (that hangar scene reminds me greatly of the press unveiling of WD's A310s and it's new Business Class back in 1989- so much so I wonder if the stock footage is from then). I worked at the National Aviation Museum (now the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum) in Ottawa and studied the airline industry at university at the same time. I've been out of the industry since the 1990s but have continued to follow it closely. This is the best analysis available to a layman I have ever seen. It may be a case study of Flair, but it certainly speaks to ULCCs worldwide- ie Jetstar and Qantas. Definitely subscribed- I look forward to seeing what else you guys are doing. Great looking website too. I'll be exploring that later as well. Cheers!
Really appreciate that! Great to hear from someone who worked for Wardair - never had the chance to fly it myself, but I've heard good things. It's largely forgotten by young people at this point, so that might be a future video :)
Westjet does seem to be fighting a price war with Flair. Just booked a flight from YYC to YWG. Round trip Westjet is $116, Flair $109, Lynx $99. But with Westjet you get a carry on in the overhead for free so it's actually cheaper (assuming you need more than a small bag under the seat on your trip.) Flair has also accused Westjet of predatory pricing. I guess we will see, but it will be hard for these ULCC start ups in our high fee environment.
Terrible web site, can't get questions answered, no phone number, YYZ -YSJ times don't make any sense, shows 5 minute turn around time, can't tell if flight time is AM OR PM, TERRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE IF YOU CAN'T REACH THEM
Great video, we have Flair coming into YYG this summer, It will be interesting to see which airline will dominate yyg-yyz-west jet, flair, or air Canada. One thing is flair charges for every carry on bag.
We have dropped the prices for carry on bags. We do allow for one personal item (has to fit under the seat). As an ultra low cost carrier this is how we make our money. I am a flight attendant for Flair and look forward to welcoming you on board.
How about Lynx Air? We recently flew Westjet(Wreck Jet) from Calgary to PV Mexico January 2022.The original direct flight down was cancelled(Threw email) just a few hours before we were going to leave at 3:11am for a 9:20am departure,We tried phoning several times on hold for several hours,Nobody answeres the phone(You have to phone them to make any changes).They flew us to Edmonton then to PV the whole experience was an absolute gong show.Seriously they didn't even have pilots to fly the plane to PV.
Sorry to hear about your experience - safe to say few people were expecting so many new entrants (Lynx and a reborn Jetlines at least), and that changes the calculus for Flair. They do have deep pocketed backers, but their latest 100% base fare promotions might be a sign of trouble
Nice job. CASM in Canada is high because costs in Canada are structurally ridiculous (landing fees, gate fees, fuel). It’s counterintuitive, but flair’s new 737 Max fleet that it is building from cancelled orders may be the determining factor. They may have caught the wave as business and transborder travel will be the slowest to recover. Another wild card is the oil patch recovering and Flair’s YEG home base that is well positioned to benefit.
I really hope Flair succeeds - we need a true ULCC in Canada but they really need to work hard and come up a new livery before they take delivery of anymore new Jets. The mint-green underbelly and that big black blob on the side of the plane looks very amateurish. They would be better off with just an all-white aircraft with "flair" stenciled on the side than the current eye-sore. I can't believe they got this far with a fleet that looks like this. To those who say it doesn't matter how the planes look I say don't underestimate the importance of a good looking livery in the creation of a valuable brand. Without a valuable brand no airline can get off the ground. Great job on the video!
This is probably the best well-explained video I've seen for Flair on TH-cam.
Appreciate it, thanks for watching!
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Update a couple of years later: Swoop has been shut down by WestJet - looks like at least part of the video was correct >:)
Amazing work!! I got to fly Flairs Boeing 737max inaugural flight last week. Felt so unreal a ULCC in Canada buying their first max aircraft
You seriously deserve so much more. The quality of the videos that you put out are comparable and most of the time better than most aviation channels. Keep it up!
Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it! There'll be more to come :)
Flair Airlines is a winner in my book. They hired me to become a flight attendant! Looking forward to welcoming you on board.
How's it going? Do you like it?
@@brownbear1657 Even though Flair is growing like crazy there is a real feeling of "family" amongst the crew. We gather together on our days off and enjoy each others company. Looking forward to flying to Mexico in the New Year as well as Denver, Nashville and San Fransisco.
@@michellemerry2337 wow that's great, I'm glad there is that warm attitude. Do you get many layovers?
@@brownbear1657 There are the odd layovers right now. Perhaps one per week in YYC and one in YYZ for the lower mainland based crew (YXX and YVR). The flight attendants have their fingers crossed that there will be many more. Just doing turns every single day can be a bit much sometimes.
@@michellemerry2337 one week in a hotel in Calagary?? Wow, that's crazy to me.
Wow, this was surprisingly easy to follow. Thanks!
Glad you liked it, more to come 😃
I used to work for Wardair - (that hangar scene reminds me greatly of the press unveiling of WD's A310s and it's new Business Class back in 1989- so much so I wonder if the stock footage is from then). I worked at the National Aviation Museum (now the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum) in Ottawa and studied the airline industry at university at the same time. I've been out of the industry since the 1990s but have continued to follow it closely.
This is the best analysis available to a layman I have ever seen. It may be a case study of Flair, but it certainly speaks to ULCCs worldwide- ie Jetstar and Qantas. Definitely subscribed- I look forward to seeing what else you guys are doing. Great looking website too. I'll be exploring that later as well. Cheers!
Really appreciate that! Great to hear from someone who worked for Wardair - never had the chance to fly it myself, but I've heard good things. It's largely forgotten by young people at this point, so that might be a future video :)
Great video and even better analysis... I am rooting for Flair!
I learnt so much
Out of Toronto last night , Flair was the only flight available to Vancouver at last minute for a reasonable cost . Good for them .
You tired of paying $500 from Toronto to Vancouver ,that’s cheep compared Toronto to Thunder Bay Ontario
Westjet does seem to be fighting a price war with Flair. Just booked a flight from YYC to YWG. Round trip Westjet is $116, Flair $109, Lynx $99. But with Westjet you get a carry on in the overhead for free so it's actually cheaper (assuming you need more than a small bag under the seat on your trip.) Flair has also accused Westjet of predatory pricing. I guess we will see, but it will be hard for these ULCC start ups in our high fee environment.
Great video Mr Moose.
Terrible web site, can't get questions answered, no phone number, YYZ -YSJ times don't make any sense, shows 5 minute turn around time, can't tell if flight time is AM OR PM, TERRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE IF YOU CAN'T REACH THEM
I am pretty sure that Air Canada also has a low cost subsidiary called Air Canada Rouge.
Wow really great video! Thank you for that.
Great video, we have Flair coming into YYG this summer, It will be interesting to see which airline will dominate yyg-yyz-west jet, flair, or air Canada. One thing is flair charges for every carry on bag.
Yep, will be interesting to see - also the ancillary fees will definitely be here to stay haha
We have dropped the prices for carry on bags. We do allow for one personal item (has to fit under the seat). As an ultra low cost carrier this is how we make our money. I am a flight attendant for Flair and look forward to welcoming you on board.
Hey this was great. Learned a lot. Thank you
Great presentation! well done and extremely informative!
Great work !
Very nice video!
Really good, appreciate this as an airport guy
Great explanation maybe my next flight will be flare line my friend is a captain pilot for them
Interesting and informative, however, there’s no mention of Porter Airlines. How do they fit into the overall scheme?
Great video!
Very interesting! Thank you.
WoW nice video!
How about Lynx Air? We recently flew Westjet(Wreck Jet) from Calgary to PV Mexico January 2022.The original direct flight down was cancelled(Threw email) just a few hours before we were going to leave at 3:11am for a 9:20am departure,We tried phoning several times on hold for several hours,Nobody answeres the phone(You have to phone them to make any changes).They flew us to Edmonton then to PV the whole experience was an absolute gong show.Seriously they didn't even have pilots to fly the plane to PV.
Sorry to hear about your experience - safe to say few people were expecting so many new entrants (Lynx and a reborn Jetlines at least), and that changes the calculus for Flair. They do have deep pocketed backers, but their latest 100% base fare promotions might be a sign of trouble
Nice job. CASM in Canada is high because costs in Canada are structurally ridiculous (landing fees, gate fees, fuel). It’s counterintuitive, but flair’s new 737 Max fleet that it is building from cancelled orders may be the determining factor. They may have caught the wave as business and transborder travel will be the slowest to recover. Another wild card is the oil patch recovering and Flair’s YEG home base that is well positioned to benefit.
Yep, Flair might've gotten lucky with our vaccination progress + return of leisure travel
very interesting thanks
so they cut maintenance costs? their flights are so cheap it worries me
I really hope Flair succeeds - we need a true ULCC in Canada but they really need to work hard and come up a new livery before they take delivery of anymore new Jets. The mint-green underbelly and that big black blob on the side of the plane looks very amateurish. They would be better off with just an all-white aircraft with "flair" stenciled on the side than the current eye-sore.
I can't believe they got this far with a fleet that looks like this. To those who say it doesn't matter how the planes look I say don't underestimate the importance of a good looking livery in the creation of a valuable brand. Without a valuable brand no airline can get off the ground.
Great job on the video!
Glad you enjoyed it! A lot of people do seem to like the bold look :^) we'll see if it ages well
The new flight attendant uniforms make up for the questionable aircraft livery
I like the livery!
As of today running short of runways and having airport shut down lol😂
😂😂😂
Wow planes
Where’s your accent from? It’s unique!!
haha grew up in hong kong :^)
I will never ever fly Flair after my brother’s recent trip from hell.
You have an in. interesting channel. you have something to say.
you are speaking to fast !!!
what are you wendover productions? this aint it bruv bring back the real hj378
Sorry it's cluckos1999 or bust